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Title: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: SydneyRover on August 28, 2022, 11:22:15 am
DNA match many senior members of the VSC it is alleged.

''Archaeologists and volunteers make find at what may be one of UK’s best-preserved deserted medieval villages''

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/28/suspected-medieval-alehouse-unearthed-east-yorkshire

Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: ravenrover on August 28, 2022, 03:30:14 pm
SS probably had a pint in there as a youth
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Post by: roversdude on August 28, 2022, 05:20:49 pm
DW was on the door
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Post by: IDM on August 28, 2022, 05:50:57 pm
Isn’t it where BB had his retirement do? :whistle:
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Post by: Panda on August 28, 2022, 05:59:05 pm
I actually prefer that part of yorkshire to the more 'illustrious' areas such as the Dales or Moors.

The Yorkshire Wolds are the most beautiful, serene and undiscovered part of Yorkshire IMO. As long as you avoid Hull which is the part that spoils east Yorkshire, i think East Yorks is the best of the 4 ridings.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: ravenrover on August 28, 2022, 08:22:01 pm
Panda, sorry but there are only 3 Ridings
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Panda on August 28, 2022, 09:18:41 pm
Panda, sorry but there are only 3 Ridings

Really?

I didn't know that. East, West and North definitely. Does West Riding also include South Yorkshire then?
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: ravenrover on August 28, 2022, 09:31:34 pm
Yep
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Post by: Sprotyrover on August 28, 2022, 09:58:57 pm
There are 7 Deserted medieval villages in Doncaster all abandoned after the Bubonlc Plague in 1348.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: drfchound on August 28, 2022, 10:46:43 pm
There are 7 Deserted medieval villages in Doncaster all abandoned after the Bubonlc Plague in 1348.

This got me thinking sproty so I googled for a couple of minutes and came up with “21 abandoned Yorkshire villages”.
Look it up, really interesting.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Panda on August 28, 2022, 10:52:28 pm
Cadeby?
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Panda on August 28, 2022, 10:52:51 pm
One near Cadeby i think?
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: idler on August 28, 2022, 11:07:14 pm
Panda, sorry but there are only 3 Ridings

Really?

I didn't know that. East, West and North definitely. Does West Riding also include South Yorkshire then?
I think the term riding comes from the old Norse word for third. I’m sure that I read that somewhere.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 28, 2022, 11:40:58 pm
Cadeby?
Wildthorpe near Cadeby,,Skirlsthorpe near Newton/cusworth,Cusworth in a field between the Hall and current village,Scawsby was at the x roads on Barnsley road,The Radcliffe moat,Scawthorpe, Frickley, the church is still in the field where the village stood,and an abandoned moat between Arksey and Bentley.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: roversdude on August 29, 2022, 03:36:51 am
We have some fascinating local history - I keep meaning to buy the local Sprotbrough book when it’s out
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Donnywolf on August 29, 2022, 08:11:38 am
Panda, sorry but there are only 3 Ridings

Really?

I didn't know that. East, West and North definitely. Does West Riding also include South Yorkshire then?
I think the term riding comes from the old Norse word for third. I’m sure that I read that somewhere.


You did .... And dead right ... and Wakefield County town of WR , Northallerton NR and Beverley ER

There was a very big telly series called South Riding in the past but I never saw it

Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: i_ateallthepies on August 29, 2022, 08:12:03 am
Stainforth  :whistle:
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: ravenrover on August 29, 2022, 09:50:00 am
Always wondered about about the remains of a "castle" in the fields between Scawthorpe and Highfields. Growing up as a nipper in Scawthorpe we always went playing up there. As I understood it thete was no such place as Scawthorpe back in the day and came into being when the Council and Pit developed the housing. Anyone know if that is correct or not?
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 29, 2022, 11:16:44 am
Scawthorpe is not in Domesday whereas Langthwaite where the motte and Bailey and The Radcliffe moat were!
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 29, 2022, 11:23:04 am
There is a plot of rough land next to St James church high Melton, I suspect it was a mass burial site for plague victims. At leat 25% of the then population 4 million to 3 million. Labourers wages also Quadrupled.
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Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 29, 2022, 11:30:22 am
 :suicide:
Stainforth  :whistle:
Don't knock Stainforth. Folk come every year from there in their droves to Bentley for their annual holiday, especially when the Gyro to Sterling exchange rate is favourable.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 29, 2022, 12:48:40 pm
There is a Motte and Bailey  in between Cusworth and Sprotbrough in the woods between the Mototway and Twisted Knot
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Panda on August 29, 2022, 01:46:27 pm
There is a Motte and Vailey in between Cusworth and Sprotbrough in the woods between the Mototway and Twisted Knot

Didn't know that. Those fields between Cussy and Sproggy were my playground in my youth and didn't come across anything. Any visible signs of this SR?
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 29, 2022, 02:06:56 pm
There is a Motte and Vailey in between Cusworth and Sprotbrough in the woods between the Mototway and Twisted Knot

Didn't know that. Those fields between Cussy and Sproggy were my playground in my youth and didn't come across anything. Any visible signs of this SR?
No idea where the Twisted Knot is? As you come under the motorway on the footpath from the end of Cussy big lake, turn right heading almost along the motorway, in the woods on a slope there was something that always looked like old foundations/mounds.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: turnbull for england on August 29, 2022, 05:45:31 pm
:suicide:
Stainforth  :whistle:
Don't knock Stainforth. Folk come every year from there in their droves to Bentley for their annual holiday, especially when the Gyro to Sterling exchange rate is favourabl

Misspelt Gyro,.  Should be a p where the y is
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Bentley Bullet on August 29, 2022, 05:49:48 pm
Gpro?
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 29, 2022, 06:16:14 pm
There is a Motte and Vailey in between Cusworth and Sprotbrough in the woods between the Mototway and Twisted Knot

Didn't know that. Those fields between Cussy and Sproggy were my playground in my youth and didn't come across anything. Any visible signs of this SR?
No idea where the Twisted Knot is? As you come under the motorway on the footpath from the end of Cussy big lake, turn right heading almost along the motorway, in the woods on a slope there was something that always looked like old foundations/mounds.
Yes that’s the location location linked to one of the contenders for the real Robin Hood.allegedly born at Skelbrooke manor.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: drfchound on August 29, 2022, 06:24:39 pm
Gpro?

It might be an old English word.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: roversdude on August 30, 2022, 02:52:37 am
There is a Motte and Vailey in between Cusworth and Sprotbrough in the woods between the Mototway and Twisted Knot

Didn't know that. Those fields between Cussy and Sproggy were my playground in my youth and didn't come across anything. Any visible signs of this SR?
No idea where the Twisted Knot is? As you come under the motorway on the footpath from the end of Cussy big lake, turn right heading almost along the motorway, in the woods on a slope there was something that always looked like old foundations/mounds.
Yes that’s the location location linked to one of the contenders for the real Robin Hood.allegedly born at Skelbrooke manor.

Will have to check that out thanks Sproty- how have you coped with the road closure ?
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: i_ateallthepies on August 30, 2022, 09:12:06 am
This map is from 1890 and in the southeast corner shows the site of a castle, right where you describe the ruins.

https://maps.nls.uk/view/125649373 (https://maps.nls.uk/view/125649373)
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Ldr on August 30, 2022, 09:19:59 am
Get a copy of “The making of South Yorkshire” by David Hey
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 30, 2022, 12:16:50 pm
Stainforth  :whistle:
Stainforth,Fishlake, Hatfield and Thorne came under the huge Anglo Saxon estate of Conisborough, there was a lake in between Fishlake and Hatfield and another in between Hatfield and Thorne.
Thorne could sustain 200 people, plus they caught 100,000 Eals
A year and the Deer hunt would mean every person mustered onto the moor and beat the brush driving the Deer into the lake where the hunters sat in punts would pick the animals they wanted and spear them in the water.
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on August 30, 2022, 12:42:02 pm
:suicide:
Stainforth  :whistle:
Don't knock Stainforth. Folk come every year from there in their droves to Bentley for their annual holiday, especially when the Gyro to Sterling exchange rate is favourable.

....  lest we forget  The Hindu worshippers that can't afford the air fare to flock to the banks of the Ganges in India's West Bengal that are reduced to doing the same at The Stainforth & Keadby Canal ...................... bathing in the water
Title: Re: Suspected medieval alehouse unearthed in east Yorkshire
Post by: Donnywolf on August 31, 2022, 07:47:06 am
Stainforth  :whistle:
Stainforth,Fishlake, Hatfield and Thorne came under the huge Anglo Saxon estate of Conisborough, there was a lake in between Fishlake and Hatfield and another in between Hatfield and Thorne.
Thorne could sustain 200 people, plus they caught 100,000 Eals
A year and the Deer hunt would mean every person mustered onto the moor and beat the brush driving the Deer into the lake where the hunters sat in punts would pick the animals they wanted and spear them in the water.

Going back a bit further " Manuscript in a Red Box" is a belting book. Set around the time of the drainage of Isle of Axholme which the King wanted but residents didn't

Vermuyden came along and off they went but it's great for the look into how they lived with the area being tidal etc