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Title: YouGov poll of Brits on French elections
Post by: SydneyRover on April 30, 2022, 12:52:50 pm
''Here in Britain, Macron is the preferred candidate, by 37% to Le Pen’s 19%. The largest portion of the public (44%), however, do not seem to be au fait with French politics, answering “don’t know”.

The results show that Conservative voters and Leave voters would prefer to see Marine Le Pen emerge victorious. Those who backed the Tories in 2019 support Le Pen over Macron by 37% to 24%, while those who voted to leave the EU in 2016 prefer her by 35% to 19%.

Remain and Labour voters overwhelmingly back Macron, by 62% to 7% and 53% to 8%, respectively.''

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/04/15/37-19-britons-would-prefer-emmanuel-macron-win-fre

Title: Re: YouGov poll of Brits on French elections
Post by: drfchound on April 30, 2022, 07:22:37 pm
What percentage of people who were remainers but not Labour voters wanted Macron to win.
Also what about people who were conservatives but also remainers, what percentage of those wanted Macron to win?
Title: Re: YouGov poll of Brits on French elections
Post by: normal rules on May 04, 2022, 08:21:23 pm
Meanwhile, support for the Italexit movement is steadily growing in Italy.
Title: Re: YouGov poll of Brits on French elections
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 04, 2022, 08:39:01 pm
What makes you say that NR?
Title: Re: YouGov poll of Brits on French elections
Post by: danumdon on May 04, 2022, 10:44:50 pm
Meanwhile, support for the Italexit movement is steadily growing in Italy.


The way things are at the moment there is absolutely no chance of the Italians voting to exit the EU.
Title: Re: YouGov poll of Brits on French elections
Post by: normal rules on May 05, 2022, 08:12:11 am
What makes you say that NR?

The shape of the curve of nationalist, anti EU voting in France and Italy is only going one way at the moment.
Macron has batted off the risk of a Frexit vote, for now.
Consider the impact UKIP had since their inception in the 90’s.  A party written off by Cameron himself as fruitcakes and loonies.

UKIPs growing vote share in national elections:
1999 European elections 7%
2001 General election 1.5% (saved deposit in one seat)
2004 European elections 16%
2005 General election 2.3% (saved deposit in 38 seats)
2009 European elections 16.5%
2010 General election 3.2% (saved deposit in 100 seats)
2014 European elections 27.5%

I see a similar pattern emerging in France and Italy. It will take a few more years though before the shit hits the fan.
Title: Re: YouGov poll of Brits on French elections
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 05, 2022, 02:22:54 pm
Italy had its big surge in Eurosceptic party support in the mid 2010s. It then faded away as the economy improved and La Lega was seen to be in the pockets of the Kremlin (funny how many far right Eurosceptics are in league with Putin...I wonder why?)

As far as I can see, there is no move towards an increase in Euroscepticism in Italy, despite what some of our shit rag Press would have you believe. The Express recently ran a headline "BLOW to Brussels as Italexit party support surges". When you looked deep into the text, the party in question had gone up from 3% to 4.2% in an opinion poll. But how many Express readers drill down into the 13th paragraph?