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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Alan Southstand on August 20, 2022, 09:50:37 pm
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Anderson & Knoyle - back spasms
Long - hyper extension of the knee
All 3 could be going for scans on Monday.
Long’s injury sounds the worst?
Who was it who was asking why have we got 5 centre backs?
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Think we might need 6 in future
COYR
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Anderson the worst for me. Sounds like it’s a secondary injury to the problems he’s had. Hopefully he can shake it off
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Anderson the worst for me. Sounds like it’s a secondary injury to the problems he’s had. Hopefully he can shake it off
Anderson had a foot injury previously, so unlikely that a back spasm is connected.
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Was Maxwell a tactical change? Strange decision if so given that we were already so stretched at the back.
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That is what I thought too.
McSheff said in his interview though (I have just listened to it) that he wanted to get Rowe to left back to take care of Bolton and his physicality.
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We did the same on Tuesday night, tactical and it worked again.
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Was Maxwell a tactical change? Strange decision if so given that we were already so stretched at the back.
I thought Maxwell struggled today, Tommy definitely did better with that side.
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Petch and Flint two good central defenders in the u18s, and massive and good players.
Hopefully not required but very good cover, and like Faulkner no shrinking violets.
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good substitution for me as maxwell has struggled a little last two games
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Anderson the worst for me. Sounds like it’s a secondary injury to the problems he’s had. Hopefully he can shake it off
If he has back spasm’s, nothing to do with his previous problems. He had plantar Fasciitis which is a foot tendon inflamation previously.
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good substation for me as maxwell has struggled a little last two games
Love a good substation me....
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good substation for me as maxwell has struggled a little last two games
Love a good substation me....
Watt ?
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Back spasms. Could be out for a while of back next week. Knoyle is the big loss
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good substation for me as maxwell has struggled a little last two games
Love a good substation me....
Watt ?
No mate, he was playing for Salford.
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Petch and Flint two good central defenders in the u18s, and massive and good players.
Hopefully not required but very good cover, and like Faulkner no shrinking violets.
it's a welcome change that we have lads coming through that have some size about them and arnt scared to mix it with the men. Too often wee slips of lads have the skill but just can't challenge physically..
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good substation for me as maxwell has struggled a little last two games
Love a good substation me....
Watt ?
No mate, he was playing for Salford.
Love this sketch about George Bush and Condoleezza Rice:
Hu's the new leader of China
Playwright Jim Sherman wrote this after Hu Jintao was named chief of the Communist Party in China. (We take you now to the Oval Office.)
George: Condi! Nice to see you. What's happening?
Condi: Sir, I have the report here about the new leader of China.
George: Great. Lay it on me.
Condi: Hu is the new leader of China.
George: That's what I want to know.
Condi: That's what I'm telling you.
George: That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China?
Condi: Yes.
George: I mean the fellow's name.
Condi: Hu.
George: The guy in China.
Condi: Hu.
George: The new leader of China.
Condi: Hu.
George: The Chinaman!
Condi: Hu is leading China.
George: Now whaddya' asking me for?
Condi: I'm telling you Hu is leading China.
George: Well, I'm asking you. Who is leading China?
Condi: That's the man's name.
George: That's who's name?
Condi: Yes.
George: Will you or will you not tell me the name of the new leader of China?
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: Yassir? Yassir Arafat is in China? I thought he was in the Middle East.
Condi: That's correct.
George: Then who is in China?
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: Yassir is in China?
Condi: No, sir.
George: Then who is?
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: Yassir?
Condi: No, sir.
George: Look, Condi. I need to know the name of the new leader of China. Get me the Secretary General of the U.N. on the phone.
Condi: Kofi?
George: No, thanks.
Condi: You want Kofi?
George: No.
Condi: You don't want Kofi.
George: No. But now that you mention it, I could use a glass of milk. And then get me the U.N.
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: Not Yassir! The guy at the U.N.
Condi: Kofi?
George: Milk! Will you please make the call?
Condi: And call who?
George: Who is the guy at the U.N?
Condi: Hu is the guy in China.
George: Will you stay out of China?!
Condi: Yes, sir.
George: And stay out of the Middle East! Just get me the guy at the U.N.
Condi: Kofi.
George: All right! With cream and two sugars. Now get on the phone.
(Condi picks up the phone.)
Condi: Rice, here.
George: Rice? Good idea. And a couple of egg rolls, too. Maybe we should send some to the guy in China. And the Middle East. Can you get Chinese food in the Middle East?
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I saw a vid of Abbott & Costello do the same about new and existing baseball players in their local team. It was a "live" stage show, and was absolutely amazing to watch. It was so fast, I was having trouble keeping up with it, how the hell they remember a sketch as complicated as that is beyond me. I struggle remembering the words to Happy Birthday. It was funny as hell. I will check Youtube se if I can find the above sketch as well.
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Is that the Who's on first sketch?
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That'll be the one
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Anderson the worst for me. Sounds like it’s a secondary injury to the problems he’s had. Hopefully he can shake it off
If he has back spasm’s, nothing to do with his previous problems. He had plantar Fasciitis which is a foot tendon inflamation previously.
I've got that, it seems like nothing, until you realise you can't get rid of it. :crying:
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Anderson the worst for me. Sounds like it’s a secondary injury to the problems he’s had. Hopefully he can shake it off
If he has back spasm’s, nothing to do with his previous problems. He had plantar Fasciitis which is a foot tendon inflamation previously.
Sorry, probably didn’t explain what I meant. I meant when players are out for long periods of time, they often pick up other niggles and injuries because they are over compensating for the area initially injured.
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..... any updates after any scans ?
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Nothing on DFP website (yet) this morning other than a new piece where Seaman can go on loan..
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Nothing on DFP website (yet) this morning other than a new piece where Seaman can go on loan..
Seaman going out on loan releases money. We then negotiate with Portsmouth to pay the additional amount to Freeman's salary and "bobs your uncle"
Freeman signed for one year.
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..... any updates after any scans ?
Don’t think we will get to know anything until possibly Thursday:Friday
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Seems daft sending our only other right back out on loan. Hopefully Knoyle isn't injured for Saturday
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Seems daft sending our only other right back out on loan. Hopefully Knoyle isn't injured for Saturday
He’s been available for loan since the end of last season.
This is what McSheffery said
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Doncaster boss McSheffrey said: “We had a chat with Charlie at the end of the season. He’s still contracted, but if Charlie was able to find himself a loan he could go.
"He’s a good lad, he turns up, he trains, but ultimately it’s one of them”
McSheffrey added: “If we need him he could be playing, but he could leave if he wanted to.”
An injury to first-choice right-back Kyle Knoyle – the severity of which is not yet known – may well open the door for Seaman to stake a claim for regular first-team football at the Eco-Power Stadium.
For me if Knoyle injury is bad and could be out for a while then I believe we will go for a better right back than Seaman.
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It's a strange one as I don't see seaman as a defender but more an attacking midfielder, the club must want him gone with the way it was put ,it's one of them
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
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Any update on the injuries? Knoyle and Anderson being back I'm going all over 16/5 odds on us
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
He’s not a right back and never will be his defensive qualities are not up to standard. When he played at Maidstone he was always in an midfield attacking role. If Knoyles injury keeps him out for a while we need a better right back.
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
He’s not a right back and never will be his defensive qualities are not up to standard. When he played at Maidstone he was always in an midfield attacking role. If Knoyles injury keeps him out for a while we need a better right back.
You are right Steve and I think Maidstone is his level too
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Knoyle will be fine, he was at the Sheff Wed v Rochdale game. If his back was that bad he wouldn’t sit on a plastic chair for 90 mins.
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Knoyle will be fine, he was at the Sheff Wed v Rochdale game. If his back was that bad he wouldn’t sit on a plastic chair for 90 mins.
Was he watching before a late move in the transfer window
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Knoyle will be fine, he was at the Sheff Wed v Rochdale game. If his back was that bad he wouldn’t sit on a plastic chair for 90 mins.
Was he watching before a late move in the transfer window
Classic nervous Rovers take on it :lol: Saw it on his Instagram story, he was cheering on Cameron John.
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Knoyle will be fine, he was at the Sheff Wed v Rochdale game. If his back was that bad he wouldn’t sit on a plastic chair for 90 mins.
Was he watching before a late move in the transfer window
Classic nervous Rovers take on it :lol: Saw it on his Instagram story, he was cheering on Cameron John.
It was a joke, I just couldn’t be bothered to put an emoji
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No news is good news, why give the opposition a heads up on who we have fit and available?!
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
He’s not a right back and never will be his defensive qualities are not up to standard. When he played at Maidstone he was always in an midfield attacking role. If Knoyles injury keeps him out for a while we need a better right back.
You are right Steve and I think Maidstone is his level too
Weren't Maidstone in league 2 then or am I mistaken?
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Yes, Shame about Seaman as he showed quite a bit of promise but would have to agree, he was usually a yard short when it came to defending, so if anything a more advanced position would probably suit him best.
Don't think his interrupted time so far has helped in either so maybe a fresh start would be best all round.
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
He’s not a right back and never will be his defensive qualities are not up to standard. When he played at Maidstone he was always in an midfield attacking role. If Knoyles injury keeps him out for a while we need a better right back.
You are right Steve and I think Maidstone is his level too
Weren't Maidstone in league 2 then or am I mistaken?
Not when Seaman was there
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
He’s not a right back and never will be his defensive qualities are not up to standard. When he played at Maidstone he was always in an midfield attacking role. If Knoyles injury keeps him out for a while we need a better right back.
You are right Steve and I think Maidstone is his level too
Weren't Maidstone in league 2 then or am I mistaken?
You're mistaken, Spud.
Maidstone haven't been in the EFL for a long time.
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
He’s not a right back and never will be his defensive qualities are not up to standard. When he played at Maidstone he was always in an midfield attacking role. If Knoyles injury keeps him out for a while we need a better right back.
You are right Steve and I think Maidstone is his level too
Weren't Maidstone in league 2 then or am I mistaken?
You're mistaken, Spud.
Maidstone haven't been in the EFL for a long time.
Heard you went to watch them in the EFL for your 60th. :thumbsup:
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Regardless of his position he's shown us nothing to suggest he's capable of playing at the level we require. It's probably a loan option because nobody would take him permanently.
Shame really as when he first arrived (after being out on loan for a year) big things were envisaged for him, that it didn't take off could be a result of arriving in a team that was beat before it went on the field, coupled with him never seeming to be match fit due to injury or general conditioning( always looked like he could shed a stone to me)
When he did play it looked like he was better suited to a more attacking role be it a wing back in a five or a wide player.
Could get a chance if Knoyle is still not ready but it looks like his longer term future will be elsewhere. If we cant get a better full back than Knoyle on the money we are prepared to spend then i would keep him.
He’s not a right back and never will be his defensive qualities are not up to standard. When he played at Maidstone he was always in an midfield attacking role. If Knoyles injury keeps him out for a while we need a better right back.
You are right Steve and I think Maidstone is his level too
Weren't Maidstone in league 2 then or am I mistaken?
You're mistaken, Spud.
Maidstone haven't been in the EFL for a long time.
Heard you went to watch them in the EFL for your 60th. :thumbsup:
Cheeky f*cking whippersnapper.
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Anderson out, others hopeful;
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/key-doncaster-rovers-defender-ruled-out-of-northampton-town-trip-3819707
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Not sure whether this is now happening but McSheffrey said Taylor and Close would play some part in the game against Newcastle u21s. You have to read between the lines, but doesn’t look from that like Close is there yet. Actually Taylor sounds like he’s not on an altogether straight recovery path either.
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Just listened to Radio Sheffield GMC interview Taylor is the only one that is close there are two more doing their own programs on grass but are weeks away.
Knoyle and Long could be available for Saturday but will be checked tomorrow. So they could be ready or we are not letting anybody know if they are not.
Anderson seeing a specialist with his back next week.
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Ah, I see. Looks like another set back for Close then. A week or so ago aim was the Newcastle game but sounds like October now then.
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Just listened to Radio Sheffield GMC interview Taylor is the only one that is close there are two more doing their own programs on grass but are weeks away.
Knoyle and Long could be available for Saturday but will be checked tomorrow. So they could be ready or we are not letting anybody know if they are not.
Anderson seeing a specialist with his back next week.
So Close is Schroedinger's Close? Both Close and not close at the same time?
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Ah, I see. Looks like another set back for Close then. A week or so ago aim was the Newcastle game but sounds like October now then.
Ah, but which October?
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Anderson out, others hopeful;
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/key-doncaster-rovers-defender-ruled-out-of-northampton-town-trip-3819707
Total confidence in playing Bobby from the start on Saturday by the sounds of it! Great for the lad & well deserved!
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Bobby won’t let anybody down, whether that be centre back or right back. On Seaman you can’t write the guy off, he needs opportunities just as the others do. I wouldn’t say he’s a full back though, you could get away with him playing wing back.
Anderson was bound to have a few niggles, the condition he has flares up like that, and will have caused instabilities in other parts of the body. Close is as the song said ‘ Closer than Close!.
He must be really frustrated, I think most of us are, I just want to see him playing regularly for us. A really good player having a bad time at the minute.
The injuries are giving us an opportunity to look at some players, that might not have got games. It’s up to those players to make themselves first choice picks when others return.
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Faulkner looked decent Saturday. Hylton will be an experience for him mind.
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Long, Barlow and Taylor training with the group.
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2022/august/gallery--rovers-put-through-their-paces-ahead-of-northampton-trip/
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Andrews as returned to Birmingham with a tendinitis issue. We will here next week how he is.
Can the loan contract be cancelled if he’s going to be out for some time not saying I want it.
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That is an issue actually given Griffiths has gone very quiet and there is nobody else who could replace Miller down the centre.
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That is an issue actually given Griffiths has gone very quiet and there is nobody else who could replace Miller down the centre.
Griffiths was given months out though. I wouldn’t expect updates until he’s nearing his expected return date.
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That is an issue actually given Griffiths has gone very quiet and there is nobody else who could replace Miller down the centre.
Agard
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I guess that’s right. He always seems to drift out wide, but no reason he can’t play through the centre.
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Is Griffiths injured?
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Yep did his ankle in the FC United of Manchester game