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Title: Pathetic
Post by: coventryrover on February 04, 2023, 03:48:45 pm
Both the chants for sack the board and the half arsed efforts.   Low standard..just like Netto
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: bpoolrover on February 04, 2023, 03:52:20 pm
Both the chants for sack the board and the half arsed efforts.   Low standard..just like Netto
along with the standard of football in that 1st half
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 04, 2023, 03:52:39 pm
Knoyle scored the opener today for Stockport County.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 04, 2023, 04:02:43 pm
Both the chants for sack the board and the half arsed efforts.   Low standard..just like Netto

Is it pathetic? I feel like the general consensus seems to be turning to the point where we need fresh leadership.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 04, 2023, 04:13:07 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: coventryrover on February 04, 2023, 04:44:19 pm
Both the chants for sack the board and the half arsed efforts.   Low standard..just like Netto

Is it pathetic? I feel like the general consensus seems to be turning to the point where we need fresh leadership.
  general  consensus would be more than 20 kids
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: bpoolrover on February 04, 2023, 04:51:21 pm
A lot more than 20 singing it now
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Retdon1 on February 04, 2023, 04:51:44 pm
We are a very poor side
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 04, 2023, 04:53:24 pm
Poor results and poor performance. A largely forgettable game, which is just as well.

Don't forget that Hartlepool have only won away at the very worst sides this season - Gillingham and Crawley. And now us.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Donnyjim on February 04, 2023, 04:53:44 pm
I have said it a thousand times. We are heading Scunthorpe’s way with the current regime. It’s just taken a while for the penny to drop for some.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Pside on February 04, 2023, 04:56:53 pm
Sooner the club is rid of this whole Doncaster DNA shite the better. Been saying it for a long time, we need a complete overhaul. Outside people with different ideas. We do the same thing over and over again and expect different results
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: bpoolrover on February 04, 2023, 04:58:58 pm
Worst rovers team for 25 years by far
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 04, 2023, 05:02:05 pm
I keep thinking we’ll turn it around and bottom out this season before pushing on. It’s getting harder and harder to keep that up.

I’m honestly scared for next season and it’s miles away. Been so long since DRFC excited me. Hardly react when we inevitably conceded now
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 04, 2023, 05:02:09 pm
Quite a few total fantasists making the case even recently that we are going to make the play offs. Today was exactly why we will not unless there is some miraculous transformation - aside from the fact we were facing a terrible side with terrible away form, we just did not today and have not at any point this season look like a side that wants to get promoted. There are no leaders and no winners in that squad. Not one.

We will get enough points to stay up and we are going to have to accept that and hope the summer can deliver something significant in reshaping the squad and mindset.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Fal on February 04, 2023, 05:02:49 pm
It’s okay guys club Doncaster is self sustainable…

2 years of this shite and I’ve had enough of it now!
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: mushRTID on February 04, 2023, 05:08:18 pm
Honestly thought this thread was about the performance.

We are useless.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 04, 2023, 05:10:58 pm
It’s weird we’re kind of doing a Scunny without the financial implosion. Which I suppose is something positive
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: redwine on February 04, 2023, 05:11:13 pm
How bad does it have to get before it gets better?

Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Pside on February 04, 2023, 05:13:43 pm
A bit yet mate, unfortunately
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Canadian Rover on February 04, 2023, 05:14:42 pm
I wonder what the break even point is of self sustainability. Legit question.

Are we deemed to be self sustainable scrapping against relegation to the non league? Are we self sustainable in the non league?

The crowds are dwindling because of performances on the pitch. Are we one of the worst teams in the entire country over the past 2 years? If not the worst.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: swain_drfc on February 04, 2023, 05:15:51 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 04, 2023, 05:16:00 pm
Might get to a point where the car boot will play the players when we’re a few leagues lower.

Seriously though we have to bottom out soon surely.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 04, 2023, 05:18:09 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on February 04, 2023, 05:18:26 pm
Losing to Hartlepool at home, now that is what I call progress-sustainability all the way!.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: firestarter on February 04, 2023, 05:19:17 pm
When does the new 5 year plan start ?? Asking for a fan base
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 04, 2023, 05:20:09 pm
If you go back to the start of last season, our record is poor, especially as a decent amount of games have been in tier 4:

Played 73
Won 21
Drawn 12
Lost 40
For 68
Against 122
GD Minus 54

We have lost 54% of our games and concede on average 1.67 goals each game.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 04, 2023, 05:20:29 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.

Do you go to games? Surely anyone who attends week after week has to question what's happened to this club over the last few years, where's the leadership and ambition.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 04, 2023, 05:21:09 pm
When does the new 5 year plan start ?? Asking for a fan base

Most clubs have 5 year plans that reset every year...
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: donnyallday on February 04, 2023, 05:29:19 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
You are easily pleased, you would still be happy and clapping when were playing Armthorpe and losing.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: ForsolongaRover on February 04, 2023, 05:30:13 pm
…and if past form is anything to go by we will not get a coherent explanation of what went wrong from the Head Coach.

1 goal against equals just one of his “key moments”. What will be done to rectify it will be expressed in generalised coaching jargon.

Although that does seem to satisfy some who rate him as better than his predecessor, despite the stats.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: no eyed deer on February 04, 2023, 05:31:33 pm
I have said it a thousand times. We are heading Scunthorpe’s way with the current regime. It’s just taken a while for the penny to drop for some.

But but but Jim... we are sustainable and that is all that count. Get these owner out of our club now before it is to late.

Donny dog for chairman
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Prez on February 04, 2023, 05:32:13 pm
Im truly grateful for what Terry has done, but im at the stage now where i, hoping for fresh leadership.

I just cant stand watching this decline anymore. The football is appalling, and im really worried that we have not bottomed out yet.

It just gets worse week by week.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 04, 2023, 05:34:36 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
You are easily pleased, you would still be happy and clapping when were playing Armthorpe and losing.

Where on earth do you get the impression that I'm pleased from?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: bobbymax on February 04, 2023, 05:37:44 pm
I'm done. There's no pleasure involved watching anymore. Interminable dross piled on top of garbage, week after week. The team, manager and club have run out of excuses.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: glosterred on February 04, 2023, 05:38:54 pm
All this sack the board guff has got me wondering. You sack the board, I don’t know how you sack the owners or do they sack themselves? You’ve sack the board who runs the club? I haven’t seen or heard of anyone coming in to buy the club so who going to run the club, who’s going puts their hand in their pocket to help day to day finances?


COYR
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: no eyed deer on February 04, 2023, 05:39:14 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
You are easily pleased, you would still be happy and clapping when were playing Armthorpe and losing.

Where on earth do you get the impression that I'm pleased from?

Did you go and witness that today
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: DD on February 04, 2023, 05:41:19 pm
What is Coppingers role in this debacle?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 04, 2023, 05:41:32 pm
…and if past form is anything to go by we will not get a coherent explanation of what went wrong from the Head Coach.

1 goal against equals just one of his “key moments”. What will be done to rectify it will be expressed in generalised coaching jargon.

Although that does seem to satisfy some who rate him as better than his predecessor, despite the stats.

Which stats? His xG numbers are better than McSheffrey and fairly positive overall, which shows hope that the results will follow in turn, like with SOD.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: glosterred on February 04, 2023, 05:41:55 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
You are easily pleased, you would still be happy and clapping when were playing Armthorpe and losing.

Where on earth do you get the impression that I'm pleased from?

Did you go and witness that today

I witness today, not good at all. But, if you sack the board who will run the club?


COYR
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 04, 2023, 05:45:37 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
You are easily pleased, you would still be happy and clapping when were playing Armthorpe and losing.

Where on earth do you get the impression that I'm pleased from?

Did you go and witness that today

Would it have made me any happier?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: colincramb on February 04, 2023, 05:48:41 pm
We are, unfortunately, utterly rubbish.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Donnybax on February 04, 2023, 06:05:05 pm
Closer to the relegation zone than the playoffs
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: tyke1962 on February 04, 2023, 06:12:25 pm
Closer to the relegation zone than the playoffs

Well you aren't are you , 13 points away from dropping in to the relegation places and 5 off a play off spot .
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: no eyed deer on February 04, 2023, 06:13:18 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
You are easily pleased, you would still be happy and clapping when were playing Armthorpe and losing.

Where on earth do you get the impression that I'm pleased from?

Did you go and witness that today

I witness today, not good at all. But, if you sack the board who will run the club?


COYR

It's time they handed over to the fan. They say they don't want any of their investments back.

Let the people with passion run it and if that means are a lower end league 2 club that's OK.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on February 04, 2023, 06:15:20 pm
It’s another step unfortunately to unraveling all the hard work done, to get us out of non league.
Within the next two seasons we will be back where we started. It hurts so much to say that.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: elmsallrover on February 04, 2023, 06:15:40 pm
Thank god for them late goals vs Wimbledon, Suttonn and Stockport
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Daniel_Smith on February 04, 2023, 06:23:15 pm
What doesn't help is the fans turning on each other.

I feel there is good reason to rant about the current goings-on at Rovers.

Maybe the approach of some of the protestors is misguided. But some of the vitriol sent there way by men on this forum who are old enough to know better is astonishing.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Spilsby Red on February 04, 2023, 06:26:55 pm
Blah blah blah. Usual comments. My son was there today and said we played pretty well. Maybe he is a liar !
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: mushRTID on February 04, 2023, 06:28:45 pm
Blah blah blah. Usual comments. My son was there today and said we played pretty well. Maybe he is a liar !

Did he forget his glasses?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: coventryrover on February 04, 2023, 06:28:56 pm
What doesn't help is the fans turning on each other.

I feel there is good reason to rant about the current goings-on at Rovers.

Maybe the approach of some of the protestors is misguided. But some of the vitriol sent there way by men on this forum who are old enough to know better is astonishing.
Why?   They are not proposing and alternative.   Sack the board  then what.   I would understand the opposite view if there was a valid solution proposed.

Plus, there seems to be no recognition  of what TB is doing/ has done for this club
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: EasyforDennis on February 04, 2023, 06:30:29 pm
Blah blah blah. Usual comments. My son was there today and said we played pretty well. Maybe he is a liar !

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Spilsby Red on February 04, 2023, 06:43:25 pm
Nope but I guess some of you lot don’t like it when there is a positive
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Daniel_Smith on February 04, 2023, 06:44:40 pm
What doesn't help is the fans turning on each other.

I feel there is good reason to rant about the current goings-on at Rovers.

Maybe the approach of some of the protestors is misguided. But some of the vitriol sent there way by men on this forum who are old enough to know better is astonishing.
Why?   They are not proposing and alternative.   Sack the board  then what.   I would understand the opposite view if there was a valid solution proposed.

Plus, there seems to be no recognition  of what TB is doing/ has done for this club

I'm not going to disagree with you on the point about "sacking the board", because clearly that isn't even a thing you can do.

I think most fans appreciate what the board has done in the past. They just seem stubborn and unwilling to explore alternative avenues to get Rovers out of this slump. The fear of loss is greater than their need for gain.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on February 04, 2023, 06:50:36 pm
It isn’t about sacking the board, it’s about them waking up to what is going on around them.
It’s about not keeping appointing inexperienced managers and it’s about yes running the club sensibly but at least having a go a little bit.
The whole club stinks of non league in the way it does things.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: monkeytennis on February 04, 2023, 06:56:38 pm
Blah blah blah. Usual comments. My son was there today and said we played pretty well. Maybe he is a liar !

Maybe he’s just trying to make you feel better
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: BigH on February 04, 2023, 08:24:54 pm
What doesn't help is the fans turning on each other.

I feel there is good reason to rant about the current goings-on at Rovers.

Maybe the approach of some of the protestors is misguided. But some of the vitriol sent there way by men on this forum who are old enough to know better is astonishing.
Why?   They are not proposing and alternative.   Sack the board  then what.   I would understand the opposite view if there was a valid solution proposed.

Plus, there seems to be no recognition  of what TB is doing/ has done for this club

I'm not going to disagree with you on the point about "sacking the board", because clearly that isn't even a thing you can do.

I think most fans appreciate what the board has done in the past. They just seem stubborn and unwilling to explore alternative avenues to get Rovers out of this slump. The fear of loss is greater than their need for gain.
I largely agree with this DS.

Terry Bramall, like JR and Dick Watson, will always be a DRFC legend in my eyes because of what he has done for the club and the personal generosity he has shown. Truly special.

And I respect what he has done in trying to steer the club towards a sustainable footing; a legacy of his tenure. Let's not forget that TB is in his 80s and I genuinely believe that he has tried to do the right thing by getting DRFC onto a sustainably solvent footing that gives the club a template to work from.

However, reluctantly, I now find myself thinking that if he truly wants to leave a legacy worthy of the name, TB will admit that it's time to hand over the reins to someone who can re-invigorate the club with new energy, significant new investment and new ideas. It'd be far from easy to achieve - Lord knows that potential multi-millionaire investors in L2 clubs don't grow on trees - but I think we've reached a point where it's increasingly the only serious option.

Am I alone in my thinking?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 04, 2023, 08:28:48 pm
I think people are confusing investment with governance. Sure if Terry put in a few million more quid or someone else new did so, we would likely be in a better place than we are now. The point though is that as it stands now, we don't need to be anywhere near as bad as we are. Truly terrible decisions on managerial appointments and even worse player recruitment is that cause of the catastrophic collapse in our footballing credibility. We had a decent run on choosing largely the right managers and some decent players for several years, but the last 2-3 years have been one long and painful amateur hour.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: bpoolrover on February 04, 2023, 08:43:17 pm
Blah blah blah. Usual comments. My son was there today and said we played pretty well. Maybe he is a liar !
we had a spell for 20 mins or so where yes we were on top and played ok, Hartlepool we’re awful and a half decent team would have won at a canter
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Armthorpe mickler on February 04, 2023, 08:50:18 pm
Your right about managerial appointments.We could have had Fergie back this season but he likes a decent budget and he'll moan if he does'nt get one.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: drfchound on February 04, 2023, 08:50:40 pm
Blah blah blah. Usual comments. My son was there today and said we played pretty well. Maybe he is a liar !
we had a spell for 20 mins or so where yes we were on top and played ok, Hartlepool we’re awful and a half decent team would have won at a canter

Overall, yes Hartlepool are a poor team but the hard truth is that they were much better with the ball than we were.
Their number 39 at the back barely broke sweat but ran the game for them.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: BigH on February 04, 2023, 09:00:09 pm
Is this what we’re reduced to?

Trying to rationalise a home defeat to Hartlepool, a team barely above the trap door of the football league!!
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Donnywolf on February 04, 2023, 09:09:38 pm
Closer to the relegation zone than the playoffs

Well you aren't are you , 13 points away from dropping in to the relegation places and 5 off a play off spot .

Hi Tyke

They may have made the comment based on League position rather than points

However that doesn't work either because if we went up 8 places we would depose Stockport in play offs last position

If we went down 8 we would replace Gillingham in Relegation zone

Neither will happen imo but after today's " display" look out Gillingham unless we get consistency of the good kind
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: drfchound on February 04, 2023, 09:24:38 pm
I think that Gillingham are likely to finish the season ahead of us in the table.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: scawsby steve on February 04, 2023, 09:31:39 pm
I think that Gillingham are likely to finish the season ahead of us in the table.

Yes, mate. They've signed some quality players in this window.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: glosterred on February 04, 2023, 09:38:00 pm
Sack the Sack The Board protesters!

Shut up you turnip

When they do, I will.
You are easily pleased, you would still be happy and clapping when were playing Armthorpe and losing.

Where on earth do you get the impression that I'm pleased from?

Did you go and witness that today

I witness today, not good at all. But, if you sack the board who will run the club?


COYR

It's time they handed over to the fan. They say they don't want any of their investments back.

Let the people with passion run it and if that means are a lower end league 2 club that's OK.

Run it with what? It takes money to run a football club, who’s hoping to finance the day to day running costs.


COYR
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: monkeytennis on February 04, 2023, 09:41:11 pm
Yep their 39 was very handy.

My (one of my) worry is if this decline continues is that we become much less attractive as a team players want to join.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: drfchound on February 04, 2023, 09:43:42 pm
Yep their 39 was very handy.

My (one of my) worry is if this decline continues is that we become much less attractive as a team players want to join.

I have been saying that for a few months now.

Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 04, 2023, 09:48:06 pm
What doesn't help is the fans turning on each other.

I feel there is good reason to rant about the current goings-on at Rovers.

Maybe the approach of some of the protestors is misguided. But some of the vitriol sent there way by men on this forum who are old enough to know better is astonishing.
Why?   They are not proposing and alternative.   Sack the board  then what.   I would understand the opposite view if there was a valid solution proposed.

Plus, there seems to be no recognition  of what TB is doing/ has done for this club


Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: normal rules on February 04, 2023, 10:28:39 pm
Both the chants for sack the board and the half arsed efforts.   Low standard..just like Netto

I sat in the East Stand today and pleased to report the “sack the board” muppets were barely heard. This sentiment is not needed. Ever.
The Pool fans on the other hand I thought were superb. Near the bottom of the table pre match. Got behind their team. Loud and proud. Proper support.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Cramby10 on February 04, 2023, 11:29:44 pm
Ye, I sit just below Copps and Baldwin and we didn’t hear any of that nonsense from our fans. Thank god. Drowned out by the Hartlepool fans.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 04, 2023, 11:53:55 pm
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 05, 2023, 08:53:30 am
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 05, 2023, 09:46:50 am
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 05, 2023, 10:22:25 am
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.

If you frequently visited you would certainly see a decline in everything about the club. Both on and off the field. It’s glaringly obvious. Thats not gobbing off, that’s factual.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: eastender on February 05, 2023, 10:39:17 am
Yep their 39 was very handy.

My (one of my) worry is if this decline continues is that we become much less attractive as a team players want to join.

Looking at their 39 Hartley , he only had to snarl at our players and they would all sh#t the sens
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 05, 2023, 12:13:12 pm
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.

If you frequently visited you would certainly see a decline in everything about the club. Both on and off the field. It’s glaringly obvious. Thats not gobbing off, that’s factual.

I don't need to go to a match to see it either, unless you think the results and league tables don't tell me anything?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 05, 2023, 04:19:52 pm
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.

If you frequently visited you would certainly see a decline in everything about the club. Both on and off the field. It’s glaringly obvious. Thats not gobbing off, that’s factual.

I don't need to go to a match to see it either, unless you think the results and league tables don't tell me anything?

I’m not just talking about what’s on the pitch.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 05, 2023, 04:26:06 pm
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.

If you frequently visited you would certainly see a decline in everything about the club. Both on and off the field. It’s glaringly obvious. Thats not gobbing off, that’s factual.

I don't need to go to a match to see it either, unless you think the results and league tables don't tell me anything?

I’m not just talking about what’s on the pitch.

I'm not talking about anything on the pitch. As I have already said. Have you actually got a point about asking if I've been to the matches or are you going to keep on dancing round in circles?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Upton Rover on February 05, 2023, 06:10:31 pm
Blah blah blah. Usual comments. My son was there today and said we played pretty well. Maybe he is a liar !
Well I must admit we never played well and I maybe a liar,
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Upton Rover on February 05, 2023, 06:13:46 pm
Both the chants for sack the board and the half arsed efforts.   Low standard..just like Netto

I sat in the East Stand today and pleased to report the “sack the board” muppets were barely heard. This sentiment is not needed. Ever.
The Pool fans on the other hand I thought were superb. Near the bottom of the table pre match. Got behind their team. Loud and proud. Proper support.
Because they knew they were going to get 3 points and that they were playing a team that are the worst in L2 at this present time, that’s a fact
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 05, 2023, 06:30:00 pm
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.

If you frequently visited you would certainly see a decline in everything about the club. Both on and off the field. It’s glaringly obvious. Thats not gobbing off, that’s factual.

I don't need to go to a match to see it either, unless you think the results and league tables don't tell me anything?

I’m not just talking about what’s on the pitch.

I'm not talking about anything on the pitch. As I have already said. Have you actually got a point about asking if I've been to the matches or are you going to keep on dancing round in circles?

Glynn if you’re visiting the keepmoat seeing the state of the place. How poor the club shop is. The state of toilets. State of catering etc etc then you’d understand.

Constant cost cutting all over the place.


That’s my point. You’re not seeing it if you’re not going.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 05, 2023, 07:17:20 pm
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.

If you frequently visited you would certainly see a decline in everything about the club. Both on and off the field. It’s glaringly obvious. Thats not gobbing off, that’s factual.

I don't need to go to a match to see it either, unless you think the results and league tables don't tell me anything?

I’m not just talking about what’s on the pitch.

I'm not talking about anything on the pitch. As I have already said. Have you actually got a point about asking if I've been to the matches or are you going to keep on dancing round in circles?

Glynn if you’re visiting the keepmoat seeing the state of the place. How poor the club shop is. The state of toilets. State of catering etc etc then you’d understand.

Constant cost cutting all over the place.


That’s my point. You’re not seeing it if you’re not going.

The club shop has been poor for years, the toilets have been poor for years, the catering has been dreadful for years. The costs of having a matchday have rocketed so of course they ain't going to get any better anytime soon. Why do you think I need to see this with my own eyes?
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on February 05, 2023, 07:32:45 pm
Irrespective Glyn it's worsened noticeably this year there's no getting away from it being a valid point.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: silent majority on February 05, 2023, 07:43:22 pm
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 05, 2023, 07:44:58 pm
Like wise many on here don’t show any gratitude to what John Ryan did for the club. Something I really find hard to read in all honesty!

Many? How many? I see lots of people who take a view of him based on his whole tenure and not just the glory years, but I've not seen anyone not be grateful for what he did at the start of his tenure.

For example, I'm grateful for the what he achieved at the start of his tenure. However, after he lied to the DFP about the VSC and then lied to the Rovers fans about his second attempt to buy the club I don't want him near the club again.

Are you ever actually near the club yourself? Do you go to games?

Some of your opinions on the goings off are mind boggling. I’m not sure what your watching.

I was a season ticket holder for many years until disability and my location meant that I couldn't attend any more, apart from the odd match here and there. I wish I could be there for every game as I used to be but I can't.

Presumably you think that means I'm not entitled to have an opinion any more because those who do go are 'better' fans. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked.

What you've not been watching is that I haven't passed any comment on the players or the matches themselves. Because unlike what I see from a lot of hotheads on here, I don't gob off about things I don't know anything about.

If you frequently visited you would certainly see a decline in everything about the club. Both on and off the field. It’s glaringly obvious. Thats not gobbing off, that’s factual.

I don't need to go to a match to see it either, unless you think the results and league tables don't tell me anything?

I’m not just talking about what’s on the pitch.

I'm not talking about anything on the pitch. As I have already said. Have you actually got a point about asking if I've been to the matches or are you going to keep on dancing round in circles?

Glynn if you’re visiting the keepmoat seeing the state of the place. How poor the club shop is. The state of toilets. State of catering etc etc then you’d understand.

Constant cost cutting all over the place.


That’s my point. You’re not seeing it if you’re not going.

The club shop has been poor for years, the toilets have been poor for years, the catering has been dreadful for years. The costs of having a matchday have rocketed so of course they ain't going to get any better anytime soon. Why do you think I need to see this with my own eyes?

You’re the one going round in circles.

You have a very strong opinion on the goings on to say you don’t go. That’s my point.

Good night
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 05, 2023, 07:46:20 pm
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.

Such an easy get out isn’t it?

If I subcontract work out as part of my business. And a customer isn’t happy with the service, guess who they ring??
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: silent majority on February 05, 2023, 07:47:55 pm
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.

Such an easy get out isn’t it?

If I subcontract work out as part of my business. And a customer isn’t happy with the service, guess who they ring??

Missed my point completely.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: lee.j09 on February 05, 2023, 07:51:47 pm
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.

Such an easy get out isn’t it?

If I subcontract work out as part of my business. And a customer isn’t happy with the service, guess who they ring??

Missed my point completely.

I think they may need to rethink outsourcing.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: i_ateallthepies on February 06, 2023, 08:08:54 am
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.

Such an easy get out isn’t it?

If I subcontract work out as part of my business. And a customer isn’t happy with the service, guess who they ring??

Missed my point completely.

I think they may need to rethink outsourcing.

Or be more careful in setting up outsourcing contracts.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Filo on February 06, 2023, 09:26:12 am
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.

Regarding the shop, run by elite pro sports, someone I know got a Club Doncaster gift voucher, tried to use it in the shop, to be told it couldn’t be used there because they are elite pro sports, so paid for the items with his debit card, the transaction in his bank account came out as Club Doncaster
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Canadian Rover on February 06, 2023, 12:03:44 pm
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.

SM why do they keep sending out surveys about the catering? Surely the CEO knows the problems and I would hope plans are in place to increase the quality and generate better revenues for DRFC under it's own control 100%

(As an exile the catering obviously doesn't effect me personally other than when I am over on UK trips).
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: silent majority on February 06, 2023, 12:14:42 pm
The catering is outsourced, and their contract is up in the summer so don’t expect that part to get any better. The club shop is also run by a 3rd party.
Not the answers people are looking for but it’s hardly the club cutting costs and causing the problem either.

SM why do they keep sending out surveys about the catering? Surely the CEO knows the problems and I would hope plans are in place to increase the quality and generate better revenues for DRFC under it's own control 100%

(As an exile the catering obviously doesn't effect me personally other than when I am over on UK trips).

Of course they know the problems, the survey isn't about that. The club are making plans for the summer so they want to fashion the next contract, whoever and however that looks, around what the fans are actually looking for and what they see as most important.
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Bessie Red on February 06, 2023, 12:26:46 pm
Both the chants for sack the board and the half arsed efforts.   Low standard..just like Netto

I sat in the East Stand today and pleased to report the “sack the board” muppets were barely heard. This sentiment is not needed. Ever.
The Pool fans on the other hand I thought were superb. Near the bottom of the table pre match. Got behind their team. Loud and proud. Proper support.
Because they knew they were going to get 3 points and that they were playing a team that are the worst in L2 at this present time, that’s a fact
It's not a fact though. Look at the form table and we are not the worst at this moment in time, grant you we are heading that way though!