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Title: Where's Johnson?
Post by: wilts rover on August 01, 2022, 08:40:29 pm
Given that we have the largest multi-sport event outside the Olympics currently ongoing and have just hosted the most important Women's Football tournament outside the World Cup - where's Johnson at these?

You usually cant keep him away from a photo opportunity - is the people's prime minister scared of being booed in public again?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: danumdon on August 01, 2022, 08:43:38 pm
Hopefully taking some advice for once and keeping his and nut nuts heads down and out of the way till the coronation in Sept.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 02, 2022, 01:55:33 am
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1648861/david-trimble-funeral-pictures-Boris-Johnson-Northern-Ireland-first-minister-Tony-Blair

His funeral is taking place in Lisburn, County Antrim, today. Politicians, including Boris Johnson, are among those attending the funeral, after the former Ulster Unionist Party Leader died last week aged 77.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: mugnapper on August 02, 2022, 11:45:39 am
Preparing his next Leadership challenge.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: ravenrover on August 02, 2022, 02:06:50 pm
Stitched up better than The Bayeaux Tapestry he says about being kicked out, haven't we heard that phrase somewhere before?
I hope the speculation about putting Dottie Dorries into the HoL so that he can have her safe seat is incorrect.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 14, 2022, 10:07:34 pm
Apparently Johnson returned from a holiday in Slovenia last week.

Today he's on holiday at a resort near Athens.

What exactly has he been doing regarding running the f**king country in the last few weeks before he's finally kicked out?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: drfchound on August 14, 2022, 10:23:01 pm
It was a very strange decision to leave Johnson in charge while a new leader is appointed.
As I said yesterday, Rovers appoint managers quicker.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 14, 2022, 10:53:17 pm
But while he's not in the country he isn't in charge. Is anybody actually running the country?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: idler on August 15, 2022, 09:44:56 am
I think that he is just letting Truss and Sunak battle it out as the country gets deeper in the mire.
He can then say, "Look how bad things have become after I was forcibly removed".
That will have his most ardent supporters clamouring for his return.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 09:57:02 am
He can't win in the eyes of Labour supporters no matter what he does. One minute they're moaning that he should have been instantly removed from leadership responsibility and the next they're moaning that he's not still running the country!

It does make one chuckle.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: drfchound on August 15, 2022, 09:59:44 am
I know that Starmer is in Opposition BB but I haven’t seen anyone having a pop at him for being on holiday, well except for Gordon Brown.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 10:30:55 am
I know that Starmer is in Opposition BB but I haven’t seen anyone having a pop at him for being on holiday, well except for Gordon Brown.
Well, they wouldn't Hound, would they? They aren't accused of blatant, one-sided, bias for no reason.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 10:34:24 am
Johnson is PM and being paid as PM in the middle of a national crisis. He won't be PM in 4 weeks. Would it have been impossible for him to delay his holidays by a few weeks? Is that too much to ask?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 10:38:07 am
Starmer is the opposition leader and is being paid in the middle of a national crisis. Would it have been impossible for him to delay his holidays by a few weeks?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 10:46:43 am
BB
How about you engage your brain for a moment before you write another daft post and think about the difference between Starmer and Johnson's positions?

One will still have the responsibility of his post for the foreseeable future. One will have all the time in the world to go wherever he wants on holiday.

While you're keeping your gob shut, you could educate yourself by doing a bit of research on exactly how many holidays Johnson has had since becoming PM. You'd find it interesting.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 11:02:03 am
And here we go again.

Typically, the more b*llocks you talk, the more insulting you get and the less sensible answers replies you give.

Johnson has holidays at the wrong time. Starmer can have them at the wrong time because he's in the job for a considerable time!

It does make one chuckle.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Filo on August 15, 2022, 11:15:04 am
I know that Starmer is in Opposition BB but I haven’t seen anyone having a pop at him for being on holiday, well except for Gordon Brown.

Starmer is not PM, not even Caretaker PM, he can’t do anything, meanwhile the caretaker PM is on his second holiday while the Country burns and he doesn’t give a toss, there is a big difference between the two but whataboutery is your Modus Operendi
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 11:19:41 am
A...nd round in circles we go!

Johnson can't win in the eyes of Labour supporters no matter what he does. One minute they're moaning that he should have been instantly removed from leadership responsibility and the next they're moaning that he's not still running the country!

It does make one chuckle.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: turnbull for england on August 15, 2022, 11:27:13 am
If you leave, you aren't in charge

If you stay, you're in charge

If you demand to stay and then go on holidays , the jobs not getting done.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 11:32:49 am
BB.
God this is tiring but...deep breath


I have  no problem with anyone taking a holiday. A PM in particular has a horrendously stressful job and needs to recharge their batteries.

But he's not going to be PM in 3 weeks. So he doesn't have batteries to recharge. He can take as long as he likes n whatever holidays he wants after the start of September.

But that's not Johnson is it? He's barely lifted a finger since he was forced to put his resignation in the post. He's dressed up as a soldier and pretended he was in the trenches. He's flown in a Typhoon. He's held a massive wedding celebration at the PM's taxpayer funded country mansion. Then gone on one holiday. Come back for a couple of days. Mumbled something about how we must do more to help people with energy costs, then f**ked off on his second foreign holiday in a fortnight. 


Given that the Tory party has a leadership election process that takes longer to run than the duration of some Popes' reigns, Johnson IS still PM. I'd prefer it if he weren't but that's where we are.

That's what he is. A f**king spoilt, entitled kid. And you will support him to the death.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Filo on August 15, 2022, 11:39:35 am
A...nd round in circles we go!

Johnson can't win in the eyes of Labour supporters no matter what he does. One minute they're moaning that he should have been instantly removed from leadership responsibility and the next they're moaning that he's not still running the country!

It does make one chuckle.

He should have been instantly removed, but he wasn’t so therefore we have to suck it up, but the least we could expect is for him to work his notice and run the Country
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 11:46:51 am
BST. Johnson is PM for the next 3 weeks in name only. His position now is impotent. On the other hand, your great leader is firmly in charge of the opposition party and should be responsible enough to be there, in such a time of national crisis, standing for what you believe in.

Instead, the bugger buggers off on holiday!
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 11:56:19 am
He's PM. Full stop. He's drawing the wage. He's using Chequers for private parties. If Putin launches s missile at us at 3am, it's Johnson who makes the decision to fire back.

There is no such thing as "PM in name only".
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 12:03:36 pm
In that case, there is no such thing as an Opposition leader in name only, if They're not there to oppose.

Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 12:08:01 pm
What the f**k are you rabbiting on about now?

The issue is not whether it's acceptable for someone to have a holiday. Of course it is acceptable. The issue is whether Johnson might have had the decency to actually be PM for the last few weeks and save his holiday till after he had left No 10. (Although, of course he HAS left No10...)
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 12:16:08 pm
My issue is that Labour supporters wanted him out of office immediately and kicked up shit at the idea of him still being active in decision-making. Now that he's allegedly not active in decision making Labour supporters are kicking up shit!


Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 12:20:27 pm

Actually, that wasn't your issue when you started ranting, but we'll let that pass. You have a habit of wriggling like a fish out of water when you realise you were talking b*llocks.


Regardless of what anyone wanted, he IS PM.

He's drawing the wage. Getting all the trappings. And not doing the job. If he didn't want to do the job, he could have resigned instantly and let a formal caretaker take over. But he wouldn't do that. Because he's having his last jollies before he f**ks off into very well deserved obscurity.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 12:35:43 pm
What do you mean that wasn't my issue to start with? Talking b*llocks again, I see.

Regarding your last chapter, that could almost apply to your great leader Starmer.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 12:51:08 pm
Your first reply to me was  typical #bothsides load of b*llocks about Starmer taking a holiday. At least you've dropped that line now, so there's some progress.

As regards YOUR last line, you are doing that thing again that you do every time your argument is shown to be worthless. You move the goalposts.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 12:58:50 pm
What? Are you pissed, Or maybe just changing the goalposts? 
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: SydneyRover on August 15, 2022, 02:00:29 pm
I would have thought those that moan and cry about people on welfare if they happen to smoke or have an iphone or have pay tv would have been all over this lazy f**k taking holls at public expense.

''No 10 admits Johnson will only be contacted if urgent while on holiday''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/15/senior-tory-defends-johnson-for-taking-second-holiday-amid-energy-crisis

Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: SydneyRover on August 15, 2022, 02:02:12 pm
see ya bb
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Ldr on August 15, 2022, 02:29:22 pm
MPs from both sides of the house take vacation during summer recess shocker!!!!
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: SydneyRover on August 15, 2022, 02:33:15 pm
MPs from both sides of the house take vacation during summer recess shocker!!!!

If you see a match between johnson and any other PM fill your boots Ldr
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 02:53:08 pm
Ldr. Let me rework that one for you.

Bothsidesist fails to spot that Leader of Opposition doesn't have two foreign holidays in a fortnight, or host a private party at a state funded residence or play soldiers when he should be doing the job he's paid for shocker.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Ldr on August 15, 2022, 02:59:36 pm
Ldr. Let me rework that one for you.

Bothsidesist fails to spot that Leader of Opposition doesn't have two foreign holidays in a fortnight, or host a private party at a state funded residence or play soldiers when he should be doing the job he's paid for shocker.

Or alternatively

BST in faux outrage for political point scoring shocker
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 03:18:12 pm
Ldr. Let me rework that one for you.

Bothsidesist fails to spot that Leader of Opposition doesn't have two foreign holidays in a fortnight, or host a private party at a state funded residence or play soldiers when he should be doing the job he's paid for shocker.

I'm sure he wouldn't be the only boss to toss it off when he should be doing the job he's paid for.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BigH on August 15, 2022, 03:48:41 pm
Lord knows, Johnson has his critics and I'm one of them.

But if I'm going to be fair, this is one for the Conservative Party rather than the man himself. They jettisoned him without any idea how it would play out, including what the interim plan was while they chose a new leader.

All he's done is behave true to form, as in 'I'll do what I want and sod the rest of you'.

I'm only surprised that anyone's surprised.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: drfchound on August 15, 2022, 06:44:20 pm
Starmer just been interviewed on the evening news and when he was questioned about why he hadn’t been the one challenging the government on the rise in energy prices instead of the likes of Martin Lewis and Ed Davy doing it, Starmer said that he has another job.
That is being a dad and he said he won’t apologise for going on holiday with his kids.
I don’t suppose other Party leaders are allowed to do stuff like that.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: rich1471 on August 15, 2022, 06:58:45 pm
What's the issue on going on holiday and not been contacted they have families and lives just because the run the country does not mean they cannot have a break  ,I would tell me my boss to get stuffed if they tried calling me on holiday
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 07:04:44 pm
Rich.

As I've said, I've nothing against anyone going on holiday. But it's the timing of it. Given that Johnson wanted to stay on as PM until his replacement is elected, it wouldn't have been much of a sacrifice for him to wait another 3-4 weeks before going, by which time he'd have properly stood down.

As it is, it's hard to see what he's actually done as PM over the last few weeks.

Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 07:59:56 pm
Rich.

As I've said, I've nothing against anyone going on holiday. But it's the timing of it. Given that Johnson wanted to stay on as PM until his replacement is elected, it wouldn't have been much of a sacrifice for him to wait another 3-4 weeks before going, by which time he'd have properly stood down.

As it is, it's hard to see what he's actually done as PM over the last few weeks.



Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that b*llocks? Whether Johnson was about to stand down as PM or not he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis, no?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: drfchound on August 15, 2022, 08:04:30 pm
Rich.

As I've said, I've nothing against anyone going on holiday. But it's the timing of it. Given that Johnson wanted to stay on as PM until his replacement is elected, it wouldn't have been much of a sacrifice for him to wait another 3-4 weeks before going, by which time he'd have properly stood down.

As it is, it's hard to see what he's actually done as PM over the last few weeks.





Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that b*llocks? Whether Johnson was about to stand down as PM or not he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis, no?

In another 3-4 weeks his kids will be back at school too.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Filo on August 15, 2022, 08:17:28 pm
Rich.

As I've said, I've nothing against anyone going on holiday. But it's the timing of it. Given that Johnson wanted to stay on as PM until his replacement is elected, it wouldn't have been much of a sacrifice for him to wait another 3-4 weeks before going, by which time he'd have properly stood down.

As it is, it's hard to see what he's actually done as PM over the last few weeks.





Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that b*llocks? Whether Johnson was about to stand down as PM or not he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis, no?

In another 3-4 weeks his kids will be back at school too.


Wilfred is 2 years old, Romy is 8 Months old, not even school age
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: drfchound on August 15, 2022, 09:57:09 pm
Rich.

As I've said, I've nothing against anyone going on holiday. But it's the timing of it. Given that Johnson wanted to stay on as PM until his replacement is elected, it wouldn't have been much of a sacrifice for him to wait another 3-4 weeks before going, by which time he'd have properly stood down.

As it is, it's hard to see what he's actually done as PM over the last few weeks.





Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that b*llocks? Whether Johnson was about to stand down as PM or not he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis, no?

In another 3-4 weeks his kids will be back at school too.


Wilfred is 2 years old, Romy is 8 Months old, not even school age

And what about his other kids of school age?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: normal rules on August 15, 2022, 10:03:39 pm
Removal vans seen outside no10 today.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 15, 2022, 10:09:49 pm
A...nd round in circles we go!

Johnson can't win in the eyes of Labour supporters no matter what he does. One minute they're moaning that he should have been instantly removed from leadership responsibility and the next they're moaning that he's not still running the country!

It does make one chuckle.

I'm moaning that NOBODY is running the country! It doesn't have to be Johnson at all, just SOMEBODY.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on August 15, 2022, 10:14:19 pm
MPs from both sides of the house take vacation during summer recess shocker!!!!

Parliament goes on recess. The Government is never on recess. Shocker!!!!
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 10:29:27 pm
A...nd round in circles we go!

Johnson can't win in the eyes of Labour supporters no matter what he does. One minute they're moaning that he should have been instantly removed from leadership responsibility and the next they're moaning that he's not still running the country!

It does make one chuckle.

I'm moaning that NOBODY is running the country! It doesn't have to be Johnson at all, just SOMEBODY.
The deputy prime minister is supposed to be running the country and Johnson is only a call away if needed.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 11:48:53 pm
A...nd round in circles we go!

Johnson can't win in the eyes of Labour supporters no matter what he does. One minute they're moaning that he should have been instantly removed from leadership responsibility and the next they're moaning that he's not still running the country!

It does make one chuckle.

I'm moaning that NOBODY is running the country! It doesn't have to be Johnson at all, just SOMEBODY.
The deputy prime minister is supposed to be running the country and Johnson is only a call away if needed.

Makes you wonder why a PM should ever be in No10 then.

The point, once again, is that he could very easily have delayed his holiday, and the massive private party he threw in a public owned mansion, until he'd stepped down in just a few weeks.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 15, 2022, 11:53:08 pm
BST. Whether Johnson was about to stand down as PM or not he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis, no?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 15, 2022, 11:55:00 pm
Rich.

As I've said, I've nothing against anyone going on holiday. But it's the timing of it. Given that Johnson wanted to stay on as PM until his replacement is elected, it wouldn't have been much of a sacrifice for him to wait another 3-4 weeks before going, by which time he'd have properly stood down.

As it is, it's hard to see what he's actually done as PM over the last few weeks.



Correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't that b*llocks? Whether Johnson was about to stand down as PM or not he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis, no?

What the f**k are you blathering on about now? If he'd waited till early Sept, he would neither be nor about to not be PM anymore. He would have been ex-PM and as far as I'm concerned, can go on holiday wherever he wants.

Similarly, if he wasn't standing down this summer, I'd have had no issue at all with him taking a holiday at any time in the summer.

The issue is him not even being arsed to do the job of PM in the last few days before he's finally booted out of office.

Typical of him to do that.

Typical of you to contort yourself into embarrassing shapes to support him.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 16, 2022, 12:01:19 am
Watch my lips. If Johnson was not about to stand down as PM he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis.

No?
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 16, 2022, 12:15:36 am
Watch my lips. If Johnson was not about to stand down as PM he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis.

No?


No. He. Wouldn't.

Not by me. I fully appreciate that everyone has the right to a reasonable break.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 16, 2022, 12:22:46 am
Watch my lips. If Johnson was not about to stand down as PM he would still have been rebuked for taking a holiday during a national crisis.

No?


No. He. Wouldn't.

Not by me. I fully appreciate that everyone has the right to a reasonable break.
In that case, and because of your protection of your great leader, I call you a liar.
Title: Re: Where's Johnson?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on August 16, 2022, 12:25:07 am
Night night. I truly don't know how I'll sleep.