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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on February 15, 2023, 10:43:20 am
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The return fixture of our first home game of the season and first victory of the season when Bobby Faulkner was introduced to the forward line on 88 minutes and caused havoc in the Sutton penalty area and we scored two late goals to pinch the points.
Last night they won v Swindon after being behind to a Charlie Austin goal but scored on 85 and 88 minutes so know the feeling of the great escape. A Swindon supporter described the game as between two terrible inept teams but although Sutton only had 45% of the possession they had 22 shots at goal, probably as many as we have in three games, so a danger if we play the game in our own half. Their position in the league table is mostly shored up by their home form where most of their points have been collected, and from what I can remember about that game at the start of the season they looked a big strong outfit, strong in midfield and organised, So a hard place for us to go and try and keep our own momentum going and get that elusive fourth win on the trot not a thing we do very often but really need to to get anywhere this season and turn it around.
I thought we were ok last night, not great and were disrupted by Barrows physical approach at times and their willingness to use the tactical foul, but on the plus side we looked fairly solid against a side I thought looked better going forward direct and we coped quite well, and our wide play has improved immeasurably since Hurst and Molineux have realised they can take defenders on at pace, more of this please, and the full backs give them good cover and support.
Olowu I always thought with Faulkner to be our best defenders with potential, last night Olowu was the catalyst for a much improved defensive display and added pace at the back and even better anticipation of danger. but if Anderson is fit, or Schofield gets some gonads and trusts Faulkner I would prefer Tommy to be let loose further forward and one of those two play in defence, the combination of Faulkner and Olowu my preference if Faulkner is recalled after what looks like a very successful months loan would be the combination with Anderson if we have no agreement to have to play Nelson who looks easy on the eye but positionally gets pulled about and has distribution no better than Faulkner going for the Olay ball that gets cut out mostly and we got away with last night. My thoughts others can disagree.
Close in midfield has certainly upped his game, and needed to, our mid field before Christmas non existent in most games and isolated our front players who had to play too deep in a crowded area to try and get in the game. Now we are moving the ball forward quicker and bringing more players into the game earlier and in more room to work in, and has opened the game up to bring Molineux and Hurst into the game who both look a threat when running at defenders with the ball.
So a difficult and important game, the importance despite decent results in the last three games and because of them building every week, we need another good result to keep plugging away every game to the end of the season. Things look a little better on the field of play which is the main place, but it makes me wonder are some playing to get away? In some cases I hope very much not.
Again, What do you think? can we get among it and finish the season on a high? have we turned a corner? Are you happy the players are now at more ease with our system of play? can we be the team that bursts through from behind at the death of the season?
Loads of questions to discuss about this game, Please have your say.
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I for one disagree
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I disagree massively with u saying Nelson is no better than Faulkner. Nelson been quality since coming in and looks very composed on the ball. Miles ahead of Faulkner at this moment in time and think he will go on and have a very good career at a much higher level than this.
Thought we looked a bit tired in the 2nd half yesterday so hopefully the players can recover in time for Saturday and go again against another tough physical side. I’d go with the same team if all fit enough.
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A few games ago I was at Rovcom 5 the lowest measure of being up for the game
I sang at the same game "I'm Rovers till I fall asleep"
What a turn Round , a Team that now looks like it has a purpose , that's starting to believe and indeed make fans believe
Swindon performance looked like the boys were on a long unbeaten and unchanged run , though there had been changes. Again last night some changes but whilst not like Swindon performsnce we won and racked up a 3rd clean sheet
Olowu is looking immense Moly is firing and we are playing recognisable football
The long way round to say I'm buzzing for Saturday and Sutton and I'm at Rovcom 2 ALREADY .
It's good to be back :lol: :lol:
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Only 3 of Suttons 22 shots were on target, they are very similar to us on shots on target over the past 3 games, not only do shots on target get you goals, them goals don’t guarantee to get you points, however clean sheets do guarantee you points and we have had 3 in a row, Sutton haven’t
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Ravenrover, we will need them both Anderson is out now, and will always need his fitness managing from now on and over a long period has Struggled to put a long run of games together.
Rowe is in much the same state, and can miss games between now and the end of the season, and is it his best position to contribute to the team? and the other question is he better there than a recognised central defender? We are just a couple of injuries away from being short in a vital position, and it wants covering, if Anderson is fit I would play him for his experience, Olowu the big question is will he move on next season, Nelson gives us balance and as you have noticed is easy on the eye with the ball, very much in the u23s vein of play and needs to learn the other side of the game quickly because he is going to come up against it probably this weekend and the one after. My back three would be Olowu Anderson Nelson, and move Olowu central and Faulkner right if Anderson is not fit.
The big question really is who of them will be here next season, Leicester will want Nelson to ideally play higher, Faulkner has a number of bigger clubs monitoring his progress and could step in for our usual cheap sale, and now Olowu is fit after being out the majority of his contract he may look to kick on and will have his suiters if he plays regularly like he did last night to the end of the season, and its to be hoped for Anderson's sake he gets back to being fitter and can continue his career.
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Will Anderson Olowu accept their contract offers will we extend Faulkner contract incase we get an offer or keep him longer. We could lose 4 CHs in the summer aswell as RSW. As for the Sutton game I hope Anderson is fit to return. If not fit we can’t extend Faulkners loan as we will need him.
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Having just read an article in the free press from James Maxwell he has been very honest in this Quote from DFP
“It’s not been easy. Results have been indifferent at times. But I don’t want to talk about turning corners or anything like that. We’ve said it at different parts of the season and it’s not come to fruition. It’s a boring cliche but it’s just a game at a time now and building on each one. We’re nowhere near where we want to be in terms of our actual football but I think now we’re finding a bit more of a balance while we’re in that transition in terms of showing a bit more grit and the dirty side of the game to allow football to take over.
As Copps said at MTO meeting similar the team is learning and working on improvements.
The Chairman got carried away at the beginning of the season with no direct evidence to back up his statement.
We are a team in progress so let’s hope we can get more wins and clean sheets continuing against Sutton.
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Sutton have won 5 of their last 6 home games, drawing the other. Top of the Home Form table. Considering how Barrow made us look "ordinary" I think we're in for a tough game. A draw would be a good result for us.
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With only 4 draws in the season so far and the last being on Oct15th then a draw would be a novelty. We need to score 2 goals as we did at Swindon then we could get another win butt it’s going to be difficult.
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Will Anderson Olowu accept their contract offers will we extend Faulkner contract incase we get an offer or keep him longer. We could lose 4 CHs in the summer aswell as RSW. As for the Sutton game I hope Anderson is fit to return. If not fit we can’t extend Faulkners loan as we will need him.
I’m not sure I’d offer Anderson one. Or if I were to offer him one it would reflect that he can’t play a full season. Copps etc will know what he earns and hopefully have an idea if we can get better.
Olowu is worth a improved offer reflecting that he is now best centre half at the club.
Faulkner would be good to extend too. I’d like to see him starting next season if we don’t go up. If he has a strong spell at Spenny I think he’s earnt a proper chance
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Anderson missed last night with a foot injury and will miss Sutton and Bradford, should be back for the Stockport game. Wasn’t risked yesterday as a precaution and won’t be risked in the next 2 (schofield giving him 10-14 days to get it right)
Playing Rowe as one of the back 3 is because he brings the ball out of defence well gives us another attacking option going forward as he overlaps the wing back and overloads the midfield. Yesterday he ran forward early and got a shot off in the first few mins from the edge of the area. When we’ve got the ball, he always pushes forward and gives an extra option (most of the time he is a free man because the strikers not gonna track him all the way back). Knoyle did it in the few games he played there aswell and got a couple of goal contributions from that position.
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Ravenrover, we will need them both Anderson is out now, and will always need his fitness managing from now on and over a long period has Struggled to put a long run of games together.
Rowe is in much the same state, and can miss games between now and the end of the season, and is it his best position to contribute to the team? and the other question is he better there than a recognised central defender? We are just a couple of injuries away from being short in a vital position, and it wants covering, if Anderson is fit I would play him for his experience, Olowu the big question is will he move on next season, Nelson gives us balance and as you have noticed is easy on the eye with the ball, very much in the u23s vein of play and needs to learn the other side of the game quickly because he is going to come up against it probably this weekend and the one after. My back three would be Olowu Anderson Nelson, and move Olowu central and Faulkner right if Anderson is not fit.
The big question really is who of them will be here next season, Leicester will want Nelson to ideally play higher, Faulkner has a number of bigger clubs monitoring his progress and could step in for our usual cheap sale, and now Olowu is fit after being out the majority of his contract he may look to kick on and will have his suiters if he plays regularly like he did last night to the end of the season, and its to be hoped for Anderson's sake he gets back to being fitter and can continue his career.
The only thing I disagree on is in your statement comparing Nelson and Faulkener. Nelson is , in my opinion, the much better player.
That is all I disagree on.
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With only 4 draws in the season so far and the last being on Oct15th then a draw would be a novelty. We need to score 2 goals as we did at Swindon then we could get another win butt it’s going to be difficult.
Looks like we're due a draw then.
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DS seems a decent coach and if he can improve Faulkners on the ball ability over the summer then he will be worth a starting place in this league. Defensively he's there, we all know that.
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The three center backs were all dire playing out from the back last night. If that's all he's got to beat he'll not have a problem.
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You must have been watching a different game to me
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Raven, I agree with Rugby on Nelson's distribution especially in the first half last night especially in the first half hour, he plays a nice ball square or backwards but his passing forward was terrible and set them through twice when intercepted if they had capitalised better, and like the Hartlepool game in the first 30 minutes the right winger got past him with ease.
In fact I would like to see him play in the hurly burly of the games at Spennymoor as like a lot of u23s at that level and intensity its sink or swim, it's a much faster more
physical game than division 2 and a lot are found wanting coming through the academy system, but soon learn.
What he does do he gives us balance on the left hand side and has a much improved Maxwell alongside him.
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Sutton have won 5 of their last 6 home games, drawing the other. Top of the Home Form table. Considering how Barrow made us look "ordinary" I think we're in for a tough game. A draw would be a good result for us.
When we played them at the Ecomoat I was surprised how athletic and good with the ball to say they were a team of strapping lads. They can play as well as mixing it up.
No reason to believe they won't be anything but a handful on Saturday.
We will have to be on our A game to keep possession for long enough periods. The first 40 mins v Barrow is what we hope for.
The majority of the second half we sat in with none of the centre half's willing to bring the ball out to avoid being caught on the counter. What we need to do better is countering the bombardment with smarter play, finding better out balls and being better with hold up play. Someone, who can buy time, buy a foul etc further up the pitch. Without that, it's more hope the judgement when balls are coming back at you as quick as first cleared. Hurst, Molyneux and Miller need to be a bit smarter in that department than on Tuesdays second half.
Once we drop, whilst we may be keeping defensive shape, it's more difficult to win second balls so the passing out of defence has to be on the money. We did it at Swindon to good effect, so we'll need that if we are to stand any chance of a result at Sutton.
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I wouldn’t say rovers have turned a corner, more like beginning to.
Still need to click between midfield and striker(s) .
Shades of it against barrow. More needed. Much more.
Gutted not to be there as I’m at a 50th in Harrogate. But come three pm, I’ll be checking the phone. A lot.
My lad will be there though with two fellow Londonites cheering the lads on.
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Sutton will be a tough test. However, confidence and a winning momentum counts for a lot.. I'm predicting an away win.
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New ground for me
I would take a draw but secretly hoping we can return up the A1 with all 3
Any news on Biggins - the starting 11 look good but it’s the bench I’m starting to have concerns about
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They will target Rowe as a weak link aerially. We need to make sure we don’t drop too deep defensively. I think we can go there and win but it will be a tough game.
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Raven, I agree with Rugby on Nelson's distribution especially in the first half last night especially in the first half hour, he plays a nice ball square or backwards but his passing forward was terrible and set them through twice when intercepted if they had capitalised better, and like the Hartlepool game in the first 30 minutes the right winger got past him with ease.
In fact I would like to see him play in the hurly burly of the games at Spennymoor as like a lot of u23s at that level and intensity its sink or swim, it's a much faster more
physical game than division 2 and a lot are found wanting coming through the academy system, but soon learn.
What he does do he gives us balance on the left hand side and has a much improved Maxwell alongside him.
Selby I would have expected nothing less from you
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You know in Alan Partridge where he goes to a fan’s house and there are pictures of him all over the wall in one of the rooms? I imagine selby has a similar room devoted to Faulkner ;) :lol:
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If you can remember, they had a pacey winger who caused us problems - Neufville I think. He appears to be injured.
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They are on a good run of league form. Only lost 2 in 10 and they were tough games away at Salford and Orient.
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First visit for me. Best be a decent performance as I’m on nights until 05:00 on Saturday morning then on the coach for this one.
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First visit for me. Best be a decent performance as I’m on nights until 05:00 on Saturday morning then on the coach for this one.
At least you can have a sleep on the way there, and back.
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Not if Paul is singing Baby Shark all the way there , pausing only to call the Bingo :lol: :lol: :lol:
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I have suffered that in the past Wolfie so I started taking a set of ear defenders with me.
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Pleased I haven't let you down Raven, NickDRFC I kiss his picture every day but have it on good authority you are known to be into into self gratification, we all have a weakness.
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First visit for me. Best be a decent performance as I’m on nights until 05:00 on Saturday morning then on the coach for this one.
At least you can have a sleep on the way there, and back.
Let’s be honest Hound, until the last 3 games, he could have napped through the match and not missed owt!
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Looking forward to this one tomorrow.
My 1st visit to Gander Green Lane as I didn’t go in our conference years.
Only Salford and Crawley after this one to do in this league & both coming up next month.
Then that leaves Forest Green Rovers missed that one in the conference, West Ham ( new stadium) ManCity ( new stadium ) been to both the old ones.
Chelsea is the only other ground of the current 92 i haven’t been to a match.
Not going to be pretty I fear tomorrow. They are a big physical team. We are going to need to be a bit cute. They will win a lot of 1st balls so i think we need to concentrate on winning the 2nd balls.
Match them for work rate and I think we can come out on top.
We have better footballers and hopefully if we compete then the football will get us the points.
A draw though would be a decent result. They don’t lose many home games.
Missed one. Not been to Brentford’s new ground. ( been to old one )
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When Hurst goes on one of his mazy runs, if he would just look up for god's sake and pass or shoot before he looses it gggrrr!!!
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When Hurst goes on one of his mazy runs, if he would just look up for god's sake and pass or shoot before he looses it gggrrr!!!
That will come, he’s still young and very raw but the talent is there, if DS is half the coach Copps thinks he is then I’m sure he will only get better
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My first visit with my son. For my birthday. Looking forward to it. Agree with what you said Campsall
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When Hurst goes on one of his mazy runs, if he would just look up for god's sake and pass or shoot before he looses it gggrrr!!!
That will come, he’s still young and very raw but the talent is there, if DS is half the coach Copps thinks he is then I’m sure he will only get better
Hursts a real talent, very quick feet especially in tight spaces. Not the finished article by any means but improving all the time. Think he will command a good transfer fee in the future along with Maxwell and Olowu (if we can tie him down). We've got the nucleus of a good squad at present with players at good ages and they're seems to be a good team spirit so it would be good if we can keep the majority of it together next season.
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Olowu, Maxwell and Brown if we had a chance of getting them all on deals, would be an excellent foundation for the defence of the future. If Tom and Ro-Shaun move on in the summer, bringing in an experienced head into the back line should be a priority. Nelson we’ve got no chance signing.
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Maxwell is ours.
Assume you mean Lakin
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This game will be a good measurement of how much we have improved.
Will be a tough game. Sutton are in decent form and a very good home side. Probably the toughest game of tge current run we've had.
Need to get at them early on lime we did swindon
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Maxwell is ours.
Assume you mean Lakin
No, I meant Maxwell. At end of this season he only has a year left. If we are building a defence longer-term let’s start having younger defenders on longer deals.
Lakin is a midfielder, not a defender.
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Yes, I thought the sane with the Swindon game. I didn't expect much from it but we came through with flying colours.
I'm no more confident about this game either and really, every game is a test from now on.
It's not a must win so I hope the lads approach it with some freedom, without pressure and let Sutton worry about us.
Any point is a welcome bonus and will set us up nicely for next week.
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Maxwell is ours.
Assume you mean Lakin
No, I meant Maxwell. At end of this season he only has a year left. If we are building a defence longer-term let’s start having younger defenders on longer deals.
Lakin is a midfielder, not a defender.
Maxwell's still a bit raw but I love his attitude and commitment for a young lad, absolutely fearless in a tackle and bombs down the wing. Him and Hurst are starting to develop a good understanding. Must be daunting for a lad at his age moving away from home also.
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Maxwell is ours.
Assume you mean Lakin
No, I meant Maxwell. At end of this season he only has a year left. If we are building a defence longer-term let’s start having younger defenders on longer deals.
Lakin is a midfielder, not a defender.
Maxwell's still a bit raw but I love his attitude and commitment for a young lad, absolutely fearless in a tackle and bombs down the wing. Him and Hurst are starting to develop a good understanding. Must be daunting for a lad at his age moving away from home also.
He's starting to remind me a bit of James Husband. As we know Husband was very competitive, sometimes slightly rash, but developed into a very strong defender and direct with his attacking raids too contributing a few goals.
We'll need Maxwell, and Brown of course, to be on top of their game today. How far they are able to advance will probably have a big say in the game.
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As has been pointed out there is a lot on this game for the club in general. It is not very often we have the chance to make it four wins on the trot and four clean sheets.
Confidence in the team and management I feel will take a massive stride forward if we can make headway over the next few fixtures and get some decent results that can get us in the mix for the playoffs, and we really need to get people behind the club again and with hope of progressing, and a sign that we have bottomed out and from here can start the job of raising the profile of tghe club and the team itself.
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We need to be more effective in the last third , no shots or real attempts in-spite of having long periods of good possession .
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Clean sheet though!
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Bossed it for the 1st 20 mins, however as said nowt up front…..let’s hope DS can get em firing in the 2nd half.
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Clean sheet though!
really? 1-0 now 2-0
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Just one of those games that didn't go our way. Nothing to get angry about. Sounds like we did enough to get something from the game but weren't ruthless enough in front of goal plus appear to be unlucky with a couple of penalty shouts.
Typical that our best chance isn't taken and they go down the other end and score.
Last week a win, this week a loss. Fine lines. We move on.
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Just one of those games that didn't go our way. Nothing to get angry about. Sounds like we did enough to get something from the game but weren't ruthless enough in front of goal plus appear to be unlucky with a couple of penalty shouts.
Typical that our best chance isn't taken and they go down the other end and score.
Last week a win, this week a loss. Fine lines. We move on.
agreed. Missed chances but that is all
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Im gonna get slated for this but as i said a a few week ago, Miller needs dropping. IMO hes struggling at the mo.
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Clean sheet though!
really? 1-0 now 2-0
You really are a clown
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Clean sheet though!
really? 1-0 now 2-0
You really are a clown
:thumbsup:
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Im gonna get slated for this but as i said a a few week ago, Miller needs dropping. IMO hes struggling at the mo.
That's a decision for DS who'll know whether he's suffering or he can play through it.
He'll come good sooner or later. Others need to contribute too.
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First 30 mins or so we’re good after that they just pressed us when we continued to pass out from the back, we gave the ball away cheaply time and time again, I think Miller needs a game or 2 out now he should have attacked the simple tap in but instead waited for the ball to come to him, he is clearly lacking confidence at the minute
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Solid first half there, although they tested Mitchell more. Second half really poor, bossed us really. Lavery's miss was bad but we didn't do much else so can't put it all on that.
Difference was putting the ball away and we never looked like doing it
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Sutton are one of those clubs like Fleetwood and Morecambe that are like shit you can’t scrape from bottom of your shoe. It’s both a disgrace they did and entirely predictable they have beaten us.
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The lack of an out and out goal scorer is becoming increasingly evident and costing us.
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Sutton were a poor side but took their chances. Would like to see us get a solid cb for next season as Rowe wasted in that position. Some signs of good football though but why do we persist in playing from the back.
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I’d love to see to Rowe play as a centre forward. I have no doubt he would find the back of the net.
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Sutton are one of those clubs like Fleetwood and Morecambe that are like shit you can’t scrape from bottom of your shoe. It’s both a disgrace they did and entirely predictable they have beaten us.
Different ways to win a football game though isn't there. Bagged from a set piece and then hit us on the break.
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Sutton are one of those clubs like Fleetwood and Morecambe that are like shit you can’t scrape from bottom of your shoe. It’s both a disgrace they did and entirely predictable they have beaten us.
They have the 2nd best home record in the league so I’m not sure they’re that shit. I think for periods today we made them look shit
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Sutton are one of those clubs like Fleetwood and Morecambe that are like shit you can’t scrape from bottom of your shoe. It’s both a disgrace they did and entirely predictable they have beaten us.
They have the 2nd best home record in the league so I’m not sure they’re that shit. I think for periods today we made them look shit
No, you’ve misunderstood. I used “club” as this is about their size, not their “team” and whatever form they are in. There was a separate thread this week about how crowds are the main determinant of success. Small clubs like Sutton, Fleetwood and Morecambe should not usually be beaten much bigger clubs like us, but our record against all of them is poor.
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But I think everyone knows football isn’t like that don’t they
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Sutton are one of those clubs like Fleetwood and Morecambe that are like shit you can’t scrape from bottom of your shoe. It’s both a disgrace they did and entirely predictable they have beaten us.
They have the 2nd best home record in the league so I’m not sure they’re that shit. I think for periods today we made them look shit
No, you’ve misunderstood. I used “club” as this is about their size, not their “team” and whatever form they are in. There was a separate thread this week about how crowds are the main determinant of success. Small clubs like Sutton, Fleetwood and Morecambe should not usually be beaten much bigger clubs like us, but our record against all of them is poor.
You have to be careful arguing along this track. Clubs like Wednesday and Leeds constantly remind you of the “big club” tag and look down on clubs like ours. On this measure we might just scrape into League 1, but the next step is like the US leagues and what some want for a Super-leagues etc., with no promotion on footballing merit, the Rugby Union model in the UK.
Do you really want that?
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I think you’ve overshot there. We are a manifestly smaller club than Leeds (who lost today, which brightened an otherwise dull day) and Wendies. We shouldn’t be beating them and we rarely do, but when we do it is glorious. Our record against some of the attendance small fry I mentioned isn’t good and this is an irritant. Nobody is saying we should have leagues only based on resources.
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Rowe should be further up the pitch, it's f**king ridiculous that he is playing the position he is. I know Schofield doesn't like Griffiths but surely he is an option to have on bench? Not like we have a single striker in the first team currently scoring or any other options on bench looking like scoring.
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Sutton were a poor side but took their chances. Would like to see us get a solid cb for next season as Rowe wasted in that position. Some signs of good football though but why do we persist in playing from the back.
The difference between the teams one team played to their strengths and the other doesn’t know theirs !!
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Rowe should be further up the pitch, it's f**king ridiculous that he is playing the position he is. I know Schofield doesn't like Griffiths but surely he is an option to have on bench? Not like we have a single striker in the first team currently scoring or any other options on bench looking like scoring.
What evidence is there that Griffiths will add anything?
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Rowe should be further up the pitch, it's f**king ridiculous that he is playing the position he is. I know Schofield doesn't like Griffiths but surely he is an option to have on bench? Not like we have a single striker in the first team currently scoring or any other options on bench looking like scoring.
What evidence is there that Griffiths will add anything?
Worth an option off the bench for a few games see what he can do under DS, what's Seaman going to offer off the bench when we are chasing a goal or Barlow when he comes on? He's already shown more than Barlow in the last 2 years when he has played by scoring 2 goals yet Barlow gets in squad when he offers absolutely nothing.
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Sutton were a poor side but took their chances. Would like to see us get a solid cb for next season as Rowe wasted in that position. Some signs of good football though but why do we persist in playing from the back.
The difference between the teams one team played to their strengths and the other doesn’t know theirs !!
I agree you are a clown
EfD further evidence if you need it - exhibit one m’lud
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Was one of the most undeserved wins I’ve seen at our place against this lot. Not quite as one sided but this result evens things out really.
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Just back and can’t believe we lost that.
Only one team in it first half unfortunately a few had an off day
Can see why they have a good home record just pumping the ball up in the air.
Btw the most useless ball boys ever
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Miss 3 good chances, 2 of them with only a defender on the line in the way, and then slip and fall over when you are defending a corner, its not going to go well.
What was it with all the slipping and falling over today? Did Rowe and Molyneux not take any proper boots with them and although they were the worst they weren't the only ones. And it was that which cost us the game. Can't have been the pitch as I dont remember a Sutton player falling over once.
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We were the better team today.
Totally dominated the 1st half without creating clear cut chances.
2nd half we had a glorious chance to take the lead but George Miller hesitated for a second. Earlier in the season he would have scored.
His confidence in front of goal is shot but it will take just one goal to get it back I am sure. He is working hard and his overall play was good today.
If he wasn’t working hard I would say give him a rest but it just needs one to go in any way possible for his fortune to change.
At 1-0 down Lavery on as a sub for Molyneuex who was ineffective today then missed another sitter. Hit it into the ground and ball just bounced over the cross bar.
We have to get more shots off & be more clinical when we get great chances as those two were today. Hurst and Molyneux need to get the ball into the box quicker. Seem to want to beat their man twice sometimes or not get the pass off quicker.
Overall we played some really good football. Moved the ball much quicker, just need an end product to the approach play.
The difference was Sutton took their best 2 chances and we didn’t.
Very disappointed as 3 valuable points lost and it was a very very long journey home.
Makes it even more important we beat Bradford City next Saturday.
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Maybe the problem is that our forwards just aren't really good enough?
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Watching that today, thought we were really good on the ball first half, very poor second. We are badly lacking in the final third, personnel wise, & decision making. Not good enough to make the play offs in my opinion. We were beaten today by little more than a poor team that were just organised, big, & physical, sad point is that's all it takes to beat us nowadays.
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Amazed at how big some of their players were. That lad they brought on midway through second half was colossal.
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Sutton were a poor side but took their chances. Would like to see us get a solid cb for next season as Rowe wasted in that position. Some signs of good football though but why do we persist in playing from the back.
They didn’t really press us that hard when we were playing out, mainly because their two lads up front were huge units that had no mobility. What they did though was compress hard when we got into their half and given let’s say our dynamism in the final third is a work in progress, we had a relatively small number of chances.
Their defenders were absolutely massive. Although one of them was almost a few inches shorter when the other brickshithouse at the back almost took his head off with a flying boot. Probably would have knocked him clean unconscious if he connected.
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One defeat in four games. We didn’t do enough with the ball when on top, chased the game as we had to when going a goal down, then got caught with a sucker punch.
A few teams been there and got nothing. Very disappointing not to at least get a point. We could do with winning the next three.
On Rowe we aren’t good enough, to afford playing him back there really. I understand the reasoning adding quality at bringing the ball out. I think we would be better served with him in midfield and Long slotting in at centre back.
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Sutton are one of those clubs like Fleetwood and Morecambe that are like shit you can’t scrape from bottom of your shoe. It’s both a disgrace they did and entirely predictable they have beaten us.
They have the 2nd best home record in the league so I’m not sure they’re that shit. I think for periods today we made them look shit
They are shit, they probably have the 2nd best home record in the league because the league is also shit.
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They played to their strengths. Must be boring to watch all the time but that’s what teams like Sutton do. As previous people have said, they have a great home record. That’s the reason why.
There was plenty of effort and play from us, just wasn’t to be. Miller needs resting. Offers nothing. Give Lavery and bring on T Miller in next week. See if that might work
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Matt Gray and their number 4 must be up for the greatest sh*thousery award surely
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Sutton were a poor side but took their chances. Would like to see us get a solid cb for next season as Rowe wasted in that position. Some signs of good football though but why do we persist in playing from the back.
The difference between the teams one team played to their strengths and the other doesn’t know theirs !!
I agree you are a clown
EfD further evidence if you need it - exhibit one m’lud
What are you babbling on about now?
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You said it was ridiculous to suggest that some posters only appear when we lose