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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Upton Rover on January 07, 2023, 05:02:36 pm
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
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Keeper dreadful for the goal. Lobbed again! Miller is a headless chicken. Agard can't run. Reo forget about him never fit. Nothing up top
Defence I thought looked good. Let down by Mitchell big time.
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Mitchell definitely at fault for me. It wasn’t a venomous shot, it was a looping punt with not that much pace on it. Can’t be letting that in.
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Mitchell definitely at fault for me. It wasn’t a venomous shot, it was a looping punt with not that much pace on it. Can’t be letting that in.
Your having a laugh. It was a worldy.
There are a few of you on here that have decided you don’t like JM whatever he does.
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Whatever funds are available can we pleas try and get reinforcement before next Saturday. It sounds we did ok first half but run out of legs and idea it wasn’t a comfortable win and really I believe Mitchell should have saved their goal. Worldy it was not watch Mitchell’s movement as the ball goes out the area he takes two steps forward that meant he couldn’t get back with his out stretched hand.
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Don’t think Mitchell was at fault it was a wonder goal can’t blame him for conceding that!
As for George miller he desperately needs help up front but overall it just goes to show your not always better off getting rid of a good manager. Not a bad game apart from the final third.
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Mitchell definitely at fault for me. It wasn’t a venomous shot, it was a looping punt with not that much pace on it. Can’t be letting that in.
Your having a laugh. It was a worldy.
There are a few of you on here that have decided you don’t like JM whatever he does.
There are also a few of you on here that will defend him whatever to make yourself look a better supporter.
He was at fault for the goal in my opinion, it was poor. It’s just an opinion.
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Too many away performances where we try to defend all game and knick a goal , always going to end up with a terrible performance and defeat more often than not ? Not so bothered with results at the minute ,I just want to see some kind of goal threat , entertainment wise for the last couple of seasons is so draining and boring .
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Keeper dreadful for the goal. Lobbed again! Miller is a headless chicken. Agard can't run. Reo forget about him never fit. Nothing up top
Defence I thought looked good. Let down by Mitchell big time.
Sorry that’s rubbish.
Mitchell haters out in force this evening. Calling Miller a headless chicken is disgraceful. :headbang:
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One point off the playoffs and if we'd have won today we'd have gone fourth.
I know that good strikers don't grow on trees or are normally available in the January transfer window, but we're doing well.
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
I’d say going through 96 minutes without a single shot on target, against a makeshift defence would indicate not, no
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Really enjoyed the first half. Second was truly awful.
We were out thought and out fought.
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
I’d say going through 96 minutes without a single shot on target, against a makeshift defence would indicate not, no
Open question. I wasn't at the game.
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Keeper dreadful for the goal. Lobbed again! Miller is a headless chicken. Agard can't run. Reo forget about him never fit. Nothing up top
Defence I thought looked good. Let down by Mitchell big time.
Sorry that’s rubbish.
Mitchell haters out in force this evening. Calling Miller a headless chicken is disgraceful. :headbang:
It’s not hating Mitchell emotive talk. Watch his feet as the ball is cleared from our area then decide why he couldn’t get the ball
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
I’d say going through 96 minutes without a single shot on target, against a makeshift defence would indicate not, no
Open question. I wasn't at the game.
Neither was I, just kind of worked it out from the stats
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Sorry....can we have an appraisal of who were were playing, their form etc before being completely fecking negative on here.
1st half was good....they got.on top second. We were competitive. We weren't alot of the time last year. Things are changing
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We simply lacked any kind of goal threat second half, first half we were really good. Whatever anyone says about not being in a rush for January, if we want to push for the play-offs we have to strengthen. Hopefully there are a few signings on the horizon.
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I like Mitchell he's improved loads. The goal today was a joke
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
If you’re watching Bianca Westwood then obviously not watching the game.
We gave them a good game and were the better team in the first half.
Bad decisions in the final third cost us
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When we played these at home we drew but it was one of the most one sided games I’ve ever seen.
Today we gave as good as we got
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The first half was very good we stopped them creating anything and having a few half chances ourselves, 2nd half wellens made changes that worked and ds took off our only players that posed any threat, I hoped he leaned from last week when he took hurst and Luke m off and we fell apart, as far as the goal Mitchell took 2 steps forward and was beaten by a great strike, in hindsight he shouldn’t of come forward but just one of them things
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When we played these at home we drew but it was one of the most one sided games I’ve ever seen.
Today we gave as good as we got
we gave as good as we got and more first half, second half we were outplayed all half
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When we played these at home we drew but it was one of the most one sided games I’ve ever seen.
Today we gave as good as we got
First half we did. 2nd half we sat too deep. Close and Biggins seemed to be slow to press/challenge. Maybe Ravenhill would have been a better option for fresh legs and to compete for the ball.
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Hurst should have scored first half, keeper out of his goal, he should have dinked it in the open goal, instead he trys to beat two defenders and loses the ball
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Jesus… some people!! We’ve lost one nil away to probable champions. Played ok first half. Matched them. Our keeper is decent at our level. Saved us many times. They stepped it up 2nd half and showed why they are top. End of. Suck it up. Orient away was never going to define the rest of our season.
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Can’t fault them 1st half but definitely 2nd best 2nd half,and those blaming Mitchell are either just looking to blame sumone and obviously never played in goal,dipping shot they was way over his head when it past him and before anyone say he was too far off his line are wrong,yes he prob poss saved it if was on his line but you would see any keeper rooted to hos line there
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When we played these at home we drew but it was one of the most one sided games I’ve ever seen.
Today we gave as good as we got
we gave as good as we got and more first half, second half we were outplayed all half
I think both halves were the same, we just as much on top uk the first half as they were in the 2nd.
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We played 45mins where we could and should have the game done. It was just fact that they were going to find us out at the break and win that 2nd half which is what i knew was going to happen as i said in the lucky pint thread. I dont even care that they are top of the league and the lad will never hit one like that for the rest of his career, the truth is they were there for us to do a propper away performance job on in the first 45mins and we were toothless against a weakened back 4. We are also a week into the window with a brand new manager whos inherited another managers squad and we are still "in conversations" thats because we are trying to take fringe players from other clubs to take less money than they are worth and they are sitting waiting for the end of the window for a better offer as they dont fit into the plans of self sufficient Club Doncaster unless, they happen to persuade the player they can put him back in the shop window where he wil be working in nice training facilities with a nice atmosphere around the training ground where its ok if it doesnt work out and its also ok to perform at a 1 in 3 standard or warm the bench for the rest of his contract. We are literally supporting a business with zero ambition other than to get us back to League One. And all we get from the people at the top is we are well run...... so are the likes of Brentford and Brighton... where are they again? Its ok to be self sufficient as long as you have people in roles who are able to spot talent when they see it, so that we can develop them and sell them on. Apparently thats what we are doing yet only have Faulkner who has a chance of making a career. The game is that brutal that if you arent at least making the bench at 18 for us then we are never going to be able to make a good bit of money out of them. If im wrong name me a player who has done this in the past under this regime? Its emotional blackmail!
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Bizarre display from your lot today. We were there for the taking with our 3 centre halves unavailable yet you seemed to be content with a point. Was expecting more from you given your recent upturn in form tbh
That's from a O's fan on our Twitter.
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
No we never had a shot on target, very poor at this level not to have a shot on target for 90 mins, you tell me different
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Mitchell definitely at fault for me. It wasn’t a venomous shot, it was a looping punt with not that much pace on it. Can’t be letting that in.
Your having a laugh. It was a worldy.
There are a few of you on here that have decided you don’t like JM whatever he does.
Give over Campsall, should never have been beaten from there
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Got bullied in midfield 2nd half against a good side. Close was a complete passenger for most of the game, for the few nice passes he does when he's not under pressure he offers us nothing. I'd like to see the goal again but it looked like no keeper in the world would have saved it. Anyone who's saying Mitchell's positioning was poor is wrong, he was exactly where he should be just a good strike unfortunately. No shame in the defeat, more than matched them 1st half and there were a lot of positives to take from that, We moved the ball well and our shape was good in & out of possession. They nullified us well and doubled up on Molyneux in the 1st half. Obviousley we've no strength and depth off the bench but we're in a good position if we recruit well in Jan.
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Sorry....can we have an appraisal of who were were playing, their form etc before being completely fecking negative on here.
1st half was good....they got.on top second. We were competitive. We weren't alot of the time last year. Things are changing
We were playing a team who had never scored a goal in the last 3 , both centre backs out and who are in a really false position, the fact is we never had a shot on target piss poor that
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f**k me this forum is back to normal, we lose we are doomed, we’re crap,we don’t have a clue, we win we’re the best team in the world. Not much for the happy medium are we.
COYR
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He hasn't taken into account their form, the first stumble of the season lately can't buy a goal, their main central defenders missing, rarely get three wins on the trot.
What team would you pick out of the division to get you back on track?
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Mitchell definitely at fault for me. It wasn’t a venomous shot, it was a looping punt with not that much pace on it. Can’t be letting that in.
Your having a laugh. It was a worldy.
There are a few of you on here that have decided you don’t like JM whatever he does.
Give over Campsall, should never have been beaten from there
like the 3rd goal vs Rochdale virtually stood on the goaline but they.manage to score with a chip over his head
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
No we never had a shot on target, very poor at this level not to have a shot on target for 90 mins, you tell me different
As I've already said, I was asking an open question as I wasn't at the game - presumably you were?
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Not scored in last 3 games against Northampton and Newport away and Stevenage at home,anyone would think they are against bottom 3 teams in the league and they scored from a great strike,for all the possession they had 2nd half Mitchell was only tested once apart from the goal aswell.as soon as we lose the same old moaners are at it
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Bizarre display from your lot today. We were there for the taking with our 3 centre halves unavailable yet you seemed to be content with a point. Was expecting more from you given your recent upturn in form tbh
That's from a O's fan on our Twitter.
That O's fan is bang on.
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
If you’re watching Bianca Westwood then obviously not watching the game.
We gave them a good game and were the better team in the first half.
Bad decisions in the final third cost us
Did we pose any treat in the final third?
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Their part time CBs will never get an easier game
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f**k me this forum is back to normal, we lose we are doomed, we’re crap,we don’t have a clue, we win we’re the best team in the world. Not much for the happy medium are we.
COYR
I can’t see anyone saying we are doomed, we are simply commenting on the game, I don’t think we are doomed, I do know that if we are to get out of L2 this season then we simply got to bring players in, and that looks remote at this moment in time.
My other comment on todays game is I think it’s diabolical how a group of 10 overpaid outfield players can’t muster 1 shot on target the whole 90 mins, SHAME on them
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Mitchell definitely at fault for me. It wasn’t a venomous shot, it was a looping punt with not that much pace on it. Can’t be letting that in.
Your having a laugh. It was a worldy.
There are a few of you on here that have decided you don’t like JM whatever he does.
There are also a few of you on here that will defend him whatever to make yourself look a better supporter.
He was at fault for the goal in my opinion, it was poor. It’s just an opinion.
“ to make myself look a better supporter “ if that’s aimed at me then are you serious with that because it’s so far from the truth.
I just say it as I see it. I don’t claim to be a “better” supporter than anyone else.
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
If you’re watching Bianca Westwood then obviously not watching the game.
We gave them a good game and were the better team in the first half.
Bad decisions in the final third cost us
Did we pose any treat in the final third?
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In a word. No.
Had few shots from outside the area first half, but they were well blocked way before they got anywhere near goal. Miller has no service at all. We are very poor in the final third
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f**k me this forum is back to normal, we lose we are doomed, we’re crap,we don’t have a clue, we win we’re the best team in the world. Not much for the happy medium are we.
COYR
Bang on glosterred.
This forum is really quite mad. The knee jerk reactions to a defeat are crazy.
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Sorry....can we have an appraisal of who were were playing, their form etc before being completely fecking negative on here.
1st half was good....they got.on top second. We were competitive. We weren't alot of the time last year. Things are changing
We were playing a team who had never scored a goal in the last 3 , both centre backs out and who are in a really false position, the fact is we never had a shot on target piss poor that
So your saying
“Leyton Orient are in a false position” So a team that has got 56 points from 25 games are in a false position.
You don’t achieve that record through luck.
So are Rovers also in a false position. Where in the table should we be?
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They're not in a false position. They're a decent side. They were way better when they played us at home than today.
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Orient were not particularly impressive. We lost narrowly which felt about right for the game. If we aren’t going to have shots on goal, we aren’t going to score. Orient were not exactly peppering Mitchell. We lost because we are not as yet much good, but we are getting more solid, which is progress.
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Not gone today because of train strikes we cancelled tickets but for me the goal Mitchell moved his feet as though he was in quick sand.
Sounds like we played alright but created nothing, we definitely need about 4 bodies minimum this window.
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Just back.
That could have gone either way in dreadful conditions.
Very little between the teams imo
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We lack options to change it, simple as that and these players will be a bit tired after Christmas. We have nothing to swap any of the attack out for at all. Not the fault of the head coach given circumstances but they need to replace the lost players quick or we've no chance of catching up.
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We desperately need someone who has the skills that Tomlin had to open up defences.
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Orient were not particularly impressive. We lost narrowly which felt about right for the game. If we aren’t going to have shots on goal, we aren’t going to score. Orient were not exactly peppering Mitchell. We lost because we are not as yet much good, but we are getting more solid, which is progress.
agree with wot your saying we are looking tighter but we did have shots at goal today but we are still lightweight up top and not to threaten a lot more
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I haven't seen much in the way of 'knee jerk reaction', just people offering their take on the game, & we can move forward. Just saying it as you see it really, some posters take exception if it doesn't agree with their own opinion. Just tend to read the posts with a balanced view, rather than the 'I'm right & your wrong' ones.
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Keeper dreadful for the goal. Lobbed again! Miller is a headless chicken. Agard can't run. Reo forget about him never fit. Nothing up top
Defence I thought looked good. Let down by Mitchell big time.
Sorry that’s rubbish.
Mitchell haters out in force this evening. Calling Miller a headless chicken is disgraceful. :headbang:
I am tyred of these Mitchell "outers" I am a MICHEL-IN fan :whistle:
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We desperately need someone who has the skills that Tomlin had to open up defences.
We should make a move for Sadlier. Not getting enough minutes at Bolton, pretty sure he’d happily come back here if the chance was presented.
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We desperately need someone who has the skills that Tomlin had to open up defences.
We should make a move for Sadlier. Not getting enough minutes at Bolton, pretty sure he’d happily come back here if the chance was presented.
I wouldn't be surprised if Rotherham made a move for him on loan ... Rotherham are no longer a tall " land of the giants team" in fact Ronnie Moore accused Milwall of being a team of giants last Saturday - how times change !!!
Whatsmore Bolton havd just made their first signing in the transfer window and their manager hinted that was the first of many signings to come.
So there is every chance he will go out on loan - but not to our division. :thumbdown:
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We desperately need someone who has the skills that Tomlin had to open up defences.
We should make a move for Sadlier. Not getting enough minutes at Bolton, pretty sure he’d happily come back here if the chance was presented.
I would love Sads to come back to us until the end of the season.
Him and Miller would be a great front two.
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This is the thing Tomlin's wage is going where at the minute? He was something different and Woltman is a terrible replacement
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Now that’s what you call a mistake from Allison
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We played really well today especially first half, agree the squad needs strengthening once it’s time to take Molyneux and Hirst off we don’t have ready made like for like replacements.
The ref had a shocker today by the way
We had quite a few shots first half but their defenders threw themselves into blocks
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This is the thing Tomlin's wage is going where at the minute? He was something different and Woltman is a terrible replacement
Woltman was never a replacement for tomlin.
Unfortunately tomlin decideded to retire (but then play again afterwards) mid season so we havnt yet had the chance to sign his replacement.
I maybe reading your statement wrong but it reads to me that you are saying that woltman is tomlins replacement sorry if I have.
I will judge at the end of the month if they have replaced lee tomlin.
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We played really well today especially first half, agree the squad needs strengthening once it’s time to take Molyneux and Hirst off we don’t have ready made like for like replacements.
The ref had a shocker today by the way
We had quite a few shots first half but their defenders threw themselves into blocks
not sure you can say we played well today, 1st half I thought we were excellent 2nd they were far better and we created nothing
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After 10 minutes of the second half, for whatever reason we just invited them on to us and apart from injury time, that was the story of the second half.
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This side will continually just fall short of making it into the play off positions because we are missing certain components in the side. We will finish just outside the play offs at the end, unless we get a few coming in and some going out. We are not a million miles away, it’s tweaks that are needed in the side.
We have one good out and out striker, we need another two. We miss a ball winner/creative midfield type. A central defender is also needed.
Knoyle needs to be playing on the right hand side. I would say if we can get them moves players need to be moved on from all departments, striker, midfield and defence.
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Not going to read any further or previous replies because I'm past the point of caring about what people who can't wait to stick the knife in think anymore, but we were the better team in the first half.
Anyone saying "we had no shots on target" is clearly looking at the stats and not taking into account that a shot doesn't count as on target if it's blocked along the way, which happened numerous times in the first half. That in itself says something, but it's not as if we posed no threat.
Second half, you knew they were going to step it up a notch and they did. But it was hardly a tonking against the side that will probably run away with it. And we made them look reasonably ordinary for good chunks of the game, in my opinion.
Some people really do seem to revel in being 'right' when we lose, don't they? it's incredibly toxic and I often find the fans more draining than when the football is naff.
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I think yesterday was fairly representative in many respects.
We can against the better sides match them for periods of a game, and there appears more solidity at the back these days (although no clean sheet yet again) but we can’t match the better sides for 90minutes and our intensity drops off.
We don’t have enough in the squad to then change what’s on the pitch and we then end up retreating until the inevitable happens.
I guess we either need to be putting sides to the sword when we have those earlier chances, or we have a better bench with more options. Both probably rely on transfer business.
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The no shots on target is very misleading for this game. They were plenty of attempts that were blocked in the first half.
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First half we were excellent, 2nd half, while the endeavour was there we created absolutely nothing & the flair players Mollyneux & Hirst were way off it. Their keeper never had a shot to save all game, & their makeshift defence had an easy afternoon. That's my take on it & I'll stick to it. We are not far away & 2 or 3 additions will see us make the play offs, without them we're going nowhere, in my opinion.
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Taylor, Rowe, Faulkner, Clayton, Olowu, Younger and I presume Griffiths all out injured. They would make the side and bench looks entirely different.
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A 30-yarder that pings back off the crossbar is not ‘on target’. But as a fan you jump to your feet thinking that’s a goal all the way. Then you think we’re gonna score in a minute. I’ll take one of those for 5 that trickle along the ground into the keeper’s hands.
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Just seen their goal, never in a million years was that Mitchells fault, 99 in 100 it's over or off the bar
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I was sat in the home end yesterday with some Orient supporting mates. The consensus around me at half time was that they were lucky not to be, at the very least, a goal down and that Rovers were the better side by a fair margin. It was during the final 20-25 mins when they stepped up a gear and began to take the game to us that they became more confident of snatching a win. Chatting after the game a few guys said that we were one of the best teams they’d seen this season and one of the few that’d actually put them under sustained pressure for large chunks of the game. Their class shone through though and we found it difficult to counter that.
Orient are the best team in the division by some distance in my view and it’s no disgrace to put in the performance we did. We’re just missing those couple of extra bits of quality to make us a really good side.
Anyone who thought that we were poor yesterday is wrong imo.
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Good to hear. If that's back to normal, then normal is getting better.
If we're acknowledging improvements from Williams plus Maxwell, Hurst and Seaman who are getting a run of games then this bodes well. Surely Molyneux will get one in the onion bag soon too.
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
No we never had a shot on target, very poor at this level not to have a shot on target for 90 mins, you tell me different
People obsessed with shots on target like it’s the b all and end all.
So if we’d had 6 shots from 30 yards that the keeper put his hat on, that would e menar we played much better woukd it?
Fact is we got into many good positions in the first half but the final decision cost us.
To say we didn’t play well because we had no shots on target is crackers
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
No we never had a shot on target, very poor at this level not to have a shot on target for 90 mins, you tell me different
People obsessed with shots on target like it’s the b all and end all.
So if we’d had 6 shots from 30 yards that the keeper put his hat on, that would e menar we played much better woukd it?
Fact is we got into many good positions in the first half but the final decision cost us.
To say we didn’t play well because we had no shots on target is crackers
People say we didn’t have shots on target when we did have shots on target that were blocked.
A shot cleared off the line by a defender isn’t classed as being a shot on target.
Stats are not always what they are made out to be.
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You don’t mind losing if we played a good game, but we are having far to many games where we can’t have a shot on target, Bianca Westwood was right we offer nothing in the final third.
Also should the keeper have done better? I think so
Did we not play a good game?
No we never had a shot on target, very poor at this level not to have a shot on target for 90 mins, you tell me different
People obsessed with shots on target like it’s the b all and end all.
So if we’d had 6 shots from 30 yards that the keeper put his hat on, that would e menar we played much better woukd it?
Fact is we got into many good positions in the first half but the final decision cost us.
To say we didn’t play well because we had no shots on target is crackers
Our decision making wasn't great as you say but also at least 2 of their defenders made great blocks