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Title: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Dabby on December 02, 2022, 07:07:54 pm
Tommy Rowe returns, while Adam Clayton and Max Woltman are also included in the starting XI.

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Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 02, 2022, 07:33:33 pm
So it could be 4 3 3 or 4321 or 4312 or plain  442  or is DS going to play TR at left side defender so we play 3 4 2. I
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 07:34:17 pm
Liverpool have had a word, he plays or he comes back.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 07:38:41 pm
Two up front would be good, GM would have less running to do.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 07:54:40 pm
This doesn't look good after 7 minutes:
Attacks
0
16
Shots On Target
0
0
Dangerous Att
0
5
Shots Off Target
0
0
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 07:58:51 pm
Better now
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 08:16:33 pm
Still no shot, on or off target at 30 minutes gone, worrying.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 08:23:33 pm
One goal from either side here and it could be game over, both poor at attacking.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 08:33:13 pm
45 minutes without a single shot on goal, "going in to see what we can do better", I will give them a guess!
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: CottyRover on December 02, 2022, 08:35:26 pm
Thanksforthe updates, Barmby. Is it really as dull as it sounds?
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: monkeytennis on December 02, 2022, 08:35:51 pm
Lacklustre so far from both teams. Williams’ passing is poor, keeps giving them the ball.

Rovers need to bring a lot more energy and belief to the second half.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2022, 08:38:20 pm
Woltman off and hurst on or move Tommy Rowe forward as pointless at left back, our passing and attacking play is so slow
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Thorney on December 02, 2022, 08:40:00 pm
Lacklustre so far from both teams. Williams’ passing is poor, keeps giving them the ball.

Rovers need to bring a lot more energy and belief to the second half.

Bit harsh on Williams there I think. He hasn't been bad on the ball, I've been critical of him in the past and think he should of been dropped but I say here and actually said to myself he has been fine tonight, but then he did give it straight away  :s

The midfield is the problem again. Not dominating. Struggle against any team with energy.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: monkeytennis on December 02, 2022, 08:43:24 pm
I feel like too many players get the ball then think ‘right, now what’ rather than having their next move or moves planned out.

When we go toward all too often we just stall and hold up instead of pressing ahead.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: SydneyRover on December 02, 2022, 08:49:36 pm
A bit tentative, reflecting where the teams are on the ladder.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2022, 08:56:27 pm
0-1
Williams left for dead … and they are 1 up.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 02, 2022, 08:57:19 pm
Just after we started the half well.

Need a response COYR
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 08:57:43 pm
Oh dear, I hope I was wrong earlier, but I am not optimistic here.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: SydneyRover on December 02, 2022, 08:57:56 pm
Williams was beaten far too easily and we had enough men in the box to defend that.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Thorney on December 02, 2022, 08:58:24 pm
What was Williams doing then
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: SydneyRover on December 02, 2022, 09:00:03 pm
Not a lot
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2022, 09:00:31 pm
We have no intention of attacking why is the manager so scared of conceding, get some pace on the pitch and Rowe further up the pitch how hard can it be
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2022, 09:02:13 pm
Game crying out for Hurst and Taylor.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 09:02:39 pm
To be fair to Walsall, if they try to shut up shop against us it should not be that difficult to hold out for 30 minutes or so. Sky now have us at 16/1 against winning.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 02, 2022, 09:02:53 pm
Another hour ticks by at home without a shot on target, pathetic.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Thorney on December 02, 2022, 09:03:24 pm
This is now 2 managers who seem to prefer to play tommy deeper.

Think we will have some more pressure around there box, can see them sitting back further. Agard to come on a get 1
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2022, 09:08:00 pm
We need one hell of a transfer window to really push on
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 09:09:48 pm
We need one hell of a transfer window to really push on


I love an optimist!
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2022, 09:13:31 pm
We need the manager to realise hurst is ten times the player that maxwell is at left midfield
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2022, 09:15:12 pm
Williams … an absolute liability. Get rid!! 0-2
He’s by far the weakest link in this side.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Prez on December 02, 2022, 09:15:15 pm
What a shambles we have become
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 09:15:34 pm
The last time I said game over when we went two down people said I was too pessimistic, we lost 3 - 0, sorry to tell the truth here, but game over.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Dutch Uncle on December 02, 2022, 09:16:00 pm
Olowu on for Williams please
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Canadian Rover on December 02, 2022, 09:16:13 pm
RSW joke of a defender.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: bpoolrover on December 02, 2022, 09:18:28 pm
RSW joke of a defender.
while your right the manager has to take the blame as he plays the same every week, had lots of hope for this manager but he no better than  gm at the minute
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Thorney on December 02, 2022, 09:19:37 pm
I was actually kinda singing his praises at half time. How does this defender still start every game. Faulkner must be pissing himself that he can't even get in the squad
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2022, 09:23:30 pm
Miss from Agard … six yards out and over the top!
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Canadian Rover on December 02, 2022, 09:24:12 pm
Faulkner is levels above RSW, Long is too. I know this is a controversial statement but RSW is the worst centre back I've seen for the Rovers (that has played multiple games). He's dreadful in the air, awful at passing, lacklustre in the tackle and seems to be getting slower by the day. It's safe to say I'm not his biggest fan.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Thorney on December 02, 2022, 09:25:12 pm
3 changes and not 1 that is to help Rowe get further up the field. We'll tommy looks like your a defender from now on.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: ScillyRover on December 02, 2022, 09:26:59 pm
Faulkner is levels above RSW, Long is too. I know this is a controversial statement but RSW is the worst centre back I've seen for the Rovers (that has played multiple games). He's dreadful in the air, awful at passing, lacklustre in the tackle and seems to be getting slower by the day. It's safe to say I'm not his biggest fan.
The sad, frustrating thing is, it’s been obvious for a long time, Williams is just not good enough.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 09:33:32 pm
Is Faulkner going to stay though?
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: goalkick on December 02, 2022, 09:36:10 pm
Better team than us look way faster than us and more eager to create something and as for Williams enough has been said all season but he still plays.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Barmby Rover on December 02, 2022, 09:38:32 pm
4 more matches to go this month, how many points? Not many with this form.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Thorney on December 02, 2022, 09:42:23 pm
4 more matches to go this month, how many points? Not many with this form.

Be surprised I we get 1 with the way we are at the moment
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: SydneyRover on December 02, 2022, 09:48:54 pm
We didn't look cohesive and lacked penetration. Rowe made some good link play up the left hand side but we gave the ball away far too easily and had it taken away from us too often. Williams could be excused sort of for the first goal, we should have defended it better but for the second there was no excuse.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: glosterred on December 02, 2022, 10:06:57 pm
That was back to the bad old days of last season. Poor from front to back and a definite lack of urgency at times, especially in the last few minutes.

It’s going to be a long long season if this level of performance continues.


Onwards and upward


COYR
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: Dagenham Rover on December 02, 2022, 11:07:02 pm
Too lethargic, lots of pretty patterns with the passes, Pass backwards more often than England, and why does nobody actually run into the oppositions penalty area we are always trying to chip or pass  it in from the edge of the box so predictable 
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: drfchound on December 02, 2022, 11:34:12 pm
45 minutes without a single shot on goal, "going in to see what we can do better", I will give them a guess!

Not quite true mate, we had two shots in the last minutes before half time.
One nice move led to a shot being deflected over the bar for a corner, then from the corner a shot (I think by Close) was headed off the line by a defender.
Shots blocked by defenders don’t count in the stats as being shots on target, even if they are on target.
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: CottyRover on December 03, 2022, 12:03:35 am
Well, that was 13 days on the training ground well spent
Title: Re: Rovers v Walsall
Post by: andy didcott on December 03, 2022, 08:34:04 am
Walked out on 75th minute, dont recall doing that in about 37 years of watching rovers, always stayed until the final whistle.