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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on February 15, 2023, 11:03:40 am
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Liam at last got over his illness and played well, getting 70 odd minutes under his belt in a 2-0 win in their local county cup competition.
Faulkner had another good game at the heart of the defence and played the full game.
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I would have liked Faulkner taking injured Tom Anderson’s place last night, couldn’t we call him back for that reason?
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I would have liked Faulkner taking injured Tom Anderson’s place last night, couldn’t we call him back for that reason?
Not in the first 28 days of a loan.
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I would have liked Faulkner taking injured Tom Anderson’s place last night, couldn’t we call him back for that reason?
Instead of which other CB from last night?
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Raven, we could have and probably should have been two down early doors, that's how it goes when a team wins, what they get away with is brushed over, to answer the question Rowe he is much more productive to the team further up the field, and has been taken to pieces when we have had games when we have been under pressure in past games playing in the back line.
He is at best a make shift central defender, might have a decent game but just as likely to have a bad game.
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Raven, we could have and probably should have been two down early doors, that's how it goes when a team wins, what they get away with is brushed over, to answer the question Rowe he is much more productive to the team further up the field, and has been taken to pieces when we have had games when we have been under pressure in past games playing in the back line.
He is at best a make shift central defender, might have a decent game but just as likely to have a bad game.
Two down early doors? I can't remember Barrow being in the game at all in the first half.
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Raven, we could have and probably should have been two down early doors, that's how it goes when a team wins, what they get away with is brushed over, to answer the question Rowe he is much more productive to the team further up the field, and has been taken to pieces when we have had games when we have been under pressure in past games playing in the back line.
He is at best a make shift central defender, might have a decent game but just as likely to have a bad game.
Two down early doors? I can't remember Barrow being in the game at all in the first half.
It was 33 minutes before Mitchell touched the ball with his hands.
Up to that point he only had to deal with a couple of back passes and take a goal kick.
Are you thinking of the two chances that Hartlepool might have taken Brian.
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Sorry Selby you're slipping back into you Liam mode with Faulkener.
The whole back 5 had a very good game overall against Barrow, Rowe with his experience was the pefect replacement for Anderson to keep an eye on Nelson and Olowu and keep them under control
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Going off the Faulkner theme for a minute, Olowu was excellent throughout the game.
Rowe showed his experience and offered help to Olowu and Nelson with his constant organising.
I watched Nelson closely in the first half and thought he moved around the pitch like a fine tuned athlete and slotted in well.
However, Olowu and Nelson did give the ball away with poor passing sometimes when not really under severe pressure and it hasn’t really been mentioned much.
If RSW had done the same thing, had he played, then his usual detractors would have been banging on about it even now, three days after the game.
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I'll bite. That's what you want.
RSW has been complete and utter shite since he signed for us. Plays too deep, can't compete in the air, passing is woeful and he's full of mistakes and a major part of why our team was relegated. That good enough? I hope he's released at the end of his contract; simply a very poor centre half.
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I'll bite. That's what you want.
RSW has been complete and utter shite since he signed for us. Plays too deep, can't compete in the air, passing is woeful and he's full of mistakes and a major part of why our team was relegated. That good enough? I hope he's released at the end of his contract; simply a very poor centre half.
He tries hard and he's a good lad though.
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The ball was put across our goal from wide from wide positions a couple of times in the first half twice when nelson tried to play the ball forward and found the central midfielder of Barrow who played it wide they put dangerous balls into the box with nobody getting on the end of them in front of goal.
If that's right about Mitchel we are lucky his first two touches with his hands were not picking the ball up out of the onion bag if the ball into the box had run kindly for Barrow.
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I'll bite. That's what you want.
RSW has been complete and utter shite since he signed for us. Plays too deep, can't compete in the air, passing is woeful and he's full of mistakes and a major part of why our team was relegated. That good enough? I hope he's released at the end of his contract; simply a very poor centre half.
CR, I wasn’t looking for a bite at all.
I was just stating what I thought would have happened had Williams made those poor passes.
Irrespective of how people perceive his ability, other players appear to not get the abuse.
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I'll bite. That's what you want.
RSW has been complete and utter shite since he signed for us. Plays too deep, can't compete in the air, passing is woeful and he's full of mistakes and a major part of why our team was relegated. That good enough? I hope he's released at the end of his contract; simply a very poor centre half.
CR, I wasn’t looking for a bite at all.
I was just stating what I thought would have happened had Williams made those poor passes.
Irrespective of how people perceive his ability, other players appear to not get the abuse.
I guess you could argue that RSW has had more game time to prove he is good enough where as nelson has not so can’t jump on him yet for a bad pass ect
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I'll bite. That's what you want.
RSW has been complete and utter shite since he signed for us. Plays too deep, can't compete in the air, passing is woeful and he's full of mistakes and a major part of why our team was relegated. That good enough? I hope he's released at the end of his contract; simply a very poor centre half.
CR, I wasn’t looking for a bite at all.
I was just stating what I thought would have happened had Williams made those poor passes.
Irrespective of how people perceive his ability, other players appear to not get the abuse.
I guess you could argue that RSW has had more game time to prove he is good enough where as nelson has not so can’t jump on him yet for a bad pass ect
True enough, but as time goes by I don’t think he will get the same level of derision.
A bit like our goalie, once people make up their mind that they don’t like a player they rarely change their mind.
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I'll bite. That's what you want.
RSW has been complete and utter shite since he signed for us. Plays too deep, can't compete in the air, passing is woeful and he's full of mistakes and a major part of why our team was relegated. That good enough? I hope he's released at the end of his contract; simply a very poor centre half.
He tries hard and he's a good lad though.
I mean I could bring that to the table
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The ball was put across our goal from wide from wide positions a couple of times in the first half twice when nelson tried to play the ball forward and found the central midfielder of Barrow who played it wide they put dangerous balls into the box with nobody getting on the end of them in front of goal.
If that's right about Mitchel we are lucky his first two touches with his hands were not picking the ball up out of the onion bag if the ball into the box had run kindly for Barrow.
If, if, if. Good God, Brian, you've been watching football long enough to know that there are millions of ifs in football games all over the country every weekend; especially in League 2 which can be like a lottery at times.
I just don't think you're giving our defence any credit for the 3 clean sheets they've just kept.
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I'll bite. That's what you want.
RSW has been complete and utter shite since he signed for us. Plays too deep, can't compete in the air, passing is woeful and he's full of mistakes and a major part of why our team was relegated. That good enough? I hope he's released at the end of his contract; simply a very poor centre half.
I do agree with what ur saying and RSW is used as a scapegoat by many, but u can forgive the odd mistake, especially when ur a young lad. Rowe made a bad pass early on against Tranmere and it resulted in their player shooting from the edge of the area and Mitchell tipped it around the post, I didn’t see anyone mention that on here or Twitter but RSW made a couple of bad passes in the first half and was mentioned by everyone lol.
Even last season Olowu did make a few mistakes but his pace made up for it and he won the ball back, he’s still only a young lad so will make the odd error.
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Bobby sent off, more learning for him at least.
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Bobby sent off, more learning for him at least.
Was a fraction late.... 75 minute
https://spennymoortownfc.co.uk/2023/02/19/highlights-moors-2-scarborough-athletic-2/
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Not sure it was a red to be honest
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Not sure it was a red to be honest
Very harsh.
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Lunging in like that on a player travelling at that speed it is perfectly reasonable to say is dangerous play.
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Very harsh imo, it wasn’t over the top of the ball or 2 footed. Think the ref has been swayed by the reaction of the Scarborough players and with the the speed Faulkner was going at. We see similar types of tackles to that all the time tho when stopping a counter attack and it’s just a yellow card, hopefully it doesn’t affect him going into tackles in the future.
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Bobby sent off, more learning for him at least.
Was a fraction late.... 75 minute
https://spennymoortownfc.co.uk/2023/02/19/highlights-moors-2-scarborough-athletic-2/
A bit harsh I thought, wild though, a bit of a Sunday league tackle, you'd never see Russ Wilcox doing that.
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He was having a great game and effecting the game defensively and from set pieces. I think Scarborough intentionally had a go at him, one player having him in a head lock shortly before the sending off that went unpunished.
Spennymoor are appealing the decision and the Scarborough manager agreed after the game it was harsh in fairness to him.
He loves it up there, the manager and team mates are great, the manager has nothing but praise for him, and some big clubs are taking notice. Frickley, Worksop and Spennymoor fans have all taken to him in short time and its all been positive playing wise, he is a proper defender, not many about in this neck of the woods.
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He was having a great game and effecting the game defensively and from set pieces. I think Scarborough intentionally had a go at him, one player having him in a head lock shortly before the sending off that went unpunished.
Spennymoor are appealing the decision and the Scarborough manager agreed after the game it was harsh in fairness to him.
He loves it up there, the manager and team mates are great, the manager has nothing but praise for him, and some big clubs are taking notice. Frickley, Worksop and Spennymoor fans have all taken to him in short time and its all been positive playing wise, he is a proper defender, not many about in this neck of the woods.
Exactly why a loan is good for him isn't it? He'll learn from all of those things including the red card. It's definitely a 50-50 one for me, the learning probably is that you'd be on the wrong side of those decisions quite often, was it one he needed to make? Perhaps not and something a good coach will help him with.
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Bobby sent off, more learning for him at least.
Was a fraction late.... 75 minute
https://spennymoortownfc.co.uk/2023/02/19/highlights-moors-2-scarborough-athletic-2/
A bit harsh I thought, wild though, a bit of a Sunday league tackle, you'd never see Russ Wilcox doing that.
Not these days anyway, he is nearly 60.
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He was having a great game and effecting the game defensively and from set pieces. I think Scarborough intentionally had a go at him, one player having him in a head lock shortly before the sending off that went unpunished.
Spennymoor are appealing the decision and the Scarborough manager agreed after the game it was harsh in fairness to him.
He loves it up there, the manager and team mates are great, the manager has nothing but praise for him, and some big clubs are taking notice. Frickley, Worksop and Spennymoor fans have all taken to him in short time and its all been positive playing wise, he is a proper defender, not many about in this neck of the woods.
Exactly why a loan is good for him isn't it? He'll learn from all of those things including the red card. It's definitely a 50-50 one for me, the learning probably is that you'd be on the wrong side of those decisions quite often, was it one he needed to make? Perhaps not and something a good coach will help him with.
Exactly that. Let him make is mistakes further down the pyramid for 5 months. Back for pre season and in the first team fold next season maybe.
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He was having a great game and effecting the game defensively and from set pieces. I think Scarborough intentionally had a go at him, one player having him in a head lock shortly before the sending off that went unpunished.
Spennymoor are appealing the decision and the Scarborough manager agreed after the game it was harsh in fairness to him.
He loves it up there, the manager and team mates are great, the manager has nothing but praise for him, and some big clubs are taking notice. Frickley, Worksop and Spennymoor fans have all taken to him in short time and its all been positive playing wise, he is a proper defender, not many about in this neck of the woods.
Exactly why a loan is good for him isn't it? He'll learn from all of those things including the red card. It's definitely a 50-50 one for me, the learning probably is that you'd be on the wrong side of those decisions quite often, was it one he needed to make? Perhaps not and something a good coach will help him with.
Exactly that. Let him make is mistakes further down the pyramid for 5 months. Back for pre season and in the first team fold next season maybe.
completely agree, said it several times. Look at other young lads we’ve had recently (Jones, Horton, Hasani etc) 1 or 2 mistakes/bad games and they’re deemed not good enough. Let him get experience at a level where there’s less pressure and then work his way up the pyramid, he will probs be in our team next season but all it takes is a couple of bad performances and fans slag him off, it’s not only young lads either, look at Anderson and Miller, Anderson been great for us in league 1 then got injured and since then he’s not got back to that level but hasn’t been as bad as ppl say. Miller hasn’t scored for a while but still contributes a lot to the team but again is being criticised way too much imo.
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BV, great inciteful post that, and very true, Bobby has a three match ban but because of their match schedule is only over the next week the games being Saturday Tuesday Saturday and Spennymoor want to extend the loan as far as I know, they and other teams think a lot of him up there and its a great shop window.
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Ravenhill came off the bench today and got booked. Spennymoor went down 2-0 away to Gloucester City in front of 672 people.
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As soon as they can bring him back, I would start Faulkner at centre half. Give him the opportunity to make the position his.
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As soon as they can bring him back, I would start Faulkner at centre half. Give him the opportunity to make the position his.
I agree. We should get him tied up to a long contract and get him back alongside Olowu and Anderson. The play-offs have gone now (we're not good enough this season) and we're not going to go down with 46 points. Also get Jack Goodman involved in the first team (he scores for fun in the 18s) and give Todd Miller some proper game time.
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What makes you think Todd Miller is worth game time?
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What makes you think Todd Miller is worth game time?
If he’s not, why did we sign him?
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You might have noted, but not every player we sign is much good. Hate to break it to you.
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Kuleya bagged a brace yesterday.
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What makes you think Todd Miller is worth game time?
If he’s not, why did we sign him?
Indeed, have you seen his cameos mmmm!
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Can we recall our loaned out players? Thinking if in a few more games the playoffs is gone is it worth giving the likes of Faulkner some starts? Might save us signing new centre half’s in summer.
Also agree on Goodman getting at least a run from the bench if our seasons gone. Every match report in U18s has him been a threat or scoring so let’s reward it. Rather see that than the likes of Barlow and Seaman on the bench
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Reminder that Gary Mcsheffrey said that Bobby played for Doncaster Rovers for 8/9 months without earning a penny prior to him getting his contract.
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Yes he did CR, and was the stand out player, Richie Wellens and Gary McSheffrey rated him highly and Richie stepped in to ward a number of clubs but especially Middlesbrough who were aware of him being non contract stepping in after the youth cup game, and when Man Utd first took notice.
he is being followed while at Spennymoor also by much the same clubs and has played very well there.
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Ravenhill unused sub today in Spennymoor Town 2-1 home victory against Chorley FC, in front of crowd of 1232 (17 from Chorley FC).
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Ravenhill unused sub today in Spennymoor Town 2-1 home victory against Chorley FC, in front of crowd of 1232 (17 from Chorley FC).
Ravenhill unused sub for Spennymoor, a sad reflection of how good a league 1 squad we had last season when he was starting for us.
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Ravenhill unused sub today in Spennymoor Town 2-1 home victory against Chorley FC, in front of crowd of 1232 (17 from Chorley FC).
Ravenhill unused sub for Spennymoor, a sad reflection of how good a league 1 squad we had last season when he was starting for us.
I have heard this evening that Ravenhill is being sent back to Rovers.
If I’m not mistaken he won’t be able to go out on loan again as he has played for three clubs already this season.
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I always thought of loans as an opportunity to make a career but I guess they can also break careers. I do think Liam has something about him and hope he can start making an impact.
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So they're sending him back? Seems like he isn't wanted unless at a level much lower than ours sadly
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Ravenhill unused sub today in Spennymoor Town 2-1 home victory against Chorley FC, in front of crowd of 1232 (17 from Chorley FC).
Ravenhill unused sub for Spennymoor, a sad reflection of how good a league 1 squad we had last season when he was starting for us.
That team would struggle to stay up in league 2 this season.
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On his recent press conference, when asked about Spennymore ending Ravenhill's loan after not getting much time in their side, Schofield said Ravenhill had been sent back "for whatever reason". It disturbs me that he had not discovered precisely what Spennymore thought of him. If he sends young players out on loan it is surely his role to monitor their progress. It makes you wonder whether he checks up regularly on Faulkner's progress either. For a man who obviously considers himself a coaching professional it seems rather concerning. With 2 players there you would expect him to be in close touch with all the club.
I see he is back on our bench despite not managing to get into a tier 6 side.
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That’s just nonsense, if spennymoor sent him back because they didn’t rate him, then you think our manager should come out publically and say that. ?
Absolute nonsense
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How do you know what Schofield thinks? He volunteered the "for whatever reason" phrase - he was not asked. Perhaps you would refer me to anything he has said about monitoring progress to support what you say.
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Do we know yet what Spennymoor thought of Ravenhill?
Can we get Faulkner back now?
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Thought LR did some good things on Saturday. He's obviously still very raw and probably isn't ready for the level yet, so did make some mistakes, but I thought he played a few decent passes, a couple of which put Miller through on goal. It was slim pickings in terms of positives at the weekend but that was one of them. He might get his chance in the starting XI given the injury situation.
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For much of his loan at Spennymoor Liam unfortunately was ill, and it coincided with Spennymoor having a good run of results so found it difficult to secure a place when back fit in an area of the team where the competition for starts is strong and they have some good players who themselves were back to full fitness.
Bobby went to cover an area of the team that had injury problems so got starts straight away, fitted in well, liked the manager and team mates and the atmosphere around the club and played very very well for them up to getting sent off and suspended in a game he was having a blinder in v Scarborough.
He returned to action at Kings Lynn and played once again very well even though they lost 3-0 and nowhere a reflection of the game really or his own game being once again one of Spennymoor's stand out players.
It is sink or swim at that level, probably harder physically and with more different playing styles than Division 2, and in some cases better players.
Both players at least helped Spennymoor get to the Durham County Cup Final which will be played at the Stadium of Light beating Dunstan in the semi final, its been a good experience for both.
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Thought LR did some good things on Saturday. He's obviously still very raw and probably isn't ready for the level yet, so did make some mistakes, but I thought he played a few decent passes, a couple of which put Miller through on goal. It was slim pickings in terms of positives at the weekend but that was one of them. He might get his chance in the starting XI given the injury situation.
I agree, thought he was one of the positives about Saturday, 3 or 4 times where he played a pass to put us in a good area to create a chance. With biggins looking like he’s out tomorrow and our season basically over, I’d be giving him a start and Goodman would be on the bench aswell.
I didn’t agree with the chants towards schofield on Saturday and think although he is quite stubborn I think he’s always had one eye on next season so sticking with the way of playing ready for next season where he can get rid of the players who can’t play the way he wants to and bring in others who can. He needs to be given the summer and a few months into next season to show what he can do with his own players (he’s only had a January window and it’s still McSheffreys squad).
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Faulkner been recalled
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2023/march/faulkner-recalled
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Hope it’s to start. I’d rather he stay away on loan and play every minute than comeback to be on the bench.
As it is the season is gone we might as well play the likes of Bobby over Nelson as a loanee is for this season only.
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Hope it’s to start. I’d rather he stay away on loan and play every minute than comeback to be on the bench.
As it is the season is gone we might as well play the likes of Bobby over Nelson as a loanee is for this season only.
I'd like to see Nelson and Faulkener play together and stop playing Tommy back there and move him up the field
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Hope it’s to start. I’d rather he stay away on loan and play every minute than comeback to be on the bench.
As it is the season is gone we might as well play the likes of Bobby over Nelson as a loanee is for this season only.
I'd like to see Nelson and Faulkener play together and stop playing Tommy back there and move him up the field
Unless I'm wrong, Nelson misses the next 2 games due to international duty.
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Hope it’s to start. I’d rather he stay away on loan and play every minute than comeback to be on the bench.
As it is the season is gone we might as well play the likes of Bobby over Nelson as a loanee is for this season only.
I'd like to see Nelson and Faulkener play together and stop playing Tommy back there and move him up the field
Yes that would be good I more meant as a rule than a direct replacement
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Yes SS that’s correct
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Hope it’s to start. I’d rather he stay away on loan and play every minute than comeback to be on the bench.
As it is the season is gone we might as well play the likes of Bobby over Nelson as a loanee is for this season only.
I'd like to see Nelson and Faulkener play together and stop playing Tommy back there and move him up the field
Unless I'm wrong, Nelson misses the next 2 games due to international duty.
Yes next 2 games. But I meant for the rest of the season.