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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Branton Red on February 25, 2023, 08:05:49 pm
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Last 4 home games. Hartlepool, Barrow, Tranmere, Bradford.
4 games. 360 plus minutes. In the cold. In perpetual boredom. Regardless of result.
I just do not enjoy watching Rovers at the moment.
I'm going to really struggle to motivate myself to go to the Harrogate game Tuesday week. After work. In the cold.
I'm struggling to justify purchasing a season ticket for next season. Having had a season ticket for nearly 20 years.
It's not because of results. Or that we're in League 2. Or the club's on-field demise over the last 2 years.
It's due to, what I see as, utterly boring, defensive, ineffective football.
I would just like to see my team looking to attack, create chances and score goals. Even if the players aren't particularly good. Even if they fall short results wise. Is that asking too much?!
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I feel that you are in the vast majority.
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George Miller will improve though if we just keep playing him irrespective of how hes done or how tired he looks. The best thing to do would be to play the guy who hasn't scored up top all on his own too to really make sure we drive his morale down to zero. even my 9-year-old said he's been bad the last few weeks, why is Danny the only person in the footballing world who can't see he needs a break? Yet Molyneux, a bit more promising in recent games releagted to the bench.
Boring ineffectual Doncaster again. Danny 'Yeah No' Schofield is really beginning to grind my gears. I really really truly believe that this guy really hasn't got a clue. Look at Huddersfield and what he did to their strikers, amazing really how its exactly the same.
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Yep, enjoyment has gone. Seriously considering not renewing season ticket now.
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We do a few nice passing moves but never sustain any pressure on the opponents. The nice passing moves show we have players who can do it and even have the ability to control a game.
But we consistently have more players in the defensive 3rd meaning the available passes are often backwards. Our wingbacks get the ball too deep and then have no one to pass to.
We’d be able to press much better and get players forwards so much better if we played a 442 or 433. Stubbornness is killing our season.
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Has the enjoyment ever been there since that fateful day at Charlton… Looked good under Moore then COVID put pay to that… so that’s 2 and a half/3 years of dross
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Last 4 home games. Hartlepool, Barrow, Tranmere, Bradford.
4 games. 360 plus minutes. In the cold. Of perpetual boredom. Regardless of result.
I just do not enjoy watching Rovers at the moment.
I'm going to really struggle to motivate myself to go to the Harrogate game Tuesday week. After work. In the cold.
I'm struggling to justify purchasing a season ticket for next season. Having had a season ticket for nearly 20 years.
It's not because of results. Or that we're in League 2. Or the club's on-field demise over the last 2 years.
It's due to, what I see as, utterly boring, defensive, ineffective football.
I would just like to see my team looking to attack, create chances and score goals. Even if the players aren't particularly good. Even if they fall short results wise. Is that asking too much?!
I feel much the same.
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It’s all part of the game though isn’t it? Agreed that the last few seasons has been mostly shite but apart from the glory days of the early 2000’s we as a team have hit peaks and troughs dating back to when I first started watching us back in the mid-eighties (thanks dad). I have definitely had more “ I’m never going back to watch that shit again” than I have “ I can’t wait to watch us next weekend” moments. I’ll be back next season watching whatever is produced and I’m pretty sure
The majority of you will too, what else is there to do on a Saturday?
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Me too
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Don't think for one minute I don't get as pyssed off as you lads .
Last season was difficult to say the least , the worst championship campaign in my lifetime , we really were horrendous , so out of our depth it was ridiculous .
Thing is if you stick with it the good times feel even better because you've earned it .
In any case since when was anything ever guaranteed with Rovers and Barnsley ?
I didn't first go through those turnstiles with my old man in 1967 thinking I was going to be supporting a winning machine all my life .
At least I got that right .
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Has the enjoyment ever been there since that fateful day at Charlton… Looked good under Moore then COVID put pay to that… so that’s 2 and a half/3 years of dross
Yes, it was quite decent under Moore, James, but the team relied heavily on loans.
It's almost 4 years since that night at Charlton, and it's been a downward spiral ever since.
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
I'm not complaining about the team being unsuccessful. Of course it would be great seeing us top of the league.
I've seen plenty of mid-table, even struggling Rovers teams who I've enjoyed watching. I didn't particularly enjoy Darren Moore's team the half season we were top of League 1 (it was far more enjoyable than the current dross mind you). This isn't about success or results as I stated in the OP.
I'm fed up because I find the football being served up is devoid of entertainment value. Regardless of the result (we beat Barrow and Tranmere but I still found the matches tedious). Frankly I'm sat in the stadium bored out of my wits' end every game wondering why an Earth I'm wasting my time here and what else I could be doing with my leisure time instead.
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I understand mate
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
I'm not complaining about the team being unsuccessful. Of course it would be great seeing us top of the league.
I've seen plenty of mid-table, even struggling Rovers teams who I've enjoyed watching. I didn't particularly enjoy Darren Moore's team the half season we were top of League 1 (it was far more enjoyable than the current dross mind you). This isn't about success or results as I stated in the OP.
I'm fed up because I find the football being served up is devoid of entertainment value. Regardless of the result (we beat Barrow and Tranmere but I still found the matches tedious). Frankly I'm sat in the stadium bored out of my whit's end every game wondering why an Earth I'm wasting my time here and what else I could be doing with my leisure time instead.
I do actually get where your coming from Branton .
When we finished 5th in the championship during the covid season you'd imagine I'd be on cloud 9 .
Whilst the results were tremendous the actual way they were achieved was horrendous to watch most of the time even if it was on a computer that particular season .
Many times I thought to myself I'm glad I'm not paying to watch this hoof ball .
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
I'm not complaining about the team being unsuccessful. Of course it would be great seeing us top of the league.
I've seen plenty of mid-table, even struggling Rovers teams who I've enjoyed watching. I didn't particularly enjoy Darren Moore's team the half season we were top of League 1 (it was far more enjoyable than the current dross mind you). This isn't about success or results as I stated in the OP.
I'm fed up because I find the football being served up is devoid of entertainment value. Regardless of the result (we beat Barrow and Tranmere but I still found the matches tedious). Frankly I'm sat in the stadium bored out of my whit's end every game wondering why an Earth I'm wasting my time here and what else I could be doing with my leisure time instead.
I do actually get where your coming from Branton .
When we finished 5th in the championship during the covid season you'd imagine I'd be on cloud 9 .
Whilst the results were tremendous the actual way they were achieved was horrendous to watch most of the time even if it was on a computer that particular season .
Many times I thought to myself I'm glad I'm not paying to watch this hoof ball .
Did you get iFollow for free then mate.
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I lost interest a long time ago. The disappointment in the team's results has gone on far too long. I rarely bother to comment and only come on to put my prediction in PvO.
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
I'm not complaining about the team being unsuccessful. Of course it would be great seeing us top of the league.
I've seen plenty of mid-table, even struggling Rovers teams who I've enjoyed watching. I didn't particularly enjoy Darren Moore's team the half season we were top of League 1 (it was far more enjoyable than the current dross mind you). This isn't about success or results as I stated in the OP.
I'm fed up because I find the football being served up is devoid of entertainment value. Regardless of the result (we beat Barrow and Tranmere but I still found the matches tedious). Frankly I'm sat in the stadium bored out of my whit's end every game wondering why an Earth I'm wasting my time here and what else I could be doing with my leisure time instead.
agree wholeheartedly with this, which is why I’ve taken the decision to walk away. For now. I’ve followed us home and away through many a tough time. Even in the conference. And the football was so much more enjoyable, regardless of quality, but now it’s so utterly boring I’ve lost any feelings for the team, win lose or draw. Hopefully a reset and time away, and maybe even dull Danny getting the shove, will reinvigorate my passion for DRFC.
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We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
I'm not complaining about the team being unsuccessful. Of course it would be great seeing us top of the league.
I've seen plenty of mid-table, even struggling Rovers teams who I've enjoyed watching. I didn't particularly enjoy Darren Moore's team the half season we were top of League 1 (it was far more enjoyable than the current dross mind you). This isn't about success or results as I stated in the OP.
I'm fed up because I find the football being served up is devoid of entertainment value. Regardless of the result (we beat Barrow and Tranmere but I still found the matches tedious). Frankly I'm sat in the stadium bored out of my whit's end every game wondering why an Earth I'm wasting my time here and what else I could be doing with my leisure time instead.
I do actually get where your coming from Branton .
When we finished 5th in the championship during the covid season you'd imagine I'd be on cloud 9 .
Whilst the results were tremendous the actual way they were achieved was horrendous to watch most of the time even if it was on a computer that particular season .
Many times I thought to myself I'm glad I'm not paying to watch this hoof ball .
Did you get iFollow for free then mate.
You did if you bought a ST that season Hound but I refused to fund the club on principle given we were or are allegedly owned by billionaires knowing I wouldn't see a single ball kicked inside the stadium .
I've got a firestick that streams all ifollow games and every sports channel .
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Ditto! Very sad demise. I’ve no interest in watching this awful show anymore. A complete waste of money and time.
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I said the same leaving today. We sacked Bulter, Mcsheffery and Wellens, but see no improvement. Time to point the fingers elsewhere and not at the mangers all the time.
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We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress
it's not quite the same thou, there was investment then, you could look forward to pre season wondering if we would sign a decent player or 2 and normally we did, now it's such a struggle as we cannot compete with most of league 2 or some of the national league for players
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
I'm not complaining about the team being unsuccessful. Of course it would be great seeing us top of the league.
I've seen plenty of mid-table, even struggling Rovers teams who I've enjoyed watching. I didn't particularly enjoy Darren Moore's team the half season we were top of League 1 (it was far more enjoyable than the current dross mind you). This isn't about success or results as I stated in the OP.
I'm fed up because I find the football being served up is devoid of entertainment value. Regardless of the result (we beat Barrow and Tranmere but I still found the matches tedious). Frankly I'm sat in the stadium bored out of my whit's end every game wondering why an Earth I'm wasting my time here and what else I could be doing with my leisure time instead.
I do actually get where your coming from Branton .
When we finished 5th in the championship during the covid season you'd imagine I'd be on cloud 9 .
Whilst the results were tremendous the actual way they were achieved was horrendous to watch most of the time even if it was on a computer that particular season .
Many times I thought to myself I'm glad I'm not paying to watch this hoof ball .
Did you get iFollow for free then mate.
You did if you bought a ST that season Hound but I refused to fund the club on principle given we were or are allegedly owned by billionaires knowing I wouldn't see a single ball kicked inside the stadium .
I've got a firestick that streams all ifollow games and every sports channel .
You know what tyke, I had forgotten that I got iFollow free in exchange for buying my ST.
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Agreed. They're very frustrating to watch at moment. I can't say I've enjoyed any of the football we've played on the whole since Darren Moore left.
Think the general recruitment process since then has let us down - with both managers and players.
It's our team though.
Just wish going to games didn't feel like serving a prison sentence, which it does at moment! :lol:
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Last 4 home games. Hartlepool, Barrow, Tranmere, Bradford.
4 games. 360 plus minutes. In the cold. Of perpetual boredom. Regardless of result.
I just do not enjoy watching Rovers at the moment.
I'm going to really struggle to motivate myself to go to the Harrogate game Tuesday week. After work. In the cold.
I'm struggling to justify purchasing a season ticket for next season. Having had a season ticket for nearly 20 years.
It's not because of results. Or that we're in League 2. Or the club's on-field demise over the last 2 years.
It's due to, what I see as, utterly boring, defensive, ineffective football.
I would just like to see my team looking to attack, create chances and score goals. Even if the players aren't particularly good. Even if they fall short results wise. Is that asking too much?!
I feel much the same.
Same here, wonder what the manager thinks regarding creating chances & entertaining supporters.
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I feel exactly the same and after 20 seasons as a season ticket holder I’ve decided I’ve had enough. I just don’t enjoy going to games anymore. The football is boring at best. Lining up with 7 or 8 defensive minded players every game has done it for me. I should have been proper up for todays Yorkshire Derby but It felt like a chore going.
Did anyone listen to DS comments after the game. He said going 4-4-2 in the last 8 mins made no difference to our attacking output. Felt like a dig at the supporters who have been calling for him to ditch the 5 at the back.
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Exactly tyke we don’t support our teams because of the success’s they offer, it’s in our DNA passed down from father to son… which is exactly what I have done to my 2 boys!! Ha sorry lads
I'm not complaining about the team being unsuccessful. Of course it would be great seeing us top of the league.
I've seen plenty of mid-table, even struggling Rovers teams who I've enjoyed watching. I didn't particularly enjoy Darren Moore's team the half season we were top of League 1 (it was far more enjoyable than the current dross mind you). This isn't about success or results as I stated in the OP.
I'm fed up because I find the football being served up is devoid of entertainment value. Regardless of the result (we beat Barrow and Tranmere but I still found the matches tedious). Frankly I'm sat in the stadium bored out of my wits' end every game wondering why an Earth I'm wasting my time here and what else I could be doing with my leisure time instead.
Absolutely this. This a becoming a common theme now, fans are becoming detached, & the entertainment level is low. You can take getting beat, but the way we play & react to going a goal behind is demoralising. I feel exactly the same and after 20 seasons as a season ticket holder I’ve decided I’ve had enough. I just don’t enjoy going to games anymore. The football is boring at best. Lining up with 7 or 8 defensive minded players every game has done it for me. I should have been proper up for todays Yorkshire Derby but It felt like a chore going.
Did anyone listen to DS comments after the game. He said going 4-4-2 in the last 8 mins made no difference to our attacking output. Felt like a dig at the supporters who have been calling for him to ditch the 5 at the back.
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So in effect he's admitting his 'process' is not working, rather than the fans fault blaming him not playing 2 up front.
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Would for no reason explain " I didn't watch the game today due to work commitments" - so even as an Exile I won't pass comment of today's result/performance.
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I feel embarrassed because I don't go anymore.
I have a season ticket and I don't go.
40+ years of going and I cant justify putting myself through the boredom anymore.
My 16 year old Grandson just looks at his phone the whole game to try to get some form of excitment and he was desperate to start coming last year to watch live football.
1 up front in league 2 and 5 at the back and a gap so huge inbetween the midfield and that one striker is so big, it's not set up for entertainment is it.
We are currently destroying Miller.
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I spent most of yesterday's game berating the whole team which i never thought in a million years would do. I now expect a slow start with us not being able to string 3 passes together, Hurst to nesh every tackle , even move away from their player with the ball instead of challenging , the poor throw in's , Mitchells slow poor kicking and distribution, but i never thought i would see Tommy Rowe being out run , out muscled and out thought in a league 2 game.
I am now dreading the call from the Ticket office asking why i haven't renewed , they had better have a good incentive or they're wasting their time i'm afraid.
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I feel exactly the same and after 20 seasons as a season ticket holder I’ve decided I’ve had enough. I just don’t enjoy going to games anymore. The football is boring at best. Lining up with 7 or 8 defensive minded players every game has done it for me. I should have been proper up for todays Yorkshire Derby but It felt like a chore going.
Did anyone listen to DS comments after the game. He said going 4-4-2 in the last 8 mins made no difference to our attacking output. Felt like a dig at the supporters who have been calling for him to ditch the 5 at the back.
Maxwell was on the Ifollow commentary and he said that they had worked on the 442 but only on the out of possession side of things, not how to play it offensively. So not surprising that it didn't effect how we played.
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I spent most of yesterday's game berating the whole team which i never thought in a million years would do. I now expect a slow start with us not being able to string 3 passes together, Hurst to nesh every tackle , even move away from their player with the ball instead of challenging , the poor throw in's , Mitchells slow poor kicking and distribution, but i never thought i would see Tommy Rowe being out run , out muscled and out thought in a league 2 game.
I am now dreading the call from the Ticket office asking why i haven't renewed , they had better have a good incentive or they're wasting their time i'm afraid.
Rowe sadly is looking a shadow of the player he used to be. Suppose being shoved to CB doesn't help. His best position for me would RCF in this set up
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Mr Blunt said we would Bounce Back Decisively. He must have thought we had the squad to do it. Yet our performances on the pitch are anything but decisive. We play slow ponderous and boring football and hardly ever look like scoring. The playoffs are the minimum this season now it seems.
We are expecting to get better players in the summer that won’t happen IMO. If by a miracle we do get promoted the owners will have nightmares on players we will have to sign to keep in league one.
The performances on the pitch are switching supporters and friends off.
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Every season that goes by I think the budget for players is getting smaller. What we have has been wasted. I say the budget is getting smaller because the quality of players we get and market we are shopping in is getting more and more restricted. We are not even competing with sides in our own league for free transfers. We get ones nobody else is interested in.
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Every season that goes by I think the budget for players is getting smaller. What we have has been wasted. I say the budget is getting smaller because the quality of players we get and market we are shopping in is getting more and more restricted. We are not even competing with sides in our own league for free transfers. We get ones nobody else is interested in.
Yes & with the attendances we get, for a league 2 side, is criminal.
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Along with Mansfield we are tied as 6th largest attendances in League Two, yet I don’t think other than a weekend in August we have been as high as 6th place all season. We are currently 12th. It’s not great really is it.
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Tyke19062, I always expect Barnsley to be floating around the middle/bottom of the Championship. and if they ever come down go straight back up. I also expect Rovers to be around or in the League One playoffs, and if we go up don't easily stay there. But for Rovers to be middle of League Two is a disappointment no matter what the excuse from the club.
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We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress
You're not going to get players like Stock, Wellens, Copps in League Two. I would say Mr Schofield will keep his job this season but if we start next season poorly, he'll be gone.
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“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
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We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress
You're not going to get players like Stock, Wellens, Copps in League Two. I would say Mr Schofield will keep his job this season but if we start next season poorly, he'll be gone.
And we'll rebuild again with our identity, DNA etc..
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We need to give DS time it’s similar to when SOD was transforming the time, however he did it whilst we were on an upward trend.
Think he needs more of his own players in to achieve success - work in progress
You're not going to get players like Stock, Wellens, Copps in League Two. I would say Mr Schofield will keep his job this season but if we start next season poorly, he'll be gone.
No we are not going to get players of that level I agree. So this summer Copps and Schofield should not be accepting second or third best. They should have a backbone if they can’t get the players they want with our budget, they should say so. Don’t bring a player just for the sake of it.
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“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
That’s twice you’ve used that quote in two different threads. It’s insane.
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The manager has to be given time, unless performances show no sign of improvement over a length of time. He needs a reliable spine to the side that we lack.
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We can’t afford a ‘reliable spine’. If we could, we’d have had one by now!
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I wasn’t suggesting we would get a Stock or Wellens but he needs chance to get his own L2 players that can comprehend how he wants to play
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I’m not sure L2 has a massive stock of players who are capable of playing how DS wants to play
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We can’t afford a ‘reliable spine’. If we could, we’d have had one by now!
The 11 put out on Saturday is decent imo with a decent spine. Made to look worse by playing a way they can’t.
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Just out of interest do any other teams play the same formation as DS- it would be good to see what it is supposed to look like. I do share the view that it is very hard to watch atm but I hope that all the doubters keep the faith and renew- it’s times like these when the club really need us if we are going to turn round this painful decline.
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To Schofield, I think we all know that first and foremost football is a process and as I’ve said before, he is not flexible in his approach. Processes work well when they are not disturbed, but football is a game where competition for the ball is a constant interference with the process. I know this is an oversimplification and he and anyone in any planning system obviously recognises that a counter-force influences success. However the more you believe what you advocate will succeed, the less willing you are likely to adapt.
The workman blaming his “tools” is an old adage and every manager will do better with better players, but surely the objective in hiring a competent leader is that he makes better use of his assets. McSheffery would probably have done better with better players and without the obfuscation of coach-speak.
In any case, Schofield was considered to be an improvement on his predecessor and having now actually brought in players of his own choice we should be seeing improved results. But are we?
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How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player? Or really looked forward to a rival that we played because we knew we could beat them? It must be at least 4-5 seasons ago,
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A long time ago, since being self sustaining came into play.
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How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player? Or really looked forward to a rival that we played because we knew we could beat them? It must be at least 4-5 seasons ago,
“How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player”.
I could ask how long since we had much excitement at a game.
On Saturday I only got on the edge of my seat once, when Miller got in behind the right back and played the ball across goal to Hurst who just couldn’t stretch far enough to make a good contact with his shot.
Other than that it was mind numbingly boring when we had the ball.
It is the same most weeks, hardly any occasions when we look likely to get into a scoring situation.
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How long is it since we had any sense of excitement when we signed a player? Or really looked forward to a rival that we played because we knew we could beat them? It must be at least 4-5 seasons ago,
Absolutely, makes you wonder when it will end, it's certainly testing us to the limit that's for sure.
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I'm afraid Schofield is a myth, the football is more boring that under McSheffrey. 5 at the back and one up top and not a guy anywhere within 40 yards of him. Really great to watch.
By the way, has anyone else noticed that we struggle toward the end of the game lately and even he admits so? Its like he mucks up the half time team talk or his substitutions don't work.
Its such a weird feeling driving to games now, excitement is long gone. Just give it a go for gods sake, I'd rather finish mid-table losing the odd game 4-3 than see a 0-1, 0-0 game every time I go the games
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Last 4 home games. Hartlepool, Barrow, Tranmere, Bradford.
4 games. 360 plus minutes. In the cold. In perpetual boredom. Regardless of result.
I just do not enjoy watching Rovers at the moment.
I'm going to really struggle to motivate myself to go to the Harrogate game Tuesday week. After work. In the cold.
I'm struggling to justify purchasing a season ticket for next season. Having had a season ticket for nearly 20 years.
It's not because of results. Or that we're in League 2. Or the club's on-field demise over the last 2 years.
It's due to, what I see as, utterly boring, defensive, ineffective football.
I would just like to see my team looking to attack, create chances and score goals. Even if the players aren't particularly good. Even if they fall short results wise. Is that asking too much?!
20 odd likes on my OP with several others having the same/similar opinion in their replies.
Over 2,300 views of this thread (yes I know this includes multiple views by the same person)
Not one single person has replied in disagreement to say that they are enjoying Rovers play at the moment.
Not one.
How telling.
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Tyke19062, I always expect Barnsley to be floating around the middle/bottom of the Championship. and if they ever come down go straight back up. I also expect Rovers to be around or in the League One playoffs, and if we go up don't easily stay there. But for Rovers to be middle of League Two is a disappointment no matter what the excuse from the club.
I agree that the middle of league two is unacceptable Michael for Rovers and you are underperforming massively at the moment .
Tough gig league one this season and it is definitely harder than the last time we were down at this level in my opinion .
We've lost only 3 games since the beginning of October and it's only good enough for the last play off spot .
We are on a run at the moment having taken 19 points out of the last 21 and only gone up one place and that's only because we beat the team directly above us last Saturday .
Not saying Rovers can't compete at the top end of league one but it's definitely getting more difficult as the championship these days relegates some bloody big clubs and far bigger ones than they used to be when we've managed to get back to the championship .
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Don't think for one minute I don't get as pyssed off as you lads .
Last season was difficult to say the least , the worst championship campaign in my lifetime , we really were horrendous , so out of our depth it was ridiculous .
Thing is if you stick with it the good times feel even better because you've earned it .
In any case since when was anything ever guaranteed with Rovers and Barnsley ?
I didn't first go through those turnstiles with my old man in 1967 thinking I was going to be supporting a winning machine all my life .
At least I got that right .
With respect Tyke, & I'm not doubting for one second you get as pi--ed off as us, what I would doubt is that you haven't witnessed such mind numbingly boring, gutless, aimless, & at times unacceptable hopeless football we have had to endure over the last twelve months or so. If you ever did, you have my utmost sympathy! In my 50 odd years of following Rovers, I have never felt so detached from the club. I don’t doubt there are good people at the club trying to put things right, but we are miles & miles away of what we were just a few years ago.
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The first eleven is good enough to be playoffs at the least. We have underachieved massively. This is not a good league and it’s been made harder than it needed to be.
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We're not good enough up top to go up. We have a keeper who pulls of worldies and the next minute rushes off his line or let's the ball through his hands.
Now we have a settled defence we look okay there but that won't be enough sadly. Were way of being a promotion side, however we're way off being relegation fodder like some have said. 12th is about right
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I've not been much this year, we live an hour and a half away, but got a football mad 8 year old who has been given a Donny kit each year since birth. I've taken him 3 times and they've lost each time and not scored a goal for him yet. He isn't interested in going any more and has started refusing to wear his kit for training when he was always proud to wear it before and be a bit different to all the Wolves, Villa, Man City and Liverpool kits.
Last time I went (Walsall at home) really felt like the life had been sucked out of the stadium and it wasn't a fun place to be. He doesn't want to go and has now bought himself (with his own money I must add!) a Man City kit, and it devastates me that it looks like I won't spend Saturdays heading there (willingly) with him and my Dad.
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I've not been much this year, we live an hour and a half away, but got a football mad 8 year old who has been given a Donny kit each year since birth. I've taken him 3 times and they've lost each time and not scored a goal for him yet. He isn't interested in going any more and has started refusing to wear his kit for training when he was always proud to wear it before and be a bit different to all the Wolves, Villa, Man City and Liverpool kits.
Last time I went (Walsall at home) really felt like the life had been sucked out of the stadium and it wasn't a fun place to be. He doesn't want to go and has now bought himself (with his own money I must add!) a Man City kit, and it devastates me that it looks like I won't spend Saturdays heading there (willingly) with him and my Dad.
Always tough with an 8 yr old. When my youngest was playing junior football his team and him got hammered every week, by double figures in many cases for a whole season and a half. The message from the manager, and parents, stick together, knuckle down and all will come good. And in time it did. They became a very tough, resilient, strong outfit. He also failed his 11 plus at a time when every single one of his mates passed and whilst they went to the local grammar school he trotted off to the local secondary school, alone. He took it on the chin, after some tears I might add, and knuckled down. He put in a lot of graft. Made new friends. Moved forward. Positively.
Life is about taking the knocks, as well as the spoils. I did my very best to instill this in him from a young age, and i believe it worked. He now takes most of life’s upsets in his stride. He is a very resilient young sole, and I put that down to his young footballing days when defeat was the norm.
He is now 25 and about to become a senior manager for one of the big four accountancy firms in London getting paid sums of money I have only ever read about earning.
And what makes me proudest, is, he has supported Rovers, with me, for the last 17 years. As I first took him when he was 8. There is, and has only been, and will only be, one team in his life. Like me, and my father before me.
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I've not been much this year, we live an hour and a half away, but got a football mad 8 year old who has been given a Donny kit each year since birth. I've taken him 3 times and they've lost each time and not scored a goal for him yet. He isn't interested in going any more and has started refusing to wear his kit for training when he was always proud to wear it before and be a bit different to all the Wolves, Villa, Man City and Liverpool kits.
Last time I went (Walsall at home) really felt like the life had been sucked out of the stadium and it wasn't a fun place to be. He doesn't want to go and has now bought himself (with his own money I must add!) a Man City kit, and it devastates me that it looks like I won't spend Saturdays heading there (willingly) with him and my Dad.
This is quite depressing to read, I feel for you.
I have 2 boys and i can’t wait to spend my Saturdays watching with them.
My oldest is 5 and has been twice this season both games lost against Kings Lynn and Hartlepool. He’s not really enjoyed either.
I have got him a season ticket for next year and hopefully he has a bit more to cheer about.
I hope your lad comes back round, it would be good if the club could offer him something special to win him back round initially but this slump has got to be stopped soon as we are going to lose another generation.
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Imagine if your lad was 8, during a mid week, mid winter away trip to Barrow in the Conference years. Then a few years later taking that same lad to The Millenium Stadium, Wembley, Leeds, Derby, Brighton, and the like.
This is why we follow. This is why we knuckle down when the going is tough. This is why we survive and see through the Doldrums.
I too am a little desolate at the moment. Uninspired. But I’ll never give in . I’ll never forsake my home town club.
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I've not been much this year, we live an hour and a half away, but got a football mad 8 year old who has been given a Donny kit each year since birth. I've taken him 3 times and they've lost each time and not scored a goal for him yet. He isn't interested in going any more and has started refusing to wear his kit for training when he was always proud to wear it before and be a bit different to all the Wolves, Villa, Man City and Liverpool kits.
Last time I went (Walsall at home) really felt like the life had been sucked out of the stadium and it wasn't a fun place to be. He doesn't want to go and has now bought himself (with his own money I must add!) a Man City kit, and it devastates me that it looks like I won't spend Saturdays heading there (willingly) with him and my Dad.
That's sad, I have a similar problem, we have a 10 year old grandson, 9 year old granddaughter, taken them 5 times with a new shirt. We have not won a game & had the grand total of 2 goals. Grandson is now totally disinterested, might coax granddaughter because she likes Donny dog!!
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1st games are huge to get a fan hooked. I was about 11/12 when I was first taken (not interested in football at all till then to my dads horror) and was so lucky to see us draw 3-3 with Derby at Belle vue (can’t remember who won on pens)
If my 1st game would have been something like what we’re getting now I’m not sure I’d have got hooked at that age. I’d certainly not look forward to my dad saying we’re going on a freezing cold Tuesday like I did thereafter
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The first eleven is good enough to be playoffs at the least. We have underachieved massively. This is not a good league and it’s been made harder than it needed to be.
Our players are overrated by our fans.
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1st games are huge to get a fan hooked. I was about 11/12 when I was first taken (not interested in football at all till then to my dads horror) and was so lucky to see us draw 3-3 with Derby at Belle vue (can’t remember who won on pens)
If my 1st game would have been something like what we’re getting now I’m not sure I’d have got hooked at that age. I’d certainly not look forward to my dad saying we’re going on a freezing cold Tuesday like I did thereafter
Wasn’t that the game we won 8-7 on pens?
I agree with most of what you say but for me as a kid, it was the atmosphere as much as the result that got me hooked. As there is very little atmosphere watching the rovers at home lately, I doubt I’d have the same love of football if this was my introduction as an under 10.
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My first game was 0-4 v Torquay.....47 years ago come August, and I was Rovers through and through from then.
Grandson 1 has got the bug, but is obviously fed up with our poor we've been recently, but i keep telling him the bad days make the good days even better.
Grandson 2 would rather watch Liverpool on telly, work to be done on that one.
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The first eleven is good enough to be playoffs at the least. We have underachieved massively. This is not a good league and it’s been made harder than it needed to be.
Our players are overrated by our fans.
I don’t think they are, some fans are happy for happy’s sake. The two managers we’ve had recently, both have failed to consistently get the best from players. Sometimes the boat has to be rocked and admit the people managing the side haven’t been good enough.
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My first game was in 02/03. 0-0 against Halifax on a cold winters night I think. I was only 7 and didn’t have anything to cheer that night but something about it just made me fall in love. All I can remember is Simon Marples bombing forwards on the right.
My grandad could see me starting to get in to football and glory support Arsenal, so saw an opportunity to indoctrinate me I think! His timing was perfect, as the next 5 years was surely not matched by any other football fans in the country.
I grew up around Selby where there isn’t many Rovers fans at all. If I would get teased for supporting Rovers over Man U / Arsenal my grandad would say “ask them how many games they’ve been to”.
He passed away in 2020 so has been spared seeing this decline. But he’d come back and kill me if he knew I ever gave up on it.
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1st games are huge to get a fan hooked. I was about 11/12 when I was first taken (not interested in football at all till then to my dads horror) and was so lucky to see us draw 3-3 with Derby at Belle vue (can’t remember who won on pens)
If my 1st game would have been something like what we’re getting now I’m not sure I’d have got hooked at that age. I’d certainly not look forward to my dad saying we’re going on a freezing cold Tuesday like I did thereafter
Wasn’t that the game we won 8-7 on pens?
I agree with most of what you say but for me as a kid, it was the atmosphere as much as the result that got me hooked. As there is very little atmosphere watching the rovers at home lately, I doubt I’d have the same love of football if this was my introduction as an under 10.
Yes. The atmosphere was great too which was a part of it as much as result. Packed in standing at belle vue watching a end to end game like that I think anyone would be hooked after that.
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My first game was 85. Dad took me after much pestering by myself to “that” game against QPR.