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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Colemans Left Hook on February 25, 2022, 03:37:47 am
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They have been scraping by recently - very lucky against Wigan who had a good goal chalked out for 2-0 before scoring an undeserved worldie to scrape a point.
and also VERY lucky against Wednesday as we all know
Against Morecambe they won 2-0 but their manager admits they could have lost the match in the second half as Morecambe played football and took control (w.t.f)
remember they fell to bits at home when Mighty Fleetwood who beat them 4-2 and did the double over them beating them 1-0
if Smudge or Ladapo got injured they would be right in trouble
their next lot of matches are
Plymouth away saturday
Shrewsbury away tuesday
The MK Dons juggernaught home March 5th
A Mickey Mouse cup game midweek
Wycombe away On the Saturday ( mutual aerial bombardment here)
and they have virtually no "rabble teams" to play in the rest of their matches
Gillingham away last match
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In a word NO
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No they are a side that find a way to win. A good side will play poorly but still come away with a result, Rotherham have this trait.
They are too big, powerful, consistent and ruthless not to be promoted from this league.
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I think that their confidence will see them through, much as it grieves me to say they are a big powerful machine. Really surprised that Warne has not moved on to manage huger up, or that Smith has not had a big money move
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Yes they are a big, solid hard to beat side with good quality. Go up a league though and they become a big solid side with limitations.
They are a lower half , around the relegation zone championship side.
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Not now. They will get enough points to get promoted, not necessarily as Champions but does that really matter?
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No.
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No..
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Who cares? They are so far away from where we are at the moment it’s unfathomable.
The Will Grigg episode being the epitome of the situation.
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They are a few years on from where we are. Also they get slightly higher average attendances that give them greater chance of affording better players. They have a settled side they’ve built over a few seasons. Settled management team.
They’ve gone down the powerful, weigh them down way of playing. We tried the smaller technical way, that hasn’t worked. I think somewhere between the two is good for us.
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Is this a wind up? You’ve picked some results there in which they won 2 without conceding and drew the other against a promotion rival.
You also left out the 5-0 demolition of us. Bit of a strange post
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No
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No. In fact I hope they win every game as they have Lincoln, Shrewsbury x2 and Gillingham to play
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No, they’re too fit to give in.
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I very much doubt they will fail.
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No as above they can help us.
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They won't blow up.
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No....wishful thinking on your part, Coleman's.
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Certainly not.
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Sorry I don’t usually post on rival sites unless we’re about to play that team but as this is about my club I’ll give my tuppence worth.
We’ve not played well for a few months now, we stay in games and somehow or t’other manage to get the result.
Today for example Plymouth had 2 glaring misses and 2 shocking quite straight forwards crosses that would’ve been tap ins.
Every match I seem to be saying we got away with one there.
We’ve got a tough run of matches coming up, let’s see how it goes.
Good luck with your battle 4 points is nothing at the pointy end of the season.
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Sorry I don’t usually post on rival sites unless we’re about to play that team but as this is about my club I’ll give my tuppence worth.
We’ve not played well for a few months now, we stay in games and somehow or t’other manage to get the result.
Today for example Plymouth had 2 glaring misses and 2 shocking quite straight forwards crosses that would’ve been tap ins.
Every match I seem to be saying we got away with one there.
We’ve got a tough run of matches coming up, let’s see how it goes.
Good luck with your battle 4 points is nothing at the pointy end of the season.
I will be very surprised if your not champions.
Your a team that find a way to win.
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They will win the title imo.
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A thread talking about Rotherham sums up where we are
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Sorry I don’t usually post on rival sites unless we’re about to play that team but as this is about my club I’ll give my tuppence worth.
We’ve not played well for a few months now, we stay in games and somehow or t’other manage to get the result.
Today for example Plymouth had 2 glaring misses and 2 shocking quite straight forwards crosses that would’ve been tap ins.
Every match I seem to be saying we got away with one there.
We’ve got a tough run of matches coming up, let’s see how it goes.
Good luck with your battle 4 points is nothing at the pointy end of the season.
Obviously the posters on here rightfully haven't a clue about Rotherham and judge them solely on results
The Rotherham fan forgot to mention apart from the recent injury to Grigg they have have minimal injuries
to quote Warnes post match interview "Rode our luck as i think you need to. Whatever luck we didn't have last year it feels like we are using this year. I feel like I've banked it and I keep making a withdrawal every week "
the juggernaught won & rolls into Millmoor town on Saturday
perhaps we should change the title of the thread to will Wigan implode ???? :suicide: :suicide: :suicide: :suicide: there again perhaps not
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Their last 10 league games = 8 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat. That defeat came on 15 January.
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They could have lost to Plymouth but Should have lost to Shrewsbury who outplayed them in the second half but could only hit the post
Lets see if they get naught points on Saturday when the Juggernaught rolls into town
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Rotherham fans saying on radio sheffield tonight last they "could" have lost that 4 or 5 nil
they said it ,,, not yours truly.
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They could have lost to Plymouth but Should have lost to Shrewsbury who outplayed them in the second half but could only hit the post
Lets see if they get naught points on Saturday when the Juggernaught rolls into town
Despite the juggernaught getting an early puncture (player sent off for the pen after 26 minutes) and having only 3 wheels it won easily in the end.
Thankfully from a Rotherham point of view the juggernaught has to play Wigan
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..............if Smudge or Ladapo got injured they would be right in trouble
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Note the above comment in the original post of this thread which "at his moment in time" appears is trying to compete with the long running never ending "Wimbledon decaying" thread
......... your truly mentioned the possibility of injuries to the above two forwards
Guess what On Saturday night their manager said Ladapo was out for two weeks got suubed on Saturday.
in "Johnsonesque" language this might mean he is back Saturday week ( if Warne is trying to mislead us ) ---- but he will miss the "up and under" match against their mirror image team Wycombe, Grigg is still on crutches.
The Juggernaught play Cheltenham Tuesday before hosting the future Champions Wigan on Saturday
Ask me to predict the results of the two Saturday top of the table clashes and I haven't a clue. :aok: play the same games a couple of days later and the results would probably be different .
Funny how Wycombe always seem to recover their position in the table after they have taken a hammering and we have written them off yet again.
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So the Juggernaught steams on (or should i say MARCHes on) and overcame the Cheltenham Hurdles
if it beats Wigan on Saturday and Wycombe beat Rotherham then there really would be trouble at mill for Wigan as well as Rotherham
No idea what sort of team Wigan put out apart from player the bloke sent off on Saturday
and to think we have done the double over the Juggernaught :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
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Wigan paid the penalty (in more ways than one) for fielding a weakened team. Think Rotherham will do the same tonight through necessity
With McLean playing at first i distrusted the BBC statement - but he missed Saturdays match through suspension.
League One promotion-chasers Wigan started brightly despite making 11 changes from their weekend league win over Wimbledon, but Jamie McGrath prodded wastefully wide when clean through on goal.
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Wigan paid the penalty (in more ways than one) for fielding a weakened team. Think Rotherham will do the same tonight through necessity
With McLean playing at first i distrusted the BBC statement - but he missed Saturdays match through suspension.
League One promotion-chasers Wigan started brightly despite making 11 changes from their weekend league win over Wimbledon, but Jamie McGrath prodded wastefully wide when clean through on goal.
What is the point of getting to a semi final, one game from Wembley and playing a seriously weakened team.
That really is ridiculous.
I know promotion is the main target but to almost throw the game playing that 11 against a full strength Sutton Utd is madness imo.
Good luck to Spike tonight with his Hartlepool team against Rotherham.
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Is McLean just banned from League games, really struggling to keep up with suspensions and if they are competition specific etc
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Wigan paid the penalty (in more ways than one) for fielding a weakened team. Think Rotherham will do the same tonight through necessity
With McLean playing at first i distrusted the BBC statement - but he missed Saturdays match through suspension.
League One promotion-chasers Wigan started brightly despite making 11 changes from their weekend league win over Wimbledon, but Jamie McGrath prodded wastefully wide when clean through on goal.
What is the point of getting to a semi final, one game from Wembley and playing a seriously weakened team.
That really is ridiculous.
I know promotion is the main target but to almost throw the game playing that 11 against a full strength Sutton Utd is madness imo.
Good luck to Spike tonight with his Hartlepool team against Rotherham.
Warne claims (will someone please fact check this :suicide:) that he made a mere 8 changes against "boggle eyed mighty Hartlepool (with The Seagulls roaring them on)
one of their players said " they rowed their luck at times"
Warne certainly knows how to spin a literal "toss of a coin win" on penalties against lower league opposition.
The question is will they be going to Wembley twice in one season ?
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so that's 3 games for Rotherham without a win .. it's starting to dawn on yours truly from comments made that Rotherham could like Morecambe be thought as a one man team
The Juggernaught got a late equaliser on Saturday - Wigans goal - was just one of those things that happens- same applies to the Juggernaughts ... basically they cancelled each other out
just like Wycombe and Rotherham both matches between the pair ending 0-0
in the match at the NY they say the ball was out of play more in the game than on the pitch .
Wigan are at Crewe on Tuesday so the pressure again is on Rotherham against an improving previously "Missing Imps" team and the Juggernaught has some easy matches for now .. the hard ones come later.
Trouble at millmoor if Rotherham don't win
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Just realised Rotherham havent won any of their last 4. Matches not 3
Taking 2 points out of 9. In the league
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so Rotherham less a few bitten bits of fingernails got over the line
they were on top in the first half "allegedly" and overuun in the second
watch the Lincoln goalkeepers positioning or lack of it for the second Rotherham goal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uy2aJxSFVY
yes he hit it first time but what planet was the Lincoln goalkeeper on
and we talk about Rovers goalkeepers not standing in the middle of the goal
rotherham play against the 3rd tightest defence in the league today -- not sure how many Rotherham walking wounded will make it
meanwhile the Juggernaught play at a team beaten 6-0 last saturday whilst Wigans opponents only lost by a mere 5-0 (from memory)
Rotherham don't play til April 9 after this home to Lowly Charlton
some tough matches in there
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/rotherham-united/scores-fixtures/2022-04
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Maybe they are imploding. That was a shock today.
They are far from certain to finish in the top 2 now.
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Well hopefully they win the last game if we are still in with a shout
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Has anyone realised since Rotherham had that lucky win at Plymouth - even Warne admits they were lucky .....
Plymouth have quietly won 5 in a row without conceeding a goal
beat Accrington 4-0 at home on saturday ( how many times have Accrington conceeded 4 this season ?? answer a hell of a lot)
Portsmouth 1-0 at home
Bolton 1-0 away
AFC Wimbledon 2-0 home
Morecambe 2-0 home
yes a couple of "rabble" teams in there but still impressive and if they win tonight against May plus 10 others they will put more pressure on Wigan "imploding Rotherham" and the Juggernaught.
Oh forgot to mention Rotherham lost by the odd goal plus2
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Just checked Rotherhams fixtures and they are a concertina nightmare not so much music to their ears but they may well be musick after them
just imagine Smith gets injured
4 games in 9 days
Sat 09/04 15:00 L1 Charlton Home
Tue 12/04 19:45 L1 Portsmouth Away
Fri 15/04 13:00 L1 Ipswich Home
Mon 18/04 15:00 L1 Burton Albion Away
injury lawyers 4u ????
Wigan have a much biggher squad than Rotherham
Sat 02/04 12:30 L1 Bolton Home
Tue 05/04 19:45 L1 Accrington Stanley Home
Sat 09/04 15:00 L1 Lincoln City Away
Tue 12/04 19:45 L1 Burton Albion Away
Fri 15/04 15:00 L1 Cambridge Utd Home
Mon 18/04 15:00 L1 Ipswich Away
Sat 23/04 15:00 L1 Plymouth Home
Tue 26/04 19:45 L1 Portsmouth Away
Sat 30/04 12:30 L1 Shrewsbury Away
Full Wigan fixtures
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CLH , just to say that Rotherham have four games in ten days matey, not nine days.
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CLH , just to say that Rotherham have four games in ten days matey, not nine days.
if johnson can get away with porkies so can I
with Plymouth winning their 6th consecutive match to nil .... you could say another hound ;) has joined the hunt to catch the Rotherham fox..... Rotherham are nearly warne out
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Every team has a bad patch, Rotherham are having theirs. Sometimes being top for so long isn’t a good thing. Pressure mounts no matter how experienced your players are.
I think they will see it out. A few teams have found a way to play against them second half of the season, I’m sure their manager will find a solution to it.
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Their last 10 league games = 8 wins, 1 draw, 1 defeat. That defeat came on 15 January.
just checked their results since you pointed out the 8-1-1
they have played 5 league games since then resulting in 1-2-2
5 points out of 15
adding the Hartlepool for Johsonesque exageration we could claim 1 win in 6 games for what its worth
So the question is are there any "green shoots" of recovery of form to be had ?? perhaps tomorrows opposition might sell them a few packets of seeds to plant.
Perhaps I should stop taking the "pea" out of them you might say
both Wigan and the Juggernaught (a.k.a. MK Dons) have hard matches on paper both surprisingly being around even money to win
who knows what will happen on Saturday - don't ask me. Rotherham could find themselves in a stronger position for automatic promotion or they could be one step closer to a "deja vu" return to Wembley (at best) for the play offs
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from my last post
"both Wigan and the Juggernaught (a.k.a. MK Dons) have hard matches on paper both surprisingly being around even money to win
who knows what will happen on Saturday - don't ask me. Rotherham could find themselves in a stronger position for automatic promotion or they could be one step closer to a "deja vu" return to Wembley (at best) for the play offs"
as you know Wigan dropped some points but The Juggernaught rumbles on
tonight The Juggernaught hosts Crewe and on Saturday we have
AFC Wimbledon v Milton Keynes Dons again on paper those two matches look easy peasy (Rotherhams cup final also looked easy peasy)
Wigan the team yours truly has always believed would win this league ...... (play the local Land of The Giants team 'Cringeton - if they play that rookie 19 year old then for the frighteningly umpteenth time this season they may let 4 goals in.
As for Rotherham they are saying the Charlton game is an absolute must win game.
iT'S asking a bit much for Wigan to slip up again - we know Bolton are a decent team as opposed to an up and at em Accrinton as i have said many times- masquerading as a football team
as for The Juggernaught until it gets a puncture - you have to stay with them -- they have come a long way in a very very very short time and roll on.
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i looked at the full table including goal difference and saw that Rotherham in the league had conceeded only 5 league goals away - and then they let in 2 playing away at wembley - so explain that !!
a strange fact about all the top 6 teams is that they all have more away matches to play than home
wigan have 2 home games 5 away
mk 2 home 3 away
rotherham 3 home 4 away
plymouth 2 home 3 away
sheffw 2 home 4 away
wycombe 2 home 3 away
and 7th placed Sunderland have 3 home 3 away
yes WIGAN HAVE BEEN BETTER AWAY -- ( an irrelevant point is their under 23 side by chance played wednesday away yesterday and probably won 1-0 wendies had a man sent off) but will they bottle it ??
if ever a "winless"wimbledon team is going to give over 100% effort and more it is against the Juggernaught.
who knows who has their "Waterloo" today
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Having looked at who the top 7 are playing today only Rotherham are playing at home
obviously meaning the other 6 are all away so it is even more of a crucial match for them than first realised.
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Bloody hell. You've done well here. Dropped out the top 2.
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Can I change my mind lol
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I’m beginning to look at this again too - TBF my Rotherham supporting pal says they’ve not played well for a while now and even when top expected them to miss out on automatic promotion
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Away at Pompey tomorrow too
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Hammered 3-0 by Portsmouth.
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The fantasy double is still on. Rovers and Millers both stay in L1.
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Or treble if Barnsley come down.
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And the Wendies concede a 95th worldly in the play off finals.
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Or treble if Barnsley come down.
There's no IF about it .
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As most of you will know "Spy Sports" moved all 3 matches to Easter Saturday with staggered starts
Rotherham kicking off at 12-30
Wigan with an easy looking match - then follow - before a few harder ones to end the season
finally The Juggernaught host The Wendies in the evening -- amazingly Wendies are the favourites because they have more fans to BLINDLY bet on them (like fans Portsmouth do) than MK who haven't lost for yonks... winning nearly every match
I PRESUME "THEY EVEN CHOSE WHICH ORDER THE MATCHES WOULD BE PLAYED FOR HIGHER VIEWING FIGURES"
History has told us at Doncaster Rovers expense that the title is not won til the Fat Lady has sung been paid and the appearance money has cleared in the bank account.
Lest we forget (mentioning for the umpteenth time) Rovers were 50/1 ON to win to win the title under Ferguson and still lost it.
Wigan are only about 16/1 ON
what will be will be ........
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As most of you will know "Spy Sports" moved all 3 matches to Easter Saturday with staggered starts
Rotherham kicking off at 12-30
Wigan with an easy looking match - then follow - before a few harder ones to end the season
finally The Juggernaught host The Wendies in the evening -- amazingly Wendies are the favourites because they have more fans to BLINDLY bet on them (like fans Portsmouth do) than MK who haven't lost for yonks... winning nearly every match
I PRESUME "THEY EVEN CHOSE WHICH ORDER THE MATCHES WOULD BE PLAYED FOR HIGHER VIEWING FIGURES"
History has told us at Doncaster Rovers expense that the title is not won til the Fat Lady has sung been paid and the appearance money has cleared in the bank account.
Lest we forget (mentioning for the umpteenth time) Rovers were 50/1 ON to win to win the title under Ferguson and still lost it.
Wigan are only about 16/1 ON
what will be will be ........
this is ironic about what i said about it not being over til the fat lady has sung and banked her money
at this minute ( yes we expect it to change in the second half ??? or will it)) wigan are 2-0 down to Cambridge ---- well done to Rotherham today.
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and it seems my bank manager now prefers Rotherham to win this division "it's a funny old world"
gaz's mates i suspect "had it off "in the second half of the Wigan match - the stats must have told them something well done "just"
The Juggernaught got derailed by Wednesday ( the first goal could have been unfortunate - haven't seen it) and these two "could " meet again at Wembley
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and it seems my bank manager now prefers Rotherham to win this division "it's a funny old world"
gaz's mates i suspect "had it off "in the second half of the Wigan match - the stats must have told them something well done "just"
The Juggernaught got derailed by Wednesday ( the first goal could have been unfortunate - haven't seen it) and these two "could " meet again at Wembley
there seemed nothing unfortunate about the first goal MK conceeded after viewing it. Yes Bannon scored a "donkey drop goal" - the ball dropped perfect any anyone could have done that if their luck was in
Tonight we have a triple header
we have WIGAN with 1 point out of 6 : Rotherham who have held on to win one in a row - don't ask when their last win was before that -- and The Juggernaught who have now also taken only 1 point out of 6
Wigan could only draw 0-0 at Burton and tonight Rotherham go there and are surprisingly as low as 4/5 on to win that
Before Rotherham beat Ipswich they were 25/1 in places and now have been as low as 3/1 a few hours ago
Wigan are a best priced 3/1 ON -- remember as the fat lady was rehearsing they were 16/1 ON
and the Juggernaught is 33/1 in places
27 possible results as to the outcomes tonights treble match prediction and yours truly hasn't a clue (again) who will do what.
let's see if any of you are brave enough to predict the 3 results by posting your views on here
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Burton 1 Rotherham 2
Ipswich Town 1 Wigan Athletic 2
Oxford United 0 Milton Keynes Dons 1
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my bank manager selects :-
Burton 0 Rotherham 0
Ipswich Town 0 Wigan Athletic 0
Oxford United 0 Milton Keynes Dons 1
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what can I say about last nights roller coaster matches
Rotherham were one down in a flash after a very long throw and were torn to shreads then rallied late on and missed chance after chance late on as they suddenly fouind some form.
you know all about the waiting for a bus lark and they suddenly all come at once
Rotherham as you all know had conceeded 5 goals all season away then they let in that many in 2 games .... tore the "expected goals conceeded per game " stat to bits
It would have been a smart move for The Bank of Ipswich's point of view to let money bags Wigan win that match -- to get them out of the way for when they throw more money at it next season.
Just imagine our owners had spent as much money as them (to please the fans) and had a season like Ipswich's
Ipswich are the Bristol City of the League One both throw money down the drains - it's a wonder they aren't blocked.
Ipswich seemed to be on top yet out of form Wigan took the lead just before half time - Ipswich then scored twice to take the lead before Wigan equalised late on .
The Juggernaught seemed to be on top - but their goal scoring boots aeem to be at the Cobblers ( who of course were closed for the Easter holidays)
If only Sheff Wednesday had a manager they would have walked this league - that's why as i said to someone on here i refused to have a penny on them.
I think i fantasised on here early on in the season about Wendies getting into the second spot 5 minutes from the end of the last match - meaning their highest position of the season - i have seen this done before !!
they could do it
update
found it
and here is the information i was given on December 24th :zzz:
An early Christmas present to all the Rovers fans from the famous Crystal Ball. (And to shut bloody CR up!)
Merry Christmas!
I am not going to mention a certain fact :thumbdown:............
my information is that with 5 minutes of the 46th match of the season to go the wendies will move into second place ( the automatic promotion spot) for the first time behind Wigan .
I am that far behind in the P & O that I asked Santa :santa: for a pair of binoculars for Christmas so I can actually see who is top of the P & O
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What can I say about these 3 well mannered teams Wigan Rotherham & The Juggernaught (which can't afford petrol anymore)
I am sure there has never been anything like this with 3 of them attempting to snatch the "status quo" from the jaws of promotion
For fun i wanted Wednesday to win on saturday so they could get 2nd place with a bit of luck . Now for even more fun I want them to not make the play offs - like a lot of you all on here
I don't think that John Jules hasn't even played a single minute for them ....
Wednesday have enough strikers to form their own PICKET LINE
and Tinker-Moore can never pick a proper team -
did anyone listen to that wycombe game when Wycombe players to quote the amusing Staton were going down injured "with a twisted sock etc" dark arts to the extreme again.
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There are quite a few threads on here i have not had the time to " add to"
but with the imminent match on Saturday i decided i must check out how Rotherham actually fared from my initial post when was it 19 of you wanted men in white coats to visit me
I was just after the midweek game
as you can see Rotherham had played 33 and had 72 points an average of 2.18 points per game and were on target for 100.36 points
in the 13 league games (excluding making very hard work of eventually eliminating the minnows - former non league teams Hartlepool and Sutton )
they won 5 --- drew 3--- lost 5 ----- gaining 18 points from 13 matches averaging 1.38 points per match which projects to 63.69 points over a full season
Ok they crawled across the line having got rid of a certain player ( who tried to do to the club - what Sunpat did to Johnson) and just about deserved promotion - but the warning signs (that was an accidental pun) had been there for all to see --- even the manager realised how lucky they had been all season
So the humble pie has been made and is available for the 19 " neighers" to consume at their leisure