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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: mushRTID on December 26, 2022, 05:34:07 pm
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Looked like he was sarcasticly clapping the fans at the end.
After his performance as well. Cheeky bugger.
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Hope not
He's an absolute shadow of the player he once was and needs to go but he's always been 100% rovers.
He must realise that the fans are well within their rights after that joke of a performance
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1st time in 40 years i have left a game early, totally garbage do they practice the chuckle brothers routine in training and not to mention the cost to me with 2 grandsons ☹☹
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Out of all his passes today, it felt as though 80% of them were backwards. Everytime he received the ball his body shape was all set up to just passing back to Mitchell.
Truly horrendous tactics.
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Out of all his passes today, it felt as though 80% of them were backwards. Everytime he received the ball his body shape was all set up to just passing back to Mitchell.
Truly horrendous tactics.
He will be playing to instruction. No doubt about that.
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I totally agree, hence me saying horrendous tactics. It wasn’t just Anderson though.
It summed it up when we got a free kick around the 40 min mark, on the half way line. What happened?? We just ended up playing it back to Mitchell. Even the Tranmere fans were laughing.
Truly embarrassing.
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Hope not
He's an absolute shadow of the player he once was and needs to go but he's always been 100% rovers.
He must realise that the fans are well within their rights after that joke of a performance
But he has players, playing alongside him behind him and directly in front of him that are really below the level he was used to be playing with.
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Anderson is past it mate
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Hardly any movement in front of him at times so he either goes back and start again in possession or go long and we lose it
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Hardly any movement in front of him at times so he either goes back and start again in possession or go long and we lose it
There were numerous occasions when Anderson had the ball with lots of space in front of him to run forward into (especially first half).
Almost every time he refused this and just whacked it forward.
He was shocking today.
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Hardly any movement in front of him at times so he either goes back and start again in possession or go long and we lose it
There were numerous occasions when Anderson had the ball with lots of space in front of him to run forward into (especially first half).
Almost every time he refused this and just whacked it forward.
He was shocking today.
Has the manager considered playing central midfielders across the whole defensive line?
Seeing as how, under his tactics, centre halves are seemingly tasked with being the teams' ball players.
Perhaps a central midfielder in goal too??
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Worst game I’ve seen him have in a rovers shirt. Pumping forward Hail Mary passes to Miller that their centre halves snuffed out easily.
The regular back and forth passing with Mitchell was bizarre even if it was to instruction. Redolent of a lower league side playing for time in a cup tie.
Got one booking and could have had another. Nowhere near their player for their third.
Struggling to find a positive from him today.
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Anderson as never been a ball player even at his best. But without Anderson and Williams as they keep getting called useless and not good enough. Who have we got against Newport in the managers 3 he play one centre half . With the players we’ve got we can’t play 343. Has he got the money to go out and sign 3/4 good players who can play his system. No as we’ve still got to pay the wages of the players we got or are ECO Power doing that now. So we can blame the players and rightly so but what’s the manager and Copps the HOF doing with their judgements about our team. There is no progression from top to bottom of the club.
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You can only sign what you can afford to sign!
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Let's hope he uses his fingers to organise that defence instead of putting them up at fans in the next match.
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Taken from Free Press
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‘Easy’ says a Tranmere fan, whose side had not won in 10 games before today and struggle to score. He’s not wrong.
That was dreadful from Doncaster. Tom Anderson gives the fans what looks like a sarcastic applause then makes a rude gesture before walking down the tunnel. Other players and staff keep their distance. Supporters understandably upset at that display and the decline of their club more generally.
Not good enough. A fourth 3-0 defeat of the season.
If that bits correct its totally unacceptable behaviour from him and he needs pulling by management and as my lad saw it Ive no reason to doubt the accuracy of the report
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Taken from Free Press
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‘Easy’ says a Tranmere fan, whose side had not won in 10 games before today and struggle to score. He’s not wrong.
That was dreadful from Doncaster. Tom Anderson gives the fans what looks like a sarcastic applause then makes a rude gesture before walking down the tunnel. Other players and staff keep their distance. Supporters understandably upset at that display and the decline of their club more generally.
Not good enough. A fourth 3-0 defeat of the season.
If that bits correct its totally unacceptable behaviour from him and he needs pulling by management and as my lad saw it Ive no reason to doubt the accuracy of the report
Club Captain as well, needs to apologise, he should be setting an example
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Probably get slated but I can understand him being pissed off. I doubt any of them want to lose and I'd react if I got abuse aswell.
On the same vein it doesn't feel like he wants to be here and I'd genuinely consider trying to move him on, it'd be good for us and him.
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Should of been moved on after his contract expired rather then given another, a shadow of his former self, the coaching he's now subject to is doing him no favours whatsoever.
Shame, but as a club we cannot afford to carry passengers in leadership roles, as we now evidently have a youngish side scattered with the remnants of previous good, experienced players who now cannot play consecutive matches we need to offload and reset.
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We took up the extension the clubs choice not the player. They did it because they believed he had overcome is problem and were hoping to get a transfer fee for him my belief.
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He, they put in a performance like that & he makes a gesture (as club captain) to 600 travelling Rovers supporters who have turned up on a freezing cold Boxing Day, shame on him.
He’s a shadow of the player he was before his injury lay off.
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Probably get slated but I can understand him being pissed off. I doubt any of them want to lose and I'd react if I got abuse aswell.
On the same vein it doesn't feel like he wants to be here and I'd genuinely consider trying to move him on, it'd be good for us and him.
I bet several of them are pissed off and don’t like losing but there are ways to manifest that and swearing at fans is not one of them.
The guy’s club captain. He should behave in a way that befits that. If he’s done what’s being reported that should be it for him.
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It could also be that like all of us he was well and truly pi**ed off with the performance of the side and himself personally.
Frustration can get the better of us on here without sanction, he as a senior player, one who has been at the club when it has performed to a far better standard and probably cares more than most is allowed to feel frustrated with it all but should never display it in that manner to the fans.
Lets all hope some home truths were laid out on the table and the players have the capacity to strive for better from this.
None of them could honestly say they left that field after expending every last ounce of energy, grit and determination to succeed.
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It could also be that like all of us he was well and truly pi**ed off with the performance of the side and himself personally.
Frustration can get the better of us on here without sanction, he as a senior player, one who has been at the club when it has performed to a far better standard and probably cares more than most is allowed to feel frustrated with it all but should never display it in that manner to the fans.
Lets all hope some home truths were laid out on the table and the players have the capacity to strive for better from this.
None of them could honestly say they left that field after expending every last ounce of energy, grit and determination to succeed.
Good post.
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It could also be that like all of us he was well and truly pi**ed off with the performance of the side and himself personally.
Frustration can get the better of us on here without sanction, he as a senior player, one who has been at the club when it has performed to a far better standard and probably cares more than most is allowed to feel frustrated with it all but should never display it in that manner to the fans.
Lets all hope some home truths were laid out on the table and the players have the capacity to strive for better from this.
None of them could honestly say they left that field after expending every last ounce of energy, grit and determination to succeed.
It could also be that like all of us he was well and truly pi**ed off with the performance of the side and himself personally.
Frustration can get the better of us on here without sanction, he as a senior player, one who has been at the club when it has performed to a far better standard and probably cares more than most is allowed to feel frustrated with it all but should never display it in that manner to the fans.
Lets all hope some home truths were laid out on the table and the players have the capacity to strive for better from this.
None of them could honestly say they left that field after expending every last ounce of energy, grit and determination to succeed.
“….should never express it to those fans in that way ever..”.
Exactly & end of.
Would he have compression over & ‘expressed his frustration’ in that manner if his family had been in that section of fans? I very much doubt it & why?
Because he would have been disrespecting their support also. As well as having to explain to his wife & younger members of his family what that ‘hand gesture’ he made to them/us meant?
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Lot of rubbish here
If you’ve just played a game and bean beaten comfortably then you’re walking off the pitch and getting abused by your own fans then if there’s anything about you you will react.
Simple as that
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The fans are the biggest and most important part of any club , but in the Uk this seems to almost always be overlooked, Anderson needs to come out and apologise of the club should rip up his contract as he will never be accepted by lots of fans if he thinks his actions were ok .
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Let’s be fair, we cannot stand the vast majority of these jokers playing for us currently and I don’t doubt for a second that that feeling is now reciprocated by them. I bet most can’t wait to get out just as we can’t wait to get rid. There’s only Faulkner, Miller and Rowe I’d be sorry to lose. The divide between the players/coaches and the fans has been getting wider and wider since McCann left. To the point that now it feels like a gaping chasm.
That’s why the latest managerial appointment was so vitally important. And yet again we f**ked it up right royally. We needed a figurehead to motivate and galvanise the players and fans not a boy out of coaching school with fancy words.
The value of a united club cannot be underestimated. This, we are not!
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If Anderson and Mitchell do the ‘to me, to you’ routine on Thursday they will definitely get a reaction from the crowd.
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The fans are the biggest and most important part of any club , but in the Uk this seems to almost always be overlooked, Anderson needs to come out and apologise of the club should rip up his contract as he will never be accepted by lots of fans if he thinks his actions were ok .
The fans are part of a club no doubt. But the manager, playing staff, and board (investment) are the most important parts of the club. Fans are simply customers and will turn up if they like the product. And wont if they dont! Anderson is an employee and will no doubt be disciplined internally. You and me are not in a position to demand he should be sacked!! Nor should we be.
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Lot of rubbish here
If you’ve just played a game and bean beaten comfortably then you’re walking off the pitch and getting abused by your own fans then if there’s anything about you you will react.
Simple as that
And if you are a professional you resist that urge, simple as that.
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Lot of rubbish here
If you’ve just played a game and bean beaten comfortably then you’re walking off the pitch and getting abused by your own fans then if there’s anything about you you will react.
Simple as that
And if you are a professional you resist that urge, simple as that.
If you are a supporter then don’t abuse the players even if you don’t like the performance. If people are unhappy stop away. Numerous supporters are doing that now as they do not want to watch performances being produced.
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I just hope the creche don't start the get out of our club to Anderson
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Lot of rubbish here
If you’ve just played a game and bean beaten comfortably then you’re walking off the pitch and getting abused by your own fans then if there’s anything about you you will react.
Simple as that
It’s all about opinions & I think yours is bo**ox.
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Worst game I’ve seen him have in a rovers shirt. Pumping forward Hail Mary passes to Miller that their centre halves snuffed out easily.
The regular back and forth passing with Mitchell was bizarre even if it was to instruction. Redolent of a lower league side playing for time in a cup tie.
Got one booking and could have had another. Nowhere near their player for their third.
Struggling to find a positive from him today.
so what do you want him to do as there was hardly any movement from midfield unless they come really deep in line with back 3,so like you say was either pass back to Mitchell and start again and hope they close down to open more space in midfield or go long which we never won header or hardly any 2nd balls
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Lot of rubbish here
If you’ve just played a game and bean beaten comfortably then you’re walking off the pitch and getting abused by your own fans then if there’s anything about you you will react.
Simple as that
And if you are a professional you resist that urge, simple as that.
If you are a supporter then don’t abuse the players even if you don’t like the performance. If people are unhappy stop away. Numerous supporters are doing that now as they do not want to watch performances being produced.
Totally agree. Absolutely embarrassing hearing our own fans booing players. Stay quiet if you don’t think they deserve applause but don’t boo them off.
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Worst game I’ve seen him have in a rovers shirt. Pumping forward Hail Mary passes to Miller that their centre halves snuffed out easily.
The regular back and forth passing with Mitchell was bizarre even if it was to instruction. Redolent of a lower league side playing for time in a cup tie.
Got one booking and could have had another. Nowhere near their player for their third.
Struggling to find a positive from him today.
so what do you want him to do as there was hardly any movement from midfield unless they come really deep in line with back 3,so like you say was either pass back to Mitchell and start again and hope they close down to open more space in midfield or go long which we never won header or hardly any 2nd balls
Don't get me wrong, I'm not singling Anderson out. I thought every member of the team was poor on Monday. It's just that as one of the (few) leaders on the team I expected him to be a bit more pro-active in figuring out what might work. The keep ball with Mitchell followed by hitting it long seemed to baffle absolutely everyone in the ground, including the players.
I agree with your point about the midfield. Frequently static with virtually no one showing for the ball. Clayton occasionally picked it up deep before doing his quarter-back thing which mostly failed. Lots of jogging around, no real pace or dynamism. All hugely frustrating because I don't think Tranmere's midfield was that great. Had we had anyone half-combative we'd have bossed the middle of the park and there'd have been no need to bypass it.
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Anderson the main guest on You Tube tonight.
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Anderson the main guest on You Tube tonight.
Did he stick his middle finger up to the camera?
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The amount of stick the club are getting about this is a bit mad. It’s clearly been pre recorded before the Tranmere game.
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I haven’t watched it, but it was billed as live
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First few minutes they are only referring to the Newport game and the extra time on the training pitch as the Harrogate game was off.
No mention of Tranmere.
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The amount of times the players have been applauded off after spineless performances especially away from home, it's about time they got told what the people who spend their hard earned cash think, as for Anderson response, I wouldn't lose any sleep if he never played again (even though it would mean RSW playing) he's been w**k since covid, for someone with a physical presence like he has the amount of goals we concede from set pieces/crosses is f**king embarrassing.
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Play a centre half either side of Clayton if you want to play a back three. Let him be the one that brings the ball out. Clayton is ripe for dropping into a sweeper role. He hasn’t got the pace to play in midfield any more. He would benefit the side more in that role. Give young Ravenhill an opportunity in midfield, get a bit of energy in there.
I honestly believe if we were to play a three with Clayton as a ball playing libero, he would be a revelation back there. He isn’t a poor player, just the game is passing him by because the legs can’t do what they used to. We have two full backs who can carry a ball. We have two very good wingers. Miller would be top scorer in this league with the right service.
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Clayton always drops back in between the other two CBs anyway.
He plays deeper as the game goes on.
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Play a centre half either side of Clayton if you want to play a back three. Let him be the one that brings the ball out. Clayton is ripe for dropping into a sweeper role. He hasn’t got the pace to play in midfield any more. He would benefit the side more in that role. Give young Ravenhill an opportunity in midfield, get a bit of energy in there.
I honestly believe if we were to play a three with Clayton as a ball playing libero, he would be a revelation back there. He isn’t a poor player, just the game is passing him by because the legs can’t do what they used to. We have two full backs who can carry a ball. We have two very good wingers. Miller would be top scorer in this league with the right service.
Got to disagree with that regarding Clayton.
Can’t see the point in playing Clayton in a back 3. As has been said he virtually plays there now.
We are a better team without him because he slows the game down.
Thought he would be a big player this season but his legs have gone. We need pace and mobility.
Just look at how we played at Grimsby without him. ( came on after 70 odd mins ) but game was already won.
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That’s why he has been playing Rowe there so he can be the one thebrings the ball out,as for Anderson I haven’t a problem having ago go back at fans,thought the ones that had ago at him during the game were out of order personally.if your gonna have a go then wait till be end,but was mainly having ago for orders from schofield
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Clayton always drops back in between the other two CBs anyway.
He plays deeper as the game goes on.
My personal opinion is the performance’s have slipped since he’s been back in the side. We looked like we had more energy when it was just biggins and close in there with Molyneux in front of them
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Scored tonight!!!
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Well done tonight Tom. If fans give it you can't crybif the players give it back.
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How pathetic was the booing of Tom tonight?
Total morons, soon stopped when they realised there were more clapping than booing, and how ironic he got the winner
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Glad to see Anderson give the South stand some tonight,booing your own player during a home game is cretinous.Noticeable that the back play was tempered and that the ball was moved quicker, let the ball go for their third but made amends with his winner.
Regardless of the situation at Tranmere we need him firing because we have no one else.
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Glad he got his goal and a good pro... but it was only a very small section probably 10-15 at most and not all the South stand.
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How pathetic was the booing of Tom tonight?
Total morons, soon stopped when they realised there were more clapping than booing, and how ironic he got the winner
Pleased for him tbh. Any Muppet booing their own player wants to have a think, there's no justification in this case. It seems many are happy to call players whatever they like and expect no reaction.
Get real.
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Idiots and he made them look like right whoppers.
Agreed it was probably only 10-15 of them and more importantly I hope Tom knows that.
I do think a lot of this could have been nipped in the bud with a swift apology mind. Things happen in the heat of the moment.
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Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Rovers fan. Tonight was one of those times.
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Echo those sentiments boys. The minority morons went too far tonight. That's an all time low.
I'm never embarrassed by my club but sad to say I'm embarrassed by a section of idiots, maybe 30 of em', who should not dare not call themselves fans or supporters.
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I sat just off centre behind the goal tonight and it was quite a few more than just 15 booing.
It was coming from those spotty kids who like to stand up though and yes, the clapping of Tom did drown them out a bit.
Tom celebration was brilliant and was actually like putting fingers up to them without actually doing it.
As has been said, pathetic to boo your own players.
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Glad he got his goal and a good pro... but it was only a very small section probably 10-15 at most and not all the South stand.
definitely more than 10-15 idiots booing
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Well done Tom on the goal. Unfortunately we let in 3 goals. The defence is woeful and has been for a long time and you are supposed to be the top man in it.
We need better central defenders than we’ve seen for the past year or so. We shouldn’t be thinking Faulkner is our best one.
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Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Rovers fan. Tonight was one of those times.
You’re joking.
Try attending an away game against Rotherham to feel really ashamed to be a Rovers supporter.
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Sometimes I'm ashamed to be a Rovers fan. Tonight was one of those times.
You’re joking.
Try attending an away game against Rotherham to feel really ashamed to be a Rovers supporter.
Tonight was very close but for different reasons! How do we educated these people?
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Lot of rubbish here
If you’ve just played a game and bean beaten comfortably then you’re walking off the pitch and getting abused by your own fans then if there’s anything about you you will react.
Simple as that
It’s all about opinions & I think yours is bo**ox.
Nice one
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Am very critical of our current demise but booing Anderson first half is and was ridiculous. No matter if he reacted in frustration at the end of the Tranmere game, he's still our captain and best defender so to boo him was utterly ridiculous and a low. Glad he scored the winner, that was the best way to respond and do his talking on the pitch. Well done Tom!
On the pitch, very much papering over the cracks as another post has said.. a very poor second half but at least its nice to have a winning feeling over the Christmas period!
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Not a great interview from Danny. Listened to it twice, zero acknowledgement of the supporters or understanding of their frustrations - he does know we were relegated and knocked out of both cups already I assume? But at least "the girls in the kitchen" are positive. Worth having a listen to the BBC interview he speaks well but needs to address what is happening on the pitch.
Glad to see us win again tonight - Miller was horrendous but give me 11 of him every single time for effort!! He outworks ALL our other players.
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Not a great interview from Danny. Listened to it twice, zero acknowledgement of the supporters or understanding of their frustrations - he does know we were relegated and knocked out of both cups already I assume? But at least "the girls in the kitchen" are positive. Worth having a listen to the BBC interview he speaks well but needs to address what is happening on the pitch.
Glad to see us win again tonight - Miller was horrendous but give me 11 of him every single time for effort!! He outworks ALL our other players.
Sorry but I don't get that at all. I don't think there's much more he could have said and dealt with the Anderson issue when asked. He prefers to talk about positivity rather than get drawn in to negativity and bring himself down to our level.
This is a post match media interview not a nitty gritty discussion he likely has with Copps on a regular basis.
We have to take what he says with a pinch of salt and understand he's a passionate football coach from Hexthorpe although we do want to see that reflected on the pitch more often than not. He knows he's got work to do.
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Understood.
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The boo’ing wasn’t just confined to the South stand, there were idiots in the west stand as well, like many have said that it is shameful to boo your own player every time he touched the ball during the first half. Thankfully, after a few minutes it was drowned out by the clapping and cheering by the true Rovers fans. For me, he was actually one of the best players last night.
P.S. am I the only one thought it very two faced by those booing Tom in the first half to cheer him when he scored the winner? Oh, I know, you was cheering the team and not the player! Yeah right!
COYR
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Took me a while on Ifollow to wonder what the applause was ... seemed random till I realised it was to drown out the boos.
I'm with glosterred on this one
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I'm surprised at some of the comments about TA he has been a good player for us, to throw him on the scrap heap because he took an injury and not at his best is not a good look. Some of you may want to think about what your comments may be doing to the team and staff morale.
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Just seen that he was a the MOTM on the Twitter poll conducted by the club after yesterday’s game. Another middle finger to the idiots from the true fans
COYR
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Imagine going to a game and thinking up a “plan” to boo your own player from the kick off? Very sad.
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The booing was cringeworthy.
Glad Tom got the winner
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What stood out for me was the booing stopped when the clapping drowned them out, I’m sure they must have thought they were booing on behalf of everyone, but then realised what bellends they were, we must have the worst set of negative t**ts in the league, happy to give dogs abuse to anyone then when they get it back cry like a baby
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Think his goal shut the booers up, singling a player out like that totally not needed and quite embarrassing, think about it lads/ lasses and get behind your team, we’re meant to be on the same side.
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I really hope the Free Press do an article reflecting our comments condemning the behaviour towards Anderson.
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What we do know is that these people read these comments, but never defend them in here, they’d sooner stay in the safe haven of Twitter to spout b*llocks amongst their twitter followers and then claim they represent the majority, it’s usually orchestrated by a handful of individuals, is it was in the past with individuals that disappear when their disruptive actions don’t bear fruit
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I would also like to stop the thought it was just the kids - there were some 50+ year olds booing too :headbang:
If you can’t take it don’t give it, the players are passionate about the game and club, and will take the comments to heart - they are just human.
Booing during/after the game is fine with me, to show how you feel towards a teams efforts, singling people out, and going much further ( usually the case) is not fine.
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To right jmt23, some fans give abuse to the players for 90 minutes and then cry when they get it given back to them. If you cannot take it, don’t give it, they need to grow a pair or pull up their big girl pants and get on with it. You are also correct in stating it wasn’t just kids booing. In the west stand I’d say it sounded like a majority of “adults” who were doing the booing.
COYR
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I wasn’t there last night, I’ve been away but I watched it on Rovers Player and it sounded like a lot more than 10-15 people booing, so I was doubly pleased with Anderson scoring the winner.
For the record I’ve only ever booed one player and that was John Sheridan and that was because he didn’t try and hardly moved out the centre circle. Those who witnessed him will agree totally
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To right jmt23, some fans give abuse to the players for 90 minutes and then cry when they get it given back to them. If you cannot take it, don’t give it, they need to grow a pair or pull up their big girl pants and get on with it. You are also correct in stating it wasn’t just kids booing. In the west stand I’d say it sounded like a majority of “adults” who were doing the booing.
COYR
Because I was sat fairly close to the spotty faced brigade I can say with certainty that some of them were booing Anderson as he was celebrating his goal.
It was very faint due to the rest of us cheering the goal but it was happening.
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I wasn’t there last night, I’ve been away but I watched it on Rovers Player and it sounded like a lot more than 10-15 people booing, so I was doubly pleased with Anderson scoring the winner.
For the record I’ve only ever booed one player and that was John Sheridan and that was because he didn’t try and hardly moved out the centre circle. Those who witnessed him will agree totally
Can agree with the Sheridan sentiments.
Clearly thought that playing non-league was beneath him.
All the other "big nmaes" we had that first conference season (Southall,Nicol,etc) were model professionals.
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Newell. Didn’t break sweat once.