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Title: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: selby on December 20, 2022, 03:36:43 pm
  The boxing day fixture, followed a few days later v Rochdale two of our oldest foes and never easy, Tranmere like us not playing last weekend will want to get back on Track (we are good at getting teams back on track, one of our strengths) not having won a league game in the last six, drawing three and losing three, and without a win in the last nine in all competitions.
  So not two great sides meeting, and with Rochdale completing the group of three teams the Covid era, and their insistence over that time running the clubs sustainably now seems to have affected all three disproportionally to other clubs who carried on spending money they didn't have.
   Tranmere came down in  that period when falling foul to the points system when looking like in the form to get well away from relegation if the season had been completed so very unlucky and have found it difficult since.
  They usually play the all action in their faces game we always find difficult to play against in recent times, but in ten league games on home soil have only scored seven goals, which is another thing that teams having difficulty with we tend to help them out with and get them back on track scoring goals.
  So we have to break our bad habits to get a result, and after the Newport result us the supporters and the players should be looking to build on what was a decent performance and in the end a good result, but against a side that didn't show a lot against us and I expect a harder test Boxing Day.
  Our injury problems seem to be starting to be in a better place, so the squad could well see additions of players coming back from injury, which is good news after missing so many in the first half of the season.
  How do you see it playing out?
  Do you expect changes to the side that played at Newport?
  Can this be the start of a little run of Victories after the Newport game?
  Are you going to the game?
  Can Danny out think Mickey Mellon tactically?
  Lots to discuss about this game, please have your say.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 20, 2022, 03:46:38 pm
They are on a very poor run. Haven’t won in last 10 and only scored 6 times in those 10 games. They haven’t scored in their last 3 home league games or won in their last 4 home league games. Which is odd as they had previously won 5 league games on the bounce before this latest run.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 20, 2022, 03:54:02 pm
They are on a very poor run. Haven’t won in last 10 and only scored 6 times in those 10 games. They haven’t scored in their last 3 home league games or won in their last 4 home league games. Which is odd as they had previously won 5 league games on the bounce before this latest run.
Well done CBcb you have just given us the kiss of death AGAIN.

Please, please pack it in.  :crying:    :)
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: ravenrover on December 20, 2022, 04:22:48 pm
They are on a very poor run. Haven’t won in last 10 and only scored 6 times in those 10 games. They haven’t scored in their last 3 home league games or won in their last 4 home league games. Which is odd as they had previously won 5 league games on the bounce before this latest run.
Guaranteed 3-0  home win then!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Campsall rover on December 20, 2022, 05:05:00 pm
Anderson and Olowu both have to play if 100% fit.

I don’t see Knoyle and Rowe as centre backs.
If we play 3 centre backs then Knoyle and Rowe wing backs.
I know Seaman played well at Newport but it has to be Knoyle for me in that position.
I don’t think Tommy Rowe should be shoe horned into the team. If DS wants Maxwell at full back or wing back then maybe TR has to go on the bench.
Or do we leave out Clayton, Biggins or Close, and play TR in midfield.
Clayton out possibly but not the other 2 no way imo.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: bpoolrover on December 20, 2022, 06:59:28 pm
Saw on official site all tickets for this match need collecting before 12 noon on Friday in case anyone missed it
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Scooter on December 20, 2022, 10:00:47 pm
Saw on official site all tickets for this match need collecting before 12 noon on Friday in case anyone missed it

Thanks. I’ll go through Thursday to buy mine
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on December 25, 2022, 03:58:16 pm
Looking at Tranmere’s 4 most recent You Tube videos - Grimsby, Carlisle, Wimbledon and Northampton, you might be rather more depressed than we have been with our Rovers performances. Their defending is half-hearted and there is not much bite about their attack. Their goal against Grimsby came when the opposition goalkeeper kicked his clearance straight at a Tranmere player and ricocheted into the net! They give away penalties despite seeming to be generally averse to tackling in the penalty area and they miss the penalties they are awarded. So they are at a really low ebb and look genuinely poor.

Let’s hope that we will get some pace and penetration from the start. It’s time we saw more evidence of expert coaching and improved training to improve stamina and speed.

It would be so good to have something to really get excited about for a change. There hasn’t been much since those John-Jules/Richards goals and those runs by Sims and Taylor are fading away, a distant memory.

 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Scooter on December 25, 2022, 09:39:38 pm
Anyone got any good car parking tips? I have read there is a car park at the ground for 7 quid but I am a Yorkshireman.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Janso on December 26, 2022, 12:15:33 am
Went when Ramsey scored a few and there was quite a bit of street parking a few minutes away.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: selby on December 26, 2022, 10:52:22 am
We desperately need a result out of this game and the Rochdale game, get  points and it could be pivotal to the rest of the season and project us into play off places  with things to play for the rest of the season.
  Fail and it is a long way back, we need to put a good run of results together now to keep supporter interest and turn the clubs future around.
   A very important period ahead.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2022, 11:14:44 am
Brian, I have spoken to quite a few Rovers fans over the last few weeks and the apathy is already there with plenty of them.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: mushRTID on December 26, 2022, 11:20:40 am
Any pub suggestions pre match, been ages since I have been Tranmere. Cheers
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: selby on December 26, 2022, 11:56:40 am
  Yes Hound I know, but experience tells me a lot of them are ruled by the moon and easily coerced back into the fold and get giddy with a few wins on the board.
  It seems the modern way, just hangers on to winners with no real connection to clubs just wallowing in the glory of supporting winning team.
  Pity about the airport really. it must be hard for the Real Madrid and Barcelona supporters.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: scawsby steve on December 26, 2022, 02:27:08 pm
Brian, I have spoken to quite a few Rovers fans over the last few weeks and the apathy is already there with plenty of them.

Totally agree, mate, and it's not just Rovers. Since Covid, and especially now with the war in Ukraine and the cost of living crisis, the life seems to be getting sucked out of all of us, in every possible way.

Look at this forum; it's died a death in the last few weeks. It's as though no-one can be bothered any more.

I honestly don't know what the answer is.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: selby on December 26, 2022, 02:43:05 pm
 A run of ten games without defeat Steve, works every time.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 26, 2022, 02:44:01 pm
Rowe out again. Griffiths back in the squad.

That leaves Younger, Olowu and Faulkner the long term injured. Potentially Rowe depending on his current injury.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 26, 2022, 02:49:41 pm
Rowe now picking up injuries like sweets..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on December 26, 2022, 03:06:27 pm
Rowe now picking up injuries like sweets..

Rowentrees ????
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 26, 2022, 03:20:10 pm
Taylor taken off injured after 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: bpoolrover on December 26, 2022, 03:45:56 pm
If this is how schofield wants to play please go now
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Butchers Red on December 26, 2022, 03:50:35 pm
I now understand why he let Faulkner out on loan - he put's a tackle in and plays the ball forwards.

How many times have we seen the ball sat in our own half with absolutely no urgency, desire or intent to attack - it's pathetic.

And this is how they are after 14 days of "getting plenty of training into them and learning what he's trying to teach"
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Chris Black come back on December 26, 2022, 03:51:22 pm
Whether he wants to play like this or only has the players to play like this, it is dreadful. Slow passing out from back, no pace or urgency anywhere, then long ball hoofed up to Miller. It's the same every single time without fail.

Slow, slow, even slower, lose possession. It's the rhythm of our game these days.

And of course, we concede and go behind yet again. Absolutely terrible defensive unit.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on December 26, 2022, 03:59:21 pm
Where is the evidence of good coaching or super-fitness that we are told about? Knocking it around at the back then the long ball upfield with the home side showing more energy regaining possession almost every time. We lose almost every fifty-fifty ball. The home crowd are even jeering our back-passing!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: selby on December 26, 2022, 04:05:01 pm
  They have got Long spotted as the weakness most attacks going down our left side and just a matter of time before they got behind.
  The mid field once again just short balls and not showing for the ball, we are too easy to play against and poor in a lot of positions, Millar feeding off scraps and wide players rarely getting a pass forward.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Butchers Red on December 26, 2022, 04:05:27 pm
Tranmere look equally shocking - if he cannot change things 2nd half then the writing's on the wall for us this season. I've never, ever seen a Rovers side putting in fewer challenges than this and just going through the motions no passion,no desire nothing
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Chris the Rover on December 26, 2022, 04:06:31 pm
It is so boring to watch. Total lack of urgency all over the pitch. I was really looking forward to this game but am starting to wish I hadn’t bothered. Just hope we show more spirit and oomph in the second half.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: bpoolrover on December 26, 2022, 04:35:20 pm
The defence and midfield don’t actually know what there doing
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Butchers Red on December 26, 2022, 04:38:00 pm
I feel for the poor sods that have gone there today - by a mile the worst, most inept,gutless display I have even seen from my team in 55 years.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: colincramb on December 26, 2022, 04:38:33 pm
Absolutely disgraceful this performance
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: colincramb on December 26, 2022, 04:41:48 pm
I’d love to know how many games we’ve lost by 3+ goals in the past 2 years?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: goalkick on December 26, 2022, 04:43:43 pm
There is nothing to look forward to as we are stuck to picking a team from what we have. Clear out needed at end of season.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Colin C No.3 on December 26, 2022, 04:45:17 pm
They are on a very poor run. Haven’t won in last 10 and only scored 6 times in those 10 games. They haven’t scored in their last 3 home league games or won in their last 4 home league games. Which is odd as they had previously won 5 league games on the bounce before this latest run.
Guaranteed 3-0  home win then!

I hope you had a bet on!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: bpoolrover on December 26, 2022, 04:48:35 pm
Bring gm back
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: selby on December 26, 2022, 05:06:13 pm
  Merry Christmas everyone
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on December 26, 2022, 05:16:02 pm
Taking Seaman off who had at least shown some endeavour and replacing him with RS Williams sums up Mr Schofield. Beyond that individual decision, how can he justify such a pathetic performance? It illustrates what he also failed to do at Huddersfield, a fundamental inability to turn his coaching and fitness regime into even a moderately competent on-the-pitch performance. Although it is difficult to believe this game suggests that we seem to have deteriorated noticeably in skill and tactics under his leadership.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: Donnywolf on December 26, 2022, 05:23:30 pm



  The boxing day fixture, followed a few days later v Rochdale two of our oldest foes and never easy, Tranmere like us not playing last weekend will want to get back on Track (we are good at getting teams back on track, one of our strengths) not having won a league game in the last six, drawing three and losing three, and without a win in the last nine in all competitions.
 

You should have stopped at end of first paragraph

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Tranmere Rovers game
Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2022, 05:31:08 pm
A run of ten games without defeat Steve, works every time.

I can’t see that happening any time soon mate.