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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: bpoolrover on January 25, 2023, 01:58:23 pm
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BBC Sheffield saying ds say we’re most likely done on anymore incoming transfers, let’s hope no centre midfielders get injured
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I hope that isn't the case.
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I hope that’s a smoke screen because we desperately need a minimum of one centre midfielder
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If that’s the case I hope we hear justification why not we have needed a box to box midfielder for a long time
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We'll see in a few days time. Really really poor if so. We're going into the second half of the season paying less in wages than at the start of it!
Hopefully a smoke screen. We've been told we have a solid January budget before even anyone retired or sold in January.
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Cost cutting FC
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Obviously not what I want to hear, the need is there, but if the right player for this system isn't there for the right price I can't blame DS and JC for wanting to wait instead of forcing something in desperation.
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No way on earth we won’t sign a midfielder.
To not do so wouldn’t be just tight, it would be neglect!
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Hope this is not true, although I haven’t seen it reported anywhere
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Poor window if nobody else comes in.
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Hope this is not true, although I haven’t seen it reported anywhere
on bbc Sheffield site and free press
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I mean this is either a smokescreen or we've gone backwards and the cost cutting talk is correct.
We've seen going out since August some chunky paid important first teamers and brought in some very young loanees. We have two fit central midfielders, no number ten, no target man and only one left back plus Rowe to covers all those positions.
Very worrying that a window we needed to go forwards in has gone backwards substantially.
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Tommy Rowe back from injury……….for god sake start and back the club and less pessimism
You lot are never happy
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Hope this is not true, although I haven’t seen it reported anywhere
on bbc Sheffield site and free press
To be fair since Hoden left the Free Press they have fed on scraps
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“Probably done” /“pretty much done” reads to me that they have bit more to do yet
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Beware slightly misleading headlines....
I've yet to hear the full RS interview, but the DFP reports it as DS saying we're pretty much on the way.
"A box-to-box midfielder to boost competition in central midfield remains on Schofield’s wish list following Adam Clayton’s departure last week".
I keep saying it, take what you read or hear with a pinch of salt until you hear it directly from the horses mouth!
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DFP
Says
Pretty much Done But??
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-pretty-much-done-in-january-transfer-market-says-danny-schofield-4000868
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Can you imagine what it would have been like if we hadn't sold KK?
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Can you imagine what it would have been like if we hadn't sold KK?
We don't have to imagine.
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That surely can’t be the case. We were told funds were available before January and then we got rid of 2 of our highest earners on top of that. Yet we’ve only brought in 3 loanees and a player from the conference. Really poor
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The obvious priorities at the start of the window were a central option to Miller, a central midfielder and a wide player with genuine pace.
We got the lad in from Brighton out wide. Lavery is potentially a central striking option.
But central midfield is arguably now net weaker as Clayton has left. We have Close, Biggins and then potentially Rowe as the only central options. Rowe obviously not great in the centre, is not going to be back for a week or two yet, and might be needed on the left anyway. This is beside the point of our central midfield being pretty poor anyway.
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Let’s wait and see. People jump the gun. He said/she said/ they said etc. How do you know a player or more have been done in a deal but not announced.
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That surely can’t be the case. We were told funds were available before January and then we got rid of 2 of our highest earners on top of that. Yet we’ve only brought in 3 loanees and a player from the conference. Really poor
The only thing that will determine how good or poor is whether the team performs better and wins games.
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That surely can’t be the case. We were told funds were available before January and then we got rid of 2 of our highest earners on top of that. Yet we’ve only brought in 3 loanees and a player from the conference. Really poor
The only thing that will determine how good or poor is whether the team performs better and wins games.
we’re going to struggle to do that consistently with 2 centre midfielders though aren’t we
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Quite simply, he can’t be serious!
It’s got to be a smokescreen and if it isn’t we can almost guarantee a mid table to lower half finish in the league.
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Comical if true, shite window so far.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0dyr7lh
Listening to the whole interview puts another perspective in the mix.
Ideally he would like.."..a no. 8, a midfielder to provide competition in that area but I don't think we're desperate for that position"
For me it sounds like he thinks, particularly when and if Rowe gets back were covered.
Yes, we may see that differently and we'll have to wait and see whether Copps fulfills his wish.
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
More loans or permanents?
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
More loans or permanents?
Whatever is appropriate for a January window. I haven’t stuck my nose in as to the details, just that all options are on the table depending on how the work progresses.
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
To be fair, most folk can only go on what's being said in the public domain. Not many people have the inside track.
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
To be fair, most folk can only go on what's being said in the public domain. Not many people have the inside track.
Ultimately we should judge on actions rather than words. We hear the same thing every window.
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
To be fair, most folk can only go on what's being said in the public domain. Not many people have the inside track.
Ultimately we should judge on actions rather than words. We hear the same thing every window.
Yep. In my book this squad isn't good enough as it is currently to improve on our current league position and break into the top 7. I really hope that has changed by the end of the window.
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
More loans or permanents?
Whatever is appropriate for a January window. I haven’t stuck my nose in as to the details, just that all options are on the table depending on how the work progresses.
So the manger is telling lies to the press and ultimately the fans
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A manager can hardly say nothing when asked a reasonable question by a journalist but there are plenty of perfectly valid reasons he may not want to spill the beans immediately, so it is perfectly acceptable and understood by (almost) everyone that he may give a response that buys him some time.
A juvenile interpretation of that is that he is telling lies to the press.
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I'll reserve judgement until next Tuesday, and after our performance at Mansfield.
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I'll reserve judgement until next Tuesday, and after our performance at Mansfield.
Quite right, that’s just what I said to my future wife before we got married.
Mind you, honeymooning in Mansfield was a mistake.
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Basically shopping in poundland, finding Rigoglioso and conceding Tommy Rowe is the best option. Cant see Schofield sticking this out for long and I wouldnt blame him.
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You do know things in Poundland aren’t just a pound now and they sell dearer things lol
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Panic central again??
I can guarantee funds are available and the work continues!!
To be fair, most folk can only go on what's being said in the public domain. Not many people have the inside track.
My point is the interpretation of what’s being said. Even the thread title has an absolute about it.
Then others have taken that to conclude that cost cutting is proven to be the cause for any action, or inaction, by DS and JC. And yet in his interview he states he’s still looking to add to his squad.
This negativity is just feeding on itself and not doing anyone any good.
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Quite right SM there seems to be a rush to jump on anything that is not 100% positive. Personally I don’t think the DFP help things and are loving putting a negative spin on things
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Quite right SM there seems to be a rush to jump on anything that is not 100% positive. Personally I don’t think the DFP help things and are loving putting a negative spin on things
The DFP know what they are doing. It gains attention and that's the business they're in.
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Quite right SM there seems to be a rush to jump on anything that is not 100% positive. Personally I don’t think the DFP help things and are loving putting a negative spin on things
The DFP know what they are doing. It gains attention and that's the business they're in.
So you don't think a headline like "Rovers to splash the cash!!!" would get any attention?
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Quite right SM there seems to be a rush to jump on anything that is not 100% positive. Personally I don’t think the DFP help things and are loving putting a negative spin on things
The DFP know what they are doing. It gains attention and that's the business they're in.
So you don't think a headline like "Rovers to splash the cash!!!" would get any attention?
No because nobody would believe it.
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Cost of any transfers would go up
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If you worked for one of the local media outlets, and had your finger on the pulse with regard to the way our ‘supporters’ react on social media, what kind of headline would you go with? It’s clickbait. They’re doing their job and achieving the intended outcome. Got to respect that whether we like it or not. Every club in the country will have the same issues with the media.
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If you worked for one of the local media outlets, and had your finger on the pulse with regard to the way our ‘supporters’ react on social media, what kind of headline would you go with? It’s clickbait. They’re doing their job and achieving the intended outcome. Got to respect that whether we like it or not. Every club in the country will have the same issues with the media.
Yes you’re right don’t agree with the way DFP operates, lazy journalism but it obviously works for them
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If you worked for one of the local media outlets, and had your finger on the pulse with regard to the way our ‘supporters’ react on social media, what kind of headline would you go with? It’s clickbait. They’re doing their job and achieving the intended outcome. Got to respect that whether we like it or not. Every club in the country will have the same issues with the media.
Yes you’re right don’t agree with the way DFP operates, lazy journalism but it obviously works for them
Other than the stuff put out by the club, we 75% rely on DFP for their snippets. The rest made up by radio Sheffield, I’d love it for someone independent to be able to compete with them. We may get a better end product then
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But the DFP rely on information on here more often than not. As said previously click bait
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Let's see what happens by the end of the window and then by the end of the season. In the meantime let's put the Netto FC vs The Happy Clappers on hold and all group together supporting the lads on the pitch.
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Hope this is not true, although I haven’t seen it reported anywhere
on bbc Sheffield site and free press
To be fair since Hoden left the Free Press they have fed on scraps
Hoden is an a***hole
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I don’t have much confidence or optimism for any more incomings given our appalling recruitment in recent years, particularly our late window dealings, but there’s still a week to go so it’s pretty pointless speculating about how good a window it’s been right now. Let’s see where we are a week today.
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Canadian.
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You can’t rely on any of those players coming back and staying fit. If they want to be in with a chance of promotion then we need at least another two in. Yes some would need to leave to allow that.
I would try to move one of the strikers on and get another one in. Midfield we need another one. Miller badly needs a partner, hopefully Lavery is that man and not brought in as a bench warmer.
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Agreed about DFP reporting, and I would not put the house on a bet we don't sign any more players as all they do is repeat gossip of any type that suits their cause at the time and especially the threads on here that are disparaging to the club.
It's as old as the hills as the old great manager of Arsenal said in the 1930's "write about Arsenal even if its bad" and now the Free Press do the same thing to sell papers and people jump on the band wagon thinking everything they write is gospel and it's a new way of reporting, and it isn't on both counts.
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Agreed about DFP reporting, and I would not put the house on a bet we don't sign any more players as all they do is repeat gossip of any type that suits their cause at the time and especially the threads on here that are disparaging to the club.
It's as old as the hills as the old great manager of Arsenal said in the 1930's "write about Arsenal even if its bad" and now the Free Press do the same thing to sell papers and people jump on the band wagon thinking everything they write is gospel and it's a new way of reporting, and it isn't on both counts.
Thing is now Selby is all web based. Click bait. Website clicks and ad generated revenue - the thirst for news is gone just headlines.
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Hope this is not true, although I haven’t seen it reported anywhere
on bbc Sheffield site and free press
To be fair since Hoden left the Free Press they have fed on scraps
Hoden is an a***hole
Why?
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Hope this is not true, although I haven’t seen it reported anywhere
on bbc Sheffield site and free press
To be fair since Hoden left the Free Press they have fed on scraps
Hoden is an a***hole
Why?
I’ve had previous with him, giving false information just to make him look good in the eyes of those on social media outlets, let’s be honest the social media output from the club isn’t that great which apparently he’s responsible for
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In the last 12 months we have signed 22 players,
14 permanent and 8 loans.
Out of them 5 loans have been and gone
2 permanent players have gone.
1player is on loan
That leaves us with 14 players out of them still at the club at the moment which is 3 loans and 11 permanent. Although one is long term injured and 4 we’ve not seen yet. Big turnover of players. When you think out of the total squad we have 12 players out of contract this summer.
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In the last 12 months we have signed 22 players,
14 permanent and 8 loans.
Out of them 5 loans have been and gone
2 permanent players have gone.
1player is on loan
That leaves us with 14 players out of them still at the club at the moment which is 3 loans and 11 permanent. Although one is long term injured and 4 we’ve not seen yet. Big turnover of players. When you think out of the total squad we have 12 players out of contract this summer.
It sounds really bad but I bet there's some clubs who might have had more success, or avoided relegation, who have also had a high turnover of players.
Perhaps now with 18 man matchday squads these days, it's inevitable to a degree.
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Who are the forum moderators?
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Canadian. A******e
Bit out of context Spilsby
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Congratulations on getting my post removed Canadian. The issue was you thinking it’s ok to discriminate against people. But if you can’t take a criticism don’t put something down that might need an answer like that
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Congratulations on getting my post removed Canadian. The issue was you thinking it’s ok to discriminate against people. But if you can’t take a criticism don’t put something down that might need an answer like that
It was nothing of the sort. It was about people coming together as supporters.
I'll leave you to the forum and not contribute further.
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One way of avoiding poor signings is to sign nobody at all. I think I can see our game here now.
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Is the player we wanted for midfield gone to Northampton from Barnsley today or are we still waiting let’s not waste this we need another midfield player.
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Perhaps it is nothing more complicated than that the club have seen the folly of making desperate January signings in recent seasons and are determined not to repeat if the right ones aren't available.
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Perhaps it is nothing more complicated than that the club have seen the folly of making desperate January signings in recent seasons and are determined not to repeat if the right ones aren't available.
That’s good but how anybody can believe we’ve got enough central midfield players is beyond me. We Close and Biggins and Rowe ?? with Ravenhill as a back up but really not ready yet for league football.
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Agreed, Steve, though I didn't say I think nor suppose the club thinks we have enough CMs.
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A lot of success in life is about simply not making bad decisions. If there is no one suitable available, then so be it. But we can’t play the victim if there is an injury crisis in midfield.
Building a solid foundation for long term success is more important than scraping promotion with a short term fix this year in my opinion.
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12 players out of contract at the end of the season is hardly building a solid foundation!
1 injury and 1 sending off in midfield and we’re basically stuffed.
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12 players out of contract at the end of the season is hardly building a solid foundation!
1 injury and 1 sending off in midfield and we’re basically stuffed.
We can’t change the past but we can the future. As has been said previously, you wouldn’t want the majority of those 12 renewing anyway, would you?
We can’t build solid foundations by accepting poor standards just to make up the numbers.
Let’s see what T Miller and Brown are like. There is potential to sign them permanently afterwards.
Also, better players will be available in the summer.
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12 players out of contract at the end of the season is hardly building a solid foundation!
1 injury and 1 sending off in midfield and we’re basically stuffed.
Agree we need at least another midfielder.
But on the 12 out of contract players. You have to see that as an opportunity. We’ve all seen what the players we have got can offer. It’s been a big part of why we are in L2.
I’d much rather they be out of contract in the summer than on 2 year deals.
If 2 or 3 of the better ones sign extensions before the end of the season we’ll not miss the rest.
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12 players out of contract at the end of the season is hardly building a solid foundation!
1 injury and 1 sending off in midfield and we’re basically stuffed.
Agree we need at least another midfielder.
But on the 12 out of contract players. You have to see that as an opportunity. We’ve all seen what the players we have got can offer. It’s been a big part of why we are in L2.
I’d much rather they be out of contract in the summer than on 2 year deals.
If 2 or 3 of the better ones sign extensions before the end of the season we’ll not miss the rest.
I agree we need a midfielder. But at present I think no one is better than being stuck with any old shite for 2 years.
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So, if Close and Biggins are both out, who plays?
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Seaman, Rowe and Molyneux
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And Ravenhill. At least we know he doesn’t shirk a tackle
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Yellow card waiting to happen though
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Seaman, Rowe and Molyneux
That would be an absolutely dreadful central midfield, and just highlights the need for a signing or two if anything.
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Out of those 3, only TR could possibly do a job. As for the other 2 - mmmmm!
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Our midfield has been generally poor all season, that's without it being weakened again. Here's hoping!
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Obviously wasn’t quite done lol
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So the new boy was already training with the team this week?
Bloody sneaky that!
Time left in the window though. Any last requests?
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Yes - a defensive midfielder who can shield the defence, can tackle and turn the opposition.
I’ll not be holding my breath!
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Sounds like a box to box type. Says he won’t stop running and is 23. Should be a bit more suited to the system than Clayton then!
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Players being out of contract could work in our favour-something to prove. Nobody has pulled up any trees this season just like the previous season, although more promising. Miller would have more goals if the team around him had been providing better chances for him. We have a core of players that need retaining, the others depending on this season’s outcome, could be off to pastures new.