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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: scunny rover on January 19, 2023, 12:03:03 pm
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Bradford
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2023/january/clayton/
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-captain-adam-clayton-joins-bradford-city-on-free-transfer-3992959
Not entirely surprised with his departure as we seemed to struggle for intensity when he was at the base of midfield.
Maybe surprised with his destination but that might help us in the long run providing we can find that more dynamic player to compliment or compete with Close and Biggins.
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Not surprised. Issue now is getting in a replacement that will work in our setup.
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Wow, I liked him a more mobile version of JBostock - just not mobile enough. It was an upgrade from a snail to a tortoise.
He did have great vision and his passing ability is second to none at this level.
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He seemed to have a positive influence on RSW for a period of time. Wonder if we will see RSW leave in the summer too.
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Liked his enthusiasm and drive but have to admit we look a better side without him
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It’s a plus for me that the coaches can see he’s not good enough
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Thank you Bradford! He’s awful
A good bit of business if we actually replace him.
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Hopefully Barlow next , clear all dead wood out and go again next season
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Barlow is rated highly
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Haha
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Somebody must be coming in soon we can’t run with a squad our size!
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Great pro but this is a good move, I thought we were stuck with him until the summer. So slow and cannot do anything when players run at him.
We needed a midfielder anyway for me so need two now I think.
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Think the "he's awful" shouts are a bit harsh. He was one of the few parts of GM's spell in charge that actually functioned fairly well, albeit we spent most of it punting the ball aimlessly from back to front over his head.
Having said that, it's probably the right move at the right time. He clearly didn't fit DS's style, and frees up some money that we can hopefully utilise on a younger, more mobile player that will be better suited to the sort of football we want to play.
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There’s “legs have gone” and then there’s time to just call it a day.
Seemed a good guy though, great pro. Helped Hurst settle in too.
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I suspected from the day Schofiled was coy about contract extensions back in December, he couldn't wait to gut the team and bring in his own identity, I must admit, I didn't think he would do it in January though!
Need to get some bodies through the door now, we are really down to bare bones
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I think that’s a decent move for all parties. He’s a good character and I wish him well, there was definitely never any lack of effort on his part and he clearly still has quality too. However his best days are well behind him and, as others have said, this gives us a chance to bring someone more mobile in. This really does need to be a serious replacement and not a young kid on loan.
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Central midfield was a priority at the start of the window and is more so now. Close and Biggins are the only central midfielders on our books.
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Central midfield was a priority at the start of the window and is more so now. Close and Biggins are the only central midfielders on our books.
Depends where DS sees Rowe playing? Could count him as Centre mid possibly?
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No real loss in a lot of ways he just didn't fit the shape and setup of the team.
But, its another one out with as yet nobody coming in. The squad gets thinner each day and we now only have 2 functioning central midfielders. That's a huge worry to me given Close has had so many injuries.
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Possibly a good move for all involved,his style does not fit us at the moment.I was initially a little surprised he has been taken by Bradford,but thinking about it,he probably is an extra option/style and back up for Hughes who has a decent squad already.Hopefully this is a sign we have a midfielder lined up to come in.
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We complain when we can’t get rid of surplus players and now we complain we are moving them on or moving them out too quickly.
Until someone goes you cannot budget for someone else with certainty. I’m prepared to credit management with the sense to have a replacement in mind - and when all is said and done you would expect someone who can compete for a 1st team place, rather than someone with limited ability which is what Clayton became.
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Central midfield was a priority at the start of the window and is more so now. Close and Biggins are the only central midfielders on our books.
Depends where DS sees Rowe playing? Could count him as Centre mid possibly?
I’m concerned that Rowe won’t play much more this season.
He seems to have as many injury issues as Taylor.
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Central midfield was a priority at the start of the window and is more so now. Close and Biggins are the only central midfielders on our books.
Depends where DS sees Rowe playing? Could count him as Centre mid possibly?
I’m concerned that Rowe won’t play much more this season.
He seems to have as many injury issues as Taylor.
Have to agree Hound but hoping he is back at the end of the month. Can only wait and see.
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But DS has explained that they’re going to be careful with TR’s back problem, as they want him available for more games. It sounds like he’s not going to be ready until back end of January.
We need someone now.
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This move will be good for both parties as long as we can bring in a better player that suits DS and our midfield we wait and see.
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Agard next.
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Central midfield was a priority at the start of the window and is more so now. Close and Biggins are the only central midfielders on our books.
Depends where DS sees Rowe playing? Could count him as Centre mid possibly?
I’m concerned that Rowe won’t play much more this season.
He seems to have as many injury issues as Taylor.
Rowe did a resistance band class with mothers of newborns the other day, so guessing we won't be seeing him for a while.
Think it's a good move getting Clayton's wages off the books, even with the TR situation in mind.
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Liked his enthusiasm and drive but have to admit we look a better side without him
Think DS has quickly realised this also and took the necessary action. In recent weeks it has been more obvious the style of play he wants to implement and he's clearly recognised certain personnel are not up to the task and we need better. Be great if we can bring in better players and make a push for the playoffs but worse case scenario we have a season of transition which puts us in a better place for recruitment in the summer
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If i was the manager ( :laugh: ) I would have come to a gentlemans agreement that he didn't play against us
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If i was the manager ( :laugh: ) I would have come to a gentlemans agreement that he didn't play against us
I'd say the opposite, its obvious they way we want to play had AC surplus to requirements, If we had to play against a team with AC sat deep in midfield then we should be licking our lips at the prospect, as a fast and fluid attacking setup should be AC's worst nightmare really.
Been a good servant in his short time with us, had a good and calming influence on some of the younger players and did not shirk his responsibilities, now for us to get a younger and quicker AC to replace him would be paramount.
Under no circumstances should we be looking to bring a development player in for his replacement, we need the best quality we can get to go straight into the side. Any sort of injury to Biggins or Close has us down to the bare bones.
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If someone like the young Ben Whiteman as he was when he came on loan, signed, I don't think many would be moaning. Well, some would of course before seeing what talent he had.
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It was interesting to note that when Whiteman first came to us on loan it was mainly as a more attacking midfielder, that we saw fit to play him in a position that suited his skillset better was good work for all involved.
Its a shame that we don't seem to have anyone in the club who could be converted into that type of a player.
A younger TR would be idea for our current situation, im wondering if his time left with the club is now drawing closer than originally envisaged.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://twitter.com/BBCWYS/status/1616042790571458562%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Etweet&ved=2ahUKEwj3kc73-tP8AhWtTkEAHQKtBTwQglR6BAhpEAc&usg=AOvVaw0IG68b2gTxXK-UTtjSPQ9n
Gotta say his face doesn't scream that he is delighted by it
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We complain when we can’t get rid of surplus players and now we complain we are moving them on or moving them out too quickly.
Until someone goes you cannot budget for someone else with certainty. I’m prepared to credit management with the sense to have a replacement in mind - and when all is said and done you would expect someone who can compete for a 1st team place, rather than someone with limited ability which is what Clayton became.
Who is complaining we are moving them on or too fast?Only thing I've seen alot of is the disappointment KK has left.
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://twitter.com/BBCWYS/status/1616042790571458562%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc%255Egoogle%257Ctwcamp%255Eserp%257Ctwgr%255Etweet&ved=2ahUKEwj3kc73-tP8AhWtTkEAHQKtBTwQglR6BAhpEAc&usg=AOvVaw0IG68b2gTxXK-UTtjSPQ9n
Gotta say his face doesn't scream that he is delighted by it
Big 'local press photo of man who received rash from counterfeit t-shirt' energy about it.
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Bradford
Who paid for the Taxi ?
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Clayton’s comments on departure are great to read. Humble and respectful of our club, which is in keeping with the attitude he showed during his time here. Far classier than Knoyle who took the opportunity to stir the pot.
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When he comes back with bradford I hope he gets a good reception from the fans here. Was an excellent servant during his time here. Hope he has a nightmare of a game and we run rings round him all the same.
Hope that his departure though doesn't have a negative effect on team morale, he did seem a popular dressing room figure.
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Good outcome all round
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I have to say I was made up with the news today when I found out. A great pro I have no doubt, but just not a player suited to a style we want/need to see. If we could have 22 pro’s like him, we would have a great team ethos, and a real team spirit.
I wish him all the best and thank him for trying to steady the ship during a torrid time at the club, but time for us to move on.
Credit for the club getting him out the door without a pay off!
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Clayton’s comments on departure are great to read. Humble and respectful of our club, which is in keeping with the attitude he showed during his time here. Far classier than Knoyle who took the opportunity to stir the pot.
Agreed 100%. Clayton comes across as a true professional and a decent man. No hard feelings from me, even if I think overall he was a poor signing.
He showed in the early weeks of the season that he could be a potent player in the QB position if we could fashion a game plan that made space for him. But we couldn't consistently.
That's not really Clayton's fault. It's just not worked out. Good luck to a good pro with the rest of his career.
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Good pro - no fuss no bluff... hope he does well at Bradford
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Is there a link to his leaving comments please
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From the stands he seems like a great pro & a good influence on the younger members of the squad.
On the field, other than brief glimpses, we're a better team without him.
Thanks Adam & good luck, apart from when you play us.
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Is there a link to his leaving comments please
I was going to ask the same, I can't find anything
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Clayton Close never worked as a midfield two. Not robust enough, not fast enough, didn't win enough second balls. In a bygone era when they were both younger, or the game was slower and more technical it might have worked, but for the the turgid quick-sand head tennis league two it never worked and never would work.
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A Bradford City fan's assessment of Clayton signing.
https://youtu.be/XA-iZHgQ_wM
First few mins includes Rovers fans comments... middle bit, history and stats. Last few mins, his conclusion.
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https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/adam-clayton-has-his-say-on-doncaster-rovers-exit-after-making-bradford-city-switch-3994032
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Sounds like DS is keen to put his stamp on the team. At least everything was done in the open
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Clayton has now had his say on the matter and I don’t think it’s gone quite how he thought. He did, at least, thank DS for his straight talking on the matter, as it left him in no doubt.
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Sounds like DS is keen to put his stamp on the team. At least everything was done in the open
Yes, I guess it's how it's done. Wellens didn't seem to get the desired results with Bogle and Williams.
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Impressed with DS on how he's handled this. Clinical but with class. Respectful in public to a pro.
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Sounds like DS is keen to put his stamp on the team. At least everything was done in the open
Yes, I guess it's how it's done. Wellens didn't seem to get the desired results with Bogle and Williams.
I imagine its because Schofield has treated Clayton like a grown up, and it's been sorted in house without any press leaks. It bodes well.
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The way the manager wants to play doesn’t suit Clayton’s game. Bradford’s style of play is more suited to his game, I think they’ve got a decent signing. Let’s just hope it’s not filling the side with youth loans.
We do need a bit of experience as well. Decisive management, knows how he wants to play, now to get the players to implement that.
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The way the manager wants to play doesn’t suit Clayton’s game. Bradford’s style of play is more suited to his game, I think they’ve got a decent signing. Let’s just hope it’s not filling the side with youth loans.
We do need a bit of experience as well. Decisive management, knows how he wants to play, now to get the players to implement that.
Listening to that U tube clip it seems Clayton is not what they need. He said they need someone with energy.
Same as us it would seem. I think it is a strange signing for them. Any way not our concern.
We now need 2 midfielders in the door as we are woefully short in that area.
Also need a striker as well.
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Hughes will be thinking he’s ideal for them, with the knowledge he’s picked up during his career.
He won’t give you energy though as you’ve said. If that’s what they are expecting he won’t fit them.
I think Danny has been quite shrewd in moving people out now. He’s looked at it and seen the side is just short of breaking into the promotion places. He’s changed it now, so if it works and his signings get us in to those places, then he gets praise for doing a good job. If we fail he will have a decent excuse for just dropping short, and the criticism will be lessened.
I think there are a few more worth fixing up with other clubs. They’ve had time to perform and haven’t done it. We have no space for carrying players, every one has to contribute if we are going to do well.
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Adam Clayton was a great guy and a very good senior team member, he used his experience and leadership traits well, and that will be the benefit to Bradford, he will give them what they “may" need in the dressing room.
If they are looking at energy then unfortunately for them and Adam, his legs have gone, at his prime he was far too good for this level. Listening to him, his mind has not caught up with the fact just yet. It’s sad in a way to watch someone who is clearly passionate about the game and playing, but his body just can’t do it.
I wish him all the best, he never let us down, and as others have said, was a great pro.
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Adam Clayton was a great guy and a very good senior team member, he used his experience and leadership traits well, and that will be the benefit to Bradford, he will give them what they “may" need in the dressing room.
If they are looking at energy then unfortunately for them and Adam, his legs have gone, at his prime he was far too good for this level. Listening to him, his mind has not caught up with the fact just yet. It’s sad in a way to watch someone who is clearly passionate about the game and playing, but his body just can’t do it.
I wish him all the best, he never let us down, and as others have said, was a great pro.
Agreed, I reckon he could maybe still do a job at this level with the right players around him. Doesn't fit in with our new formation , where we can often get exposed in midfield.
Wish him all the best in the future, except for the return leg.
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Adam Clayton was a great guy and a very good senior team member, he used his experience and leadership traits well, and that will be the benefit to Bradford, he will give them what they “may" need in the dressing room.
If they are looking at energy then unfortunately for them and Adam, his legs have gone, at his prime he was far too good for this level. Listening to him, his mind has not caught up with the fact just yet. It’s sad in a way to watch someone who is clearly passionate about the game and playing, but his body just can’t do it.
I wish him all the best, he never let us down, and as others have said, was a great pro.
Great Post, spot on.
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A man of principal, what a pity that we all can’t follow his example
Good luck mate a pity that the game isn’t reinforced with more like you. The previous post was spot on.
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Bradford fans raving about how well he has done for them, shame he didn’t seem to fit in the way we played
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Yes looking at the games he’s played 4 games and played 90 mins in each. 2 wins and 2 draws against 3 tams above Bradford and 1 just below. He’s played looking at formation middle of a midfield 3 with a 4th midfield player in front of them and 2 strikers 4312 diamond ?
He didn’t fit the system that DS wanted to play midfield legs and only 2 central. To get the type of player he wanted then Clayton left I utilising his wages for Lakin loan.
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He’s doing great there according to bradford fans and I’m glad. Unfortunately he didn’t fit the system under DS and it was the right move for all parties.
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As long as he has a shocker on 25th Feb, I'm pleased for him!
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Must be about due another ban surely
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Must be about due another ban surely
currently on 7 bookings in the league.