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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: tyke1962 on June 22, 2022, 08:24:09 pm
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The man is a class act .
https://youtu.be/cgSUpyo86ZI
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Loved his exchange with Kay Burley, he knew exactly what she was insinuating, and she knew that he knew that, but she wouldn’t outright say what she was insinuating
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Love the way he doesn't interrupt even though they are waiting for it, then gives them their arses on a plate in his reply
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Just watched him make Robert Jenrik look stupid… top bloke … he would get my vote if he were in Starners shoes !
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Now why can't we have a prime minister and MPs like this bloke?
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The one with Jenrick
https://twitter.com/Lou_IzIs/status/1539719024652816385
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Every time he talks he comes across as a knowledgeable and passionate representative of his members.
No crap just facts, a very refreshing change from those questioning him.
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Without being contemptuous to Burley, you could hear the contempt in his silences.
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I wonder how these exchanges will be reported in the papers....!
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Mick Lynch's deputy, Eddie Dempsey, was on with posh airhead Julia HB this morning;
https://youtu.be/2Qx1YjppM38
The mismatch is great.
RMT doing well with the media halfwits!
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Almost as if working class people who worked their way up from nowt have more about them than the smooth brained media class, who all went to the same private schools together.
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Mick Lynch's deputy, Eddie Dempsey, was on with posh airhead Julia HB this morning;
https://youtu.be/2Qx1YjppM38
The mismatch is great.
RMT doing well with the media halfwits!
That's because the Tories and the media want to smear and demonise the union and they're not getting their own way - and then they flounder when it happens.
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Looks like this new breed of Union Officials have been well coached in interview techniques, very little heated comment calm and collected but very to the point
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Right then.
When P+O ferries sacked TU members, then looked to replace them with agency staff, the Tories thought it was bad form but did nowt about it.
Now, strikebreaking is a good thing;
https://twitter.com/beisgovuk/status/1539850782111055872
When it comes to the RMT action, clearly something has to be done!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1539688424201920512
As an expert of fire and rehire in the Labour Party, Keith will surely act.
Keith might be too concerned with the splinters in his arse from sitting on the fence to notice.
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Superb, absolutely superb. Genuine socialism in action.
I wish the LP were full of MPs of the same persuasion.
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The level of intelligence of Piers Morgan v Mick Lynch .
Like shelling peas .
https://youtu.be/5r4P3CFfYh0
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Superb, absolutely superb. Genuine socialism in action.
I wish the LP were full of MPs of the same persuasion.
Unfortunately Steve the university system doesn't create the Mick Lynch's of this world .
Most of whom can't fathom why he isn't wearing a rainbow tie and a BLM badge .
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If covid didn't teach you which side the media are on and work for then that should open yours eyes.
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If covid didn't teach you which side the media are on and work for then that should open yours eyes.
Car crash interview with Kay Burley who was aggressive .
She picked the wrong Union leader mind .
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Mick Lynch is on Question Time tonight .
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Superb, absolutely superb. Genuine socialism in action.
I wish the LP were full of MPs of the same persuasion.
Unfortunately Steve the university system doesn't create the Mick Lynch's of this world .
Most of whom can't fathom why he isn't wearing a rainbow tie and a BLM badge .
Ruskin College Oxford used to do, Tyke. How much they'll continue to do so now that they've had to merge with the University of West London, I'm not sure.
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Superb, absolutely superb. Genuine socialism in action.
I wish the LP were full of MPs of the same persuasion.
Unfortunately Steve the university system doesn't create the Mick Lynch's of this world .
Most of whom can't fathom why he isn't wearing a rainbow tie and a BLM badge .
Ruskin College Oxford used to do, Tyke. How much they'll continue to do so now that they've had to merge with the University of West London, I'm not sure.
Ruskin changed it's focus/and location/ a long time ago due to funding cuts.
I was there in the early 90's - one of the other students at the time was Gary Smith, now head of the GMB. He was a rubbish footballer.
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Apparently Mick Lynch has now changed his Facebook profile picture after his skirmish with Morgan.
He's changed it to a picture of piers Morgan and Ghilaine Maxwell.
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Superb, absolutely superb. Genuine socialism in action.
I wish the LP were full of MPs of the same persuasion.
Unfortunately Steve the university system doesn't create the Mick Lynch's of this world .
Most of whom can't fathom why he isn't wearing a rainbow tie and a BLM badge .
Ruskin College Oxford used to do, Tyke. How much they'll continue to do so now that they've had to merge with the University of West London, I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make Steve is that the vast majority of Labour MP's don't come from the background Mick Lynch does .
Their world and the world that the members of the RMT occupy are like chalk and cheese .
Keith and his motley crew haven't a Scooby what to do with regards to industrial action .
At a time of rising costs , threats to terms and conditions the RMT are seeking a pay increase that in reality still has them working for less whilst corporate pay explodes through the roof .
And Keith threatens disciplinary action against any of his front bench supporting the RMT on picket lines .
It doesn't surprise me of course other than further confirmation that Labour is nothing more than a weak and shallow shower of shyte that's afraid of its own shadow .
The electorate despise weak irrespective of their voting preferences .
Weak in opposition is the bottom rung of the political ladder .
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Apparently Mick Lynch has now changed his Facebook profile picture after his skirmish with Morgan.
He's changed it to a picture of piers Morgan and Ghilaine Maxwell.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What makes it even funnier is that Morgan is a very thick bully with a very thin skin.
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Superb, absolutely superb. Genuine socialism in action.
I wish the LP were full of MPs of the same persuasion.
Unfortunately Steve the university system doesn't create the Mick Lynch's of this world .
Most of whom can't fathom why he isn't wearing a rainbow tie and a BLM badge .
Ruskin College Oxford used to do, Tyke. How much they'll continue to do so now that they've had to merge with the University of West London, I'm not sure.
The point I was trying to make Steve is that the vast majority of Labour MP's don't come from the background Mick Lynch does .
Their world and the world that the members of the RMT occupy are like chalk and cheese .
Keith and his motley crew haven't a Scooby what to do with regards to industrial action .
At a time of rising costs , threats to terms and conditions the RMT are seeking a pay increase that in reality still has them working for less whilst corporate pay explodes through the roof .
And Keith threatens disciplinary action against any of his front bench supporting the RMT on picket lines .
It doesn't surprise me of course other than further confirmation that Labour is nothing more than a weak and shallow shower of shyte that's afraid of its own shadow .
The electorate despise weak irrespective of their voting preferences .
Weak in opposition is the bottom rung of the political ladder .
This,
This is precisely why the current Labour Party have made themselves totally un electable, staffed, chock full of professional talksmiths who would not piss on a working class voter if they saw them on fire, full of nonsense and pathetic liberal attitudes that are alienating the very people this party was formed to protect the interests of. led by people who have such a unwarranted belief in themselves and their minority clap trap, they can't even decide what a penis signify's FFS, unbelievable. The worst thing is that the government are no better.
I can imagine they may cause some consternation in the tory party after the results of the two bye elections comes through but as far as a general election goes the voting public are seeing how flustered they have become and have floundered about, unable to deal with a modern day industrial dispute. With possible knock on effects with other unions about to surface what do they do? This will come back to haunt Starmer and his right of centre Labour party who have no ides, no polices and no clue how to conduct themselves.
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Apparently Mick Lynch has now changed his Facebook profile picture after his skirmish with Morgan.
He's changed it to a picture of piers Morgan and Ghilaine Maxwell.
That's fake. It's still the same as it was.
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Apparently Mick Lynch has now changed his Facebook profile picture after his skirmish with Morgan.
He's changed it to a picture of piers Morgan and Ghilaine Maxwell.
That's fake. It's still the same as it was.
Ah right, I did try to check before posting but couldn't find him on FB for some reason.
I am on FB parole like
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Apparently Mick Lynch has now changed his Facebook profile picture after his skirmish with Morgan.
He's changed it to a picture of piers Morgan and Ghilaine Maxwell.
That's fake. It's still the same as it was.
So not funny at all then.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RMTunion/status/1539992549498273793
Heroes during COVID. But b*llocks to you if you want a decent pay rise.
And Starmer is being utterly stupid on this issue.
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Has anyone asked Mick where the money is coming from to fund the rises he wants?
Should pay rises be tagged to inflation (I'd say not currently) and how do we recover that?
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A better question would be, why are rail fares pegged to the RPI?
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BFYP
What happens over the long run if pay rises AREN'T keeping pace with inflation?
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It's an interesting topic and actually I tend to think it's fine in the short term to let middle-high income earners feel a slight pinch and that tapered earnings increases are a better option for employers to choose.
Are you going to give your employees a 9% pay rise and if so how are you paying for it?
Should pay keep up with inflation, not always no. But as you'll rightly say sometime it should beat it. Of course most of the population does beat inflation through promotions, bonuses and moving roles, but not all do. It is more a public sector issue than private sector.
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Kept getting shut down on Question Time amongst others.
Why do they have an biased presenter on there? And a tory loving audience
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Has anyone asked Mick where the money is coming from to fund the rises he wants?
Should pay rises be tagged to inflation (I'd say not currently) and how do we recover that?
The driving force behind the strike is also the corporate pay issue in the industry , the government subsidies , shareholder dividends and the decent profits created .
None of which are expected to be cut but the RMT members pay and conditions are .
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RMTunion/status/1539992549498273793
Heroes during COVID. But b*llocks to you if you want a decent pay rise.
And Starmer is being utterly stupid on this issue.
That tweet by Schapps certainly appears to be leaning to the left.
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Has anyone asked Mick where the money is coming from to fund the rises he wants?
Should pay rises be tagged to inflation (I'd say not currently) and how do we recover that?
I would imagine from some of the massive government subsidy that currently goes straight into the shareholders' pockets.
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Has anyone asked Mick where the money is coming from to fund the rises he wants?
Should pay rises be tagged to inflation (I'd say not currently) and how do we recover that?
I would imagine from some of the massive government subsidy that currently goes straight into the shareholders' pockets.
Aren't the majority of those involved network rail employees?
Network rail has no shareholders....
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Isn't the issue with Network Rail jobcuts and the train operating companies pay rises?
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Isn't the issue with Network Rail jobcuts and the train operating companies pay rises?
The bigger issue is with the re-organisation of job roles and working practises. From the people who i know in this union the majority voted to strike because of this rather than any wholesale pay rise.
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Isn't the issue with Network Rail jobcuts and the train operating companies pay rises?
The bigger issue is with the re-organisation of job roles and working practises. From the people who i know in this union the majority voted to strike because of this rather than any wholesale pay rise.
That was also the impression I got from Mick Lynch (when he wasn't being asked stupid questions). They are quite happy to negotiate the re-organisation - but would like a pay rise in renumeration for it. The money would come from the savings (rather than go to shareholders/executives - I mean where does the money for the CE of Network Rail's £600000 per year salary come from?)
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1540596783407157251
Tory supporters.
Do you think:
a)Johnson is so thick, he doesn't even know that train drivers aren't on strike.
Or
b) Johnson thinks you are so thick that YOU don't know who is on strike?
Got to be one or the other.
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Rail strike, and which side of the bread is buttered;
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/firstgroup-abellio-rail-strikes-rmt-shareholders-payout/#Echobox=1655997260-2
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Rail strike, and which side of the bread is buttered;
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/firstgroup-abellio-rail-strikes-rmt-shareholders-payout/#Echobox=1655997260-2
This is a landmark strike in my opinion because the RMT's industrial action is at the very heart of everything that's wrong in the UK .
The RMT's fight is almost everyone's fight .
Make no mistake this a massively important dispute , this is the miners strike of today .
I sincerely hope the outcome is better than 84/85 .
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Rail strike, and which side of the bread is buttered;
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/firstgroup-abellio-rail-strikes-rmt-shareholders-payout/#Echobox=1655997260-2
Of course, it's not as simple as the headline suggests. That £500m was the company buying back shares from shareholders after a sale of a significant part of its business. They have paid 0 dividends since 2013.
Not quite as simple as that article would have you believe.
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There would be no need for any share buyback at all if the rail industry was fully back in the public sector, would there?
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Mick Lynch gives a 10 minute video on Double Down News on what's what and why;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/august/4/mick-lynch-dismantles-the-media-keir-starmer-war-on-freedom-extreme-right-wing-tory-government
Well worth your time.
Top man is Mick!
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Mick Lynch gives a 10 minute video on Double Down News on what's what and why;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/august/4/mick-lynch-dismantles-the-media-keir-starmer-war-on-freedom-extreme-right-wing-tory-government
Well worth your time.
Top man is Mick!
The man is certainly a ‘tour de force’ & a man the more you see & hear speak the more there is to admire.
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Mick Lynch gives a 10 minute video on Double Down News on what's what and why;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/august/4/mick-lynch-dismantles-the-media-keir-starmer-war-on-freedom-extreme-right-wing-tory-government
Well worth your time.
Top man is Mick!
The man is certainly a ‘tour de force’ & a man the more you see & hear speak the more there is to admire.
Mick has an incredible skill set , the ability to demonise the Establishment , Tory Party , Client Journalists and the polarised system this country operates under without actually insulting or being aggressive is incredible , that's a remarkable gift .
This man takes people with him , ask a stupid question and he will make a monkey out of you but he does it in a light hearted way that the client journalists simply can't handle .
He's not out to topple capitalism , he's simply asking for a fair share of its profits his members help create .
It's pretty basic economics which resonate with the public because it's relatable to millions of people .
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Mick Lynch gives a 10 minute video on Double Down News on what's what and why;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/august/4/mick-lynch-dismantles-the-media-keir-starmer-war-on-freedom-extreme-right-wing-tory-government
Well worth your time.
Top man is Mick!
The man is certainly a ‘tour de force’ & a man the more you see & hear speak the more there is to admire.
Mick has an incredible skill set , the ability to demonise the Establishment , Tory Party , Client Journalists and the polarised system this country operates under without actually insulting or being aggressive is incredible , that's a remarkable gift .
This man takes people with him , ask a stupid question and he will make a monkey out of you but he does it in a light hearted way that the client journalists simply can't handle .
He's not out to topple capitalism , he's simply asking for a fair share of its profits his members help create .
It's pretty basic economics which resonate with the public because it's relatable to millions of people .
so was the economic outcome for what will turn out to be the dumbest thing Britain could have done ever to date but plenty are totally blind to it aye?
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Mick Lynch gives a 10 minute video on Double Down News on what's what and why;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/august/4/mick-lynch-dismantles-the-media-keir-starmer-war-on-freedom-extreme-right-wing-tory-government
Well worth your time.
Top man is Mick!
The man is certainly a ‘tour de force’ & a man the more you see & hear speak the more there is to admire.
Mick has an incredible skill set , the ability to demonise the Establishment , Tory Party , Client Journalists and the polarised system this country operates under without actually insulting or being aggressive is incredible , that's a remarkable gift .
This man takes people with him , ask a stupid question and he will make a monkey out of you but he does it in a light hearted way that the client journalists simply can't handle .
He's not out to topple capitalism , he's simply asking for a fair share of its profits his members help create .
It's pretty basic economics which resonate with the public because it's relatable to millions of people .
so was the economic outcome for what will turn out to be the dumbest thing Britain could have done ever to date but plenty are totally blind to it aye?
What the f*ck are you rambling on about? This thread's about Mick Lynch.
Stop being so bloody daft all the time.
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I'm just saying that he's no champion of the poor, those in poverty, those on zero hours contracts, anyone that swallowed brexit thinking anyone outside the rich top % of tories will improve their lot needs medical assistance.
All those billions, the country could do with a few right now aye?
remember this Steve, ML and anyone that voted for brexit gave permission for the tories to wreck the economy.
https://costofbrexit.netlify.app/
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I'm just saying that he's no champion of the poor, those in poverty, those on zero hours contracts, anyone that swallowed brexit thinking anyone outside the rich top % of tories will improve their lot needs medical assistance.
All those billions, the country could do with a few right now aye?
remember this Steve, ML and anyone that voted for brexit gave permission for the tories to wreck the economy.
https://costofbrexit.netlify.app/
So presumably inside your head the current crisis in the UK is simply attributed to leaving the EU per se , have I got this right ?
If that's what you truly believe and you wish to condemn a man on the narrative that all of his professional life is to be judged on the way he voted in the 2016 referendum then it stands to sense you would have supported the only Party who were willing to overturn the result of the referendum at the 2019 GE .
Did you vote for the Lib Dems in 2019 ?
Is Jo Swinson your all time political hero ?
Would you vote for a party at the next election who promised to rejoin the EU ? .
Potential candidates would be the Lib Dems and possibly one nation Tories .
If this thing is so important to you then it would cut through party politics wouldn't it .
Bear in mind your the one who is judging everything and everyone by the way they voted in the 2016 referendum .
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Actually tyke whenever I read your silly comments moaning about this and that, those that allowed a tory government in, those that could possibly have stopped them getting in, if not with your vote with your opinions and especially when you get on your high pony and knowing labour would have given people a better deal I think why don't you look in the mirror.
You won't see any returns on your brexit vote in your own lifetime, all you've done is strengthened the tory position and given them a few more turns on the hurdy-gurdy.
Don't take my word for it ask fishy rishi or more likely truss who is going to tear everything apart that she can get her mitts on.
Ask either of them if they are going to help you with your sovereignty or your workers rights. They are holding a dutch auction for them right now.
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Mick Lynch gives a 10 minute video on Double Down News on what's what and why;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/august/4/mick-lynch-dismantles-the-media-keir-starmer-war-on-freedom-extreme-right-wing-tory-government
Well worth your time.
Top man is Mick!
The man is certainly a ‘tour de force’ & a man the more you see & hear speak the more there is to admire.
Mick has an incredible skill set , the ability to demonise the Establishment , Tory Party , Client Journalists and the polarised system this country operates under without actually insulting or being aggressive is incredible , that's a remarkable gift .
This man takes people with him , ask a stupid question and he will make a monkey out of you but he does it in a light hearted way that the client journalists simply can't handle .
He's not out to topple capitalism , he's simply asking for a fair share of its profits his members help create .
It's pretty basic economics which resonate with the public because it's relatable to millions of people .
I've said for years that for the Left to succeed with a strongly left wing agenda, they needed someone charismatic enough to work the media.
That's why Corbyn was a disaster. I agreed wholeheartedly with most of his domestic policies, but he was always going to struggle to convince a majority of the electorate, because he fundamentally didn't know how to handle the media. He often came across as irascible and short tempered. And then his supporters console themselves in the line that he couldn't win because the media were against him. Like the media are EVER not going to be against a left wing leader.
Lynch has an ability to play the media at their game. Intellectually quick witted, in control of his brief, knowing what lines are going to be thrown at him and nimble enough to parry them and thrown jabs back, rather than the Corbyn approach of scowling incomprehension that anyone wouldn't agree with him.
Lynch is, I'm sure, a very big reason why the public supports the rail industrial action.
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Mick Lynch gives a 10 minute video on Double Down News on what's what and why;
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2022/august/4/mick-lynch-dismantles-the-media-keir-starmer-war-on-freedom-extreme-right-wing-tory-government
Well worth your time.
Top man is Mick!
The man is certainly a ‘tour de force’ & a man the more you see & hear speak the more there is to admire.
Mick has an incredible skill set , the ability to demonise the Establishment , Tory Party , Client Journalists and the polarised system this country operates under without actually insulting or being aggressive is incredible , that's a remarkable gift .
This man takes people with him , ask a stupid question and he will make a monkey out of you but he does it in a light hearted way that the client journalists simply can't handle .
He's not out to topple capitalism , he's simply asking for a fair share of its profits his members help create .
It's pretty basic economics which resonate with the public because it's relatable to millions of people .
I've said for years that for the Left to succeed with a strongly left wing agenda, they needed someone charismatic enough to work the media.
That's why Corbyn was a disaster. I agreed wholeheartedly with most of his domestic policies, but he was always going to struggle to convince a majority of the electorate, because he fundamentally didn't know how to handle the media. He often came across as irascible and short tempered. And then his supporters console themselves in the line that he couldn't win because the media were against him. Like the media are EVER not going to be against a left wing leader.
Lynch has an ability to play the media at their game. Intellectually quick witted, in control of his brief, knowing what lines are going to be thrown at him and nimble enough to parry them and thrown jabs back, rather than the Corbyn approach of scowling incomprehension that anyone wouldn't agree with him.
Lynch is, I'm sure, a very big reason why the public supports the rail industrial action.
“Scowling incomprehension that anyone wouldn’t agree with him”
Mmmmmm.
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Oh dear, Sydney. Not only is BST not agreeing with your obsessive love of Keith, he's not agreeing with your warped opinion of Mick Lynch.
Your constant obsession with Brexit and the Guardian is losing you friends on here.
Have you any mates in Aussie?
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Oh dear, Sydney. Not only is BST not agreeing with your obsessive love of Keith, he's not agreeing with your warped opinion of Mick Lynch.
Your constant obsession with Brexit and the Guardian is losing you friends on here.
Have you any mates in Aussie?
I'm not living with brexit Steve you are and will be till you point your toes up, as far as lynch is concerned it was only a few months ago you were creaming your jeans with the thought of Burnham for PM, who's next Elvis? I don't really care who wins the next election as long as it's labour, why not try voting for em.
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Oh dear, Sydney. Not only is BST not agreeing with your obsessive love of Keith, he's not agreeing with your warped opinion of Mick Lynch.
Your constant obsession with Brexit and the Guardian is losing you friends on here.
Have you any mates in Aussie?
I'm not living with brexit Steve you are and will be till you point your toes up, as far as lynch is concerned it was only a few months ago you were creaming your jeans with the thought of Burnham for PM, who's next Elvis? I don't really care who wins the next election as long as it's labour, why not try voting for em.
Steve, I’m not really sure why it would matter to him who wins.
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Oh dear, Sydney. Not only is BST not agreeing with your obsessive love of Keith, he's not agreeing with your warped opinion of Mick Lynch.
Your constant obsession with Brexit and the Guardian is losing you friends on here.
Have you any mates in Aussie?
I'm not living with brexit Steve you are and will be till you point your toes up, as far as lynch is concerned it was only a few months ago you were creaming your jeans with the thought of Burnham for PM, who's next Elvis? I don't really care who wins the next election as long as it's labour, why not try voting for em.
And yet you want a Labour government so much you do the Tories job for them by demonising an extremely credible Trade Union leader whose union tick every box legally to take strike action and are so much on the right side of this the passengers their action affects actually support them .
You want a Labour government so much you continue to bang the drum on a referendum result you didn't win six years on which has created more division in our society than many of us have known , so much division it's knocked the Labour Party for six whilst they couldn't make their minds up whether to bat or ball but you carry on anyway keeping the wounds open and the knife sharpened , classic Tory divide and rule .
Any movements such as Don't Pay UK you hint at anarchism even though the movement seeks to prevent 25 to 50% of UK households having to make a choice between eat or heat .
The Labour Party you supposedly support have told you if elected to government that they won't be rejoining the SM or the Customs Union and yet you want a Labour government .
The only endorsement you can offer to the merits of current Labour leader is that he was knighted by the Queen and presumably that makes him a PM in waiting and that's good enough for you even though he's broken pledges and nobody can trust a single word he says and hasn't as yet come up with one idea , policy or a vision that would make this country better under him than it is today despite having the keys to number 10 practically handed to him on a plate .
It's an incredible position you've engineered for yourself Syd .
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Oh dear, Sydney. Not only is BST not agreeing with your obsessive love of Keith, he's not agreeing with your warped opinion of Mick Lynch.
Your constant obsession with Brexit and the Guardian is losing you friends on here.
Have you any mates in Aussie?
I'm not living with brexit Steve you are and will be till you point your toes up, as far as lynch is concerned it was only a few months ago you were creaming your jeans with the thought of Burnham for PM, who's next Elvis? I don't really care who wins the next election as long as it's labour, why not try voting for em.
What the f*ck has the potential of Burnham as a PM got to do with the character of Mick Lynch?
Are you really this ill equipped to deal with semantics and the English language, or are you doing it on purpose to give us all a laugh?
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Are these the same semantics you used yesterday?
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Oh dear, Sydney. Not only is BST not agreeing with your obsessive love of Keith, he's not agreeing with your warped opinion of Mick Lynch.
Your constant obsession with Brexit and the Guardian is losing you friends on here.
Have you any mates in Aussie?
I'm not living with brexit Steve you are and will be till you point your toes up, as far as lynch is concerned it was only a few months ago you were creaming your jeans with the thought of Burnham for PM, who's next Elvis? I don't really care who wins the next election as long as it's labour, why not try voting for em.
And yet you want a Labour government so much you do the Tories job for them by demonising an extremely credible Trade Union leader whose union tick every box legally to take strike action and are so much on the right side of this the passengers their action affects actually support them .
You want a Labour government so much you continue to bang the drum on a referendum result you didn't win six years on which has created more division in our society than many of us have known , so much division it's knocked the Labour Party for six whilst they couldn't make their minds up whether to bat or ball but you carry on anyway keeping the wounds open and the knife sharpened , classic Tory divide and rule .
Any movements such as Don't Pay UK you hint at anarchism even though the movement seeks to prevent 25 to 50% of UK households having to make a choice between eat or heat .
The Labour Party you supposedly support have told you if elected to government that they won't be rejoining the SM or the Customs Union and yet you want a Labour government .
The only endorsement you can offer to the merits of current Labour leader is that he was knighted by the Queen and presumably that makes him a PM in waiting and that's good enough for you even though he's broken pledges and nobody can trust a single word he says and hasn't as yet come up with one idea , policy or a vision that would make this country better under him than it is today despite having the keys to number 10 practically handed to him on a plate .
It's an incredible position you've engineered for yourself Syd .
Brilliant post, Tyke, and addresses the root of Syd's problem with his politics. He's not a socialist, he's a liberalist, and as such should be supporting the Lib Dems or the Greens.
I imagine he loves Jo Swinson as well as Keith.
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Tell how you swallowed the tory line that brexit will give you sovereignty and tell me what it is you wanted changed tyke, then tell me about all the money being saved from not being in the EU and how that will help those worse off. You want to write to raab and ask him if he has a stocking filler for you as he tries to reign in the judiciary.
You were sucker punched tyke, and the saving grace was you're not on your own
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Tell how you swallowed the tory line that brexit will give you sovereignty and tell me what it is you wanted changed tyke, then tell me about all the money being saved from not being in the EU and how that will help those worse off. You want to write to raab and ask him if he has a stocking filler for you as he tries to reign in the judiciary.
You were sucker punched tyke, and the saving grace was you're not on your own
Zzzzzzz.
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semantics Steve
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semantics Steve
It’s enough to make you want to emigrate to warmer climes.
Somewhere that having a good BBQ will gather far more comment & interest amongst your neighbours (‘Neighbours….that’s when good neighbours become…’ sing along at your leisure) than what’s happening in Ukraine or Taiwan or the UK unless of course, you took that gigantic decision to head for that ‘new life’ where you could wear shorts all year round, keep that tan topped up & yet….there’s something missing in your life Syd isn’t there?
Which is why (imo from your many trivial & ‘juvenile’ posts) you’re missing something ‘Down Under’…..debate.
Now there’s only so many times you can ‘debate’ with neighbours how many flies they trapped in doors that day & the best way to attract then kill them or repulse them altogether before you start to hanker after ‘proper debate’, the sort you used to have ‘back home’?
The problem with you using this forum as a means to fill that void you’ve decided to mentally, physically (geographically) ‘remove’ yourself from is that very ‘art’ you desperately seek to still immerse yourself in (for reasons better known to yourself…..homesickness perhaps?) is that given you now live on the other side of the world, it has no credence.
Think about that carefully, ‘no credence’ the next time you come on this forum & espouse to those of us who still live in the UK how we should ‘conduct’ our political decisions because when push comes to shove, your credibility on such topics also sailed with you all those years ago.
P.S. As a ‘Limey’, can i ask you to do me one favour? At your next neighbourly BBQ could you please ask a natural born Aussie for me “Why would you tie a kangaroo down?”.
Good on yer sport.
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semantics Steve
It’s enough to make you want to emigrate to warmer climes.
Somewhere that having a good BBQ will gather far more comment & interest amongst your neighbours (‘Neighbours….that’s when good neighbours become…’ sing along at your leisure) than what’s happening in Ukraine or Taiwan or the UK unless of course, you took that gigantic decision to head for that ‘new life’ where you could wear shorts all year round, keep that tan topped up & yet….there’s something missing in your life Syd isn’t there?
Which is why (imo from your many trivial & ‘juvenile’ posts) you’re missing something ‘Down Under’…..debate.
Now there’s only so many times you can ‘debate’ with neighbours how many flies they trapped in doors that day & the best way to attract then kill them or repulse them altogether before you start to hanker after ‘proper debate’, the sort you used to have ‘back home’?
The problem with you using this forum as a means to fill that void you’ve decided to mentally, physically (geographically) ‘remove’ yourself from is that very ‘art’ you desperately seek to still immerse yourself in (for reasons better known to yourself…..homesickness perhaps?) is that given you now live on the other side of the world, it has no credence.
Think about that carefully, ‘no credence’ the next time you come on this forum & espouse to those of us who still live in the UK how we should ‘conduct’ our political decisions because when push comes to shove, your credibility on such topics also sailed with you all those years ago.
P.S. As a ‘Limey’, can i ask you to do me one favour? At your next neighbourly BBQ could you please ask a natural born Aussie for me “Why would you tie a kangaroo down?”.
Good on yer sport.
Brilliant post, CC. Take heed, Syd, there are some good semantics in here.
I reckon the reason Rolf Harris would tie a kangaroo down would be so he could sh*g it; as long as it's a very young one.
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how many semantics are there in a brexit vote Steve?
I'm your mortal enemy I despise and want to break you, vote for me and I will. I will bring poverty to your country to add to the poverty you enjoyed throughout Austerity (didn't see the semantics in that one?) and I will enrich those already super wealthy at your expense. I will make you challenge your own sanity and deny reality.
Till death do us part
regards brexit
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Col, around 1 in 10 or 12 of the UK pop live in another country
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Col, around 1 in 10 or 12 of the UK pop live in another country
As many as a dozen……crikey cobba!
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Down the pub with Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGjs_bBMBA
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Down the pub with Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGjs_bBMBA
I hope Sydney's listened to it. Then he'll know exactly how Keith should be talking.
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Down the pub with Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGjs_bBMBA
I hope Sydney's listened to it. Then he'll know exactly how Keith should be talking.
I think that's the problem with Syd Steve .
The Union leaders and people movements are exposing the Labour Party for the spineless set of tossers that they are .
Syd either knows it and he's in denial or it's just envy .
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Down the pub with Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGjs_bBMBA
I hope Sydney's listened to it. Then he'll know exactly how Keith should be talking.
I'll be more than happy if Lynch can take labour to the next election and win, have you asked him if that's what he wants to do?
Thought not Steve, you need to grow some and get involved.
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Down the pub with Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGjs_bBMBA
I hope Sydney's listened to it. Then he'll know exactly how Keith should be talking.
I think that's the problem with Syd Steve .
The Union leaders and people movements are exposing the Labour Party for the spineless set of tossers that they are .
Syd either knows it and he's in denial or it's just envy .
all mouth no trousers tyke, you're banging on about unions and union power, when were you last in a union 30+ years ago? I've asked you several times have I not.
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Down the pub with Mick Lynch and Eddie Dempsey;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyGjs_bBMBA
I hope Sydney's listened to it. Then he'll know exactly how Keith should be talking.
I think that's the problem with Syd Steve .
The Union leaders and people movements are exposing the Labour Party for the spineless set of tossers that they are .
Syd either knows it and he's in denial or it's just envy .
all mouth no trousers tyke, you're banging on about unions and union power, when were you last in a union 30+ years ago? I've asked you several times have I not.
My background is well documented on this forum in the great number of exchanges I've contributed to in the time I've been on here .
It's often used against me by a one or two on here including yourself and now you want to conveniently question it because I suspect I've hit a nerve with yourself .
This from someone who is so principled that the source of all his bitterness and anger is the result of a referendum 6 years ago that went against him but clearly won't vote for a party that would have overturned that result .
Principles eh ? , if you don't like them I have others .
The fact is the Labour Party of today doesn't want people like me , it's almost guaranteed that if I were a member with affiliations to certain left wing movements I would have got thrown out of the party along with people such as Ken Loach .
That's fine , however by definition if the Labour Party wants to follow that path in its quest for government it believes it can do it without me .
Keith has made the decision that the Labour Party is no longer a broad church and wants to put as much distance between itself and people currently striking or those who have any left leaning credentials
Neither does he want to take back in to public ownership one single thing .
Again that's fine , crack on .
Whilst you would have voted for a little Austrian man with a moustache in 1930's Germany had he worn a red rosette because of your incessant tribalism don't expect others to see it the same way .
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t was only a little question tykey, when were you last in a union? is all ....... no big deal, it just explains how involved you've been or just sat on the couch, hehe