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Title: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Dabby on December 26, 2022, 02:06:21 pm
Danny Schofield makes three changes to his side for the Boxing Day game.

(https://i.imgur.com/YgdTTWL.jpg)
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 26, 2022, 02:25:01 pm
Tommy Rowe injured or ill ??
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Post by: Lytham Rover on December 26, 2022, 02:35:59 pm
No Williams?
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Post by: EasyforDennis on December 26, 2022, 02:37:38 pm
No Williams?

On the bench were he deserves to be.
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Post by: scawsby steve on December 26, 2022, 02:41:41 pm
So Anderson, Long, and Taylor in; Williams and Rowe out. Who was the other one from the win at Newport?
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 26, 2022, 02:42:17 pm
No Williams?
He’s on the bench and Knoyle will be playing right of the three as I believe we will play that with Long on the left.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 26, 2022, 02:42:56 pm
So Anderson, Long, and Taylor in; Williams and Rowe out. Who was the other one from the win at Newport?
Woltman?
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: scawsby steve on December 26, 2022, 02:45:41 pm
I've got it. It was Woltman. Not even on the bench today.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 26, 2022, 03:05:38 pm
Sat watching at home with another sickness bug. Started quite well.
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Post by: Donny Dub on December 26, 2022, 03:09:08 pm
Good start by Rovers.  No one to  put the chances away though.
Their commentary keeps talking about ‘Rovers’ but means Tranmere - confusing.
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Post by: Metalmicky on December 26, 2022, 03:11:43 pm
Good start by Rovers.  No one to  put the chances away though.
Their commentary keeps talking about ‘Rovers’ but means Tranmere - confusing.

We're all Rovers aren't we....?
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 03:16:36 pm
Taylor coming off injured. Hurst on.
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Post by: Batleyred on December 26, 2022, 03:17:54 pm
Taylor was plain unlucky with that
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 26, 2022, 03:19:58 pm
He's jinxed!
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 03:26:32 pm
Ref playing a blinder … Not!!
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Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 26, 2022, 03:28:28 pm
Really good first 2 minutes. Non affair since for both teams.
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 03:39:25 pm
I think Mitchell has had 90% possession in this game. Unbelievably slow in distribution and thinking.
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Post by: goalkick on December 26, 2022, 03:39:59 pm
Tranmere getting on top now.
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 03:41:50 pm
This is just dreadful to watch. We haven’t got a clue.
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Post by: Copps is Magic on December 26, 2022, 03:43:21 pm
You've got to be a real purist to watch this.
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Post by: EasyforDennis on December 26, 2022, 03:44:02 pm
Gaz Roberts on the Tranmere commentary and very complimentary to us as a club. He can't understand why we keep slowing the play down especially Mitchell......He's not the only one
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Guernsey Exile on December 26, 2022, 03:46:12 pm
Piss
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Post by: The Beast on December 26, 2022, 03:46:25 pm
1-0 Tranmere
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Post by: Scooter on December 26, 2022, 03:47:04 pm
What an awful side we have become.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on December 26, 2022, 03:47:08 pm
 :huh:
Good start by Rovers.  No one to  put the chances away though.
Their commentary keeps talking about ‘Rovers’ but means Tranmere - confusing.

We're all Rovers aren't we....?
They think it's all Rovers.... Hurst on...  :huh:
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 03:47:14 pm
1-0 to Tranmere. We look like we had far too much turkey and booze yesterday. And yes, I know they were in training yesterday but we look so lethargic.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Prez on December 26, 2022, 03:48:18 pm
Infuriating this is. Even Tranmere fans taking the piss out of our back passes. Deserve to be losing. Dreadful tactics from us.
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Post by: rich1471 on December 26, 2022, 03:49:16 pm
This is shocking, terrible first half of football
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Post by: Filo on December 26, 2022, 03:51:09 pm
Another shite half of football
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 03:51:56 pm
Some Rovers ‘fans’ booing at HT. That first half was on par with our poorest performances so far this season. Running out of ways to describe just how bad we’ve become.
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 26, 2022, 03:52:54 pm
And you can't blame Williams!
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Canadian Rover on December 26, 2022, 03:53:58 pm
If I was manager I'd continue with the tactic of playing the ball backwards to Mitchell and for him to boot the ball within 20 yards of Hurst to compete in the air. Just because it fails 9,999 times of of 10,000 doesn't mean it won't ever work
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: anton123 on December 26, 2022, 03:54:05 pm
Clayton off for Molinux surly we are far to slow with him in that midfield, why play 3 holding midfielders ?
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Spud on December 26, 2022, 03:54:27 pm
Back, sideways, back, Anderson pump it forward to Miller, shite.
Where's the urgency? Where's the midfield? Got exactly what we deserve so far
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Silkscarf on December 26, 2022, 03:54:33 pm
Well that was utter tripe.
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Post by: monkeytennis on December 26, 2022, 03:55:24 pm
Are we all looking forward to Thursday eve?
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Post by: Canadian Rover on December 26, 2022, 03:56:32 pm
Clayton off for Molinux surly we are far to slow with him in that midfield, why play 3 holding midfielders ?

I'd actually go with Seaman to be subbed. Play with 4 at the back, 3 in central midfield with 2 wide players supporting Miller.

Not entirely sure why he continues with a FIVE at the back system (it's not a 3)
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: andyst79 on December 26, 2022, 03:56:39 pm
Looked good first few minutes when we got at them, then retreated into our shell and slowed the game down. Awful
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Post by: EasyforDennis on December 26, 2022, 03:58:25 pm
 How many times have we said "well that was awful/shocking/dreadful" this season?
I can understand why Fielding is struggling to adapt to this way of playing. Maybe he isn't bad enough cos this lot are shite.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 26, 2022, 03:58:40 pm
Fell asleep after about 25 mins, that about sums it up after a good start.  Not really sure why we struggle to dictate midfield so much.
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Post by: roversdude on December 26, 2022, 03:59:03 pm
And you can't blame Williams!

It’s a wonder he hasn’t got the blame for it DBR
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: goalkick on December 26, 2022, 04:01:32 pm
Goal been coming for a while. Tranmere far better team.  Why are we so slow and lethargic and show no movement in midfield. This passing about at the back is ridiculous. We will have much of the same for the rest of the season with the team we have.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Filo on December 26, 2022, 04:02:02 pm
I said it at the time and I stand by it, Schofield wasn’t the man to take us forward, we are getting worse every time we play
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: andyst79 on December 26, 2022, 04:02:35 pm
Fell asleep after about 25 mins, that about sums it up after a good start.  Not really sure why we struggle to dictate midfield so much.
Probably due to the fact Clayton can't run and Close can't tackle for starters
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Thorney on December 26, 2022, 04:02:42 pm
Don't understand why Kyle Knoyle who has been our biggest threat going forward up the right hand side this season has been changed to a more defensive role.

Just so slow with no attacking threat.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Colin C No.3 on December 26, 2022, 04:03:55 pm
Mitchell rolls it out to Anderson, Anderson takes a touch looks up, turns & passes it back to Mitchell.

Mitchell rolls it out to Anderson, Anderson takes a touch looks up, turns & passes it back to Mitchell……& repeat.

6, 10, 12 times?
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Post by: Lesonthewest on December 26, 2022, 04:04:51 pm
Absolutely shocking football. We have no idea, what has the current 'manager' implemented, it's no better than the previous one. Abysmal.
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Post by: EasyforDennis on December 26, 2022, 04:06:28 pm
Has Biggins touched the ball yet? Or did I miss it?
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: goalkick on December 26, 2022, 04:07:23 pm
Williams is part of a poor squad that we unfortunately have if he plays or not.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 26, 2022, 04:18:02 pm
We need better center midfield players we have since Whiteman left and nothings changed. We bring in what we can afford they are not good enough.
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Post by: Metalmicky on December 26, 2022, 04:18:40 pm
2:0
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 04:19:28 pm
2-0
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Post by: monkeytennis on December 26, 2022, 04:19:39 pm
2:0

Jesus.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Filo on December 26, 2022, 04:20:17 pm
f**king rubbish another team not won for ages and we gift them the game
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Metalmicky on December 26, 2022, 04:20:52 pm
2:0

Jesus.

No........ Kieron Morris
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 04:21:39 pm
Clayton off for Molly. About 15 minutes too late.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 26, 2022, 04:22:52 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
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Post by: Spud on December 26, 2022, 04:26:09 pm
Tough blow that, we'd started the half much better.
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Post by: Cramby10 on December 26, 2022, 04:27:12 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
you would expect the manager to work out a game plan with the players he has however. Not think he’s Pep managing Barca. This obsession with passing/possession is folly with this squad. If this is the type of football he is serving up, do we want him to have the transfer window?
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: monkeytennis on December 26, 2022, 04:27:23 pm
It doesnt seem to matter who is in charge does it? The same pedestrian unthreatening football delivered week in week out.
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Post by: Lesonthewest on December 26, 2022, 04:30:20 pm
We can't even create anything at 0-2 with the home sitting back having a brew.
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 26, 2022, 04:32:19 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
you would expect the manager to work out a game plan with the players he has however. Not think he’s Pep managing Barca. This obsession with passing/possession is folly with this squad. If this is the type of football he is serving up, do we want him to have the transfer window?

What? He shouldn't have a transfer window to bring in players to better suit his way of playing because of his current way of playing?
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Thorney on December 26, 2022, 04:32:44 pm
This is atrocious.
Gone 2-0 down and don't show any attacking threat or try to look like putting tranmere under pressure, and may I add a poor tranmere at that.

This is up there with the worst style of play for many seasons.
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Post by: Padge_DRFC on December 26, 2022, 04:34:21 pm
Worrying he thinks Seaman is good.
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 04:34:58 pm
Things are looking up … Williams on :))
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Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 04:36:40 pm
3-0
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Post by: adamtherover on December 26, 2022, 04:36:48 pm
3 nil ffs
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Post by: Filo on December 26, 2022, 04:37:08 pm
How pathetic have we become?
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Post by: Metalmicky on December 26, 2022, 04:37:36 pm
I don't want to watch hoof football, but from my understanding of the game, you can't score if you don't try and have a shot at the white rectangle type object at the opposite end of the pitch.....
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Post by: Tommy A on December 26, 2022, 04:38:00 pm
Things are looking up … Williams on :))

"WIlliams with his first touch heads it upin the air"  :suicide:
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Prez on December 26, 2022, 04:38:04 pm
We have got yet another fraud of a manager. How the hell is this acceptable?
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: ScillyRover on December 26, 2022, 04:38:50 pm
Schofield, if he had anything about him should come out and apologise for this abject display … utterly inexcusable.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Cramby10 on December 26, 2022, 04:39:24 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
you would expect the manager to work out a game plan with the players he has however. Not think he’s Pep managing Barca. This obsession with passing/possession is folly with this squad. If this is the type of football he is serving up, do we want him to have the transfer window?

What? He shouldn't have a transfer window to bring in players to better suit his way of playing because of his current way of playing?
yes, as it’s shocking. 1 up front and playing at snails pace is not for us. We’re in League 2 for crying out loud. Last 4 managers have tried it and it hasn’t worked. God only knows why we thought this equally inexperienced chap would be any different.
Hand on heart, and I say this with a straight face, I’d take Steve Evans tomorrow.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Canadian Rover on December 26, 2022, 04:40:22 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
you would expect the manager to work out a game plan with the players he has however. Not think he’s Pep managing Barca. This obsession with passing/possession is folly with this squad. If this is the type of football he is serving up, do we want him to have the transfer window?

What? He shouldn't have a transfer window to bring in players to better suit his way of playing because of his current way of playing?

Looking at the bigger picture it's not an horrendous statement. The fans that questioned the appointment now question giving him a transfer window. Really they are sticking to their guns because DS hasn't convinced them otherwise, actually he's compounded their negative thoughts on his appointment.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: andyst79 on December 26, 2022, 04:42:39 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
you would expect the manager to work out a game plan with the players he has however. Not think he’s Pep managing Barca. This obsession with passing/possession is folly with this squad. If this is the type of football he is serving up, do we want him to have the transfer window?

What? He shouldn't have a transfer window to bring in players to better suit his way of playing because of his current way of playing?
yes, as it’s shocking. 1 up front and playing at snails pace is not for us. We’re in League 2 for crying out loud. Last 4 managers have tried it and it hasn’t worked. God only knows why we thought this equally inexperienced chap would be any different.
Hand on heart, and I say this with a straight face, I’d take Steve Evans tomorrow.
I'd look to play direct and master picking up the 2nd ball in this division.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 26, 2022, 04:43:23 pm
If I didn't know better, this is like watching a very poor Conference side. Absolutely appalling.
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Post by: bobbymax on December 26, 2022, 04:44:43 pm
One can't really underestimate just how bad this squad is, or how we've somehow managed to appoint another manager who doesn't understand what's required to get out of League 2.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 26, 2022, 04:45:46 pm
Any chance of a shot on target lads, tell you what I'll settle for creating something. Never have I seen a team so devoid of ideas.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: andyst79 on December 26, 2022, 04:47:37 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
you would expect the manager to work out a game plan with the players he has however. Not think he’s Pep managing Barca. This obsession with passing/possession is folly with this squad. If this is the type of football he is serving up, do we want him to have the transfer window?

What? He shouldn't have a transfer window to bring in players to better suit his way of playing because of his current way of playing?

Looking at the bigger picture it's not an horrendous statement. The fans that questioned the appointment now question giving him a transfer window. Really they are sticking to their guns because DS hasn't convinced them otherwise, actually he's compounded their negative thoughts on his appointment.

It's concerning that he's had weeks on the training ground to come up with this crap. Our 2 main attacking threats in Hurst & Molyneux on the bench & knoyle at cb
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on December 26, 2022, 04:49:02 pm
The balance of the squad is all wrong.  Hurst, Maxwell, Long, Seaman are not players who should be playing week in week out they're development players.  Schofield's hinted at that aswell before. Fundamentally I don't think any manager could get these playing top three football.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Canadian Rover on December 26, 2022, 04:51:30 pm
The balance of the squad is all wrong.  Hurst, Maxwell, Long, Seaman are not players who should be playing week in week out they're development players.  Schofield's hinted at that aswell before. Fundamentally I don't think any manager could get these playing top three football.
Top 3 football? We are playing bottom level football.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: EasyforDennis on December 26, 2022, 04:51:39 pm
So it goes on is it really all these managers fault. Let’s see who we can afford to sign loan or permanent in January then we will see what level of player we get.
you would expect the manager to work out a game plan with the players he has however. Not think he’s Pep managing Barca. This obsession with passing/possession is folly with this squad. If this is the type of football he is serving up, do we want him to have the transfer window?

What? He shouldn't have a transfer window to bring in players to better suit his way of playing because of his current way of playing?
yes, as it’s shocking. 1 up front and playing at snails pace is not for us. We’re in League 2 for crying out loud. Last 4 managers have tried it and it hasn’t worked. God only knows why we thought this equally inexperienced chap would be any different.
Hand on heart, and I say this with a straight face, I’d take Steve Evans tomorrow.
I'd look to play direct and master picking up the 2nd ball in this division.

I would prefer us to master picking up the 1st ball
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: steve@dcfd on December 26, 2022, 04:51:54 pm
If we question the appointment then we should be questioning Copps  Role he wanted him. He’s involved in getting players to the club. What i question why we continue to play 343 all the time.
We haven’t got the players to play it. Any way let it continue nothing going to change we have what we’ve got from the top of the club through to the players poor
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: anton123 on December 26, 2022, 04:52:50 pm
The balance of the squad is all wrong.  Hurst, Maxwell, Long, Seaman are not players who should be playing week in week out they're development players.  Schofield's hinted at that aswell before. Fundamentally I don't think any manager could get these playing top three football.
Top 3 football ? Christ don’t think any 1 is asking for that now but god it needs to be better then this
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: vaya on December 26, 2022, 04:53:53 pm
The balance of the squad is all wrong.  Hurst, Maxwell, Long, Seaman are not players who should be playing week in week out they're development players.  Schofield's hinted at that aswell before. Fundamentally I don't think any manager could get these playing top three football.

It's to some extent a legacy of the churn of managers over the last couple of years. There's multiple transfer windows with no consistent long term vision involved in them.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 26, 2022, 04:54:00 pm
Schofield, if he had anything about him should come out and apologise for this abject display … utterly inexcusable.

If he doesn't come out, tell it how it is, & not talk bo--ox, he'll go down in my estimation, this has been inexcusable & a total embarrassment.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: dickos1 on December 26, 2022, 04:54:12 pm
The squad we have is the same squad we had under mcsheffrey and we all know these players aren’t good enough.
So it is ludicrous to slag this manager when he hasn’t signed one player yet
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 26, 2022, 04:57:27 pm
The squad we have is the same squad we had under mcsheffrey and we all know these players aren’t good enough.
So it is ludicrous to slag this manager when he hasn’t signed one player yet

Nobody has 'slagged' the manager though have they.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: goalkick on December 26, 2022, 05:00:46 pm
Looking forward to the managers comments on the match as I can’t think what excuses he can possibly give.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Filo on December 26, 2022, 05:08:18 pm
Looking forward to the managers comments on the match as I can’t think what excuses he can possibly give.

His buzz word fundamentals
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Silkscarf on December 26, 2022, 06:36:43 pm
The fundamentals are we’re a bag of shit.
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: dickos1 on December 26, 2022, 08:02:26 pm
The squad we have is the same squad we had under mcsheffrey and we all know these players aren’t good enough.
So it is ludicrous to slag this manager when he hasn’t signed one player yet

Nobody has 'slagged' the manager though have they.

Plenty of people saying he’s not good enough yeah
You can’t have read much of this forum tonight
Title: Re: Tranmere v Rovers
Post by: Lesonthewest on December 26, 2022, 10:15:28 pm
The squad we have is the same squad we had under mcsheffrey and we all know these players aren’t good enough.
So it is ludicrous to slag this manager when he hasn’t signed one player yet

Nobody has 'slagged' the manager though have they.

Plenty of people saying he’s not good enough yeah
You can’t have read much of this forum tonight
Lol, there's a difference in saying he's not good enough, & slagging him off, your words, yeah!