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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: roverstillidie91 on January 31, 2023, 09:00:07 pm
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Carlisle winning again tonight, has 46% win ratio.
Makes you wonder where we'd have been if we'd have opted for him last season.
Winning again tonight, it appears that some Rovers fans thought he wasn't good enough standard for us....
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Carlisle winning again tonight, has 46% win ratio.
Makes you wonder where we'd have been if we'd have opted for him last season.
Winning again tonight, it appears that some Rovers fans thought he wasn't good enough standard for us....
id suggest we’d probably be in better shape than we are now. But we’ll never know.
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If only it were that simple.
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Still in League One I reckon. Is the rumour of us not phoning him back to let him know he’d been unsuccessful true? It stinks if it is.
So many rotten decisions have been made in the last two years with regard to the running of the team. Not getting Simpson might well be the worst of them.
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Can’t remember a clamour to appoint him. Clearly he’d have been better than McSheffery though.
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When we beat Carlisle on New Years Day, we were clearly the better team and moved to within two points of them and had confidence that we could mount a promotion challenge.
Since then they have won 4/4 games and gained 12 points and we have lost 2/2 and gained 0 points. The net result is that from being on a high on New Years Day with a positive result and performance against a promotion challenger, they have moved 14 points clear of us and are now out of sight.
Our two defeats have been against promotion challengers in Leyton Orient and Mansfield and Carlisle have had some easier fixtures, but we have suffered from not playing for three weeks and have subsequently fallen behind in the play off race.
That doesn’t make Paul Simpson a fantastic Manager and Danny Schofield a terrible one - it’s just the ups and downs of football - we move on to Saturday and a chance to get three points to get us back into contention again. There’s still a long way to go this season.
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I have just got in and was going to start a Paul Simpson thread.
Got beaten to it.
It does make you wonder where we would be if he had got our job.
He hasn’t half turned Carlisle round and on a shoe string.
They haven’t spent any money, signed any top players as far as I can see.
Fantastic job done by him so far.
Anyway DS might given some time do a similar job for us.
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When we beat Carlisle on New Years Day, we were clearly the better team and moved to within two points of them and had confidence that we could mount a promotion challenge.
Since then they have won 4/4 games and gained 12 points and we have lost 2/2 and gained 0 points. The net result is that from being on a high on New Years Day with a positive result and performance against a promotion challenger, they have moved 14 points clear of us and are now out of sight.
Our two defeats have been against promotion challengers in Leyton Orient and Mansfield and Carlisle have had some easier fixtures, but we have suffered from not playing for three weeks and have subsequently fallen behind in the play off race.
That doesn’t make Paul Simpson a fantastic Manager and Danny Schofield a terrible one - it’s just the ups and downs of football - we move on to Saturday and a chance to get three points to get us back into contention again. There’s still a long way to go this season.
Just trying to think of an "UP" for Schofield?
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Different club, different set of players. We had a lot of success while Carlisle were in the doldrums.
I wasn’t among those who thought he wasn’t good enough, but I’ve been really disappointed the candidates that the board have come up with every time we’ve changed manager.
There is no reason why Danny can’t be a success. Everyone knows nowadays you don’t get time to build a team and club.
The squad we have should be around the top three in this league. We aren’t because of poor decisions by managers, players and ultimately the board.
It has been going on for a fair few years. You have to show ambition to get ambitious managers wanting to manage your team. We struggle for good crowds. We are trying to be sustainable without realising that the club badly needs a couple of top signings to give everyone a boost.
The whole club is in one massive hole, it keeps trying to climb out of it ,but keeps slipping down the muddy sides.
For a while our club was admired for the football it played and the way we went about things. Somewhere along the way we lost this and became an ordinary, run of the mill lower league side-it’s sad to see.
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Different club, different set of players. We had a lot of success while Carlisle were in the doldrums.
I wasn’t among those who thought he wasn’t good enough, but I’ve been really disappointed the candidates that the board have come up with every time we’ve changed manager.
There is no reason why Danny can’t be a success. Everyone knows nowadays you don’t get time to build a team and club.
The squad we have should be around the top three in this league. We aren’t because of poor decisions by managers, players and ultimately the board.
It has been going on for a fair few years. You have to show ambition to get ambitious managers wanting to manage your team. We struggle for good crowds. We are trying to be sustainable without realising that the club badly needs a couple of top signings to give everyone a boost.
The whole club is in one massive hole, it keeps trying to climb out of it ,but keeps slipping down the muddy sides.
For a while our club was admired for the football it played and the way we went about things. Somewhere along the way we lost this and became an ordinary, run of the mill lower league side-it’s sad to see.
Our gates have actually held up quite well considering how bad we were last season and where we currently are this season.
Ave 6.300 isn’t bad at all.
Only Bradford, Stockport & Swindon significantly above us.
Wimbledon are still enjoying their new ground bounce and getting about 7.500. Leyton Orient are top so expect their gates to be higher. Still averaging under 8.000 though.
No way can we say we are poorly supported this season based on results. If we were top we would only be averaging around 8.000 i would think. This is League 2 we are in not the Championship.
Ave away followings are much smaller also in this league
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The average gate of 6,300 though includes the ST holders who aren't attending. My guess is that their absence shows the vast majority of those are unlikely to renew next time, why would they pay to not attend?
Quite honestly it is burying your head in the sand using the attendance average to say things aren't so bad.
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The average gate of 6,300 though includes the ST holders who aren't attending. My guess is that their absence shows the vast majority of those are unlikely to renew next time, why would they pay to not attend?
Quite honestly it is burying your head in the sand using the attendance average to say things aren't so bad.
So how many season ticket holders are not attending?
If it averages more than 200 per game i would be astounded.
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Campsall, it is clear to anyone sat in the West stand and probably anywhere else in the ground that the occupancy is very significantly down. Asking anyone other than the club 'how many' is just being obtuse. Nevertheless, your estimate of 200 is in my opinion just another example of burying head in sand. My estimate would be minimum of 1000 fewer bodies in the home seats.
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Campsall, it is clear to anyone sat in the West stand and probably anywhere else in the ground that the occupancy is very significantly down. Asking anyone other than the club 'how many' is just being obtuse. Nevertheless, your estimate of 200 is in my opinion just another example of burying head in sand. My estimate would be minimum of 1000 fewer bodies in the home seats.
So 1.000 out of 4.000 ticket holders are not turning up. Seriously. What a waste of money.
Come on that is simply not the case.
I sit in the West stand down towards the South Stand end and imo don’t agree with you.
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Campsall, I didn't say that 1,000 season ticket holders were not turning up although given the context of the discussion I can see why you might make that interpretation, so I apologise for that. My meaning was that I estimate a thousand fewer bodies were in the stadium.
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I know 3 ST holders that have barely seen 6 home games this season. I didn’t renew at all.
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Camps, you are way off the mark with this. Anyone can see there's been nothing like 6000 and odd in the ground recently. I no longer trail up to the ground for midweek games, I watch on iFollow, and I know lots who are the same.
As regards a waste of money, it isn't, because we're supporting the club financially, as good supporters should do.
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Some aspects avoidable, some aspects unavoidable - it’s basically a poor spectacle for people to attend. There are usually few away fans as we are playing nobody teams, so little atmosphere in the ground. The quality of the football from us and the opposition is usually bad. There are no real characters or personalities to bond with in our team. We are neither winning or performing regularly. Everyone is getting hammered by inflation. Food and drink offer is dire. It’s generally not something worth attending unless you are a hardened supporter.
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The average gate of 6,300 though includes the ST holders who aren't attending. My guess is that their absence shows the vast majority of those are unlikely to renew next time, why would they pay to not attend?
Quite honestly it is burying your head in the sand using the attendance average to say things aren't so bad.
I'm a season ticket holder that's had the same seat since the new ground opened. I've missed more games than I've been to this season.
Ok, I've been on holiday twice, but to be honest I can hardly be bothered driving from Scarborough for every game, especially night games. Absolutely hate it.
If we were playing well it wouldn't be so bad, but a round trip of 150 miles to watch the absolute garbage we've been served up the last 2 years is just not worth it. That's how bad it is.
Will I renew next season? I really don't know, but the way I feel at the moment I honestly don't think I cba
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When we beat Carlisle on New Years Day, we were clearly the better team and moved to within two points of them and had confidence that we could mount a promotion challenge.
Since then they have won 4/4 games and gained 12 points and we have lost 2/2 and gained 0 points. The net result is that from being on a high on New Years Day with a positive result and performance against a promotion challenger, they have moved 14 points clear of us and are now out of sight.
Our two defeats have been against promotion challengers in Leyton Orient and Mansfield and Carlisle have had some easier fixtures, but we have suffered from not playing for three weeks and have subsequently fallen behind in the play off race.
That doesn’t make Paul Simpson a fantastic Manager and Danny Schofield a terrible one - it’s just the ups and downs of football - we move on to Saturday and a chance to get three points to get us back into contention again. There’s still a long way to go this season.
We didn’t get any of those three points against Hartlepool but what a difference another week can make!
Three games for Carlisle with just one point and nine points for Rovers and we are back in contention again.
This is what I meant by the ‘Ups and Downs of football’ (see above)
I’ll bet Carlisle fans are calling for their managers head tonight after a 4-0 home defeat. I think that Danny Schofield is safe - at least for another week anyway.
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When we beat Carlisle on New Years Day, we were clearly the better team and moved to within two points of them and had confidence that we could mount a promotion challenge.
Since then they have won 4/4 games and gained 12 points and we have lost 2/2 and gained 0 points. The net result is that from being on a high on New Years Day with a positive result and performance against a promotion challenger, they have moved 14 points clear of us and are now out of sight.
Our two defeats have been against promotion challengers in Leyton Orient and Mansfield and Carlisle have had some easier fixtures, but we have suffered from not playing for three weeks and have subsequently fallen behind in the play off race.
That doesn’t make Paul Simpson a fantastic Manager and Danny Schofield a terrible one - it’s just the ups and downs of football - we move on to Saturday and a chance to get three points to get us back into contention again. There’s still a long way to go this season.
We didn’t get any of those three points against Hartlepool but what a difference another week can make!
Three games for Carlisle with just one point and nine points for Rovers and we are back in contention again.
This is what I meant by the ‘Ups and Downs of football’ (see above)
I’ll bet Carlisle fans are calling for their managers head tonight after a 4-0 home defeat. I think that Danny Schofield is safe - at least for another week anyway.
I’d be surprised if there’s any Carlisle fan wanting Simpson to be sacked.