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Title: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: River Don on July 16, 2022, 12:39:24 am
Happy Monday's are probably underrated for their music but really they were pretty ground breaking. A large part of the sound was Paul and his funky baselines.

Gone much too soon.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: Nudga on July 16, 2022, 12:45:02 am
Let me guess, died suddenly?
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: River Don on July 16, 2022, 12:53:55 am
They haven't revealed the cause of death.

He admits he took copious amounts of drugs to cope with stage fright, probably not the healthiest lifestyle ever.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: DonnyOsmond on July 16, 2022, 07:48:12 pm
Let me guess, died suddenly?

Must have been the vaccine.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: Nudga on July 16, 2022, 10:34:09 pm
Let me guess, died suddenly?

Must have been the vaccine.

Either that or, let me see

Falling asleep watching TV
Loud referees whistles
Drinking the nations favourite brew
Gardening.
Eating breakfast
Heatwaves
Making the bed.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on July 16, 2022, 11:48:00 pm
Happy Monday's are probably underrated for their music but really they were pretty ground breaking. A large part of the sound was Paul and his funky baselines.

Gone much too soon.

Crying shame.

I first saw the Mondays supporting New Order at the GMex in 1988. They were unlistenable. Absolute shambles. But then I listened to Bummed and 24 Hour Party People and I got it. Just genius. Rave music with a standard guitar/bass/drums set up. Irresistible.

I saw them supporting James a few months later at Trent Poly and they blew them away. None of that tight arse indie introspective shite. This was proper north of England funk.

Christ I feel old.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: River Don on July 17, 2022, 10:35:34 pm
Happy Monday's are probably underrated for their music but really they were pretty ground breaking. A large part of the sound was Paul and his funky baselines.

Gone much too soon.

Paul said he tried to recreate acid house bass lines with a guitar. Come on!

Crying shame.

I first saw the Mondays supporting New Order at the GMex in 1988. They were unlistenable. Absolute shambles. But then I listened to Bummed and 24 Hour Party People and I got it. Just genius. Rave music with a standard guitar/bass/drums set up. Irresistible.

I saw them supporting James a few months later at Trent Poly and they blew them away. None of that tight arse indie introspective shite. This was proper north of England funk.

Christ I feel old.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: River Don on July 17, 2022, 10:37:34 pm
Paul said he tried to recreate acid house bass lines with a guitar. That was his innovation.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: RobTheRover on July 18, 2022, 07:01:28 am
Happy Monday's are probably underrated for their music but really they were pretty ground breaking. A large part of the sound was Paul and his funky baselines.

Gone much too soon.

Crying shame.

I first saw the Mondays supporting New Order at the GMex in 1988. They were unlistenable. Absolute shambles. But then I listened to Bummed and 24 Hour Party People and I got it. Just genius. Rave music with a standard guitar/bass/drums set up. Irresistible.

I saw them supporting James a few months later at Trent Poly and they blew them away. None of that tight arse indie introspective shite. This was proper north of England funk.

Christ I feel old.

I was at that gig too. ACR opened, Mondays on second. I too thought they were a right shambles until hearing 24HPP. 
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on July 18, 2022, 11:19:52 am
That's the one Rob.

I never did get ACR. Tony Wilson thought they were going to be stars, but I've no idea what he saw in them. Maybe I should go back and have another go.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: River Don on July 26, 2022, 08:31:09 am
ACR were always a bit of an enigma. This dark funk thing is an interesting idea but somehow they couldn't write a track with enough of a hook for me. They have their followers, Giles Petterson is a big fan I believe.

They did a track with Bernard Sumner - Good Together. That is pretty good but I think there is probably a lot of Barney going into that.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVP-6FfeWIQ
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: RobTheRover on July 26, 2022, 08:39:57 pm
Talking of a bit of Barney, I got the Electronic remixes mini lp in the last RSD.  It's rather fine. 
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: River Don on July 26, 2022, 09:18:19 pm
Like New Order, I see ACR have wound up on Mute records. They have quite a roster now.

https://mute.com/artists/a-certain-ratio

Still going, still putting out new material.
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on July 26, 2022, 10:19:41 pm
ACR always seemed a little bit like Chakk from Sheffield. Good idea in theory to marry slap bass funk with white, Northern, working class grit. But in practice it last didn't work.

It was all too self-conscious. Like a Labrador wearing crotchless panties. Both are fine on their own, but neither enhance the other when put together.

Mind, could've been worse. At least neither of them were Level 42...
Title: Re: RIP Paul Ryder
Post by: River Don on July 26, 2022, 11:45:11 pm
The Happy Mondays were a good effort then, though perhaps the most succesful effort at White, working class funk was Fools Gold by the Stone Roses...

I suppose there was that bloke from Cleethorpes who wrote Michael Jackson hits.