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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: glosterred on January 20, 2023, 11:03:30 am
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There will be a pitch inspection later to day to see if tomorrows game can go ahead
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2023/january/pitch-inspection/
COYR
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There must be a big doubt, if it passes that inspection there’ll probably be one in the morning, it will be the shaded area’s of the pitch that will be the concern
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Another Tuesday night becons
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Its probably to stop the away team from travelling and incurring costs.
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
What do yo want? Under soil heating? You going to pay for it?
COYR
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Feels like a pp is coming. Quite clear areas out the sun aren't going to thaw out at all.
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Guess it will be have a look about 2 ish but if the south area is not getting sun can’t see it being on. Was really looking forward to a game too
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The problem is that it’s still going to -1 at 10am tomorrow
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The problem is that it’s still going to -1 at 10am tomorrow
..and -4/-5 and foggy overnight.
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Unfortunately I don’t think there’s a chance of it going ahead, although happy if I’m wrong, not relishing another Tuesday night game!!
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
they don't cover the whole pitch that's the issue
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
they don't cover the whole pitch that's the issue
Have you seen the pictures in the article?
COYR
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There is a positive if the game is postponed. It could mean we might not get the awful Andy Haines as the referee for the rearranged date.
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Just a thought Helicopters are used for flying frost protection over Vineyards or what about one or two
hot air balloons tethered to the pitch or hot water in the sprinklers, blow several space heaters under the pitch cover.
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They’ll be using the heat lamps I would have thought.
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They’ll be using the heat lamps I would have thought.
That’ll cost a few quid, they should be on now before the inspection, freezing fog expected tonight, I can’t see this being on at all
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Just to add given how many colds and viruses about would anyone be bothered if it is off?
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Just to add given how many colds and viruses about would anyone be bothered if it is off?
YES ME
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
the covers that I can see on the pitch will only keep off frost if it’s -1 at tops -2 so primitive that we use in 2023
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It’s 6C!!
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Just to add given how many colds and viruses about would anyone be bothered if it is off?
What a bizarre comment ??
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
the covers that I can see on the pitch will only keep off frost if it’s -1 at tops -2 so primitive that we use in 2023
Do you sell frost covers or some kind off rost covers expert?
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It’s 6C!!
Try a little experiment, put some ice cubes outside and see how long they take to thaw out
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Just to add given how many colds and viruses about would anyone be bothered if it is off?
What a bizarre comment ??
Speak for yourself, my whole house been full of it for week, I'd much rather the game be when it's warmer, nothing worse than our stadium when it's cold (which always feels about 5 degrees colder than everywhere else).
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
the covers that I can see on the pitch will only keep off frost if it’s -1 at tops -2 so primitive that we use in 2023
Have you a better solution?
COYR
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Well they should have had the Inspection by now , the temperature is dipping from now on , so the pitch ain't going to get any softer than it is at this moment in time.
The Tranmere team Coach must be about to set off as well you would have thought.
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Well they should have had the Inspection by now , the temperature is dipping from now on , so the pitch ain't going to get any softer than it is at this moment in time.
The Tranmere team Coach must be about to set off as well you would have thought.
It’s not 4pm?
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Well they should have had the Inspection by now , the temperature is dipping from now on , so the pitch ain't going to get any softer than it is at this moment in time.
The Tranmere team Coach must be about to set off as well you would have thought.
If its soft enough now it should be soft enough by KO tomorrow
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I reckon this is tactical by Rovers, it's not even cold!
Postponing the game so the 3 World class players we're signing next week can play when it's rearranged.
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I reckon this is tactical by Rovers, it's not even cold!
Postponing the game so the 3 World class players we're signing next week can play when it's rearranged.
Ssssshhhhhhhhhhhh!
COYR
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
the covers that I can see on the pitch will only keep off frost if it’s -1 at tops -2 so primitive that we use in 2023
Do you sell frost covers or some kind off rost covers expert?
Used to design cover’s
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Is that your blanket response!
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Well they should have had the Inspection by now , the temperature is dipping from now on , so the pitch ain't going to get any softer than it is at this moment in time.
The Tranmere team Coach must be about to set off as well you would have thought.
not if just coming tomorrow it’s only 2 hours
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Well they should have had the Inspection by now , the temperature is dipping from now on , so the pitch ain't going to get any softer than it is at this moment in time.
The Tranmere team Coach must be about to set off as well you would have thought.
not if just coming tomorrow it’s only 2 hours
They have to leave Birkenhead under cover of dark to avoid the coach getting trashed lol!
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Match off
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2023/january/tranmere-off/
COYR
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Ffs. Surely there must be a way of preventing this in the day and age we live in. It’s hardly Eastern Europe and blowing a blizzard. Ridiculous
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Ffs. It happens. I had tickets. Oh well. Not the end of the world. There will be plenty more postponements but people will still slag the club and board etc off
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My lawn has been shaded and is softish in Sprotbrough
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Ffs. It happens. I had tickets. Oh well. Not the end of the world. There will be plenty more postponements but people will still slag the club and board etc off
My only gripe is how easy games get called off in this era
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We have a cautious manager with new players to bed in and it is not as though we have any real fixture pile-up, so if the decision was in the balance and he was asked for a view, it is unlikely that he would want to go ahead. Whether the Tranmere manager would have any say in the matter, who knows?
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Plenty of Tuesdays free, we’ve only 3 midweek games I think, between now and the end of the season
COYR
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
the covers that I can see on the pitch will only keep off frost if it’s -1 at tops -2 so primitive that we use in 2023
Do you sell frost covers or some kind off rost covers expert?
Used to design cover’s
You didn't do a very good job then did you ;) ;) :)
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Thought it was down to the official? Reading the article there was never a chance of it being on even with the covers being on since Sunday
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According to my weather app, it’s only down to -1 in Donny tonight. What’s it been like for the last few days? Very surprised it’s off if only going down to -1
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Just noticed who ref would have been - Haynes
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According to my weather app, it’s only down to -1 in Donny tonight. What’s it been like for the last few days? Very surprised it’s off if only going down to -1
Theres been a hard frost every night for the last four nights, and its clear skys now temps dropping quick
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Thought it was down to the official? Reading the article there was never a chance of it being on even with the covers being on since Sunday
always down to the official but may not of been our ref doing the inspection,they could of just asked one that’s more local
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The pitch inspection last week was WITH both managers which implies that their opinion would have been taken into account.
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Unlikely Tranmere had set off before pitch inspection decision.
It is only a 2 hr or maybe 2.5 hr journey so expect they would have travelled this eve if it had been on.
So don’t think Mellon will have had any say on the decision.
Really frustrating as I missed the last 2 away games ( well 1 was off ) so i am starting to get withdrawal symptoms. Yes i know that sounds unbelievable but I need my football fix.
Who is at home tomorrow. Harrogate away at Grimsby. It’s a bit far I think to watch them. Think I am snookered. All non league games will be off I suspect.
Looks like Sky sports again in the warm. ;)
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Just reading some of the replies to the Twitter post stating the game is off. Absolutely unbelievable some of the replies, there's some right idiots spouting a lot of hot air, they should have got down to the ground, if would have been frost free in no time.
COYR
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Disappointing but it is what it is. Just a thought though if the covers were laid 30 hours before any frost, then surely they're not fit for purpose, or do they only work to a certain temperature.
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They'd surely have been better off today in the blazing sun?
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Ffs. It happens. I had tickets. Oh well. Not the end of the world. There will be plenty more postponements but people will still slag the club and board etc off
Nope, it’s not a slagging off. The loss in revenue from what a Saturday afternoon game generates compared to a random Tuesday night is a concern though. We are hardly in a position to turn it down.
That’s where the frustration comes from. But I suppose you didn’t think about that before having a dig
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I know we’re in the bottom tier but it’s still part of a professional sports league. I can’t help but wonder why clubs seem to get caught out by UK weather. Everyone knows a cold snap has been on the way, surely more effective mitigation is available to clubs that doesn’t involve millions of pounds spent on under pitch heating.
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I know we’re in the bottom tier but it’s still part of a professional sports league. I can’t help but wonder why clubs seem to get caught out by UK weather. Everyone knows a cold snap has been on the way, surely more effective mitigation is available to clubs that doesn’t involve millions of pounds spent on under pitch heating.
Yes, if we ever get back to the championship a few nights of cold weather won’t really wash will it? If the covers we have can’t withstand a relatively short cold period then they ain’t fit for purpose are they?
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Looking at the cover’s on the pitch, you would think we are back in the 70s a joke
Care to explain, Upton?
the covers that I can see on the pitch will only keep off frost if it’s -1 at tops -2 so primitive that we use in 2023
Do you sell frost covers or some kind off rost covers expert?
Used to design cover’s
You didn't do a very good job then did you ;) ;) :)
Not the crap the club use, look at “matchsaver.com
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Disappointing but it is what it is. Just a thought though if the covers were laid 30 hours before any frost, then surely they're not fit for purpose, or do they only work to a certain temperature.
That’s what I have said, look at the images, no more than what a gardener would put around his plug plants, total joke
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
COYR
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Disappointing but it is what it is. Just a thought though if the covers were laid 30 hours before any frost, then surely they're not fit for purpose, or do they only work to a certain temperature.
That’s what I have said, look at the images, no more than what a gardener would put around his plug plants, total joke
“Total joke”.?
How about you get some perspective eh?
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
COYR
I said at the Planning stage , the solar panels are a recent addition and could have been placed else where .
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Unlikely Tranmere had set off before pitch inspection decision.
It is only a 2 hr or maybe 2.5 hr journey so expect they would have travelled this eve if it had been on.
So don’t think Mellon will have had any say on the decision.
Really frustrating as I missed the last 2 away games ( well 1 was off ) so i am starting to get withdrawal symptoms. Yes i know that sounds unbelievable but I need my football fix.
Who is at home tomorrow. Harrogate away at Grimsby. It’s a bit far I think to watch them. Think I am snookered. All non league games will be off I suspect.
Looks like Sky sports again in the warm. ;)
Camps, if you were able to watch Harrogate, either at home or at Grimsby, what would that tell you about Rovers' ability to deal with cold weather?
It will be interesting to see how many games in our league are played tomorrow.
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Sack the board
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Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
I said at the Planning stage , the solar panels are a recent addition and could have been placed else where .
Not that recent....
https://www.closeassetfinance.co.uk/industry-insights/doncaster-rovers-save-ps1m-new-solar-panel-array
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Don’t get it. It’s not that cold really or it’s within the bounds of a normal winter. Feels like so much else in this country that any minor flux just derails everything.
We’re a pro football club that rely on gates to keep our cash flow. Going 3 months hardly playing must be a killer. Surely there has to be a way to stop low ( but not exceptionally low) temperatures leading to cancellations.
We’ve invested a lot in the training ground etc which is understandably important hopefully getting some heaters will be on the agenda soon
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We’re going to need more than 2 senior centre mids with these midweek fixtures.
1 more cold snap and we’ll end up with even more fixture congestion.
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
COYR
I said at the Planning stage , the solar panels are a recent addition and could have been placed else where .
Hindsight is 20/20 vision
COYR
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We’re going to need more than 2 senior centre mids with these midweek fixtures.
1 more cold snap and we’ll end up with even more fixture congestion.
There is currently only 3 Tuesday night fixtures, 4 when this game is rearranged between now and the end of the season, plenty of free Tuesdays left to play games on
COYR
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That's 2 potential wins we have missed out on and could have looked much better. On the other hand it is a chance for Todd Miller, Ben Nelson and James Brown to get up to speed before the Mansfield game. And we might get some injured players back.
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……..and we might have a couple of more signings in the building?
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…this phrase “in the building” is strange “manager speak” to me - especially in an outdoor sport.
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
COYR
I said at the Planning stage , the solar panels are a recent addition and could have been placed else where .
solar panels are always placed on South facing roofs where possible. Makes the most of the sunshine. Simple physics.
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
COYR
I said at the Planning stage , the solar panels are a recent addition and could have been placed else where .
Hindsight is 20/20 vision
COYR
It shouldn't have been Hindsight, It should be basic for Architects that concentrate on Building Sports Stadia.
One example , King power Stadium , 2 sides have partial transparent roofs and that was built 5 years prior to the ECO Power.
There are dozens more that have them , obviously it got overlooked for ours.
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
COYR
I said at the Planning stage , the solar panels are a recent addition and could have been placed else where .
solar panels are always placed on South facing roofs where possible. Makes the most of the sunshine. Simple physics.
I agree , but if the roof had been built with a transparent section then another solution would have to have been found regarding Solar panels , simple
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Midweek games are perfect for me! I can watch at 8 a.m.(ish) as opposed to 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning. Plus we might get a couple more bodies in and up to speed before the next game. I think we'll know what our "ambition" is by the end of this window.
Regarding the postponement, I can't remember too many games being called off at Belle Vue. It was one of the best playing surfaces in the country. I saw many games on a snow covered pitch with the old orange ball. Aahh, memories! Health and safety was well down the list of priorities in the 60's and 70's.
RTID
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If a bit of thought had gone into this Problem/situation when the Stadium was in the planning stage , then perhaps a transparent roof section could have been put on the South Stand roof to let the sun shine through, Lots of Stadiums have them.
Cannot put a transparent roof section there, that is where the solar panels are located
COYR
I said at the Planning stage , the solar panels are a recent addition and could have been placed else where .
solar panels are always placed on South facing roofs where possible. Makes the most of the sunshine. Simple physics.
I agree , but if the roof had been built with a transparent section then another solution would have to have been found regarding Solar panels , simple
The sun doesn't get high enough in the sky at this time of year. We would need transparent wall panelling, concrete blocks and seats.
When your driving around in the low sun getting In your eyes tells you that.
The cost to address this, whatever solution we choose, far outweighs the benefit. It happens.
There were plenty of games called off at Belle Vue and around the country, although the tolerance levels of poor pitch conditions were far higher. Nobody made a fuss about it because it was normal and folk accepted it.
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-4 this morning, looks like the club made the right decision calling it off early. Well done to them.
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As ever it is annoying but a fact of life. Where people rightly get pissed off is with late decisions on long away trips, which this announcement avoided. We’d all like to be watching a game today but it’s not happening.
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Some of the reactions to the announcement on twitter is over the top. Usual people finding a way to label the club a joke and a laughing stock.
At times its our fans that could be seen as the joke.
Some claims that it isn't even cold, it's been -4 for more than 10hrs now.
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-4 this morning, looks like the club made the right decision calling it off early. Well done to them.
Yes ... Like last week (Crawley) the home club would be damned if they went early , as people might have given it time , and damned if they let the away Team and their fans set off and turn them back en route
True Tranmere is a lot lot closer than Crawley was but it looks like they got it right
Whether we have resilient enough pitch protection is and will be an ongoing discussion
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2 other games off in lge one and 3 off in lge two now. Lots of non league off
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Some of the reactions to the announcement on twitter is over the top. Usual people finding a way to label the club a joke and a laughing stock.
At times its our fans that could be seen as the joke.
Some claims that it isn't even cold, it's been -4 for more than 10hrs now.
they will get there moaning done over that Instead of 4.50 today if we had of lost
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…this phrase “in the building” is strange “manager speak” to me - especially in an outdoor sport.
Up our sleeve?
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Midweek games are perfect for me! I can watch at 8 a.m.(ish) as opposed to 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning. Plus we might get a couple more bodies in and up to speed before the next game. I think we'll know what our "ambition" is by the end of this window.
Regarding the postponement, I can't remember too many games being called off at Belle Vue. It was one of the best playing surfaces in the country. I saw many games on a snow covered pitch with the old orange ball. Aahh, memories! Health and safety was well down the list of priorities in the 60's and 70's.
RTID
The close proximity of the lake will not help temperatures rise very quick
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Fair play to the ref who did the pitch inspection turned out to be a good call
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There’s the walk ways around the stadium to consider too.
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Some of our fans are living in cloud cuckoo land, wanting to blame the club for anything.
Find it utterly bizarre, depressing and is a caustic trait
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The sun hasn’t broken through the fog here, there is still Frost on the rooftops, not a chance the pitch will thaw before 3pm
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Midweek games are perfect for me! I can watch at 8 a.m.(ish) as opposed to 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning. Plus we might get a couple more bodies in and up to speed before the next game. I think we'll know what our "ambition" is by the end of this window.
Regarding the postponement, I can't remember too many games being called off at Belle Vue. It was one of the best playing surfaces in the country. I saw many games on a snow covered pitch with the old orange ball. Aahh, memories! Health and safety was well down the list of priorities in the 60's and 70's.
RTID
The close proximity of the lake will not help temperatures rise very quick
There are geological and geographical factors that contribute to why the Eco and large parts of Donny are more susceptible to frost.
Freezing fog rolling in from the Don Valley now.
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
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By all accounts, the board had this planned to stop the protest. :woot :turd::
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
I’d have a bet that it would cost more running undersoil heating than what they’ve lost
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
It would cost them more to have it
COYR
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By all accounts, the board had this planned to stop the protest. :woot :turd::
Yeah Baldwin got God to bring down the fog and freeze the pitch
COYR
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
Look into it Sammy and let us know the results of your cost/benefit analysis.
Let's not forget, not all postponements are purely down to frost that undersoil heating would address.
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If the fog at 3 is like it is outside my window right now then don't think you would of seen much of the action anyway
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It’s not without cost to rearrange but in this league the away crowds are largely not material and also the gearing of our season ticket holders vs our overall home gate is very high, so the amount of floating support that might not come to a rearranged game is minimal. While it’s unfortunate some season ticket holders might not make a midweek game, financially they’ve already paid for that game so whether they turn up or not is irrelevant. A different issue is visual and vocal impact of lower crowd but financially it won’t really matter in terms of gate money.
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
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Worksop Town home game still on in the NPL also. :zzz:
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
Because it's a 4g pitch so weather conditions have minimal effect on it?
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
Because it's a 4g pitch so weather conditions have minimal effect on it?
Brilliant lol
I was going to go to Shirebrook but that’s off too
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
Look into it Sammy and let us know the results of your cost/benefit analysis.
Let's not forget, not all postponements are purely down to frost that undersoil heating would address.
Why would I do a cost benefit analysis for a fans forum, it’s an opinion. That’s what the forum is for not just putting things that agree with the board.
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Midweek games are perfect for me! I can watch at 8 a.m.(ish) as opposed to 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning. Plus we might get a couple more bodies in and up to speed before the next game. I think we'll know what our "ambition" is by the end of this window.
Regarding the postponement, I can't remember too many games being called off at Belle Vue. It was one of the best playing surfaces in the country. I saw many games on a snow covered pitch with the old orange ball. Aahh, memories! Health and safety was well down the list of priorities in the 60's and 70's.
RTID
The close proximity of the lake will not help temperatures rise very quick
There are geological and geographical factors that contribute to why the Eco and large parts of Donny are more susceptible to frost.
Freezing fog rolling in from the Don Valley now.
Everywhere is susceptible to frost including Chesterfield and Scarborough
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
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We're not playing at Upton, Upton. It's 1-degree in Doncaster, you know, where the Rovers play.
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
Still foggy and freezing here
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
Because it's a 4g pitch so weather conditions have minimal effect on it?
Good answer. Just wanted to see who knew that. No I had no idea. So thanks for info.
Worksop have a 3G pitch also I think come to think of it.
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
Look into it Sammy and let us know the results of your cost/benefit analysis.
Let's not forget, not all postponements are purely down to frost that undersoil heating would address.
Why would I do a cost benefit analysis for a fans forum, it’s an opinion. That’s what the forum is for not just putting things that agree with the board.
Your statement didn't sound like an opinion or a question.
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
I am moving the 3 miles to Upton then if you get heat waves in January.
6 degrees my foot. It is is 1 degree in Campsall at 12.28 pm. and Fog. Pull the other one Upton. :rolleyes:
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
I am moving the 3 miles to Upton then if you get heat waves in January.
6 degrees my foot. It is is 1 degree in Campsall at 12.28 pm. and Fog. Pull the other one Upton. :rolleyes:
Feel free to move to sunny Upton a just dropped to 5 degrees same as Hemsworth
Check your garden lawn if you have one, mine were frozen at 8am now perfect.
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Amazed how many games in the EFL have got called off so late.
No thought for the travelling fans whatsoever.
Hartlepool having a second inspection at 1-00 pm. Barmy.
Think we did well calling it off when we did. Just straightforward common sense. Pity it isn’t used more often by most clubs.
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
not really the club have saved thousands not installing it and having it on
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
I am moving the 3 miles to Upton then if you get heat waves in January.
6 degrees my foot. It is is 1 degree in Campsall at 12.28 pm. and Fog. Pull the other one Upton. :rolleyes:
Clearly Upton is just trying to wind you up Campsall. It aint gonna be 5 degrees. Even met office have it as only being 2 but feels like -1
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/forecast/gcx0fv4sn#?nearestTo=Upton%20(Wakefield)&date=2023-01-21
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
I am moving the 3 miles to Upton then if you get heat waves in January.
6 degrees my foot. It is is 1 degree in Campsall at 12.28 pm. and Fog. Pull the other one Upton. :rolleyes:
Feel free to move to sunny Upton a just dropped to 5 degrees same as Hemsworth
Check your garden lawn if you have one, mine were frozen at 8am now perfect.
Just been out on my lawn and it is rock hard in most places. Definitely dangerous to play football.
Do you have artificial turf Upton. My lawn is real grass. :)
I think you are trying to reel me in on this one. :woot:
No way is your climate substantially better in Upton, South Elmsall or Hemsworth.
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
I am moving the 3 miles to Upton then if you get heat waves in January.
6 degrees my foot. It is is 1 degree in Campsall at 12.28 pm. and Fog. Pull the other one Upton. :rolleyes:
Feel free to move to sunny Upton a just dropped to 5 degrees same as Hemsworth
Check your garden lawn if you have one, mine were frozen at 8am now perfect.
Just been out on my lawn and it is rock hard in most places. Definitely dangerous to play football.
Do you have artificial turf Upton. My lawn is real grass. :)
I think you are trying to reel me in on this one. :woot:
No way is your climate substantially better in Upton, South Elmsall or Hemsworth.
my lawn in the back is still white over, my car on the front is still white over
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
I am moving the 3 miles to Upton then if you get heat waves in January.
6 degrees my foot. It is is 1 degree in Campsall at 12.28 pm. and Fog. Pull the other one Upton. :rolleyes:
Feel free to move to sunny Upton a just dropped to 5 degrees same as Hemsworth
Check your garden lawn if you have one, mine were frozen at 8am now perfect.
Just been out on my lawn and it is rock hard in most places. Definitely dangerous to play football.
Do you have artificial turf Upton. My lawn is real grass. :)
I think you are trying to reel me in on this one. :woot:
No way is your climate substantially better in Upton, South Elmsall or Hemsworth.
my lawn in the back is still white over, my car on the front is still white over
My car is red
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https://fb.watch/ibDWlTxZIK/
Not sure if this link works for everyone but here's today's training sesh at the stadium.
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Grimsby v Harrogate just gone. Ridiculous. All the travelling Town fans will be either there already or almost there.
Unbelievable Jeff.
Carlisle fans will have got most of way to Bradford etc etc
Just so thoughtless. The fans just don’t seem to come into the thinking do they.
Well done DRFC yesterday.
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Midweek games are perfect for me! I can watch at 8 a.m.(ish) as opposed to 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning. Plus we might get a couple more bodies in and up to speed before the next game. I think we'll know what our "ambition" is by the end of this window.
Regarding the postponement, I can't remember too many games being called off at Belle Vue. It was one of the best playing surfaces in the country. I saw many games on a snow covered pitch with the old orange ball. Aahh, memories! Health and safety was well down the list of priorities in the 60's and 70's.
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The close proximity of the lake will not help temperatures rise very quick
There are geological and geographical factors that contribute to why the Eco and large parts of Donny are more susceptible to frost.
Freezing fog rolling in from the Don Valley now.
Not only that but the design of the Keepmoat, as good as it is, allows for cold air, once it has dropped into it, to sit there, like a trap. Because it’s fully enclosed it allows little wind to cross it. So it becomes a cold air well. Add to that the west stand side never sees sun, and it’s a recipe for frozen pitch lasting much longer than an open exposed pitch.
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Been to the eco power this morning, was minus 3 at half ten & still minus 1 at noon, the sun never looked like getting through the fog.
No chance this would have been on, good early decision by the clubs & officials.
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9/12 league 2 fixtures now off.
I guess, according to some, that’s 9 clubs which are “total jokes” eh.?
It’s winter, we’ll postpone some games with the weather, some folks just need to get over it.
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Midweek games are perfect for me! I can watch at 8 a.m.(ish) as opposed to 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning. Plus we might get a couple more bodies in and up to speed before the next game. I think we'll know what our "ambition" is by the end of this window.
Regarding the postponement, I can't remember too many games being called off at Belle Vue. It was one of the best playing surfaces in the country. I saw many games on a snow covered pitch with the old orange ball. Aahh, memories! Health and safety was well down the list of priorities in the 60's and 70's.
RTID
The close proximity of the lake will not help temperatures rise very quick
There are geological and geographical factors that contribute to why the Eco and large parts of Donny are more susceptible to frost.
Freezing fog rolling in from the Don Valley now.
Not only that but the design of the Keepmoat, as good as it is, allows for cold air, once it has dropped into it, to sit there, like a trap. Because it’s fully enclosed it allows little wind to cross it. So it becomes a cold air well. Add to that the west stand side never sees sun, and it’s a recipe for frozen pitch lasting much longer than an open exposed pitch.
Knew it, they should have designed a stadium with a roof in at the start of the planning process. Pathetic sack the board
COYR
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Posh game just gone at 1-30
Charlton fans will be well impressed. Oh it’s Charlton Athletic. :clapping:
No just kidding really. Just ridiculous leaving it so late.
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I’ve just driven to Cleethorpes. Just after Scunny the skies cleared and there os no visible frost on the ground. I’ve just seen the Harrogate Town team bus on its way back home after a late pitch inspection. No doubt plenty of fans too.
It was a good early call from us yesterday. Most games in L1 and 2 ate now off
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Salford fans will not be happy either today
https://salfordcityfc.co.uk/barrow-off-210123/
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Salford fans will not be happy either today
https://salfordcityfc.co.uk/barrow-off-210123/
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Sounds like the same scenario as a we had at Weston Super Mare. Corner of the pitch. Well done ref.
Just cost 50 Salford fans unnecessary expense. ;)
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9/12 league 2 fixtures now off.
I guess, according to some, that’s 9 clubs which are “total jokes” eh.?
It’s winter, we’ll postpone some games with the weather, some folks just need to get over it.
Yes the idiots are looking like idiots now
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Only 3 fixtures left in Lg.2, it makes the ref at Rovers look extremely sensible doesn't it?
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Agreed Barnby. It also makes some of our so called fans on here and on Twitter look even more idiotic.
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Disappointed it’s off but if your going to call a game off we’ve done it the right way.
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9/12 league 2 fixtures now off.
I guess, according to some, that’s 9 clubs which are “total jokes” eh.?
It’s winter, we’ll postpone some games with the weather, some folks just need to get over it.
Yes the idiots are looking like idiots now
The idiots are not talking about the frost we all know what the temperatures have been, what the idiots are saying to the yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir brown tongue brigade, IS we should prepare well for frosts, and all that means is investing in the correct covers to protect for -5 temperatures. We have had these sheets since the championship days and they keep frost off up to -2 any idiot knows that.
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There are plenty of clubs as big if not bigger than us who have had to postpone today - Bradford, Peterborough, Lincoln City. This is climatic, not underinvestment or mismanagement. If you read the groundstaff report yesterday we had the covers down two days before the frost arrived. It was just too consistently cold.
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9/12 league 2 fixtures now off.
I guess, according to some, that’s 9 clubs which are “total jokes” eh.?
It’s winter, we’ll postpone some games with the weather, some folks just need to get over it.
Yes the idiots are looking like idiots now
The idiots are not talking about the frost we all know what the temperatures have been, what the idiots are saying to the yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir brown tongue brigade, IS we should prepare well for frosts, and all that means is investing in the correct covers to protect for -5 temperatures. We have had these sheets since the championship days and they keep frost off up to -2 any idiot knows that.
And how often do we have repeated temperatures of less than -2.?
I guess the 8 other clubs in league two with frozen pitches today should invest in better covers?
How many games have we postponed for wintry weather since moving to the KM?
As above, it’s winter, get over it.
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Only 3 fixtures left in Lg.2, it makes the ref at Rovers look extremely sensible doesn't it?
It obviously wasn't the match referee who made the sensible decision. It would have been the first good decision in his life if it was.
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Posh game just gone at 1-30
Charlton fans will be well impressed. Oh it’s Charlton Athletic. :clapping:
No just kidding really. Just ridiculous leaving it so late.
That’s shocking. I bet their supporter coaches had got there.
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9/12 league 2 fixtures now off.
I guess, according to some, that’s 9 clubs which are “total jokes” eh.?
It’s winter, we’ll postpone some games with the weather, some folks just need to get over it.
Yes the idiots are looking like idiots now
The idiots are not talking about the frost we all know what the temperatures have been, what the idiots are saying to the yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir brown tongue brigade, IS we should prepare well for frosts, and all that means is investing in the correct covers to protect for -5 temperatures. We have had these sheets since the championship days and they keep frost off up to -2 any idiot knows that.
Good of you to acknowledge they are idiots
Numerous matches called off today, it seems we are not alone, one match called of 10 mins before the team sheets were due to be submitted, that is taking the piss
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Would you believe it.
Hemsworth MW home game still on in the NEC Premier League.
Most of the games in the Premier league are off. All in the 1st Div off.
Now can someone tell me how can their pitch be possibly be fit to play.
It is still sub zero in Campsall and very foggy. Frickley is off.
Are they leaving it to later for an inspection? Seems stupid as it ain’t going to make a difference surely.
fantastic sunshine now at 6 degrees
I am moving the 3 miles to Upton then if you get heat waves in January.
6 degrees my foot. It is is 1 degree in Campsall at 12.28 pm. and Fog. Pull the other one Upton. :rolleyes:
Feel free to move to sunny Upton a just dropped to 5 degrees same as Hemsworth
Check your garden lawn if you have one, mine were frozen at 8am now perfect.
Just been out on my lawn and it is rock hard in most places. Definitely dangerous to play football.
Do you have artificial turf Upton. My lawn is real grass. :)
I think you are trying to reel me in on this one. :woot:
No way is your climate substantially better in Upton, South Elmsall or Hemsworth.
he can’t reply he is having a bbq in back garden
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9/12 league 2 fixtures now off.
I guess, according to some, that’s 9 clubs which are “total jokes” eh.?
It’s winter, we’ll postpone some games with the weather, some folks just need to get over it.
Yes the idiots are looking like idiots now
The idiots are not talking about the frost we all know what the temperatures have been, what the idiots are saying to the yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir brown tongue brigade, IS we should prepare well for frosts, and all that means is investing in the correct covers to protect for -5 temperatures. We have had these sheets since the championship days and they keep frost off up to -2 any idiot knows that.
Good of you to acknowledge they are idiots
Numerous matches called off today, it seems we are not alone, one match called of 10 mins before the team sheets were due to be submitted, that is taking the piss
I totally agree with you about been called off so close to 3pm and totally agree that it was the correct decision to call our game off on Friday it makes total sense. The posts that I have made are purely aimed at WHY, it’s 2023 and we should with modern technology be able to keep temperatures of -5 penetrating the pitch, and I no we can do that, it’s not expensive to do so and it’s more profitable to stage a game on a Saturday than 7:45 on a Tuesday
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‘It’s not expensive to do so’. How much does it cost then Upton, as I have no idea.
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Cost the club a lot of money over the years, not having under soil heating .
Look into it Sammy and let us know the results of your cost/benefit analysis.
Let's not forget, not all postponements are purely down to frost that undersoil heating would address.
Why would I do a cost benefit analysis for a fans forum, it’s an opinion. That’s what the forum is for not just putting things that agree with the board.
Your statement didn't sound like an opinion or a question.
I can’t be like some on here, where they have to put in my opinion after everything they say. It is purely an opinion. I’m quite aware upkeep of a heating system would be a lot. It would have cost us more in the championship than now in postponements of games and league one when we had decent crowds.
Not as much now as the club falls backwards done the league’s as it has done recently. Hopefully Schofield can turn that around for us.
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9/12 league 2 fixtures now off.
I guess, according to some, that’s 9 clubs which are “total jokes” eh.?
It’s winter, we’ll postpone some games with the weather, some folks just need to get over it.
Yes the idiots are looking like idiots now
The idiots are not talking about the frost we all know what the temperatures have been, what the idiots are saying to the yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir brown tongue brigade, IS we should prepare well for frosts, and all that means is investing in the correct covers to protect for -5 temperatures. We have had these sheets since the championship days and they keep frost off up to -2 any idiot knows that.
Good of you to acknowledge they are idiots
Numerous matches called off today, it seems we are not alone, one match called of 10 mins before the team sheets were due to be submitted, that is taking the piss
I totally agree with you about been called off so close to 3pm and totally agree that it was the correct decision to call our game off on Friday it makes total sense. The posts that I have made are purely aimed at WHY, it’s 2023 and we should with modern technology be able to keep temperatures of -5 penetrating the pitch, and I no we can do that, it’s not expensive to do so and it’s more profitable to stage a game on a Saturday than 7:45 on a Tuesday
Short of having full on under soil heating the only way of doing this would be to place a slightly raised cover over the pitch and then have blown heated air pumped under said cover. Like large industrial heat blowers. I can’t imagine they would be very cheap to run, As they would have to be on day and night for days on end. Not cost effective me thinks.
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You’d probably also end up with a waterlogged pitch.
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Don't have a clue why today's game was called off when all I've heard for the past 18 month's is global warming
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‘It’s not expensive to do so’. How much does it cost then Upton, as I have no idea.
There’s a company called match saver that do several different pitch covers and i used to work for a company that made & supplied the materials to such companies and they would cost approximately £40000, however I’m sure that with costs on things now, they would be greater. I saw the covers on the pitch and the outer single black ones are almost no good at all, it’s a single cover at most 2mm thick, you could see that the centre ones were a lot better. You need several layers to combat frost, just like layers on a human, the more you have the better you stay warm. 1 sheet is just a frost catcher and can be more problematic than they are worth.
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As we know racecourses have them any chance we could borrow some from one ?
Anyone know where the nearest racecourse is
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Even they buggered up their last big Meeting.
Covers on to protect Course which they did but they took them off to allow day 1 to go ahead even though the premium days racing was yhe day after that
Apparently the covers have to be on for as long as possible and take 8 hours to put down
They couldn't put them down till day 1 racing was ended by which time it was getting dark. So they lost the big race the next day and all the other prestigious races.
Tell em folks ...
Sacrifice day 1 and save day 2
Sack the Races Board LOL
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Are Astro pitches the answer and are they so terrible? most players play on them until 18 yrs old anyway.
Our first team trained on ours and the u18s followed them playing v Harrogate this
morning on the Astro pitch at the Eco Stadium while the u14s and 13s trained on the other Astro pitch, the fog was worse than the frost to the occasion.
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Rugby called off as well.
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Don't have a clue why today's game was called off when all I've heard for the past 18 month's is global warming
Staggering lack of awareness of what global warming actually is.
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Are Astro pitches the answer and are they so terrible? most players play on them until 18 yrs old anyway.
Our first team trained on ours and the u18s followed them playing v Harrogate this
morning on the Astro pitch at the Eco Stadium while the u14s and 13s trained on the other Astro pitch, the fog was worse than the frost to the occasion.
I have played on the Worksop pitch quite a few times over the last two years and it is way better than playing on grass.
The surface is more true, no bobbles, so passing and receiving the ball is done with more confidence.
I have played there after heavy rain and once during a really cold spell and there has been no noticeable difference.
Oh, and no skin burns if knocked over.
I remember back in the 80’s playing on some of the original “plastic pitches” and they were horrible.
The ball bounced much higher than on a grass pitch and if you did get knocked over invariable you got the skin burns due to the sand type of finish that they had.
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Eastern European and other teams play in European competitions on Astro I can't see any reason not to let league sides have Asro pitches other than obstinacy to change.
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Some people also forget that wintry weather doesn’t only affect the pitch. No point in preserving a playing surface at -7 etc if it’s dangerous to travel or walk around the stadium environs?
I ask again, in the 16 years since we left BV, how many games have been off due to weather?
I get that folks are frustrated when games are postponed, but it’s not the end of the world is it?
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Some people also forget that wintry weather doesn’t only affect the pitch. No point in preserving a playing surface at -7 etc if it’s dangerous to travel or walk around the stadium environs?
I ask again, in the 16 years since we left BV, how many games have been off due to weather?
I get that folks are frustrated when games are postponed, but it’s not the end of the world is it?
You could get 4” of snow 15 miles from the stadium and none there, is it then dangerous for the fans that come that area of snow ??
Frost should be no issues around the stadium
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Try telling Elfnsafety that
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It because around the stadium if someone gets hurt then questions will be asked and someone will be found liable. Someone gets hurt on the way to the grounds then that is a separate issue. That is the way of the world now.
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It because around the stadium if someone gets hurt then questions will be asked and someone will be found liable. Someone gets hurt on the way to the grounds then that is a separate issue. That is the way of the world now.
If the club attempts to clear snow or ice from around the ground and terraces and someone gets hurt, then they become liable, because they have attempted to remove the issue and not succeed. If they leave it alone and someone gets hurt, then they’re not liable, silly laws but you can understand why games are called off for the safety of fans.
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Admittedly some clubs are totally rapacious beasts but I’d like to think the majority of clubs and certainly Rovers wouldn’t actively put supporters in danger.
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It because around the stadium if someone gets hurt then questions will be asked and someone will be found liable. Someone gets hurt on the way to the grounds then that is a separate issue. That is the way of the world now.
If the club attempts to clear snow or ice from around the ground and terraces and someone gets hurt, then they become liable, because they have attempted to remove the issue and not succeed. If they leave it alone and someone gets hurt, then they’re not liable, silly laws but you can understand why games are called off for the safety of fans.
Regardless of the pitch condition.?