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Title: GAME OFF
Post by: Filo on December 17, 2022, 09:33:46 am
Frozen pitch
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: scawsby steve on December 17, 2022, 09:45:30 am
That's how it goes. After building up some impetus last week, with the opportunity of a very possible 3 points today, we now have an enforced matchless spell, and we all know how that goes.

I'm now expecting a pumping at Tranmere on Boxing Day.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Upton Rover on December 17, 2022, 09:53:42 am
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Campsall rover on December 17, 2022, 09:59:15 am
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: NigelJ on December 17, 2022, 10:00:01 am
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
It evidently WAS hard, that's why the game is off.

It is the length of the cold spell, rather than a single night of -5 that has done for most of today's postponements.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: ravenrover on December 17, 2022, 10:03:45 am
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Any excuse to knock the club heh!
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: eastender on December 17, 2022, 10:09:40 am
The game could have been called off at 5pm last night, there was never going to be any change in the Pitch condition between then an 9 this morning.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Draytonian III on December 17, 2022, 10:18:05 am
It’s been called off before 10.00 on the day of the match, yes like others I’m disappointed but better now than say 12.30 when the majority of people would be making final preparations or even travelling.
We should install under soil heating, expensive to install and run when the money could be used for player budgets.
I hope everyone now enjoys a lovely Saturday being dragged around the shops for the right bit of tinsel or the special mince pies that Auntie Flo likes
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: rover-n-out on December 17, 2022, 10:25:35 am
Just go to Morrison's Draytonian, and pick up a couple of pack's of their "The Best" mince pies, they're magic, your auntie Flo will love 'em! As for the tinsel, bah, just shread some tin foil up! Sorted. Sit back and enjoy the rest of yer day mate!
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 17, 2022, 10:32:18 am
We lose at most one game a year due to frost. Under soil heating not an expense we need to worry about. It’s a minor annoyance but not anything that make a material difference to anything. Some weather cancellations are down to roads and paths being iced, so under soil wouldn’t stop those games being off.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 17, 2022, 10:43:58 am
Ha ha, yes. Undersoil heating which we might need how many times a season?? And, as said above, it's no guarantee games would still be on.

I wonder how many would put it in their top ten spending priorities?

At least it's not such a f*ck up as the postponed Leeds game all those years ago when pubs were still forced to stay shut despite the postponement of the game!
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: glosterred on December 17, 2022, 10:58:59 am
Every season we go through this when we get a game called off because to the cold weather, people coming on here say we should install unsoiled heating. As people have said it’s expensive to install and run. If I remember correctly a few years ago it was approximately £5000 a week to run, well with the vast increase in electricity prices it ain’t going to be any cheaper now. So all those wanting install, how many of you are going to put your hand in your pocket and pay for it? My guess is non of you


COYR
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on December 17, 2022, 11:09:14 am
Every season we go through this when we get a game called off because to the cold weather, people coming on here say we should install unsoiled heating. As people have said it’s expensive to install and run. If I remember correctly a few years ago it was approximately £5000 a week to run, well with the vast increase in electricity prices it ain’t going to be any cheaper now. So all those wanting install, how many of you are going to put your hand in your pocket and pay for it? My guess is non of you


COYR

It'd be quicker and cheaper to unfreeze the pitch if those using the weather to knock the club went to the ground and donated their unwanted hot air to thawing it out. We'd never need to postpone a match again!
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Goole Rover on December 17, 2022, 12:37:42 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Any excuse to knock the club heh!
Well Raven at least they’re off Southgate’s back or could they blame him for the weather ?
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 17, 2022, 12:44:52 pm
Barrow game is still on. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Upton Rover on December 17, 2022, 12:50:24 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
That’s not needed, we put flimsy 3mm covers on the pitch with the hope that frost will not penetrate the grass surface, may as well not bother, we need covers that will do the job and can be sourced from a company called matchsaver, big English clubs use them on their training  grounds and they do the job, Surely worth the investment, how much revenue would we lose today, compared to playing in on a Tuesday night in January/February?
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Upton Rover on December 17, 2022, 12:51:30 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
It evidently WAS hard, that's why the game is off.

It is the length of the cold spell, rather than a single night of -5 that has done for most of today's postponements.
So why have a 10am inspection on the day of the game?
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: adamtherover on December 17, 2022, 01:18:16 pm
Just been on the back lawn, which was solid this morn, and it's fairly soft, north of Doncaster, have they made a decision too soon?
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: ChrisBx on December 17, 2022, 01:36:07 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
It evidently WAS hard, that's why the game is off.

It is the length of the cold spell, rather than a single night of -5 that has done for most of today's postponements.
So why have a 10am inspection on the day of the game?

It's most likely up to the ref as to when they have the inspection.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 17, 2022, 01:51:08 pm
Barrow game is still on. Fair play to them.

Coastal. Typically 3-4 degrees warmer than inland in winter.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: ravenrover on December 17, 2022, 02:46:25 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
That’s not needed, we put flimsy 3mm covers on the pitch with the hope that frost will not penetrate the grass surface, may as well not bother, we need covers that will do the job and can be sourced from a company called matchsaver, big English clubs use them on their training  grounds and they do the job, Surely worth the investment, how much revenue would we lose today, compared to playing in on a Tuesday night in January/February?
Big English clubs can afford to have them on their training pitches. How many times a year would we need covers normally?
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 17, 2022, 03:32:32 pm
You'd need long studs today very soft and wet out on the fields
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Upton Rover on December 17, 2022, 04:10:58 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
That’s not needed, we put flimsy 3mm covers on the pitch with the hope that frost will not penetrate the grass surface, may as well not bother, we need covers that will do the job and can be sourced from a company called matchsaver, big English clubs use them on their training  grounds and they do the job, Surely worth the investment, how much revenue would we lose today, compared to playing in on a Tuesday night in January/February?
Big English clubs can afford to have them on their training pitches. How many times a year would we need covers normally?
If its just needed once, then it’s worth it, I remember a few games lost when we were in the Championship
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 17, 2022, 04:21:36 pm
We're in league 2 if it's 5k a week to run then that money could go on 3 top league 2 players
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: glosterred on December 17, 2022, 05:17:12 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
That’s not needed, we put flimsy 3mm covers on the pitch with the hope that frost will not penetrate the grass surface, may as well not bother, we need covers that will do the job and can be sourced from a company called matchsaver, big English clubs use them on their training  grounds and they do the job, Surely worth the investment, how much revenue would we lose today, compared to playing in on a Tuesday night in January/February?
Big English clubs can afford to have them on their training pitches. How many times a year would we need covers normally?
If its just needed once, then it’s worth it, I remember a few games lost when we were in the Championship

At over 5 grand a week to run are you willing to pay for it? At approx 100 grand to install, are you willing to pay for it. At the level, DRFC, are playing it is not financially viable for the Rovers to install and run. When we are back in the championship and earning a lot money from gate and tv then it may be worth while at the moment it ain’t, unless you are going to dig into your own pocket and pay for it.


COYR
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: elmsallrover on December 17, 2022, 05:40:15 pm
To be honest it should have been installed when the stadium was built
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Upton Rover on December 17, 2022, 05:50:03 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
That’s not needed, we put flimsy 3mm covers on the pitch with the hope that frost will not penetrate the grass surface, may as well not bother, we need covers that will do the job and can be sourced from a company called matchsaver, big English clubs use them on their training  grounds and they do the job, Surely worth the investment, how much revenue would we lose today, compared to playing in on a Tuesday night in January/February?
Big English clubs can afford to have them on their training pitches. How many times a year would we need covers normally?
If its just needed once, then it’s worth it, I remember a few games lost when we were in the Championship

At over 5 grand a week to run are you willing to pay for it? At approx 100 grand to install, are you willing to pay for it. At the level, DRFC, are playing it is not financially viable for the Rovers to install and run. When we are back in the championship and earning a lot money from gate and tv then it may be worth while at the moment it ain’t, unless you are going to dig into your own pocket and pay for it.


COYR
I haven’t mentioned under soil heating, purpose made sheeting would do the job, not the silly sheets the ground staff use, they only work with temperatures to a maximum of -3
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: IDM on December 17, 2022, 06:47:31 pm
Shit happens, get over it..
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: The Red Baron on December 17, 2022, 07:39:51 pm
That's how it goes. After building up some impetus last week, with the opportunity of a very possible 3 points today, we now have an enforced matchless spell, and we all know how that goes.

I'm now expecting a pumping at Tranmere on Boxing Day.

Tranmere didn't play today either and haven't won in the League since 14th October.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Draytonian III on December 17, 2022, 08:19:00 pm
It’s been called off before 10.00 on the day of the match, yes like others I’m disappointed but better now than say 12.30 when the majority of people would be making final preparations or even travelling.
We should install under soil heating, expensive to install and run when the money could be used for player budgets.
I hope everyone now enjoys a lovely Saturday being dragged around the shops for the right bit of tinsel or the special mince pies that Auntie Flo likes


I was being sarcastic about the under soil heating, like most on here I think it would be a total waste of money.
 Did a bit of shopping today but I couldn’t find the tinsel but I did find the correct mince pies in Yum Yums all I need now is an Auntie Flo
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 17, 2022, 08:30:05 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
That’s not needed, we put flimsy 3mm covers on the pitch with the hope that frost will not penetrate the grass surface, may as well not bother, we need covers that will do the job and can be sourced from a company called matchsaver, big English clubs use them on their training  grounds and they do the job, Surely worth the investment, how much revenue would we lose today, compared to playing in on a Tuesday night in January/February?
Big English clubs can afford to have them on their training pitches. How many times a year would we need covers normally?
If its just needed once, then it’s worth it, I remember a few games lost when we were in the Championship

At over 5 grand a week to run are you willing to pay for it? At approx 100 grand to install, are you willing to pay for it. At the level, DRFC, are playing it is not financially viable for the Rovers to install and run. When we are back in the championship and earning a lot money from gate and tv then it may be worth while at the moment it ain’t, unless you are going to dig into your own pocket and pay for it.


COYR
I haven’t mentioned under soil heating, purpose made sheeting would do the job, not the silly sheets the ground staff use, they only work with temperatures to a maximum of -3

I'm sure I'm not in a minority that thinks if it's that cold I don't want to be watching football outside regardless of the pitch.
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 17, 2022, 08:46:36 pm
They should be no cancellation at these lower league clubs in the 21st century, other than snow, if a club can’t cope with -5 temperatures then they need to learn how to get over the issue, not that hard.
Under soil heating is the answer.
It’s not cheap to install.
Are you going to donate the money to the Club?
That’s not needed, we put flimsy 3mm covers on the pitch with the hope that frost will not penetrate the grass surface, may as well not bother, we need covers that will do the job and can be sourced from a company called matchsaver, big English clubs use them on their training  grounds and they do the job, Surely worth the investment, how much revenue would we lose today, compared to playing in on a Tuesday night in January/February?
Big English clubs can afford to have them on their training pitches. How many times a year would we need covers normally?
If its just needed once, then it’s worth it, I remember a few games lost when we were in the Championship

At over 5 grand a week to run are you willing to pay for it? At approx 100 grand to install, are you willing to pay for it. At the level, DRFC, are playing it is not financially viable for the Rovers to install and run. When we are back in the championship and earning a lot money from gate and tv then it may be worth while at the moment it ain’t, unless you are going to dig into your own pocket and pay for it.


COYR
I haven’t mentioned under soil heating, purpose made sheeting would do the job, not the silly sheets the ground staff use, they only work with temperatures to a maximum of -3

I'm sure I'm not in a minority that thinks if it's that cold I don't want to be watching football outside regardless of the pitch.
Must admit, I wasn't too disappointed when it was called off today. I think I'm getting nesh in my old age!
Title: Re: GAME OFF
Post by: since-1969 on December 17, 2022, 11:11:16 pm
That's how it goes. After building up some impetus last week, with the opportunity of a very possible 3 points today, we now have an enforced matchless spell, and we all know how that goes.

I'm now expecting a pumping at Tranmere on Boxing Day.
[/quote In times where funds are tight and clubs can do without games being called off at the last minute for bad weather , there should be provision to play on the Sunday where practical and possible!!