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Title: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: 1-0 to the Doncaster on April 15, 2022, 06:01:36 pm
Can’t believe how little stick mcsheffery gets. Bit better today in parts.
That forward line has to be the worst ever.
Defence and keeper have been abysmal all year.
I’m afraid the excuses that it’s not my team don’t wash.
Clayton aside the players he’s brought in are garbage.
He doesn’t help himself by taking off the best player after 75mins! 
He now has a worse record than Wellens.
So obvious the players just don’t understand the structure formation and tactics.

Mcsheffery out!!
Joke of a club.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 15, 2022, 06:04:22 pm
It won't and isn't going to happen sadly.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: normal rules on April 15, 2022, 06:05:56 pm
I could not work out Bostock being subbed?
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2022, 06:10:19 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: dickos1 on April 15, 2022, 06:12:08 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?

Exactly
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 15, 2022, 06:13:41 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?

If you've only watched today's game and nothing since he's took over in between then yes.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 15, 2022, 06:16:41 pm
We’ve played a load of teams recently that either have nothing to play for or are bizarrely almost as bad as we are. The only side we have beaten is Crewe, who are so bad I am ashamed that we only managed to put two past them.

They’ve normalised losing. Another day, another loss. How was work dear, ok we lost again.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: since-1969 on April 15, 2022, 06:16:56 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?
if yet another loss is a sign of progress , then relegation must be the panicle of our season !!!
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2022, 06:17:37 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?

If you've only watched today's game and nothing since he's took over in between then yes.

We were ok at Wycombe, better at Crewe and possibly even better today in a lot of ways. We are improving, I’ve got rock solid numbers to prove it. Will we improve enough to get to where we need to be to have a good tilt at promotion next season? Who knows.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2022, 06:18:34 pm
We’ve played a load of teams recently that either have nothing to play for or are bizarrely almost as bad as we are. The only side we have beaten is Crewe, who are so bad I am ashamed that we only managed to put two past them.

They’ve normalised losing. Another day, another loss. How was work dear, ok we lost again.

Crewe won today. We played ok against WW who are going for promotion. We are better than we were two months ago.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: 1-0 to the Doncaster on April 15, 2022, 06:19:58 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2022, 06:26:01 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 15, 2022, 06:31:20 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.

One who's still not match fit sharp whatever you want to call it.

Won't see him bagging until next season week in week out.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2022, 06:37:18 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.

One who's still not match fit sharp whatever you want to call it.

Won't see him bagging until next season week in week out.

I think he needs to work on his movement and his work rate could be a bit better. Definitely got potential though.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: ChrisBx on April 15, 2022, 06:47:54 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?

If you've only watched today's game and nothing since he's took over in between then yes.

We were ok at Wycombe, better at Crewe and possibly even better today in a lot of ways. We are improving, I’ve got rock solid numbers to prove it. Will we improve enough to get to where we need to be to have a good tilt at promotion next season? Who knows.

Out of interest, whose data do you use?
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Campsall rover on April 15, 2022, 06:54:01 pm
Can’t believe some of the comments on here.

We played really well today. Only difference was the finishing.
They scored one more than us.

We really should have won that game. We had twice as many good chances as them at least.

If we had played with that intensity all season we wouldn’t be going down.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Avsuptem on April 15, 2022, 06:56:57 pm
Can’t believe some of the comments on here.

We played really well today. Only difference was the finishing.
They scored one more than us.

We really should have won that game. We had twice as many good chances as them at least.

If we had played with that intensity all season we wouldn’t be going down.

Me neither.
On another day we would have won that game, the football Gods were against us
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Campsall rover on April 15, 2022, 06:59:08 pm
Oh why was it a bad decision to take Bostock off. We had to win the game.
So he brought a striker on. Oh and in case some of you didn’t notice he scored a cracking goal.
Yes first one for us but it worked so how can you criticise GM when it worked.

There are some who have decided no matter what you are not having GM as manager.
Bad news for you, he is going to be manager next season. So give the guy a chance to build his own team and then judge him in 6/7 months time.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: scawsby steve on April 15, 2022, 06:59:21 pm
Can’t believe some of the comments on here.

We played really well today. Only difference was the finishing.
They scored one more than us.

We really should have won that game. We had twice as many good chances as them at least.

If we had played with that intensity all season we wouldn’t be going down.

We would if we conceded 2 poor goals every game.

You can have all the intensity in the world, Camps; it means nothing if you can't take chances, and can't defend for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Campsall rover on April 15, 2022, 07:02:14 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.
Gaz there are some real numpties on this site. You and me are seeing it as it is. Some only see what they want to see.
Griffiths did well today. He has great potential and will do well next season in league 2 imo.
We do need another proven striker though.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Campsall rover on April 15, 2022, 07:04:43 pm
Can’t believe some of the comments on here.

We played really well today. Only difference was the finishing.
They scored one more than us.

We really should have won that game. We had twice as many good chances as them at least.

If we had played with that intensity all season we wouldn’t be going down.

We would if we conceded 2 poor goals every game.

You can have all the intensity in the world, Camps; it means nothing if you can't take chances, and can't defend for 90 minutes.
Sorry SS if you can’t take any positives from today then I give up.

I am gutted after losing that. The lads gave it everything. We can’t ask for more than 100% effort and that’s what we got.
We are short of a goal scorer end of.   
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2022, 07:08:10 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?

If you've only watched today's game and nothing since he's took over in between then yes.

We were ok at Wycombe, better at Crewe and possibly even better today in a lot of ways. We are improving, I’ve got rock solid numbers to prove it. Will we improve enough to get to where we need to be to have a good tilt at promotion next season? Who knows.

Out of interest, whose data do you use?

I work for a football data analytics company and one of the biggest football betting syndicates in the country.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: scawsby steve on April 15, 2022, 07:08:57 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.
Gaz there are some real numpties on this site. You and me are seeing it as it is. Some only see what they want to see.
Griffiths did well today. He has great potential and will do well next season in league 2 imo.
We do need another proven striker though.

Camps, you're slipping back into your old habit of throwing insults at people who have a different opinion to you. You and Gaz are no more knowledgeable on football than the rest of us.

This has been one of the most atrocious seasons in the entire history of DRFC. How you, Gaz, or anyone else can defend the club right now is beyond me.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Draytonian III on April 15, 2022, 07:15:02 pm
Can’t believe some of the comments on here.

We played really well today. Only difference was the finishing.
They scored one more than us.

We really should have won that game. We had twice as many good chances as them at least.

If we had played with that intensity all season we wouldn’t be going down.



My thoughts exactly, but those around me thought the same , in fact if McSheffrey had been in charge from the start of the season we would not be getting relegated
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: GazLaz on April 15, 2022, 07:15:52 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.
Gaz there are some real numpties on this site. You and me are seeing it as it is. Some only see what they want to see.
Griffiths did well today. He has great potential and will do well next season in league 2 imo.
We do need another proven striker though.

Camps, you're slipping back into your old habit of throwing insults at people who have a different opinion to you. You and Gaz are no more knowledgeable on football than the rest of us.

This has been one of the most atrocious seasons in the entire history of DRFC. How you, Gaz, or anyone else can defend the club right now is beyond me.

Can I buy the NFT of Scawsby’s reply please VSC.

Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Campsall rover on April 15, 2022, 07:18:54 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.
Gaz there are some real numpties on this site. You and me are seeing it as it is. Some only see what they want to see.
Griffiths did well today. He has great potential and will do well next season in league 2 imo.
We do need another proven striker though.

Camps, you're slipping back into your old habit of throwing insults at people who have a different opinion to you. You and Gaz are no more knowledgeable on football than the rest of us.

This has been one of the most atrocious seasons in the entire history of DRFC. How you, Gaz, or anyone else can defend the club right now is beyond me.
SS I am defending todays game.
If you don’t think that was a massive improvement then what was it ?

No I am not defending the season or the club on recruitment. It has been awful and I have said as much previously as you well know.
But there are some ridiculous comments being made about todays match.  I am entitled to have mine.

When we play rubbish I will say so, when we are good I will say so.
There are some who only want to see the negatives. 

Apart from scoring only one goal we looked like a proper football team today. I was proud to wear the shirt today.

As for the season as a whole it has been shocking.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Spud on April 15, 2022, 07:30:07 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

Do you not think he tried today?
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Campsall rover on April 15, 2022, 07:39:30 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

Do you not think he tried today?
He ran his socks off. They all did.  Smith must be on something. Where does he get that engine from.
Shame some have blinkers on Spud.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: roversdude on April 15, 2022, 07:42:27 pm
Yes we got beat, yes we are going down but we played well today and it gives hope for next season.
I’m having a day off from Rovers tomorrow, off to watch Rosso, might try and get a cheese and ham panicle whatever one of those are lol
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: scawsby steve on April 15, 2022, 07:44:43 pm
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.
Gaz there are some real numpties on this site. You and me are seeing it as it is. Some only see what they want to see.
Griffiths did well today. He has great potential and will do well next season in league 2 imo.
We do need another proven striker though.

Camps, you're slipping back into your old habit of throwing insults at people who have a different opinion to you. You and Gaz are no more knowledgeable on football than the rest of us.

This has been one of the most atrocious seasons in the entire history of DRFC. How you, Gaz, or anyone else can defend the club right now is beyond me.

Can I buy the NFT of Scawsby’s reply please VSC.

OK, you've got me. What does NFT mean?
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: roversdude on April 15, 2022, 07:45:15 pm
CR it’s been the same all season even when we play well there are some posters who can’t tear themselves away from the negativity and admit we played well. As for Griffiths yes he tried, he’s talented and with a preseason under his belt he could set the league on fire
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Chris Black come back on April 15, 2022, 07:47:03 pm
Of that side today Smith, Mipo, Galbraith and Martin will not be here next season. Bostock highly likely will not be here next season.

33 year old Tommy Rowe and 33 year old Adam Clayton aside, who else from that side today gives anyone hope for next season?

It’s not a strong team and the secret six who’ve sat out this season are unlikely to all be here next year either.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: normal rules on April 15, 2022, 07:56:04 pm
Oh why was it a bad decision to take Bostock off. We had to win the game.
So he brought a striker on. Oh and in case some of you didn’t notice he scored a cracking goal.
Yes first one for us but it worked so how can you criticise GM when it worked.

There are some who have decided no matter what you are not having GM as manager.
Bad news for you, he is going to be manager next season. So give the guy a chance to build his own team and then judge him in 6/7 months time.

If you think the goal was “cracking” then that’s a good indication as to how far our standards have dropped.
It was a bang average goal. All he had to do was hit it. No control needed. No movement needed. Point blank range.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Canadian Rover on April 15, 2022, 08:00:20 pm
Of that side today Smith, Mipo, Galbraith and Martin will not be here next season. Bostock highly likely will not be here next season.

33 year old Tommy Rowe and 33 year old Adam Clayton aside, who else from that side today gives anyone hope for next season?

It’s not a strong team and the secret six who’ve sat out this season are unlikely to all be here next year either.

I actually like Olowu, Knoyle, Smith & Martin (I'd try to sign them both) and I think Younger is better than Williams (but admit most see it otherwise) and I think Reo will do well with a PROPER target man alongside him - we'd have done so much better this season with Chris Brown as our target man (even at his age and fitness he'd still be better than Cukur and Dodoo) Hiwula, Gardener, Dodoo, Anderson, Taylor, Fej, John, Barlow and Bostock (even though he's very very talented naturally) would all be welcome to leave for me... As well as one of the GKs and I'd bring in another stronger more commanding GK.

Here's the crazy part.

I'm good with HOF from inside the club and also happy to see GMC & FS given another crack next season.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Campsall rover on April 15, 2022, 08:10:58 pm
Oh why was it a bad decision to take Bostock off. We had to win the game.
So he brought a striker on. Oh and in case some of you didn’t notice he scored a cracking goal.
Yes first one for us but it worked so how can you criticise GM when it worked.

There are some who have decided no matter what you are not having GM as manager.
Bad news for you, he is going to be manager next season. So give the guy a chance to build his own team and then judge him in 6/7 months time.

If you think the goal was “cracking” then that’s a good indication as to how far our standards have dropped.
It was a bang average goal. All he had to do was hit it. No control needed. No movement needed. Point blank range.
Oh for heavens sake it hit the back of the net not the back of the stand.
What is a matter NR. Incapable of praise when it’s is due.  He could easily have blasted that 15 foot high as he has in the past.  19 year old lad low on confidence.

Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: bpoolrover on April 15, 2022, 08:21:11 pm
Can’t believe some of the comments on here.

We played really well today. Only difference was the finishing.
They scored one more than us.

We really should have won that game. We had twice as many good chances as them at least.

If we had played with that intensity all season we wouldn’t be going down.

We would if we conceded 2 poor goals every game.

You can have all the intensity in the world, Camps; it means nothing if you can't take chances, and can't defend for 90 minutes.
Sorry SS if you can’t take any positives from today then I give up.

I am gutted after losing that. The lads gave it everything. We can’t ask for more than 100% effort and that’s what we got.
We are short of a goal scorer end of.   
the problem is your wanting him to take positives 43 games into the season, most of the players probably won't be here next season so any improvement and effort is to little to late
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: normal rules on April 15, 2022, 08:28:47 pm
Oh why was it a bad decision to take Bostock off. We had to win the game.
So he brought a striker on. Oh and in case some of you didn’t notice he scored a cracking goal.
Yes first one for us but it worked so how can you criticise GM when it worked.

There are some who have decided no matter what you are not having GM as manager.
Bad news for you, he is going to be manager next season. So give the guy a chance to build his own team and then judge him in 6/7 months time.

If you think the goal was “cracking” then that’s a good indication as to how far our standards have dropped.
It was a bang average goal. All he had to do was hit it. No control needed. No movement needed. Point blank range.
Oh for heavens sake it hit the back of the net not the back of the stand.
What is a matter NR. Incapable of praise when it’s is due.  He could easily have blasted that 15 foot high as he has in the past.  19 year old lad low on confidence.



All things considered I thought it was a reasonable team performance.
Rowe, smith, Clayton, Bostock, Williams all stood out for me. Galbraith was nice and lively when he came on too.
I don’t buy the low in confidence.
He just ain’t good enough.
Happy to be proved wrong next season of course.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: RoversAlias on April 15, 2022, 08:53:04 pm
Of that side today Smith, Mipo, Galbraith and Martin will not be here next season. Bostock highly likely will not be here next season.

33 year old Tommy Rowe and 33 year old Adam Clayton aside, who else from that side today gives anyone hope for next season?

It’s not a strong team and the secret six who’ve sat out this season are unlikely to all be here next year either.

I actually like Olowu, Knoyle, Smith & Martin (I'd try to sign them both) and I think Younger is better than Williams (but admit most see it otherwise) and I think Reo will do well with a PROPER target man alongside him - we'd have done so much better this season with Chris Brown as our target man (even at his age and fitness he'd still be better than Cukur and Dodoo) Hiwula, Gardener, Dodoo, Anderson, Taylor, Fej, John, Barlow and Bostock (even though he's very very talented naturally) would all be welcome to leave for me... As well as one of the GKs and I'd bring in another stronger more commanding GK.

Here's the crazy part.

I'm good with HOF from inside the club and also happy to see GMC & FS given another crack next season.

There is absolutely no chance of Josh Martin playing in League Two next season.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: pib on April 15, 2022, 08:55:54 pm
We’ve improved in the past couple of weeks. Woah, f**king hell! Put the flags out!

It’s only taken the gaffer 20 games to realise we can’t just kick it anywhere and hope. If he wastes half of next season making blinding errors, I’m sure it’ll be ok when we end up finishing 13th in League Two as long as we get it right for a handful of games at the end.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Canadian Rover on April 15, 2022, 09:00:36 pm
Of that side today Smith, Mipo, Galbraith and Martin will not be here next season. Bostock highly likely will not be here next season.

33 year old Tommy Rowe and 33 year old Adam Clayton aside, who else from that side today gives anyone hope for next season?

It’s not a strong team and the secret six who’ve sat out this season are unlikely to all be here next year either.

I actually like Olowu, Knoyle, Smith & Martin (I'd try to sign them both) and I think Younger is better than Williams (but admit most see it otherwise) and I think Reo will do well with a PROPER target man alongside him - we'd have done so much better this season with Chris Brown as our target man (even at his age and fitness he'd still be better than Cukur and Dodoo) Hiwula, Gardener, Dodoo, Anderson, Taylor, Fej, John, Barlow and Bostock (even though he's very very talented naturally) would all be welcome to leave for me... As well as one of the GKs and I'd bring in another stronger more commanding GK.

Here's the crazy part.

I'm good with HOF from inside the club and also happy to see GMC & FS given another crack next season.

There is absolutely no chance of Josh Martin playing in League Two next season.

He couldn't get into a L1 teams team this season.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: ravenrover on April 15, 2022, 09:04:43 pm
Do you know what, for what little it matters to anyone else I actually enjoyed watching us today. There were some good passing movements mostly involving Bostock but most of all there was some effort and a willingness to compete. I have accepted we are down but today was the 1st time in a long time I enjoyed watching Rovers
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: LincolnDonny on April 15, 2022, 09:05:27 pm
McSheffrey = could not organise a piss up in a Brewery
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 15, 2022, 09:18:53 pm
Do you know what, for what little it matters to anyone else I actually enjoyed watching us today. There were some good passing movements mostly involving Bostock but most of all there was some effort and a willingness to compete. I have accepted we are down but today was the 1st time in a long time I enjoyed watching Rovers

I agree with this. We looked like a decent team today, just lacking the attacking quality needed in this league.

A few weeks ago, I wanted rid of GMc for next season, because the football we were playing was absolutely diabolical. However, we've started trying to play again in the last few weeks. How much that's down to GMc, and how much it's down to the return of Bostock, I suppose we'll have to see.

I have no issue watching my team lose whilst putting in the effort and trying to play football. Obviously today was frustrating, but it was also encouraging.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 15, 2022, 10:28:53 pm
Chicken and egg though isn't it? How could mcsheffrey play football without his best midfielders available?
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: danumdon on April 15, 2022, 10:56:52 pm
The effort that went into today's game was the minimum benchmark that we should of been achieving from Christmas onward after RW departure and the addition of the new eight in the new year. The fact that it's took till this late in the season to see some effort and commitment is criminal, i can excuse that we have players who are not match fit, returning from injury or just not up to scratch, what i can't forgive is the lack of effort, commitment, desire and hunger to improve their lot.

Telling point for me today, after the effort and commitment that did go into today's match. Late on in the second half, another Bolton player is rolling around on the floor and the ref is giving him all the time in the world to waste, The majority of the team are near the dug outs taking on fluids and looking very fatigued, where was GM, he was stood 10yards away on his own looking into space, the team are out on their feet, they were in dire need of some direction and leadership, what did thy get, absolutely nothing!, no quite words, no geeing up, no back slapping or cajoling to stick to the plan, nothing.

I know GM is not a demonstrable character of a manger but this was taking it to the extreme, i'd of thought some quite words from the manager should of been the minimum the team should expect.

We all do leadership in our own ways but this to me looked unforgivable, i don't see a leader there at all, i see a coach who has said his piece and leave's it at that, not the way for me, every manager i know who has had some success demonstrates leadership, coaching and mentoring skills at every opportunity he can take.

Disappointing.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 15, 2022, 11:11:44 pm
I think we'd be justified to look elsewhere when relegation is confirmed. But also understand the desire to let GM show what he can do with a preseason and hopefully some better players.

The lack of a style or play or identity is what lost me with GM for long periods our only tactic was to boot the ball away from our goal towards theirs. It was U8s stuff. Maybe that was a conscious effort to improve our defence which neglected what we could do or maybe the player weren't there to even try playing. My worry is our up tick in this is purely that we have Bostock available a player way too good for us and who will play as his natural game. Take him out and are we back to boot it blindly or is the improvement down to GM coaching... time will tell.

GM will be here next season i really don't see the board moving him on because they really want to get back to stability. Relegation was almost factored/accepted in when Wellens left so the drop won't be a shock that draws a reactionary sacking.

So going into the summer we've two big risks that the HoF needs to keep check of. 1 is the quality of signings in Jan (yes hard market) and summer has been awful this cannot repeat. 2 is can the manager organise a team and deliver an identity so the club can build around it on and off the pitch. If GM's tactic's/style continues to be pick an 11 and hope then he can't last long next season. Same for Younger if GM is given tools like he has this year again his position has to be at risk.
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Post by: roversdude on April 15, 2022, 11:18:30 pm
I’m wondering if the HOF has been delayed whilst a decision on GMc is made
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Post by: pib on April 15, 2022, 11:21:23 pm
I’m wondering if the HOF has been delayed whilst a decision on GMc is made

I’d like to think the opposite would be true and that the HoF will be part of that decision. Otherwise, what’s the point?!
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: RoversAlias on April 16, 2022, 01:11:05 am
Of that side today Smith, Mipo, Galbraith and Martin will not be here next season. Bostock highly likely will not be here next season.

33 year old Tommy Rowe and 33 year old Adam Clayton aside, who else from that side today gives anyone hope for next season?

It’s not a strong team and the secret six who’ve sat out this season are unlikely to all be here next year either.

I actually like Olowu, Knoyle, Smith & Martin (I'd try to sign them both) and I think Younger is better than Williams (but admit most see it otherwise) and I think Reo will do well with a PROPER target man alongside him - we'd have done so much better this season with Chris Brown as our target man (even at his age and fitness he'd still be better than Cukur and Dodoo) Hiwula, Gardener, Dodoo, Anderson, Taylor, Fej, John, Barlow and Bostock (even though he's very very talented naturally) would all be welcome to leave for me... As well as one of the GKs and I'd bring in another stronger more commanding GK.

Here's the crazy part.

I'm good with HOF from inside the club and also happy to see GMC & FS given another crack next season.

There is absolutely no chance of Josh Martin playing in League Two next season.

He couldn't get into a L1 teams team this season.

Means nothing. Martin has lots of ability and has on numerous occasions been our creative spark. Opponents take note of him as one of our best players list weeks, and he's highly thought of at Norwich. He'll either be in and around their squad next season or loaned out to a League One team.
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Post by: andyst79 on April 16, 2022, 07:32:28 am
I got a letter from Reo Griffiths on Thursday thanking me for buying a season ticket.
He said he would try his best and would be a good player.
What a bloody liar

For f**ks sake. What planet are people on. The lads a Raw novice that’s started about 10 games in first team league football in his life.

One who's still not match fit sharp whatever you want to call it.

Won't see him bagging until next season week in week out.

I think he needs to work on his movement and his work rate could be a bit better. Definitely got potential though.
Must be frustrating for the lad as a lone striker something we've lacked all season is a forward who can hold the ball up and make a nuisance of himself
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Copps is Magic on April 16, 2022, 08:24:05 am
We've improved by virtue of some better players becoming available, nothing to do with GM, I still don't see any discernable impact he's had on the team.

Problem is, Wycombe didn't really have to break a sweat to beat us, Bolton broke a sweat for a couple of 10-minute periods and that was enough. The same fundamental problems are there, can't defend, school boy errors, can't score goals.
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Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 16, 2022, 08:40:58 am
We've improved by virtue of some better players becoming available, nothing to do with GM, I still don't see any discernable impact he's had on the team.

Problem is, Wycombe didn't really have to break a sweat to beat us, Bolton broke a sweat for a couple of 10-minute periods and that was enough. The same fundamental problems are there, can't defend, school boy errors, can't score goals.

This. Yesterday apart from Barlow that 11 all season wouldn't be in the bottom 3.
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Post by: monkeytennis on April 16, 2022, 09:26:31 am
Can’t believe some of the comments on here.

We played really well today. Only difference was the finishing.
They scored one more than us.

We really should have won that game. We had twice as many good chances as them at least.

If we had played with that intensity all season we wouldn’t be going down.

100%.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: DRFCSouth on April 16, 2022, 09:24:36 pm
There has been an improvement of sorts. Albeit it has come off the back of however many signings in January.

Has it been enough considering who was brought in? Probably not. I did think it would take a couple of months for players to gel. And yet that seemed to coincide with a terrible goalless run through March.

Have recent upturns in performance of individuals coincided with their desire to be elsewhere next year? More than likely.

Overall, I'm not seeing that much improvement on RW.
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Post by: Chris Black come back on April 16, 2022, 09:30:58 pm
Since those 2 goals away at AFC Wimbledon on 26 February when we gave ourselves a tiny glimmer of hope, we have only scored 3 goals in 7 games.
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Post by: Campsall rover on April 16, 2022, 10:16:23 pm
Since those 2 goals away at AFC Wimbledon on 26 February when we gave ourselves a tiny glimmer of hope, we have only scored 3 goals in 7 games.
CBcb we know what the problem is. We have had the problem all season.

Last two games we have had 19 attempts on goal. That’s 38 with 3 goals scored.
With a goal scorer we wouldn’t be where we are.
Morecambe have conceded more goals than us but they have Cole Stockton. That’s the difference.
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 16, 2022, 11:04:46 pm
Since those 2 goals away at AFC Wimbledon on 26 February when we gave ourselves a tiny glimmer of hope, we have only scored 3 goals in 7 games.
CBcb we know what the problem is. We have had the problem all season.

Last two games we have had 19 attempts on goal. That’s 38 with 3 goals scored.
With a goal scorer we wouldn’t be where we are.
Morecambe have conceded more goals than us but they have Cole Stockton. That’s the difference.

Tbf the last 3 games have been outliers. We actually average the least shots per game in the whole of League One, second least across the top 4 divisions.
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Post by: GazLaz on April 17, 2022, 01:10:35 am
Since those 2 goals away at AFC Wimbledon on 26 February when we gave ourselves a tiny glimmer of hope, we have only scored 3 goals in 7 games.
CBcb we know what the problem is. We have had the problem all season.

Last two games we have had 19 attempts on goal. That’s 38 with 3 goals scored.
With a goal scorer we wouldn’t be where we are.
Morecambe have conceded more goals than us but they have Cole Stockton. That’s the difference.

Tbf the last 3 games have been outliers. We actually average the least shots per game in the whole of League One, second least across the top 4 divisions.

The last three games have been outliers because they are the most recent games and we are improving week on week.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 17, 2022, 08:41:20 am
Since those 2 goals away at AFC Wimbledon on 26 February when we gave ourselves a tiny glimmer of hope, we have only scored 3 goals in 7 games.
CBcb we know what the problem is. We have had the problem all season.

Last two games we have had 19 attempts on goal. That’s 38 with 3 goals scored.
With a goal scorer we wouldn’t be where we are.
Morecambe have conceded more goals than us but they have Cole Stockton. That’s the difference.

Tbf the last 3 games have been outliers. We actually average the least shots per game in the whole of League One, second least across the top 4 divisions.

The last three games have been outliers because they are the most recent games and we are improving week on week.

Aye. I don't disagree that we've improved recently.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 17, 2022, 10:02:51 am
If GM or RW for that matter, were able to field the same XI every match then some of the above comments about improvement or lack of it would be reasonable. Both have mitigating circumstances due to the non availability of the 7 key players for most of the season and having to constantly mix and match to try and put a team out.

The spine of the team needs sorting out however, with Mitchell, Anderson, John, Olowu, Bostock, Clayton, Close, Fejiri, Griffiths there's a good spine already on the books that would help make any managers competence less questionable.

Of course, how many of the above stay on/get fit is unknown at the moment but it's easy to see where the problems stem from.

Stick with GM see what a HoF can bring to the party.

Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: 1-0 to the Doncaster on April 17, 2022, 11:02:24 am
Whilst we may have slightly improved over the last 2 games, reading these posts it is clear the expectations of fans have dropped massively over the last 18 months.
How many of these players would have got into the starting 11 of recent previous seasons? When we were last in league 2 these players would be on the bench at best. IMO to suggest there is a spine of team here is way off the mark.

A struggling league 2 team for the next 3 seasons is where we are heading. We have the resources to be better than this. Playoffs minimum next year - but not a chance with this manager and squad.
Change is needed. Feel sorry for board as the January investment has been wasted by McShefferey.
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Post by: roversdude on April 17, 2022, 11:55:32 am
I’m struggling to get my head around the Agard signing still, signed him sung his praises and then ignored him, no wonder he got a hamstring injury the first time we needed him in anger
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Post by: Goole Rover on April 17, 2022, 12:27:06 pm
Can’t believe how little stick mcsheffery gets. Bit better today in parts.
That forward line has to be the worst ever.
Defence and keeper have been abysmal all year.
I’m afraid the excuses that it’s not my team don’t wash.
Clayton aside the players he’s brought in are garbage.
He doesn’t help himself by taking off the best player after 75mins! 
He now has a worse record than Wellens.
So obvious the players just don’t understand the structure formation and tactics.


Mcsheffery out!!
Joke of a club.
I can’t understand how anyone can create a post like this it’s the same old story knitting needles at the guillotine “off with his head”. Management is a difficult job you make many mistakes when you set out McSheffery is no different it’s a skill that develops you need time. Did he have a chance to recruit decent players, no. The January window is like our fish market at 4-30 all the decent stuffs gone you’re left with the fish that no one wants at a reduced price. We have lost too many games by the odd goal it’s very obvious that our strike force is well below par and who should you blame for this without any doubt is Darren Moore. It was very obvious to all those who have watched and played the game that Alfie May was developing into a decent player but not to Darren. Give our manager a chance to recruit in the close season when the better specimens will be available.
Really sorry that you were disappointed that the crowd didn’t react on Friday they probably had a better understanding of the situation.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on April 17, 2022, 12:28:58 pm
The problem is we’ve been making allowances for the manager and team all season, this has turned us into professional losers.
We need a strong mentality and squad that when there are injuries players come in and do a job.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: andy didcott on April 18, 2022, 03:38:03 pm
Needs to go asap.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Rovers91 on April 18, 2022, 03:39:06 pm
Agree, don't have any faith in him to turn it around next season.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Donnybax on April 18, 2022, 03:43:25 pm
Do people not think we are improving? Improvement from where we were to being a functioning team was never going to be an overnight thing was it?
not in the slightest. We’re absolutely dreadful, with a better squad than we had
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Daniel_Smith on April 18, 2022, 03:43:39 pm
The board won't get rid of McSheffrey until they've given him a crack at League 2. They're also hoping the majority of fans are apathetic enough to just let them do what they like. There should have been more of an uproar when they gave McSheffrey the job in the first place ahead of supposed "high calibre" candidates. There wasn't, and so they believe you'll all be quite content with League 2 mediocrity. Maybe a lot of you will? You tell me.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: Upton Rover on April 18, 2022, 03:44:01 pm
Get him out
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: The Dav on April 18, 2022, 03:47:32 pm
40 mins gone and 3 down ! And tbh Shrewsbury aren’t even all that ! Come on Gary and Frank….thanks for trying, however do the decent thing and go !
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Post by: Wild Rover on April 18, 2022, 03:58:52 pm
Sorry to have to say the whole club needs a big shake up. Players, Management, Board ( though unlikely board will do anything remotely like what is required, as there are no Club buyers around, so we are told).

Its in the hands of Mr Bramall, Blunt and co.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: The Dav on April 18, 2022, 04:07:37 pm
It’s nothing more than we deserve! The way we’ve been this season, it’s been an embarrassment from the start, when I look back at the progress we made from getting back into the league all that time ago in Stoke, I only wish John Ryan had managed to keep things going for us ! But it’s all history now, he just didn’t have enough mula !   
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 18, 2022, 04:15:56 pm
Do people want our board to pick his replacement? They might not be malicious but they've certainly showed themselves to be incompetent.
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: ravenrover on April 18, 2022, 08:19:38 pm
40 mins gone and 3 down ! And tbh Shrewsbury aren’t even all that ! Come on Gary and Frank….thanks for trying, however do the decent thing and go !
And it ended?
Don't you feel a t!t now? Shamefull
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: The Dav on April 18, 2022, 08:28:51 pm
Not at all, I call it as I see it, Raven ! You may be a nice bloke or but please don’t come on here name calling giving it the ‘big un’
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: ravenrover on April 18, 2022, 08:54:45 pm
Wouldn't dream of it where have I name called?, but I don't see any recognition for the 2nd half or is there only one half in the games you comment on
Title: Re: As soon as it’s confirmed get rid
Post by: The Dav on April 18, 2022, 09:00:17 pm
It’s been a long shocking season Raven, so lets leave it there eh ? I’ll stand by my comments made as I’m sure you will do, but trust me flower, I certainly don’t feel a tit ! Or Shameful…..enjoy your evening. 
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Post by: ravenrover on April 18, 2022, 09:07:41 pm
I already have enjoyed my evening, 7 year old grandaughters birthday, thanks. Flower is probably not the best adjective to describe me as though, like you stick by the written word