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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: DonnyOsmond on April 18, 2022, 07:32:21 pm
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c1vsy9
Quite blunt and honest.
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Listening to that doesn't give me much hope.
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Not the most inspiring for next season is it
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Very odd interview.
At times responded well.
At other times sounded completely disinterested.
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Given the circumstances and the line of questioning, I don't have a problem the way he responded.
If you didn't have hope with him before today, I doubt very much you would change your mind.
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He mentioned three or four key back room personnel that we were lacking.
I’d like to know what these roles are?
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Just seen an interview on sky sports thinks we could stay up saying you never know
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He does not seem to accept we are down either?
Perhaps when he looks at the table later tonight he will have a re think.
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He mentioned three or four key back room personnel that we lacking.
I’d like to know what these are?
First one is a good manager.
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Rabbit in headlights. When asked about how do you change a losing mentality - answer you change the personnel.
He has to go.
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Totally delusional. He cant recall the sequence of results earlier in the season, wont admit we are well and truly relegated, passes the blame onto his backroom staff, thinks we have a strike force that has come good, etc. etc. I have no faith whatsoever that he is the right man going forward. Seemed aghast when told the number of goals conceded.
And by the way, good on Tom for asking very direct questions that need to be asked!
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Shocking interview.
Doesn’t know how to answer and the answers he does give have no substance. Even gets naggy towards the interviewer.
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I thought what he said was alright tbf. He knows what's wrong with the club and plans to address that. If we bring in someone new they'll be coming in blind at this stage. The best choice right now is to keep GM.
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Missed chances to put the ball in the net ! Wtf……Gary you’ve got to shoot before we can hit the back of the onion sack ! Clearly punch drunk, poor lad !
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Wouldn’t surprise me if he ends up as our new head of football
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imagine that guy from bbc humberside asking the questions.. he would rip him to shreds....
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He has never inspired me in any interview. That is one of my problems with him.
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What is with wanting more back room staff? We’re now a L2 club how can we have 3-4 extra staff on top of what we have! Can’t just bring in new coaches to make up for your own failings.
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We've never had so many back room staff.
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What is with wanting more back room staff? We’re now a L2 club how can we have 3-4 extra staff on top of what we have! Can’t just bring in new coaches to make up for your own failings.
Would sooner us have two good centre forwards on the pitch brought in who can create and know where the onion bag is..
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He has never inspired me in any interview. That is one of my problems with him.
imagine that guy from bbc humberside asking the questions.. he would rip him to shreds....
Burnsey would absolutely hammer him if how he grilled Grant McCann to submission is anything to go by..
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You can literally drive a bus through some of those answers.
I love the one about……..so, you’ve got 2-3 months to sort all this out. How are going to do it. Answer - Well, we’re going to have some meetings!
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We've never had so many back room staff.
Smacks of not knowing what your doing. Need to delegate more because I don’t actually know how to coach x,y and z.
If we have a recruitment guy a HoF and 3-4 1st team coaches what exactly is the manager doing? Picking an 11 and making subs? Get down to Sunday league if that’s all you want to do
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We've never had so many back room staff.
Smacks of not knowing what your doing. Need to delegate more because I don’t actually know how to coach x,y and z.
If we have a recruitment guy a HoF and 3-4 1st team coaches what exactly is the manager doing? Picking an 11 and making subs? Get down to Sunday league if that’s all you want to do
What's wrong with bringing in a coach who is 7/10 at something instead of making the manager do their best at something they're 4/10 at?
As a Rovers fan I want the best people possible in to do each role, don't you? Or would you just want the manager to do it all?
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DEinY:
Would sooner us have two good centre forwards on the pitch brought in who can create and know where the onion bag is.
…….and a keeper, a rb, lb, 2 solid cb’s and 2 or 3 good midfielders?
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We've never had so many back room staff.
Smacks of not knowing what your doing. Need to delegate more because I don’t actually know how to coach x,y and z.
If we have a recruitment guy a HoF and 3-4 1st team coaches what exactly is the manager doing? Picking an 11 and making subs? Get down to Sunday league if that’s all you want to do
What's wrong with bringing in a coach who is 7/10 at something instead of making the manager do their best at something they're 4/10 at?
As a Rovers fan I want the best people possible in to do each role, don't you? Or would you just want the manager to do it all?
We’ve 4 1st team coaches including the manager. Not sure what the normal number for a L2 club is but I’m sure that’s about the norm or over the norm. It’s Maybe more that what we had recently since Dickov had Paul Butler as coach (think it was Dickov) I think we’ve just had a assistant and manager plus all the sports science team which we also have now.
So another 3-4 coaches is too much. If the head coach is so poor at coaching all these elements why is he in the job? Why don’t we employ a manager that doesn’t need a 8 man coaching team to get his players remotely organised? Every other club seems to manage it and finish above us.
As a rovers fan I want the best people in each role and that starts with the manager. If he’s not that person getting the rest in is just an expensive waste I’m afraid. In principle I agree with you. In this situation it’s just madness.
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Good interview for me,
Whatever he said you’d have the usual folk slagging it off
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He’s given us more good interviews than points. It’s just Dickov all over again pick a team and hope no thought beyond that
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He’s given us more good interviews than points. It’s just Dickov all over again pick a team and hope no thought beyond that
He’s a lot better manager than dickov,
He’s made mistakes, it’s his first job!
But dear me people wanted him sacked before he’d even been appointed, not many people
Wanted to give him a chance.
Being in charge for 3.5 months, taking over a side bottom of the league, if you didn’t think it would take longer than 3.5 months to sort it out then you’re in cuckoo land
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He’s given us more good interviews than points. It’s just Dickov all over again pick a team and hope no thought beyond that
He’s a lot better manager than dickov,
He’s made mistakes, it’s his first job!
But dear me people wanted him sacked before he’d even been appointed, not many people
Wanted to give him a chance.
Being in charge for 3.5 months, taking over a side bottom of the league, if you didn’t think it would take longer than 3.5 months to sort it out then you’re in cuckoo land
Hope he comes good. I was ok with him in been given the job think he did ok as caretaker and I’m all for not going for the same old merry go round of managers.
I even accepted relegation so long as there was something to build on for next season. Didn’t expect him to sort the whole club out.
He’s made mistakes but I can’t think of anything that’s gone right for him either. Just needed that little bit of hope.
Put it this way if he was a young player and has this many poor performances or mistakes he’d never play again. It’s harsh it’s competitive and not nice but the pro game is a high level for players and coaches
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A young player like Jones, Horton, Ravenhill, Blythe and Co...
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c1vsy9
Quite blunt and honest.
Lacking a resignation.
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A young player like Jones, Horton, Ravenhill, Blythe and Co...
Jones is nearly 24. Not sure he's that young anymore, as a footballer.
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Let’s say inexperienced then just like GM is an inexperienced manager. Why is he getting to make more mistakes than our inexperienced players?
What talent has he shown to justify this faith? That’s all I want to see before we let him sign players on 2-3 year deals in the summer.
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Let’s say inexperienced then just like GM is an inexperienced manager. Why is he getting to make more mistakes than our inexperienced players?
What talent has he shown to justify this faith? That’s all I want to see before we let him sign players on 2-3 year deals in the summer.
Inexperienced players play in youth games and U23 games where they make mistakes and are picked up on it. Being a players is different to being a manager in terms of learning on the job.
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He was given an opportunity to make a name for himself in management by keeping us up. It wasn’t an easy job, but he had plenty of time to turn things around.
We have had opportunities galore to stay up , and haven’t taken them. I think a different manager could have had us out of this before now.
We are reliant on other results going our way and winning both remaining games. Not easy, especially the Oxford game.
If we play like we did second half against Shrewsbury,we have a chance. The manager needs to start with Griffiths and Odubeko up front. We have to win and need something up top.
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He was given an opportunity to make a name for himself in management by keeping us up. It wasn’t an easy job, but he had plenty of time to turn things around.
We have had opportunities galore to stay up , and haven’t taken them. I think a different manager could have had us out of this before now.
We are reliant on other results going our way and winning both remaining games. Not easy, especially the Oxford game.
If we play like we did second half against Shrewsbury,we have a chance. The manager needs to start with Griffiths and Odubeko up front. We have to win and need something up top.
Not sure what you are on mate, we need a 18 goal swing to have a remote chance!
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You can literally drive a bus through some of those answers.
I love the one about……..so, you’ve got 2-3 months to sort all this out. How are going to do it. Answer - Well, we’re going to have some meetings!
That one made me shudder. "We'll have some meetings"? Have they not been discussing this glaring problem yet?
On top of this, the fact he has made absolutely ZERO improvement to the effectiveness of the defence raises questions about his ability to coach players of any level. He was lauded as a great coach of the youth players, what exactly was he doing with them that was so great when it is glaringly obvious that he is totally ineffective at coaching a first team? I don't doubt he could be great at supporting and encouraging youngsters to work hard and believe in themselves but that alone doesn't make him a great coach.
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Whet a lacklustre interview. No drive whatsoever, no firmness, no positivity, just a weak wishiwashi set of words and answers. If he’s like that with the players then no wonder our performances are in the same vein!
We need someone with drive and positivity, especially in the face of adversity. I’d hate to have him next to me in the trenches when the going got tough.
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Sammy we need an 18 goal difference swing to stay up as well as 6 points on Gillingham thats not going to happen.
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The good young managers like Graham Potter, Steve Cooper etc have a clear plan and will follow through with that even when it’s poor they keep trying to play a certain way. SOD had that too so even at the start when we were abject under him you could see he was working towards something.
GM genuinely doesn’t have this. It’s just change formation and combinations of players until we stumble on a win. Someone needs to ask him how does he see a DRFC team playing in 2 years time and what he’s doing to bring that to reality. Like I’ve said before it’s Dickov all over again.
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He looks defeated every time I see him. It’s sad, he seems a decent bloke , who has done the best he could.
I think he has done as much as he can. If he kept us up I would still think the same.
It needs a fresh start. Some energy injected into the place. Improvement is needed throughout the football side.
Get Coppinger in as manager, inexperienced I know.
Get Sean O’Driscoll in as head of football, or Richard O’Kelly, or someone of that ilk. Rebuild the scouting system. Have a way of playing and get players in prepared to put the necessary work in.
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He never said he wanted more coaching staff.
He said we need to change some of the back room staff.
Obviously the fitness side has been lacking. We could see it and GM said when he took over the fitness levels were lacking.
People need to listen to the interview properly and stop making 2+2 = 5 it doesn’t.
There are many on here who have decided no matter what GM isn’t the man for the job.
Yes he has made tactical mistakes of course he has.
Some of the players are simply not up to it, not good enough.
Most of GMs recruitment in Jan was good. Only Jackson Mipo and Agard have not been a success.
As for Wellens, nearly all his recruitment has been sub standard and the fitness levels under RW was a disgrace.
Give GM the summer to bring in the right characters and clear out the dead wood.
If we are not top 6/7 at least at end of October then questions need to be asked because I am sure only Bradford, Bristol Rovers ( if still in league 2 ) possibly Salford and Swindon will have a comparable budget or better.
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I'd argue that Mipo, Jackson were flops. Mitchell isn't good enough, Younger (although I like him) was deemed not good enough, Agard a mysteryss signing, Clayton (too late) and Reo promising player but signed at the wrong time/situation.
Now I do not blame the manager 100% for the transfers either.
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I'd argue that Mipo, Jackson were flops. Mitchell isn't good enough, Younger (although I like him) was deemed not good enough, Agard a mysteryss signing, Clayton (too late) and Reo promising player but signed at the wrong time/situation.
Now I do not blame the manager 100% for the transfers either.
Don’t understand why some don’t think Mitchell is good enough. He has been excellent. Made some outstanding saves. Brilliant shot stopper, very brave. Best keeper we have had on crosses since Deing.
Although the previous few we have had have not taken much beating in that dept.
He does need to quicken up his distribution.
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Being an inexperienced manager being interviewed is like an experienced poster on a thread, to some people they all speak B*****S but the manager does it to cover up what he really thinks most of the time.
The posters in most cases are on the outside looking in with not all the information and guess what's going on.
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Yes like yourself Selby and the rest of us.
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If wellens signings are that bad then why is gm playing them instead of the signings he made
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Your right Sammy, but I can afford to smile.
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Good glad you can. Are you Bobby’s dad?. If so you will know a bit more than the rest of us.
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GM’s interviews reflect his personality. He is quiet and thoughtful and may not meet everyone’s idea of how a manager should sound. He thinks carefully about his answers and tries to respond accurately.
Surely he should be judged on his answers rather than the tone of his voice. SOD and Fergie in particular were similar, measured, and frank.
I don’t agree that he is like Dickov, yes, he spoke softly too, but was inclined to be secretive and rarely did you come away from listening to him any the wiser about what he had been asked about.
Someone who is loud and “passionate” may appeal to some of those listening, but do such people not appreciate that everyone does not respond to that kind of leader. In any case, he is not managing the fans; his job is with the players.
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If wellens signings are that bad then why is gm playing them instead of the signings he made
Younger was brought in for the future. Now Williams is fit his experience is more beneficial.
Who is he not playing Elmsall? Mitchell, Clayton, Martin, Griffiths, all playing regularly.
He has realised Jackson is not good enough, Agard is now injured, Mipo playing or sub.
So your question does not make any sense whatsoever.
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I'd argue that Mipo, Jackson were flops. Mitchell isn't good enough, Younger (although I like him) was deemed not good enough, Agard a mysteryss signing, Clayton (too late) and Reo promising player but signed at the wrong time/situation.
Now I do not blame the manager 100% for the transfers either.
Don’t understand why some don’t think Mitchell is good enough. He has been excellent. Made some outstanding saves. Brilliant shot stopper, very brave. Best keeper we have had on crosses since Deing.
Although the previous few we have had have not taken much beating in that dept.
He does need to quicken up his distribution.
Agree with that although most of the time the distribution is slow because nobody has moved for him. Similar to throw ins - in fact if I was an opposition manager I’d play similar to rugby kick for touch in our defensive area, knowing that we will mess the throw in up and give possession back