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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: phil old leake on December 03, 2022, 02:03:07 pm

Title: Emma Raducanu
Post by: phil old leake on December 03, 2022, 02:03:07 pm
She has recently been awarded an MBE for services to tennis

She is a good tennis player who did great to win an open championship which not many achieve

Since then she has not done a great deal

I am seriously struggling to see ‘Services to Tennis’

This is the type of award you maybe get awarded towards the end of a long illustrious career not after 1 and a bit seasons

I’m a supporter of the awards scheme when awarded to people who deserve it but I am really struggling with this one

It would be interesting to get other peoples views
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: Branton Red on December 03, 2022, 02:07:44 pm
Thoroughly deserved.

British Grand slam tennis champion are as rare as hens teeth.

Her achievement was outstanding and should serve as an inspiration.

Correctly recognised.
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: danumdon on December 03, 2022, 02:31:50 pm
Great achievement to win a grand slam for anyone never mind a British player.

Whilst i would love this award to serve as an inspiration to her and others i hope its not her last. Recent form may be an indication but i hope the bright lights and myriad distractions don't taint this young prospect.
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 03, 2022, 03:06:14 pm
Awards for sporting achievement should, I feel, only be given at the end of a career that's proved to be a good example for others to follow. The way things are, one day there's going to be someone given a knighthood one year then the next year embarrass the country and their title by failing a drugs test.
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: Branton Red on December 03, 2022, 03:27:50 pm
Awards for sporting achievement should, I feel, only be given at the end of a career that's proved to be a good example for others to follow. The way things are, one day there's going to be someone given a knighthood one year then the next year embarrass the country and their title by failing a drugs test.

Including for truly outstanding achievements such as Radacanu's?

Wouldn't stripping a disgraced sportsperson of their previously awarded title give extra deserved bad publicity and help strongly highlight our society's disdain for cheating?
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 03, 2022, 04:42:30 pm
No, it would give the impression that the award was tainted and gained by cheating. Not a good look, and more embarrassing for the award giver than the recipient. It would cheapen any awards given to other sportspeople who weren't cheats.

And Linford Christie wasn't stripped of his award after he failed a drugs test when he should have been.
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: wilts rover on December 04, 2022, 03:07:42 pm
Prominent ex-British Olympic cyclist reportedly arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault. No idea who this is but if they were a member of the track team there is a good chance they won a medal - and an award after it.

Just goes to show before or after retirement, being good at sport will not guarantee you are a decent person and deserving of an honour.

https://twitter.com/roadcc/status/1599383572321689602
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 04, 2022, 04:57:51 pm
Whilst that isn't great, any offences in that case are in a field outwith of that for which any award might have been given. When the reason for the awarding of an honour is directly undermined and gives the impression that it was awarded under false pretences I think it'd more of a problem.

Imagine if Lance Armstrong had been British and been given an honour for winning just one Tour de France, as British cyclists have...
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: BobG on December 11, 2022, 09:49:30 pm
'Lifetime of service' used to be the rule. Now? Transient, temporary and knee jerk.

BobG
Title: Re: Emma Raducanu
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 12, 2022, 10:37:53 am
'Lifetime of service' used to be the rule. Now? Transient, temporary and knee jerk.

BobG

I think it's more a case of governments trying not to look out of touch and courting easy popularity more than anything else. If it gets much worse one day we'll see winners of Strictly or I'm A Celebrity getting knighthoods...