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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: DonnyOsmond on June 21, 2022, 04:59:43 pm
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2022/june/luke-molyneux-is-a-rovers-player/
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Midfielder I think, but looks an interesting player.
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Another very good signing, well done Gary, Steve & Copps for getting this one over the line.
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Christ, that’s one hell of a signing for you guys. I saw him a number of times for Hartlepool and he was easily one of their best, if not their best player almost each time. Got a cracking engine on him, not afraid to get stuck in and knows where the goal is. I genuinely thought he’d end up in League 1 this season.
If signings like this don’t excite you then not much will!!
Well done Donny!
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I imagine he'll play wide right and look to cut inside. His left foot looks lethal.
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Great signing! Reading Hartlepool fans comments on twitter pretty much everyone is gutted he's gone!
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Again right age left footed scores goals at league 2 Hartlepools player of the year. Let’s hope these young lads will progress together.
Now the question where is Hiwula and Dodoo still no answer ??
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Christ, that’s one hell of a signing for you guys. I saw him a number of times for Hartlepool and he was easily one of their best, if not their best player almost each time. Got a cracking engine on him, not afraid to get stuck in and knows where the goal is. I genuinely thought he’d end up in League 1 this season.
If signings like this don’t excite you then not much will!!
Well done Donny!
im excited by this response.
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Christ, that’s one hell of a signing for you guys. I saw him a number of times for Hartlepool and he was easily one of their best, if not their best player almost each time. Got a cracking engine on him, not afraid to get stuck in and knows where the goal is. I genuinely thought he’d end up in League 1 this season.
If signings like this don’t excite you then not much will!!
Well done Donny!
If you want to see non-excitement, just wait for eyeore since-1969 to post about this signing.
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Player of year, player’s player of year and top scorer last season.
No wonder their fans are gutted.
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Just said same about dodoo and hiwula
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Midfielder I think, but looks an interesting player.
Played wide right or up front as a link-up man this season. Could be a decent partner for Miller.
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Him and the lad yesterday both actually look pleased and wanted to be here. Most of the signings last year, well…
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Things look as if they are coming together really happy with all the signings so far, get a left back of good quality and I can see this season being the polar opposite to last
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Cracking signing, this. Molyneux is a lively, talented forward who will cause loads of problems for defences. The thought of a fully-fit Griffiths, Miller and Molyneux in the final third with Rowe breaking forward as well is a genuinely exciting one.
He'll play off the flank or can be utilised up front, got a real eye for goal and plenty of energy. Great work by Copps and McSheffrey.
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If Dodoo and Hiwula are on the way out, we are probably short one or two wide or attacking players, who will likely be loans. The left back needs to be permanent. Depending on where we are expecting Rowe to be played, perhaps a permanent central midfielder is needed also.
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Possibly the goals that Tommy Rowe and Luke score will take some pressure off of the forwards and also more importantly, our defence.
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Cracking signing, this. Molyneux is a lively, talented forward who will cause loads of problems for defences. The thought of a fully-fit Griffiths, Miller and Molyneux in the final third with Rowe breaking forward as well is a genuinely exciting one.
He'll play off the flank or can be utilised up front, got a real eye for goal and plenty of energy. Great work by Copps and McSheffrey.
Not to mention Jon Taylor who I honestly think will be one of the best in the division when fit.
This is a great signing, and it’s starting to get exciting.
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Crikey. It's only Tuesday and we've signed two players!
Is this the attacking player who we needed to fill Martin's boots? Someone who's prepared to run at the heart of defences and create spaces to shoot!!??
Sounds an exciting prospect and listening to him, he has the desire to score and entertain in the process.
That's three good characters we've signed so perhaps Copps/McSheffreys pulling power is beginning to show.
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Brilliant signing well done Rovers - getting excited about the season, let’s get a decent left back and a lump up front to offer something different and we can have a good crack at this league
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Him and the lad yesterday both actually look pleased and wanted to be here. Most of the signings last year, well…
Exactly this. Looks like they want to move to better themselves and progress there careers as opposed to waiting and seeing if someone else offers more £. As much of a disaster last season was maybe going down a division will help us rebuild and come back stronger
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Christ, that’s one hell of a signing for you guys. I saw him a number of times for Hartlepool and he was easily one of their best, if not their best player almost each time. Got a cracking engine on him, not afraid to get stuck in and knows where the goal is. I genuinely thought he’d end up in League 1 this season.
If signings like this don’t excite you then not much will!!
Well done Donny!
If you want to see non-excitement, just wait for eyeore since-1969 to post about this signing.
Love that - he won’t be on here because it’s positivity at the moment - the forum is not a gloomy place lol
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Great signing on the face of it. We aren't far off now imo and it's nice to say that without a loan signing at the club. Get a proper left back and then maybe another centre midfielder and we're sorted imo.
Get rid of Dodoo and Hiwula then maybe a loan of two to put the cherry on top. Although I'd be well happy without any loans. Just keep a group who are committed to the club and who the club will benefit from developing.
Also hope we play really attacking. 442 with Rowe on the left this lad on the right and Reo/Miller up top would be a handful for this league
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Another young player who looks raring to go!
He’s certainly a type of player (looking to go past opponents & shoot “from everywhere really”) that we were crying out for last season.
Who’ll be up next?!
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The difference between these signings and those this time last year is that this lot have recognisable quality and enthusiasm for the club whereas it was rather difficult to see what Wellens perceived in his recruits. You can imagine that there was rather more competition for these latest batch.
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Pools fan on Twitter..... How the hell is this a step up from Hartlepool???!!
Looks a very good player, pleased with this.
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A goal scoring winger is exactly what we needed. Good vibes are back!
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Molyneux? I'll believe it when I'm sat in it.
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Seems to be a good signing.
Really looking forward to seeing the various versions of his name that will pop up on here. ;)
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Shows that despite what many say, in this league we do have pulling power both financially and footballing wise. 2 good signings so far.
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Pools fan on Twitter..... How the hell is this a step up from Hartlepool???!!
Looks a very good player, pleased with this.
Well for one thing Donny's not a shit tip in the arse hole of nowhere.
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Found myself reading the Hartlepool forum when Bogle signed and they were all raving about this lad.
Great signing. I still think another striker, winger and left back then we are there. Oh and ship Hiwula and Dodoo out.
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The Netto brigade will have to exchange their colours for proper red and white!!
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Really impressed with the signings so far, all a great age, all enthusiastic, all ambitious, all impressed by the stadium & training facilities, & all want to be here. All adds up to a big swing in mentality gearing up to next season. Well done all concerned.
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Gavin Baldwin shops at M&S
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Now then. Young, hungry players on the rise? Similarities between them indicating research is going into a style of play? Could this be... A good transfer policy in action? Who's to say?
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take a look at some of his goals:
https://twitter.com/lukemolyneux3
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Really impressed with the signings so far, all a great age, all enthusiastic, all ambitious, all impressed by the stadium & training facilities, & all want to be here. All adds up to a big swing in mentality gearing up to next season. Well done all concerned.
Dead right. This is one of the factors that Copps talked about. Talking up who we are and being proud of it. Making the place, the stadium and the training ground feel like a step up and feel like ones where players have to be on top of their game all the time.
You could also see that with Leigh Bromby at Huddersfield who said they had to stop the inferiority complex compared to Leeds and make Huddersfield stand out on their own two feet. They feel they are now attracting players who they may not have considered a couple of seasons ago. Same for their academy set ups. Of course, moneys been invested but it's also a mentality that people will invest in.
I think Copps has done his groundwork and instilling the values and standards we all hold dear.
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Agree with above. Also a good sign we are signing top scorers/best players from teams in this division rather than taking older players on bigger money dropping down from the division above. Thats a trap we could easily have fallen into just because we could afford names we might have heard of a bit more.
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Im guessing Copps had a big part in this signing with his North East connections.
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Pools fan on Twitter..... How the hell is this a step up from Hartlepool???!!
Looks a very good player, pleased with this.
since Hartlepool lost that penalty shoot out in the mickey mouse cup to Rotherham they have fallen off a cliff form wise (Harrogate's form started falling off the same cliff much earlier in the season)
and as we know they sacked their (XRovers player) manager ... - WHO AFTER THE ROTHERHAM DEFEAT WAS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD- EVEN THINK HE GOT A MANAGER OF THE MONTH AWARD THEN-- they look like they are going to become the Hartlepool we all knew in the '60s persistenly applied for re-election g0d knows how many times
this is the type of player The "Barnsley Vultures" of yesterday would snap up out of the "Rovers nest" thankfully they are brassic (AND CAN'T GET HOLD OF THE GROUND AROUND OAKWELL) -SHAME :thumbsup:
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I think credit to McSheffrey too who is courting players by going to meet them and sell DRFC. Fergie Jnr was one who also went out of his way to make players feel wanted.
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He played 90mins against us for Sunderland u21s in the Football League Trophy at the Keepmoat in October 2017. We won 1-0 thanks to a rare Ben Khemis goal in the second half.
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BFYP:
2 good signings so far.
Minor correction, I make that 3 good signings so far.
Add to those the hoped-for return of Taylor, Close & Anderson (all of whom seem like new signings to me) and there is definitely a better ‘feel’ about our prospects this coming season.
It would be nice to add Rowe and Agard to the returnees asap, also.
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I hope we can get those three back, but it looks suspicious on Close, while Taylor has been through the wringer these last 18 months. Anderson was in the photos yesterday back at training. Hope he can pick up his better form again when he comes back.
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take a look at some of his goals:
https://twitter.com/lukemolyneux3
No disrespect to the new lad but I have seen these “look at his videos” posts before.
I remember the young lad we got from Man City (can’t remember his name though) and his videos showed some fantastic passes and goals.
I never saw anything similar when he played for us.
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I hope we can get those three back, but it looks suspicious on Close, while Taylor has been through the wringer these last 18 months. Anderson was in the photos yesterday back at training. Hope he can pick up his better form again when he comes back.
If he’s fully fit and no problem with his foot we will see him back at his best.
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Rodney Kongolo.
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Pools fan on Twitter..... How the hell is this a step up from Hartlepool???!!
Looks a very good player, pleased with this.
I looked on their forum too. How do they not understand to someone in their 20's we are a much bigger club than Hartlepool. To someone that age all they'll know is we've been a Championship/League One team, where as they're a League Two/Non League team. We'll be able to pay more than them too and will have higher expectations this coming season than them.
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Pools fan on Twitter..... How the hell is this a step up from Hartlepool???!!
Looks a very good player, pleased with this.
There’s a reason why their inhabitants hung a monkey
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Been busy this was a guy I meant to put on this morning as someone to sign.A great signing, again improvement is possible with his age etc.
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Im waiting for Jeff Stelling to say unbelievable signing for Donny.
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It looks like quite a bit of forethought and planning has gone into these three signings, the impression i get is that the management team have decided that they want to play an expansive, game with quicker, fitter players who look like they have everything in front of them and want to prove their mettle.
This has a lot of the hallmarks of someone who is thoughtful, analytical, reads the game well and is experienced in the day to day rigors of the players who play the game at this level and above.
i wonder who that could be?
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I hope we can get those three back, but it looks suspicious on Close, while Taylor has been through the wringer these last 18 months. Anderson was in the photos yesterday back at training. Hope he can pick up his better form again when he comes back.
Close was on the training pics too from yesterday
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If we can run the legs off teams, then we earn the right to play more expansive, with freedom and skill.
McSheffrey hinted he wants to play this way but didn't have sufficient tools to do it.
This coming season could be a breath of fresh air and how we need it!
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I hope we can get those three back, but it looks suspicious on Close, while Taylor has been through the wringer these last 18 months. Anderson was in the photos yesterday back at training. Hope he can pick up his better form again when he comes back.
Close was on the training pics too from yesterday
Lets hope he turned in today ok and gets a full pre season into his legs, will be like a new and shrewd signing for us, if he can create and get the new lads firing we can hit the ground running.
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That's a cracking signing , I'd have loved this lad at Oakwell .
Very very good player .
Well done Rovers .
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Have to agree with everyone, Luke looks a terrific signing for us, I know we've all seen video clips galore showing the talents of new signings, and some of them have been a real disappointment.
But there's just something about Luke's goals that make me think this time maybe we have got our hands on
someone who can "Bend It Like Beckham". Excited over the new signings, well done GMc, Copps and his team, and welcome to Donny Luke.
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Pools fan on Twitter..... How the hell is this a step up from Hartlepool???!!
Looks a very good player, pleased with this.
Well for one thing Donny's not a shit tip in the arse hole of nowhere.
Well with all due respect to Hartlepool we are potentially a much bigger club than they are even though we will be in the same league as them this season.
Pools have never played in the 2nd tier and is a much smaller town than Doncaster. They have a loyal but relatively small fan base. They live in the shadow of Middlesbrough and will always struggle to build a large fan base unless Boro nose dive to league 2 and Pools get to the Championship and that remained the case for several years.
Think that Hartlepool supporter is either deluded or bitter.
Or both.
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If we can run the legs off teams, then we earn the right to play more expansive, with freedom and skill.
McSheffrey hinted he wants to play this way but didn't have sufficient tools to do it.
This coming season could be a breath of fresh air and how we need it!
This.
McSheffrey has taken a lot of stick for the way we played and the results we got when he really hadn’t had the chance to put his stamp on it. When you listened to him it was clear that he didn’t want us to play how we did for much of his time in charge, but needs must and circumstances were against him and us.
We carried a load of injuries, the January window is not the time to do the level of business we needed and to an extent we just had to get by with a very unbalanced / inadequate squad.
So far we’ve recruited players that bring a much needed combination of intensity and end product and I think that gives an insight into how we’d actually like to play.
Personally I think this squad still needs a left back and a physical presence in both central midfield and attack. If we get those I feel we have a balanced squad with options to mix it, and we can probably afford to offload Dodoo and Hiwula in that case.
Whilst the job certainly isn’t done yet in terms of squad building, I’m delighted with the business we’ve done so far and if we can get our remaining targets in sooner rather than later then we can look to a pre-season of actually preparing and shaping the team, rather than scrambling around in the market as we so often have.
Props to the club here. The statement said we wanted to bounce back decisively, the (much maligned) appointment of Copps has seen change and restructuring, and he and McSheffrey have so far done a great job of selling the club to the targets we’ve secured. It gives us something to feel hopeful about. But we need to stay grounded as this isn’t going to be an easy league at all and we’ll still be competing with some teams with big resources.
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At the Pools he played as their number 10.
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take a look at some of his goals:
https://twitter.com/lukemolyneux3
No disrespect to the new lad but I have seen these “look at his videos” posts before.
I remember the young lad we got from Man City (can’t remember his name though) and his videos showed some fantastic passes and goals.
I never saw anything similar when he played for us.
Key difference is that Kongolo’s highlights reel was in junior games, these goals are against teams we’re going to be playing next season. I’d never heard of Molyneux until today but he looks like a brilliant signing and one to really get the crowd on their feet.
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If we can run the legs off teams, then we earn the right to play more expansive, with freedom and skill.
McSheffrey hinted he wants to play this way but didn't have sufficient tools to do it.
This coming season could be a breath of fresh air and how we need it!
This.
McSheffrey has taken a lot of stick for the way we played and the results we got when he really hadn’t had the chance to put his stamp on it. When you listened to him it was clear that he didn’t want us to play how we did for much of his time in charge, but needs must and circumstances were against him and us.
We carried a load of injuries, the January window is not the time to do the level of business we needed and to an extent we just had to get by with a very unbalanced / inadequate squad.
So far we’ve recruited players that bring a much needed combination of intensity and end product and I think that gives an insight into how we’d actually like to play.
Personally I think this squad still needs a left back and a physical presence in both central midfield and attack. If we get those I feel we have a balanced squad with options to mix it, and we can probably afford to offload Dodoo and Hiwula in that case.
Whilst the job certainly isn’t done yet in terms of squad building, I’m delighted with the business we’ve done so far and if we can get our remaining targets in sooner rather than later then we can look to a pre-season of actually preparing and shaping the team, rather than scrambling around in the market as we so often have.
Props to the club here. The statement said we wanted to bounce back, the appointment of Copps has seen change and restructuring, and he and McSheffrey have so far done a great job of selling the club to the targets we’ve secured. It gives us something to feel hopeful about. But we need to stay grounded as this isn’t going to be an easy league at all and we’ll still be competing with some teams with big resources.
Couldn’t have put it better Jonathan. 100% bang on with that post.
Fact is we are a big fish in a relatively small pond in League 2 next season.
Only Bradford City could be considered a bigger club imo
We are on par with Swindon Town who get decent gates. They averaged about 8,000 last season and didn’t get promoted.
Stockport are on a resurgence at present and if they are up there next season fighting for promotion they will be getting 8,000+ gates.
We will need to be top 3 consistently i suspect to ave 7,000 + gates next season
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My Poolie mate sent me this
“Now Yorkie, we all thought Mols was off to Peterborough. I saw him make his debut for Sunderland out wide against Wolves as a late sub. Beat his man on a couple of occasions. Was hit and miss under Dave Challinor who played him behind the front man and it wasn't really his game. Came into his own under Graeme Lee who played him out wide and cuts in from the wing. Ended up as our leading goal scorer with I think eleven goals. Also won player of the year award but personally he would have been my third choice.
On the down side he is bit of a one trick pony coming in from the left and putting in a curling shot in which tended end up in the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers arms. Mind when he got it right some wonderful goals. He won our goal of the season v Harrogate away. Well worth a look on You tube.
Also had a tendency to drift in and out of games”
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Jonathan:
So far we’ve recruited players that bring a much needed combination of intensity and end product and I think that gives an insight into how we’d actually like to play.
Personally I think this squad still needs a left back and a physical presence in both central midfield and attack. If we get those I feel we have a balanced squad with options to mix it, and we can probably afford to offload Dodoo and Hiwula in that case.
Just to add an air of caution, Jon, I would add ‘on paper’ after the first that in the first para.
Agree wholeheartedly on your thoughts for the remaining squad building requirements. How we get a good, solid defensive midfielder in I don’t know, as GM has already gone on record to say they are rare commodities and, therefore, come at a price (which may be beyond us).
It’s heartening to see the improvement in both quality of player selected and the speedy and efficient way in which we’ve done our business to date. Fingers crossed, this continues and, whilst they’re still crossed, let’s hope all the injured lads have no set-backs.
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Must say - the pitch looks well in that photo behind LM
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Just been in La Manga week before last, had a few beers there with Wayne and Harrison Biggins( he was on water !! ) - now I understand why he was so content and pleased about the move - about time we had some hope again eh !
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The best way for the club and the two players Dodoo and Hiwula to get on with their lives is to forget what happened last season, get fit and fired up, and make it difficult for the two new lads to take their place.
That way other clubs will become interested, they will get their careers back on track, and will give our manager a decision to make when picking the team.
While they are still here they are part of the playing staff, it is not a witch hunt, and it is a new season the last one is history.
We had enough of those silly games last season, that soured the whole club for months, if they show in training, are fit to play, and in the managers opinion are the best players in form then they should be included in the team,and the other players on the books need to show they are even better and should play only if showing that, not because of who they are.
The strikers shirts are there at the moment for four players to compete for, last year is over, gone, done with, and any player contracted has a shirt to play for if the manager chooses him,
until they move on.
While here we should be looking for a team spirit, not carrying on the splits in the group there was last season and the one before.
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Both have 12 months left. Hope we are not holding out for a fee for them.
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Jonathan:
So far we’ve recruited players that bring a much needed combination of intensity and end product and I think that gives an insight into how we’d actually like to play.
Personally I think this squad still needs a left back and a physical presence in both central midfield and attack. If we get those I feel we have a balanced squad with options to mix it, and we can probably afford to offload Dodoo and Hiwula in that case.
Just to add an air of caution, Jon, I would add ‘on paper’ after the first that in the first para.
Agree wholeheartedly on your thoughts for the remaining squad building requirements. How we get a good, solid defensive midfielder in I don’t know, as GM has already gone on record to say they are rare commodities and, therefore, come at a price (which may be beyond us).
It’s heartening to see the improvement in both quality of player selected and the speedy and efficient way in which we’ve done our business to date. Fingers crossed, this continues and, whilst they’re still crossed, let’s hope all the injured lads have no set-backs.
Alan we have got Adam Clayton. While he is quite a creative player he also can tackle, has good positional sense, can read the game, loads of experience. He will be able to play that holding role in centre midfield.
The priority now for me is a left back. Also a target man up front would be next priority.
Just some one who can play with his back to the goal and can hold the ball.
None of Griffiths, Miller, Hiwula, Dodoo or Agard are of that ilk. In fact Hiwula is not a striker he is a winger really. Well he is supposed to be one. If he stays then he has serious competition for a wide birth with Taylor and Molyneux and will need to get his finger out or he won’t see much or any playing time at all.
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I really don’t want to see Dodoo or Hiwula in our shirt again. They’ve had their chance and weren’t up to it. If they play for us again I’ll give them my support and hope they’ve improved mentally and physically. But I’d rather offload.
Agard I would like to see given a season as I haven’t seen him much. He’s barely played yet his record suggests he should be OK in Tier 4.
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I know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines.
I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this.
Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height.
When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things.
With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles.
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I know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines.
I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this.
Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height.
When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things.
With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles.
Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costly.
Im liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.
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That’s fine, DBR, but when there’s no space to run into, the attack stalls. Don’t forget, we’re now in L2, not L1, and we need to cover all bases,if at all possible. The opposition defending could well be a little more ‘agricultural’ and sometimes that big target man occupies the thoughts of big centre backs.
We have to be able to ring the changes, otherwise we’ll be sussed out and, especially with the better organised teams, neutralised. How many times, when we’re being pressed, does the ball get pumped to relieve the pressure? When that happens, it’s perhaps one headed flick on and the runners are in!
Eggs need to be in several baskets, not one.
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Now THIS is a good signing! When we played Hartlepool in the Papa Johns semi final, this fella looked a class above. Very surprised RUFC didnt look at him.
A genuine statement of intent from Donny.
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It's good too that the signings have come as a surprise. Business conducted in a business like manner, no leaks or even hints they were on our radar
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One slightly surprising thing is that we’ve signed a player who’s best position is very likely to be the same as Jon Taylor’s best position.
I think LM is an ok player but if this is the be the big winger signing of the summer I’d have preferred a left sided player that has a greater creative output than LM.
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I get the feeling the front players or should I say more attacking players will change positions constantly throughout the game, like they used to under SOD which will create the space for players to run into. It really has that feel about it
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One slightly surprising thing is that we’ve signed a player who’s best position is very likely to be the same as Jon Taylor’s best position.
I think LM is an ok player but if this is the be the big winger signing of the summer I’d have preferred a left sided player that has a greater creative output than LM.
Bit different though? Taylor gets to byline and gets very little off in terms of shots. This lad seems to be only about coming in from the right to shoot isn’t he?
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One slightly surprising thing is that we’ve signed a player who’s best position is very likely to be the same as Jon Taylor’s best position.
I think LM is an ok player but if this is the be the big winger signing of the summer I’d have preferred a left sided player that has a greater creative output than LM.
Bit different though? Taylor gets to byline and gets very little off in terms of shots. This lad seems to be only about coming in from the right to shoot isn’t he?
They are different players stylistically. They just want to play in the same area.
A little comparison…
2020-21 in L1
Jon Taylor-
xG per 90mins- 0.3
xAssists (non set piece) per 90mins- 0.11
2021-22 L2
Luke Moly-
xG per 90mins- 0.2
xAssists (non set piece) per 90mins- 0.13
xG being how many goals that player would be expected to score given the locations of the shots they had.
xA being the amount of assists they were expected to have given the the chances they created for others.
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I think we can discard Taylor’s stats to a degree, as he’s had 3 ops since he last played. Who knows what he’ll be like this season!
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One slightly surprising thing is that we’ve signed a player who’s best position is very likely to be the same as Jon Taylor’s best position.
I think LM is an ok player but if this is the be the big winger signing of the summer I’d have preferred a left sided player that has a greater creative output than LM.
Rowe?
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One slightly surprising thing is that we’ve signed a player who’s best position is very likely to be the same as Jon Taylor’s best position.
I think LM is an ok player but if this is the be the big winger signing of the summer I’d have preferred a left sided player that has a greater creative output than LM.
Rowe?
Low creative output.
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I know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines.
I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this.
Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height.
When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things.
With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles.
Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costly
Im liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.
We need a plan A & B though ideally. We still played good football when Marquis was here.
I don’t mean we need a 6ft 3in centre forward just someone who can hold the ball up and we can keep possession.
There is more than one way of playing football of course but at the end of the day whatever way GM wants to play it is a simple game really which at times is made far too complicated.
Pass and move, pass and move pass and move, shoot. Just like that. Simples ;)
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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
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I know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines.
I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this.
Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height.
When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things.
With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles.
Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costly
Im liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.
We need a plan A & B though ideally. We still played good football when Marquis was here.
I don’t mean we need a 6ft 3in centre forward just someone who can hold the ball up and we can keep possession.
There is more than one way of playing football of course but at the end of the day whatever way GM wants to play it is a simple game really which at times is made far too complicated.
Pass and move, pass and move pass and move, shoot. Just like that. Simples ;)
As effective as Miller may be, I’ve seen people say he needs someone to play off. McSheffrey said in his interview he can play off a big man, which I was thought was interesting as we don’t have one yet.
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I know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines.
I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this.
Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height.
When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things.
With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles.
Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costly
Im liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.
We need a plan A & B though ideally. We still played good football when Marquis was here.
I don’t mean we need a 6ft 3in centre forward just someone who can hold the ball up and we can keep possession.
There is more than one way of playing football of course but at the end of the day whatever way GM wants to play it is a simple game really which at times is made far too complicated.
Pass and move, pass and move pass and move, shoot. Just like that. Simples ;)
As effective as Miller may be, I’ve seen people say he needs someone to play off. McSheffrey said in his interview he can play off a big man, which I was thought was interesting as we don’t have one yet.
Isn't Dodoo one of the best target men around? ;)
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Sorry if posted already, but Jeff Stelling certainly rated him!
@JeffStelling
Love @LukeMolyneux3. Been brilliant for us. But I have to be honest. Gutted he has left for another league 2 side who had attendances not far off us last season. Feel he is League One or even Championship level. Just my view. No disrespect meant to Donny.
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Sorry if posted already, but Jeff Stelling certainly rated him!
@JeffStelling
Love @LukeMolyneux3. Been brilliant for us. But I have to be honest. Gutted he has left for another league 2 side who had attendances not far off us last season. Feel he is League One or even Championship level. Just my view. No disrespect meant to Donny.
Only the extra 2000 average last season in our worst season in decades but anyway no players joining based on attendances, he's joining because we have more chance of promotion and can pay him more than them.
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Sorry if posted already, but Jeff Stelling certainly rated him!
@JeffStelling
Love @LukeMolyneux3. Been brilliant for us. But I have to be honest. Gutted he has left for another league 2 side who had attendances not far off us last season. Feel he is League One or even Championship level. Just my view. No disrespect meant to Donny.
Given every Saturday afternoon he’s on telly I’m not sure he’s seen that much of him to be honest
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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team.
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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team.
Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.
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I know we tend to resort to thinking we need a back to goal player who can hold the ball up, but we don't necessarily need that sort of forward if we play on the deck football through the lines.
I'm sure McSheffrey/Copps/Eyre have thought long and hard about this.
Sometimes, when all else fails we look to a big man, so maybe as a plan b but we could be looking at a fluid front line where much of the success comes facing goal. If deliveries are on the money then the positioning , runs and anticipation make up for lack of height.
When we look back at our most recent good spell with Whiteman dictating play, many of our goals were scored through creating overloads with players running onto things.
With Miller, Molyneux, Griffiths, Agard, Taylor, Rowe and even Barlow in the mix, they could be attacking the box from all angles.
Agree with your synopsis. I big hold up player can become a negative if it leads the team to trying to play to that strength all the time, Unless this player is going to someone like Smith at Rotherham who can play the back to gaol position but also has enough about him to be able to adapt in his play, very rare at out level and costly
Im liking the fact we're buying into the quick, smart and positive type of forward who can run at a defence, commit them, get around the back and distribute or run onto forward balls to create opportunities, much better to watch and if worked well will excite the fans enough to want to watch this type of football.
We need a plan A & B though ideally. We still played good football when Marquis was here.
I don’t mean we need a 6ft 3in centre forward just someone who can hold the ball up and we can keep possession.
There is more than one way of playing football of course but at the end of the day whatever way GM wants to play it is a simple game really which at times is made far too complicated.
Pass and move, pass and move pass and move, shoot. Just like that. Simples ;)
As effective as Miller may be, I’ve seen people say he needs someone to play off. McSheffrey said in his interview he can play off a big man, which I was thought was interesting as we don’t have one yet.
Isn't Dodoo one of the best target men around? ;)
The dodo was a flightless bird after all!
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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team.
Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.
But we don’t have a left back?
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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team.
Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.
But we don’t have a left back?
I'm not saying that we shouldn't bring one in, I'm saying adding creativity is more important for this team then a left back right now but both are needed.
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Thought Tommy was our left sided player
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My Poolie mate sent me this
“Now Yorkie, we all thought Mols was off to Peterborough. I saw him make his debut for Sunderland out wide against Wolves as a late sub. Beat his man on a couple of occasions. Was hit and miss under Dave Challinor who played him behind the front man and it wasn't really his game. Came into his own under Graeme Lee who played him out wide and cuts in from the wing. Ended up as our leading goal scorer with I think eleven goals. Also won player of the year award but personally he would have been my third choice.
On the down side he is bit of a one trick pony coming in from the left and putting in a curling shot in which tended end up in the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers arms. Mind when he got it right some wonderful goals. He won our goal of the season v Harrogate away. Well worth a look on You tube.
Also had a tendency to drift in and out of games”
How often did he watch him,He cuts in from the right does'nt he?
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Arjen Robben was a one-trick pony but it served him pretty well in his career. Every defender knew what he would do but few stopped him every time.
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Thought Tommy was our left sided player
He’s probably seen as a central midfielder. Left side of a midfield three.
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Re Hiwula, I think he may come good - I never saw a player that did not try in him, in fact after being "dropped" for a period, he was really aggressive in tracking players - his contribution going forward was not great, and a lot of stuff he tried never worked. He along with Dodoo took the brunt of all fans anger, and this should have been dealt out a bit more evenly over the team - it was very poor across the board, front to back. The way he was sold to us as fans didn't help him though.
I also think their actions show they do/did care -As fans when you boo, or shout whatever, are you not looking for a reaction. People will react in different ways, some will puff out their chest and fight fire with fire (cupping ears) some will wilt with the pressure.
New season and a clean slate for all, but performances do have to be better from day one.
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Not watched him play for Pools,I wished I had last season especially when Spike was their Gaffa,but going on the Pool fans,opinions on here and looking at videos,he looks a like a Mcindoe type of player but a more Right sided attacking midfielder.Looks like it could be a shrewd signing,well done those involved.
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My Poolie mate sent me this
“Now Yorkie, we all thought Mols was off to Peterborough. I saw him make his debut for Sunderland out wide against Wolves as a late sub. Beat his man on a couple of occasions. Was hit and miss under Dave Challinor who played him behind the front man and it wasn't really his game. Came into his own under Graeme Lee who played him out wide and cuts in from the wing. Ended up as our leading goal scorer with I think eleven goals. Also won player of the year award but personally he would have been my third choice.
On the down side he is bit of a one trick pony coming in from the left and putting in a curling shot in which tended end up in the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers arms. Mind when he got it right some wonderful goals. He won our goal of the season v Harrogate away. Well worth a look on You tube.
Also had a tendency to drift in and out of games”
How often did he watch him,He cuts in from the right does'nt he?
Maybe a typo he watches them home and away
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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team.
Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.
But we don’t have a left back?
I'm not saying that we shouldn't bring one in, I'm saying adding creativity is more important for this team then a left back right now but both are needed.
Disagree Donny O. We desperately need a good solid left back.
We will not get promoted if we concede goals for fun like last season.
We would need to score 95 if we concede even 65
Good teams are frugal defensively I don’t want us to concede more than 50 this season.
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My Poolie mate sent me this
“Now Yorkie, we all thought Mols was off to Peterborough. I saw him make his debut for Sunderland out wide against Wolves as a late sub. Beat his man on a couple of occasions. Was hit and miss under Dave Challinor who played him behind the front man and it wasn't really his game. Came into his own under Graeme Lee who played him out wide and cuts in from the wing. Ended up as our leading goal scorer with I think eleven goals. Also won player of the year award but personally he would have been my third choice.
On the down side he is bit of a one trick pony coming in from the left and putting in a curling shot in which tended end up in the middle of the goal and straight into the keepers arms. Mind when he got it right some wonderful goals. He won our goal of the season v Harrogate away. Well worth a look on You tube.
Also had a tendency to drift in and out of games”
How often did he watch him,He cuts in from the right does'nt he?
Maybe a typo he watches them home and away
Will be then,did'nt know if it was or if I'd miss interpreted how he plays. :thumbsup:
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Ash Hunter's probably more what were after, of available free agents. Left wing with decent creativity numbers.
I agree. He would be brilliant on the left and I suggested him to Copps. We really do need more creativity in the team.
Someone with creativity on that left is probably our most important signing at this moment in time, ahead of a left back.
But we don’t have a left back?
I'm not saying that we shouldn't bring one in, I'm saying adding creativity is more important for this team then a left back right now but both are needed.
Disagree Donny O. We desperately need a good solid left back.
We will not get promoted if we concede goals for fun like last season.
We would need to score 95 if we concede even 65
Good teams are frugal defensively I don’t want us to concede more than 50 this season.
I agree with this. Bit surprised that you don't think we need to replace Mitchell in goal?
A good solid keeper would tighten everything up at the back straight away.
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All about opinions but I think we need to stop things at source so for me and many, and GM, a left back is highly desirable. Less so Mitchell who's got more positives than negatives.
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Apart from that clanger on debut v Rotherham what has Mitchell done wrong?
Seriously please someone tell me.
He had a crap defence in front of him last season and saved us from total humiliation on several occasions if my memory hasn’t gone completely.
He isn’t the best keeper we have ever had but he is a very decent one.
He couldn’t get in the Hartlepool team because the had a very very good keeper who kept him out.
I just don’t get it. Who do some of you expect us to have in goal right now.
Any Neil Sullivan’s out there please put you hand up now so GM can see you.
We are fine in the keeper Dept and we now have a very experienced coach to help improve him further.
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Apart from that clanger on debut v Rotherham what has Mitchell done wrong?
Seriously please someone tell me.
He had a crap defence in front of him last season and saved us from total humiliation on several occasions if my memory hasn’t gone completely.
He isn’t the best keeper we have ever had but he is a very decent one.
He couldn’t get in the Hartlepool team because the had a very very good keeper who kept him out.
I just don’t get it. Who do some of you expect us to have in goal right now.
Any Neil Sullivan’s out there please put you hand up now so GM can see you.
We are fine in the keeper Dept and we now have a very experienced coach to help improve him further.
When he signed I highlighted his errors leading to goals numbers at Northampton were 0.24/90mins. For us that figure was 0.25/90mins. That’s too high.
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I think people's views are possibly skewed by his fairly decent record of saving penalties.
Otherwise I would say he's fairly steady with a proneness to making a rick. A bit like Dahlberg.
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He’s as good a keeper that we have actually owned for some considerable time.
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He’s as good a keeper that we have actually owned for some considerable time.
I would agree he's as good as Louis Jones and that's the problem. He was supposed to be better and he isn't.
A good keeper can save you 20 points a season, apparently.
He cost us plenty. Oxford away, Gillingham at home, Shrewsbury away, Rotherham at home
Not good enough. Maybe the new coach can add something to his game. Wouldn't surprise me if Jones got another run in the side.
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Dahlberg was decent at saving penalties, I’m impressed with Mitchell but need to see what his distribution is like once we have players who actually make runs.
If we get a target man I hope we have someone who can launch a throw in
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He’s as good a keeper that we have actually owned for some considerable time.
I would agree he's as good as Louis Jones and that's the problem. He was supposed to be better and he isn't.
A good keeper can save you 20 points a season, apparently.
He cost us plenty. Oxford away, Gillingham at home, Shrewsbury away, Rotherham at home
Not good enough. Maybe the new coach can add something to his game. Wouldn't surprise me if Jones got another run in the side.
Where have you got the 20pts a season number from?
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Just noticed Danny Hylton has joined Northampton, reckon he would have been an excellent target man for us.
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He’s as good a keeper that we have actually owned for some considerable time.
I would agree he's as good as Louis Jones and that's the problem. He was supposed to be better and he isn't.
A good keeper can save you 20 points a season, apparently.
He cost us plenty. Oxford away, Gillingham at home, Shrewsbury away, Rotherham at home
Not good enough. Maybe the new coach can add something to his game. Wouldn't surprise me if Jones got another run in the side.
Goalkeepers are only as good as the defence in front of them. We had a very poor defence last season.
For every so called mistake ( most of which was the poor defending ) he made at least 10 extremely good saves.
If our defence is organised then we will see a very decent keeper behind them this season.
He is the best we have had since Deing.
He is way better than Jones, I can’t see how anyone can say he is not. Having said that Jones was having to try and get experience in a team which defensively was a shambles last season. That was very difficult for a young keeper trying to make his way in the game and establish himself as no1 keeper at the club.
Last season and 2nd half of the previous one set Jones back big time.
Mitchell is older and more experienced and up is much more assertive in the 6yd box. Much better keeper at the present time imo.
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We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.
We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount.
We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all.
Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.
Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.
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We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.
We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount.
We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all.
Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.
Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.
That’s 95-100 goals you think we’ll score without counting Dodoo chipping in. If that happens we won’t be in and around the automatic promotion areas, we’ll walk the league.
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We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.
We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount.
We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all.
Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.
Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.
Like your optimism.
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For me Mitchell is only marginally better than Jones, commands the area better & the six yard box. His catching & distribution leave a lot to be desired, hopefully that will improve with the new keeper coach.
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His distribution was affected by the fact nobody was moving for him
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Based on what I've seen of Jones and Mitchell, I'm of the view that neither are of the standard required to be our first choice keeper.
A goalkeeper should be a priority this transfer window.
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We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.
We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount.
We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all.
Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.
Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.
Like your optimism.
In the last 40 years only one player has scored more than 20 football league goals in a season for us. I doubt very much we are going to have two players in the same season do that for us next season.
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His distribution was affected by the fact nobody was moving for him
Partly, he also kicked the ball out of play more often than not
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Apart from that clanger on debut v Rotherham what has Mitchell done wrong?
Seriously please someone tell me.
He had a crap defence in front of him last season and saved us from total humiliation on several occasions if my memory hasn’t gone completely.
He isn’t the best keeper we have ever had but he is a very decent one.
He couldn’t get in the Hartlepool team because the had a very very good keeper who kept him out.
I just don’t get it. Who do some of you expect us to have in goal right now.
Any Neil Sullivan’s out there please put you hand up now so GM can see you.
We are fine in the keeper Dept and we now have a very experienced coach to help improve him further.
When he signed I highlighted his errors leading to goals numbers at Northampton were 0.24/90mins. For us that figure was 0.25/90mins. That’s too high.
Would be interested to see what the stats were for other keepers in the League and compare if you have these available?. I should imagine when your defence and Keeper are under the cosh for most of the game his stats are going to look worse than Wigan's or Rotherham's keeper especially. What were Gary Woods errors leading to goals stats the year he won the league?
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I think people are now realising how important Marquis was to us. He's never been replaced, and I don't think he ever will be. However, I do believe we're making great steps to improve our attacking strengths.
My worry is the defence. I really don't think we're very good in that department, even for League 2. Unless Tom can regain the form he had before his injuries, then we don't have one single outstanding defender.
Now that we're strengthening well in other areas, I'd be inclined to use one of the loan spots to bring in a proven, solid CB in the mould of Andy Butler and Paul Downing.
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Good signing that. Hope he hits the ground running
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He’s as good a keeper that we have actually owned for some considerable time.
I would agree he's as good as Louis Jones and that's the problem. He was supposed to be better and he isn't.
A good keeper can save you 20 points a season, apparently.
He cost us plenty. Oxford away, Gillingham at home, Shrewsbury away, Rotherham at home
Not good enough. Maybe the new coach can add something to his game. Wouldn't surprise me if Jones got another run in the side.
Where have you got the 20pts a season number from?
Well it could be 5, 10,15, 20, 25, 30
Take your pick. Depends how good he is doesn’t it. I just picked the number 20 because it is a significant no of points over 46 games.
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We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.
We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount.
We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all.
Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.
Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.
If you think SCK that all those players are going to score 20, 15, 10 goals each then you are living in fantasy land.
If we score 75/80 goals next season we should finish top 3 assuming we don’t concede more than around 50 goals.
You are estimating we are going to score around 90/100 goals. If our defence is anywhere near decent we will be Champions 100% we will probably get 95 points possibly more.
I hope you are correct but even I think scoring that many is more than wishful thinking.
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I think people are now realising how important Marquis was to us. He's never been replaced, and I don't think he ever will be. However, I do believe we're making great steps to improve our attacking strengths.
My worry is the defence. I really don't think we're very good in that department, even for League 2. Unless Tom can regain the form he had before his injuries, then we don't have one single outstanding defender.
Now that we're strengthening well in other areas, I'd be inclined to use one of the loan spots to bring in a proven, solid CB in the mould of Andy Butler and Paul Downing.
Don’t rate Olowu? Add an experienced LB to his side and the defence looks good to me.
We are dropping a division as well don’t forget. More long balls to defend will suit Tom more.
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We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.
We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount.
We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all.
Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.
Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.
If you think SCK that all those players are going to score 20, 15, 10 goals each then you are living in fantasy land.
If we score 75/80 goals next season we should finish top 3 assuming we don’t concede more than around 50 goals.
You are estimating we are going to score around 90/100 goals. If our defence is anywhere near decent we will be Champions 100% we will probably get 95 points possibly more.
I hope you are correct but even I think scoring that many is more than wishful thinking.
I just think everything will click for us. I think both strikers we have will score goals with the right service. We have Molyneux, Rowe and I think Biggins will score goals. We need more additions and to tighten up at the back. We will see anyway.
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We need a recognised defensive midfielder in front of the defence and that improves the defence by not adding anything to it. But, before that, we still need the left back sorting out.
Midfield was a big problem last season, at both ends of the pitch. We couldn’t defend crosses, but neither could we stop the crosses at source.
It appears a dm is not a priority of GM, so the midfield, as a collective, will have to get back to protect, as well as be creative at the other end.
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If the additional striker and wide player we need are going to be loans, then we do need a permanent left back and central midfielder.
We’ve got the numbers so I cannot imagine we will be bringing anyone in, but the centre of our defence has been highly suspect for 18 months. Hope the current four can get their act together and very quickly.
Presume that Dodoo and Hiwula will be leaving.
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Over the last couple of seasons we have looked exceptionally vulnerable when teams have put high balls into our box.
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I like Olowo who has plenty to offer but he does lose position quite often, finding himself in no man's land when the crosses come in.
I hope he can be coached however, Tom Anderson with him should help the communication.
A centre half's lot is no easier in League Two, I'm sure Rob Jones and many others will vouch for that.
We need to defend as a unit and attack as a unit. To be fair, our back line was overloaded on far too many occasions due to the midfield inexperience however, once Clayton and Bostock returned, the balance was so much better.
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Better, but still not good enough!
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It appears a dm is not a priority of GM, so the midfield, as a collective, will have to get back to protect, as well as be creative at the other end.
I listened to the interview Alan and that’s not how I took it. It sounded to me like McSheffrey would very much like to bring in another commanding midfield player but acknowledged that the type of player we need would likely be expensive and we may need to move a couple out to get everyone that we want. In fairness I think that’s a realistic outlook and it’s hard to argue against the fact that the positions we’ve already acquired in (and the pending arrival of a left back) are equally obvious priorities.
I agree we still need another midfield player that can win the ball back, and I’m not giving up hope of us getting one yet.
Moving out the (two obvious) players that we don’t want / that don’t want to be here would certainly be a bonus.
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It appears a dm is not a priority of GM, so the midfield, as a collective, will have to get back to protect, as well as be creative at the other end.
I listened to the interview Alan and that’s not how I took it. It sounded to me like McSheffrey would very much like to bring in another commanding midfield player but acknowledged that the type of player we need would likely be expensive and we may need to move a couple out to get everyone that we want. In fairness I think that’s a realistic outlook and it’s hard to argue against the fact that the positions we’ve already acquired in (and the pending arrival of a left back) are equally obvious priorities.
I agree we still need another midfield player that can win the ball back, and I’m not giving up hope of us getting one yet.
Moving out the (two obvious) players that we don’t want / that don’t want to be here would certainly be a bonus.
If you had to keep one of Hiwula and Dodoo who would you choose?
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It appears a dm is not a priority of GM, so the midfield, as a collective, will have to get back to protect, as well as be creative at the other end.
I listened to the interview Alan and that’s not how I took it. It sounded to me like McSheffrey would very much like to bring in another commanding midfield player but acknowledged that the type of player we need would likely be expensive and we may need to move a couple out to get everyone that we want. In fairness I think that’s a realistic outlook and it’s hard to argue against the fact that the positions we’ve already acquired in (and the pending arrival of a left back) are equally obvious priorities.
I agree we still need another midfield player that can win the ball back, and I’m not giving up hope of us getting one yet.
Moving out the (two obvious) players that we don’t want / that don’t want to be here would certainly be a bonus.
If you had to keep one of Hiwula and Dodoo who would you choose?
Right now Dodoo. Many on here will think I’m insane but I don’t think it’s totally out of the question to think he could have a decent season at this level. And if he was motivated and confident he could be a handful. He scored goals against lesser opposition in the Papa Johns…
Given where we’re at I think it’s best for all parties if both leave and we get to use the money elsewhere. But if they stay they’re in the squad and they should get our full backing. I think they’re both better than we saw last season.
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I think both of them have zero chance of a future here. Too much baggage for them and us. Dodoo allegedly not turning up to pre-season is irrecoverable if true. He's done. Hiwula has a career that tells its own story the last 5 years. Not sure we can be his salvation now.
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We have the same defence, dropping to league two we might concede say sixty odd goals, having conceded 82 goals. Getting a good left back, Tom Anderson back at his best I think you could squeeze that amount down to about the fifty mark. Getting a Close and others back from injury that could bring it down below that mark.
We scored thirty seven goals last season. We’ve added Miller who I think can get us around twenty a season, Molyneux 10-15 a season. Griffiths is capable of twenty goals.Rowe is capable of around ten, Biggins will get just under that amount.
We need another striker that can weigh in with about fifteen. You would want your defence and other midfielder’s not mentioned to contribute about ten between them all.
Get all that happening then you are in and around the automatic promotion area. Plus if you can get Hiwula playing, Dodoo chipping in with a few that could push you into the top spot.
Are they surplus to requirements or can we get them playing?. I personally think both will leave. Dodoo doesn’t feel valued obviously and Hiwula it just hasn’t worked so far.
You reckon 5 players are going to score 70 goals between them?
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Yes, that’s about the size of it.
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We've signed a couple players who are capable of getting 10-15 goals a season. Agard has scored goals before and then we hope Reo can hit it big.
There's reasons to be hopeful we can be higher scoring. Don't need everyone getting 20 goals a season just a well spread out contributions.
If we got the goals Sammy is talking about we'll storm the league getting 100+ points. I think it's something to aim for
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Apart from that clanger on debut v Rotherham what has Mitchell done wrong?
Seriously please someone tell me.
He had a crap defence in front of him last season and saved us from total humiliation on several occasions if my memory hasn’t gone completely.
He isn’t the best keeper we have ever had but he is a very decent one.
He couldn’t get in the Hartlepool team because the had a very very good keeper who kept him out.
I just don’t get it. Who do some of you expect us to have in goal right now.
Any Neil Sullivan’s out there please put you hand up now so GM can see you.
We are fine in the keeper Dept and we now have a very experienced coach to help improve him further.
When he signed I highlighted his errors leading to goals numbers at Northampton were 0.24/90mins. For us that figure was 0.25/90mins. That’s too high.
This season this figure was 0.31 per 90.
Pretty consistent.
The answers were there before we signed him.
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Apart from that clanger on debut v Rotherham what has Mitchell done wrong?
Seriously please someone tell me.
He had a crap defence in front of him last season and saved us from total humiliation on several occasions if my memory hasn’t gone completely.
He isn’t the best keeper we have ever had but he is a very decent one.
He couldn’t get in the Hartlepool team because the had a very very good keeper who kept him out.
I just don’t get it. Who do some of you expect us to have in goal right now.
Any Neil Sullivan’s out there please put you hand up now so GM can see you.
We are fine in the keeper Dept and we now have a very experienced coach to help improve him further.
When he signed I highlighted his errors leading to goals numbers at Northampton were 0.24/90mins. For us that figure was 0.25/90mins. That’s too high.
This season this figure was 0.31 per 90.
Pretty consistent.
The answers were there before we signed him.
What on Earth has that to do with Luke Molyneux?