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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Sprotyrover on February 07, 2022, 07:54:03 pm
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Just when things started settling down and Labour seemed to have got itself back on track, and even I considered them as a possible alternative to Bad Boris, This happens, a Mob which had been harangued by Piers Corbyn minutes earlier attacked Starmer on The Embankment and he had to be escorted to A police car and whisked away, the mob shouting rants about Jimmy Saville rapidly identified as Left wing extremists after they started calling Starmer a traitor and shouting insults and quotes such as "why have you targeted Journalists " this was a reference to Julian Estrange of all people.
It just goes to show they haven't sorted out their Riff Raff element, what we would have to look forwards to is a challenge to his leadership and some Trotskyite type becoming prime minister!
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Sproty,
It was anti vax protesters, according to the news.
Probably best to delete the post above, unless you know better than the media.
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Yes. Anti-vaxx protesters are responsible for everything these days aren't they? :whistle:
I'm not advocating violence but politicians like Starmer need to start being accountable for their appalling decision making and ignorance of the issues that matter.
He's probably still banging on about wallpaper and cheese and wine. Boring get.
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Shouldn’t that be anti-vaxxer Brexiteers?
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
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Far-right facists/anti-vaccers
Understand protestors were shouting at Starmer about Jimmy Savile & had a noose. This is just days after @BorisJohnson
repeated the false claim - regularly used by the far right - that the Labour leader failed to prosecute Savile when he was DPP
You can hear protestors shouting the slur “Were you protecting Jimmy Savile?” & “traitor” at Keir Starmer.
Simply disgraceful
https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1490746579187294218
https://twitter.com/REWearmouth/status/1490758596438773760
After being mobbed by protesters shouting “Jimmy Savile”, “traitor”, “paedophile” and “protecting paedophiles”, it is understood that Keir Starmer is OK, he was back at his desk soon after being driven away by the police.
https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1490753245400215557
Johnson knew exactly what he was doing, who it would appeal to and what the consequences would be. Expect more of this.
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C4 News identifying them as Resistance GB.
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Shouldn’t that be anti-vaxxer Brexiteers?
If you say so. I prefer fascist - its more accurate.
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Wonder if an old lady mugged on the streets would get a police car turn up as quick? :whistle:
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Wonder if an old lady mugged on the streets would get a police car turn up as quick? :whistle:
Not enough coppers now for some reason.
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Lynton Crosby, what a guy!
Much more of this to come all right.
No-one is reporting this as in the opening post, so where does that come from?
Not from the Tory mag "The Spectator" anyway;
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/mob-hound-starmer-outside-parliament
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I didn’t know anything about ResistanceGB so I looked them up.
I found this:
Resistance GB
@GbResistance
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Julian Assange is the world's most famous journalist. Thanks to Kier Starmer & others he remains unlawfully imprisoned in Belmarsh for having told the truth. Sadly Starmer declined to comment on his complicity tonight when questioned.
The same group have also harassed Michael Gove in the street for some reason.
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The further right politics goes the less compromise there is and johnson bears that out.
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Camera phone footage
https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1490754883724713987
https://twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/1490750884745289734
https://twitter.com/mi6rogue/status/1490762609116786695
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Disgusting
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
I guess the difference being she apologised aye?
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It is disgusting. No one should have to put up with that.
But. Those people are arseholes. Johnson showed why he should no longer be prime minister with his Savile quote last week, but he is not responsible for what those arseholes did to Starmer.
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
I guess the difference being she apologised aye?
SR, you are using “I guess” in lots of your posts.
Is that because you are guessing?
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It is disgusting. No one should have to put up with that.
But. Those people are arseholes. Johnson showed why he should no longer be prime minister with his Savile quote last week, but he is not responsible for what those arseholes did to Starmer.
whatever
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
I guess the difference being she apologised aye?
Only because she was pressured into doing so.
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
I guess the difference being she apologised aye?
Only because she was pressured into doing so.
But still an apology, slimeball johnson has yet to do that
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It is disgusting. No one should have to put up with that.
But. Those people are arseholes. Johnson showed why he should no longer be prime minister with his Savile quote last week, but he is not responsible for what those arseholes did to Starmer.
They are repeating the false accusations he used in Parliament and refused to retract, only 'clarify'. His advisor (who used to be one of this crowd RWP/Spiked) resigned as he ignored her when she told him not to do because she knew exactly what would happen. So did he.
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
Yes she apologised, how you can defend Johnson I do not know, this has all the same hallmarks of Trump running up to the Capitol riots
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Ringleader of the attack and main guy of RGB is a former Tory councillor:
https://twitter.com/WritesBright/status/1490790309223092226
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It is disgusting. No one should have to put up with that.
But. Those people are arseholes. Johnson showed why he should no longer be prime minister with his Savile quote last week, but he is not responsible for what those arseholes did to Starmer.
They are repeating the false accusations he used in Parliament and refused to retract, only 'clarify'. His advisor (who used to be one of this crowd RWP/Spiked) resigned as he ignored her when she told him not to do because she knew exactly what would happen. So did he.
She told him not to say it because it was wrong.
He said it because he is in desperate survival mode.
Do you really think those arseholes wouldn’t have done that to Starmer if Johnson had retracted it?
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
Yes she apologised, how you can defend Johnson I do not know, this has all the same hallmarks of Trump running up to the Capitol riots
That’s what some want you to think.
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Ringleader of the attack and main guy of RGB is a former Tory councillor:
https://twitter.com/WritesBright/status/1490790309223092226
Yeah, a quick Google reveals this Coleshill character appears to be a nut job.
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I'm sure there was no encouragement from those who seek to benefit most from creating further division in a western country, definitely not from the north and east.....
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And all because Starmer is getting the bettor of him at the dispatch box, you wouldn't want to see johnson's reaction to a national emergency .............
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Some of the protestors today were calling starmer a traitor for not opposing the govt. so are they not Labour supporters ? Am I missing something?
Moments before starmer was targeted this group were being addressed by none other than Piers Corbyn. These people are left wing. No question. They see him As a traitor to the left wing cause.
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Johnson accused by own MP's of inciting mob against Starmer - front page of tomorrow's Times
https://twitter.com/BBCHelena/status/1490815024826359808
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NR,
So you think Piers Corbyn and Resistance GB are Left wing....that is just unreal!
The guy running RGB is a former Tory councillor in Enfield, thrown out for racism.
William Coleshill....look him up.
Where are you getting this stuff from, if I might ask?
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Ok, let’s split this up.
Piers corbyn is left wing. No question. He only left the Labour Party over the Iraq war.
He is an anti vax, proponent of covid conspiracy theories, hence his latching onto RGB.
Anti vax crosses political boundaries of course.
So it was a mixed crowd I suppose. With left wing tendencies. Why else would they call starmer a traitor?
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NR.
Left-Right is not just a straight line. There are plenty of examples of people who have gone so far Left they have emerged at the Far Right.
Oswald Moseley was one. Claire Fox and the Spiked mob are modern examples.
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I’m fully conversant with left/ right politics. And the extremes. And the grey bits.
But starmer was called a traitor today. For not opposing the the Conservative govt.
so it’s pretty clear which side of the fence these calls came from.
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We're getting further away from the problem, johnson and those that elected him
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I’m fully conversant with left/ right politics. And the extremes. And the grey bits.
But starmer was called a traitor today. For not opposing the the Conservative govt.
so it’s pretty clear which side of the fence these calls came from.
And you think those are people from the Labour party? Or the ones who screamed at him that he was protecting paedophiles?
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I’m fully conversant with left/ right politics. And the extremes. And the grey bits.
But starmer was called a traitor today. For not opposing the the Conservative govt.
so it’s pretty clear which side of the fence these calls came from.
For not opposing the government regarding vaccinations. So they're calling him a traitor to the anti-vaxxers, not the Labour party. It does help if you know why they were shouting it and not making up your own reason.
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I’m fully conversant with left/ right politics. And the extremes. And the grey bits.
But starmer was called a traitor today. For not opposing the the Conservative govt.
so it’s pretty clear which side of the fence these calls came from.
And you think those are people from the Labour party? Or the ones who screamed at him that he was protecting paedophiles?
Upon reflection, I may have been generous supposing they were Labour Party voters.
Perhaps even more left of that. Or perhaps even far right . Or a mix of both.
And I’ve seen the footage, there was a single cry of Jimmy saville. Yet the MSM and everyone with an anti Johnson agenda run with just that.
He was surrounded today because of his politics, not because of anything he did or didn’t do as DPP. And for what it’s worth, I do not feel he was anything to do with the Saville thing.
The MSM sound bites are all over Johnson’s quote about Saville. The protest this group were part of today were nothing at all to do with that.
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I’m fully conversant with left/ right politics. And the extremes. And the grey bits.
But starmer was called a traitor today. For not opposing the the Conservative govt.
so it’s pretty clear which side of the fence these calls came from.
For not opposing the government regarding vaccinations. So they're calling him a traitor to the anti-vaxxers, not the Labour party. It does help if you know why they were shouting it and not making up your own reason.
If they are anti vax, and calling him a traitor, then by Definition they suggest that he himself should be anti vax?
Or is it just the case that they want him to oppose the tories stance on vaccinations?
Is there a difference?
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''I do not feel he was anything to do with the Saville thing'' hmmm
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I’m fully conversant with left/ right politics. And the extremes. And the grey bits.
But starmer was called a traitor today. For not opposing the the Conservative govt.
so it’s pretty clear which side of the fence these calls came from.
For not opposing the government regarding vaccinations. So they're calling him a traitor to the anti-vaxxers, not the Labour party. It does help if you know why they were shouting it and not making up your own reason.
If they are anti vax, and calling him a traitor, then by Definition they suggest that he himself should be anti vax?
Or is it just the case that they want him to oppose the tories stance on vaccinations?
Is there a difference?
They want him to oppose the Tories' stance. And to persuade him they shout "You should be f**king hung"?
Stop trying to find reasons for this and look at the elephant in the room. There has been NOTHING aimed at Starmer like this until within days of Johnson repeating a meme that had been quietly doing the rounds on fascist social media accounts.
If you don't think that Johnson's disgusting use of that meme has raised the pressure massively, I don't know where you have been this last week.
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Some of the protestors today were calling starmer a traitor for not opposing the govt. so are they not Labour supporters ? Am I missing something?
Moments before starmer was targeted this group were being addressed by none other than Piers Corbyn. These people are left wing. No question. They see him As a traitor to the left wing cause.
No, they see him as a traitor to the British people, along with the government and the mainstream media.
They seem to regard the vaccination program as being against their rights and the common law. Or something.
I would say this isn't a left/right issue. It's a sanity/idiocy issue.
The conspiracy theories appeal to extremists of both left and right. I think it's fair to say Johnsons remarks have helped stir up this hornets nest.
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Here is Will Coleshill of RGB;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCIOClwWUAA6J5B.jpg:large
Selfie with a friend thrown in.
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Here's an article by Monibot bemoaning how leftwing counter cultural movements are drawn into this stuff.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/22/leftwingers-far-right-conspiracy-theories-anti-vaxxers-power
His most pertinent line is this: There’s a temptation to overthink this, and we should never discount the role of sheer bloody idiocy.
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Here's an article by Monibot bemoaning how leftwing counter cultural movements are drawn into this stuff.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/22/leftwingers-far-right-conspiracy-theories-anti-vaxxers-power
His most pertinent line is this: There’s a temptation to overthink this, and we should never discount the role of sheer bloody idiocy.
That's right correct, only dingbats would swallow and follow.
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Poor old stabber, they got the traitor bit right though going over to Brussels at every opportunity over Brexit to see his mates, he is not one to be trusted, although mob rule is not on.
Democracy is a crap way to run a country, the problem is every other way is worse.
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
I guess the difference being she apologised aye?
Only because she was pressured into doing so.
But still an apology, slimeball johnson has yet to do that
It took her over a month to do so though
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
Yes she apologised, how you can defend Johnson I do not know, this has all the same hallmarks of Trump running up to the Capitol riots
I’m not defending Johnson, I’m pointing out both Tory and Labour politicians have done the same thing and words do have consequences
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Words have consequences, the PM’s slur has led to this, he’s still in office, this can’t go on, he’s a dangerous man, has not a care in the world for anyone else but himself!
Yep words do have consequences
https://news.sky.com/story/labour-conference-deputy-leader-angela-rayner-doubles-down-on-tory-scum-comments-12418461
I guess the difference being she apologised aye?
Only because she was pressured into doing so.
But still an apology, slimeball johnson has yet to do that
It took her over a month to do so though
But still an apology, slimeball johnson has yet to do that
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The headline of this post says "Keir Starmer attacked by mob".
I didn't see him being attacked, he was shouted at by a few people, I suppose it may have hurt his feelings though.
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The headline of this post says "Keir Starmer attacked by mob".
I didn't see him being attacked, he was shouted at by a few people, I suppose it may have hurt his feelings though.
Would you be happy to be on the end of that?
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Maybe they're a mixture of left and right wing, being anti-vaccines/lockdowns doesn't seem to dictate what side you're on. At the end of the day, minus Nudga I'm sure we can all agree that they're all t**ts.
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And what was the catalyst for it all?
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From Paul Embery, trade unionist and political commentator Twitter feed
When Rees-Mogg, Gove and Farage were abused on the street by baying mobs, most people didn’t give a toss. In fact, much of the Twitterati laughed along. My point is that people should be consistent about these things. If your outrage is selective, it ain’t genuine.
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From Paul Embery, trade unionist and political commentator Twitter feed
When Rees-Mogg, Gove and Farage were abused on the street by baying mobs, most people didn’t give a toss. In fact, much of the Twitterati laughed along. My point is that people should be consistent about these things. If your outrage is selective, it ain’t genuine.
Agreed but it should be much easier to control the language and actions of parliamentarians as they should be setting the standard. When MPs or those in their employ make a mistake they should acknowledge it and apologise, same for those on the forum.
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Starmer apologised on behalf of the organisation that he led about the fact that they failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile. The fact that he apologised suggests that he does bear some responsibility.
The fact is, that under his leadership time was spent prosecuting journalists instead of Jimmy Savile.
It was maybe tactfully wrong for Johnson to say it but it was technically right. The constant barrage of being called a liar obviously got to Johnson, and it pushed him to remark on the hypocrisy of it all.
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Starmer apologised on behalf of the organisation that he led about the fact that they failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile. The fact that he apologised suggests that he does bear some responsibility.
The fact is, that under his leadership time was spent prosecuting journalists instead of Jimmy Savile.
It was maybe tactfully wrong for Johnson to say it but it was technically right. The constant barrage of being called a liar obviously got to Johnson, and it pushed him to remark on the hypocrisy of it all.
He won’t give you a knighthood
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Starmer apologised on behalf of the organisation that he led about the fact that they failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile. The fact that he apologised suggests that he does bear some responsibility.
The fact is, that under his leadership time was spent prosecuting journalists instead of Jimmy Savile.
It was maybe tactfully wrong for Johnson to say it but it was technically right. The constant barrage of being called a liar obviously got to Johnson, and it pushed him to remark on the hypocrisy of it all.
Surely he should be used to it by now, as it's exactly what he is aye bb?
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And as Filo has remarked johnson won't say it outside parliament whereas right around the world people write books, newspaper articles, tv commentary, cartoons, every which way people have called johnson out for being a liar.
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Maybe they're a mixture of left and right wing, being anti-vaccines/lockdowns doesn't seem to dictate what side you're on. At the end of the day, minus Nudga I'm sure we can all agree that they're all t**ts.
You are absolutely right there, Donny.
It was a despicable act by thugs who, given the opportunity, will be doing it again today, tomorrow and so on to whoever they happen across.
Those who are directly blaming Johnson’s ‘Savile’ quote for what happened to Starmer are just as scary, in some ways.
If something similar happened to Johnson, if the same arseholes attacked him in the street, with the same level of abuse, then some on here would be saying that it’s not the fault of these poor thugs, because Johnson would have driven them to it.
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Maybe they're a mixture of left and right wing, being anti-vaccines/lockdowns doesn't seem to dictate what side you're on. At the end of the day, minus Nudga I'm sure we can all agree that they're all t**ts.
You are absolutely right there, Donny.
It was a despicable act by thugs who, given the opportunity, will be doing it again today, tomorrow and so on to whoever they happen across.
Those who are directly blaming Johnson’s ‘Savile’ quote for what happened to Starmer are just as scary, in some ways.
If something similar happened to Johnson, if the same arseholes attacked him in the street, with the same level of abuse, then some on here would be saying that it’s not the fault of these poor thugs, because Johnson would have driven them to it.
Name them
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Starmer apologised on behalf of the organisation that he led about the fact that they failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile. The fact that he apologised suggests that he does bear some responsibility.
The fact is, that under his leadership time was spent prosecuting journalists instead of Jimmy Savile.
It was maybe tactfully wrong for Johnson to say it but it was technically right. The constant barrage of being called a liar obviously got to Johnson, and it pushed him to remark on the hypocrisy of it all.
He won’t give you a knighthood
Can you get a knighthood for impartiality?
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when you think about it johnson mist be keeping thousands of comedians, writers, cartoonists, journalists and lawyers in work, there's a whole industry revolving just around him
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A few months ago, chief medical officer Chris Whitty was repeatedly called a liar by a young lad in the street. I'm sure the vast majority of the public would have been disgusted by this sort of behaviour.
I wonder if the young lad was merely copying the language of members of the house of commons towards the PM, and was puzzled by the outrage caused by simply expressing his opinion?
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A few months ago, chief medical officer Chris Whitty was repeatedly called a liar by a young lad in the street. I'm sure the vast majority of the public would have been disgusted by this sort of behaviour.
I wonder if the young lad was merely copying the language of members of the house of commons towards the PM, and was puzzled by the outrage caused by simply expressing his opinion?
You're victim blaming, everyone is the victim of johnson's lying arse one way or another.
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A few months ago, chief medical officer Chris Whitty was repeatedly called a liar by a young lad in the street. I'm sure the vast majority of the public would have been disgusted by this sort of behaviour.
I wonder if the young lad was merely copying the language of members of the house of commons towards the PM, and was puzzled by the outrage caused by simply expressing his opinion?
To be fair, Chris Whitty is fair game. I wonder how much Big Pharma paid him off to over rule the JCVI decision not to jab 12 year olds? The man must now be a multi millionaire.
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A few months ago, chief medical officer Chris Whitty was repeatedly called a liar by a young lad in the street. I'm sure the vast majority of the public would have been disgusted by this sort of behaviour.
I wonder if the young lad was merely copying the language of members of the house of commons towards the PM, and was puzzled by the outrage caused by simply expressing his opinion?
To be fair, Chris Whitty is fair game. I wonder how much Big Pharma paid him off to over rule the JCVI decision not to jab 12 year olds? The man must now be a multi millionaire.
I'll bet Whitty has a better case in court against you than any of your attempts to sue various others?
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I haven't got a bent bean to rub together sunshine. He can do what he likes.
Besides, i can say it's just a joke. Just like Jimmy Carr's was just a joke. ;)
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I haven't got a bent bean to rub together sunshine. He can do what he likes.
How have you been paying your lawyers?
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I haven't got a bent bean to rub together sunshine. He can do what he likes.
How have you been paying your lawyers?
Threats are usually sufficient to gain enough traction for change.
Anyway, stick to the subject matter fanny lips.
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I haven't got a bent bean to rub together sunshine. He can do what he likes.
How have you been paying your lawyers?
Threats are usually sufficient to gain enough traction for change.
I can imagine
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Ok old man
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File that letter with the other unrepresented legal threats ....................... ok, will do
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File that letter with the other unrepresented legal threats ....................... ok, will do
Keep on topic Sydney. Starmer attacked by mob. :thumbsup:
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File that letter with the other unrepresented legal threats ....................... ok, will do
Keep on topic Sydney. Starmer attacked by mob. :thumbsup:
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Or the new topic 'CDH sued for libel by respected scientist' :woohoo:
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Why would a tory minister make a dick of himself if johnson had already apologised???
''Johnson will not apologise for Jimmy Savile remark, says minister
PM urged to apologise for saying Keir Starmer failed to prosecute Savile, after protesters call Labour leader ‘paedophile protector’
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Starmer apologised on behalf of the organisation that he led about the fact that they failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile. The fact that he apologised suggests that he does bear some responsibility.
The fact is, that under his leadership time was spent prosecuting journalists instead of Jimmy Savile.
It was maybe tactfully wrong for Johnson to say it but it was technically right. The constant barrage of being called a liar obviously got to Johnson, and it pushed him to remark on the hypocrisy of it all.
He won’t give you a knighthood
Who was it that gave Starmer a knighthood for his services to the legal profession..? And why wasn't Boris condemning it at the time..?
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Does anyone actually, really, know what the mob were calling Starmer out for?
Some posters are suggesting why it might be but others have said, in their opinion of course, what it actually is.
Varying accounts of course so they can’t all be right.
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We're getting further away from the problem, johnson and those that elected him
File that letter with the other unrepresented legal threats ....................... ok, will do
Keep on topic Sydney. Starmer attacked by mob. :thumbsup:
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The headline of this post says "Keir Starmer attacked by mob".
I didn't see him being attacked, he was shouted at by a few people, I suppose it may have hurt his feelings though.
Would you be happy to be on the end of that?
No I wouldn't, but my point still stands, he wasn't attacked. If he was, those coppers would have arrested those people.
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It was the cops that got attacked. With traffic cones.
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Nudga.
Do you consider it normal when you're on your way home from work, to have people trying to block you as you walk, screaming "You want f**king hanging!" at you?
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The headline of this post says "Keir Starmer attacked by mob".
I didn't see him being attacked, he was shouted at by a few people, I suppose it may have hurt his feelings though.
Would you be happy to be on the end of that?
No I wouldn't, but my point still stands, he wasn't attacked. If he was, those coppers would have arrested those people.
He was verbally attacked, is this any less distressing than physically attacked? Less painful yes but less distressing?
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No it's not normal, and these people are f**kin idiots, but he wasn't attacked.
If there are longer videos than what I've seen where he or the police are being attacked then I stand corrected.
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The headline of this post says "Keir Starmer attacked by mob".
I didn't see him being attacked, he was shouted at by a few people, I suppose it may have hurt his feelings though.
Would you be happy to be on the end of that?
No I wouldn't, but my point still stands, he wasn't attacked. If he was, those coppers would have arrested those people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse
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Does anyone actually, really, know what the mob were calling Starmer out for?
Some posters are suggesting why it might be but others have said, in their opinion of course, what it actually is.
Varying accounts of course so they can’t all be right.
Yes. I posted links to three videos - one of them has subtitles - where you can see for yourself exactly what it was they were calling Starmer out for.
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What isn’t clear is were this group set up to target KS at that time and place, or was it just a case of wrong place wrong time and an opportunist encounter?
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Maybe they're a mixture of left and right wing, being anti-vaccines/lockdowns doesn't seem to dictate what side you're on. At the end of the day, minus Nudga I'm sure we can all agree that they're all t**ts.
You are absolutely right there, Donny.
It was a despicable act by thugs who, given the opportunity, will be doing it again today, tomorrow and so on to whoever they happen across.
Those who are directly blaming Johnson’s ‘Savile’ quote for what happened to Starmer are just as scary, in some ways.
If something similar happened to Johnson, if the same arseholes attacked him in the street, with the same level of abuse, then some on here would be saying that it’s not the fault of these poor thugs, because Johnson would have driven them to it.
Just to clarify, you are accusing the (I believe it is 12 to date) Tory MP's who have directly linked Johnson's quote to what happened of being scary?
Why then have these people, who reguarly hang around Parliament never attacked Starmer in this way previously? Is it just a coincidence they accussed Starmer of the same lie Johnson accused him of - when never having done it before he said those accusations?
What is scary is people's denial of facts and appeasement of liars. You know exactly where that leads.
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From one of the most right-wing commentators in the British press:
I think people are missing the point this morning. It's not that the crazy extremists heard what Boris was saying, then decided to copy him. It's that the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom heard what the crazy extremists were saying, and decided to copy them
https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1490967055079964673
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meanwhile, a Yorkshire TORY MP nailed it.....
What happened to Keir Starmer tonight outside parliament is appalling. It is really important for our democracy & for his security that the false Savile slurs made against him are withdrawn in full.
Julian Smith MP , Skipton and Ripon
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Starmer apologised on behalf of the organisation that he led about the fact that they failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile. The fact that he apologised suggests that he does bear some responsibility.
The fact is, that under his leadership time was spent prosecuting journalists instead of Jimmy Savile.
It was maybe tactfully wrong for Johnson to say it but it was technically right. The constant barrage of being called a liar obviously got to Johnson, and it pushed him to remark on the hypocrisy of it all.
I get it now. The fact that Johnson was under pressure for being called a liar over things that he categorically lied about justifies him propagating a meme dreamed up by fascist groups.
I'm glad we've got that sorted.
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I reckon it'd need more than me to get you sorted lad. You need proper help.
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What isn’t clear is were this group set up to target KS at that time and place, or was it just a case of wrong place wrong time and an opportunist encounter?
There's a good chance it was opportunist.
They've also harassed and chased Michael Gove and a BBC journalist.
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From Paul Embery, trade unionist and political commentator Twitter feed
When Rees-Mogg, Gove and Farage were abused on the street by baying mobs, most people didn’t give a toss. In fact, much of the Twitterati laughed along. My point is that people should be consistent about these things. If your outrage is selective, it ain’t genuine.
Dead right, Gloster. When Farage had a milk shake poured all over him in the street, some people on here thought it was hilarious, and that f*cking excuse for a comedian, lardarse Jo Brand, joked that it should have been battery acid.
Hypocrites.
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Correct SS, not a murmur out of them regarding the condemnation of those events, but they're all so precious when they get it back.
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It would seem in this case the words didn’t have consequences
https://order-order.com/2022/02/09/piers-corbyn-anti-starmer-mob-not-motivated-by-pm/?fbclid=IwAR0d6H5C8F8YIZJ02Zv86nqC1yLaiVILPZ78lxHUd_PWlHTbTCFBqqU7Gcs
https://www.channel4.com/news/it-was-a-false-flag-event-inside-the-mob-who-confronted-labour-leader
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It would seem in this case the words didn’t have consequences
https://order-order.com/2022/02/09/piers-corbyn-anti-starmer-mob-not-motivated-by-pm/?fbclid=IwAR0d6H5C8F8YIZJ02Zv86nqC1yLaiVILPZ78lxHUd_PWlHTbTCFBqqU7Gcs
https://www.channel4.com/news/it-was-a-false-flag-event-inside-the-mob-who-confronted-labour-leader
Guido would know - apparently they started it.
Just an amazing coincidence then he has never previously been baited with the Savile accusations until a week after Johnson mentioned them in Parliament - twice. Despite it being on fascist social media since Guido in 2018 and then the article in April 2020.
https://twitter.com/hopenothate?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/how-boris-johnsons-false-claim-about-jimmy-savile-gained-traction-as-a-far-right-conspiracy-theory-1436109?ito=twitter_share_article-top