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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: donny dave on March 01, 2023, 08:35:06 pm
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
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Yeh I picked up on that comment
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I was not shore if i had mis heard talk about the Blades.
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Just listened to it again. 100 % talking about Rovers.
Very interesting this, it's certainly got legs, given its been rumoured for a while now.
Might also explain why the season tickets have gone on sale much earlier than usual.
For me, any takeover is very much welcome.
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There was a load of talk about it on twitter at one point. Various people saying they were in the know. I fdidnt think much of it without anything concrete to go on but if BBC are reporting maybe more to it than rumours on twitter.
Back then the suggestion was it’s the people who own eco power but that could have been guesswork
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Round about the 35 min mark last night
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Eco power would be ideal really
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Enco power would be ideal really
Why?
Do they have the money?
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They appear to have plenty, they are splashing it on various sponsorships etc
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Eco power would be ideal really
No they really wouldn’t
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How have they got it
Would they pass the ownership test
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Eco power would be ideal really
I honestly think this could be catastrophic.
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Built on a house of cards isnt it?
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They appear to have plenty, they are splashing it on various sponsorships etc
Appear to have?
Thats a really sound basis for your opinion
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Eco power would be ideal really
From what I've heard Eco Power would not be ideal!
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
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Eco power would be ideal really
No they really wouldn’t
Why ?
I honestly don't know anything about them ?
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
With respect, why would you know ?
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
With respect, why would you know ?
sm is incredibly close to the club and has regular meetings with them etc, and has been for many years. If he says there's nothing in it, I'd take it at face value.
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Why would they tell him?
If I wanted something kept secret, I wouldn't tell anyone, let alone a fans representative.
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As the VSC person would imagine they would need to mention it, bearing in mind the VSC I believe hold shares
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Mods I started this thread could it be locked or deleted please I wish I had not started it.
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Why would they tell him?
If I wanted something kept secret, I wouldn't tell anyone, let alone a fans representative.
The VSC have to be informed
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There was a load of talk about it on twitter at one point. Various people saying they were in the know. I fdidnt think much of it without anything concrete to go on but if BBC are reporting maybe more to it than rumours on twitter.
Back then the suggestion was it’s the people who own eco power but that could have been guesswork
Unless, of course, someone at Radio Sheffield is doing some lazy journalism and repeating the Twitter BS.
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Just cannot see Eco having the wherewithal to take over the club. Not something a limited company should be doing. Far too risky and a potential drain on company profits.
Now, if one or two individual owners of Eco wanted to put money in to the current set up and join the board, then that's up to them what they choose to do with their wealth.
Just as Terry & Dick invested individually having been successful with Keepmoat, it wasn't Keepmoat as a company that invested, well only from a sponsorship/PR perspective with the stadium naming rights etc. This would make more sense if anything.
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Why would they tell him?
If I wanted something kept secret, I wouldn't tell anyone, let alone a fans representative.
The VSC have to be informed
Why is that though ?
The vsc only have a very tiny percentage of shares, I dare say less than half of 1% .
I own shares in tesco, but if the major shareholders were bought out, I wouldn't expect to be consulted about it.
Football clubs might be different, I don't know if there are any specific rules about this?
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Why would they tell him?
If I wanted something kept secret, I wouldn't tell anyone, let alone a fans representative.
The VSC have to be informed
Why is that though ?
The vsc only have a very tiny percentage of shares, I dare say less than half of 1% .
I own shares in tesco, but if the major shareholders were bought out, I wouldn't expect to be consulted about it.
Football clubs might be different, I don't know if there are any specific rules about this?
As well as the shareholding, there's an agreement called 'A memorandum of understanding', which covers such things.
S_M, the VSC, were kept informed on the progress of previous takeover attempts.
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If Tesco were bought out by another company in an all-cash deal, resulting in either a forced sale of your shares or a consolidation of yours shares into shares of the new parent company you can be damned sure you would be informed, ahead of time, as a shareholder...
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Why would they tell him?
If I wanted something kept secret, I wouldn't tell anyone, let alone a fans representative.
The VSC have to be informed
Why is that though ?
The vsc only have a very tiny percentage of shares, I dare say less than half of 1% .
I own shares in tesco, but if the major shareholders were bought out, I wouldn't expect to be consulted about it.
Football clubs might be different, I don't know if there are any specific rules about this?
As well as the shareholding, there's an agreement called 'A memorandum of understanding', which covers such things.
S_M, the VSC, were kept informed on the progress of previous takeover attempts.
OK, interesting
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If Tesco were bought out by another company in an all-cash deal, resulting in either a forced sale of your shares or a consolidation of yours shares into shares of the new parent company you can be damned sure you would be informed, ahead of time, as a shareholder...
Well, of course in that scenario...
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Just listened to it again. 100 % talking about Rovers.
Very interesting this, it's certainly got legs, given its been rumoured for a while now.
Might also explain why the season tickets have gone on sale much earlier than usual.
For me, any takeover is very much welcome.
Season tickets on sale much earlier than usual, are sure of that, I thought they went on sale roughly the same time last year
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
With respect, why would you know ?
With respect, after only being on forum a fortnight maybe you aren't the club expert just yet
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What's posting on this forum got to do with being an expert on the club ?
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Just listened to it again. 100 % talking about Rovers.
Very interesting this, it's certainly got legs, given its been rumoured for a while now.
Might also explain why the season tickets have gone on sale much earlier than usual.
For me, any takeover is very much welcome.
Season tickets on sale much earlier than usual, are sure of that, I thought they went on sale roughly the same time last year
They went on sale in June last year
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Well just like the VSC, which I’m a member like many, the Shadow Board would also be told of any such developments. There are NONE.
Hope that clarifies. Regards.DD
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Just listened to it again. 100 % talking about Rovers.
Very interesting this, it's certainly got legs, given its been rumoured for a while now.
Might also explain why the season tickets have gone on sale much earlier than usual.
For me, any takeover is very much welcome.
Season tickets on sale much earlier than usual, are sure of that, I thought they went on sale roughly the same time last year
They went on sale in June last year
Not the 21st of Feb?
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/202223-together-as-one/
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I bought my season ticket 10th march last year.
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I’ve just checked my on line bank statement and I paid Doncaster Rovers a three figure sum of money on the 22nd of February 2022, not exactly June
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That doesn’t fit the agenda though
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Just listened to it again. 100 % talking about Rovers.
Very interesting this, it's certainly got legs, given its been rumoured for a while now.
Might also explain why the season tickets have gone on sale much earlier than usual.
For me, any takeover is very much welcome.
Season tickets on sale much earlier than usual, are sure of that, I thought they went on sale roughly the same time last year
They went on sale in June last year
Not the 21st of Feb?
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2022/february/202223-together-as-one/
Stand corrected, think it was the year before I was thinking
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Season ticket sales have started in February for the last few years.
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Not that it matters
https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/202122-season-ticket-memberships-launched/
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Ah yes, the post covid one.
Well remembered.
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Because of covid and nobody knew if we were allowed to watch football
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I took the Radio Sheffield bit as investment not a takeover
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We'll know soon enough if it's a buy out or investment.
But I doubt it's further investment, knowing this board and how they do things.
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We'll know soon enough if it's a buy out or investment.
But I doubt it's further investment, knowing this board and how they do things.
How will we know soon enough?
Or if theres anything there at all?
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
With respect, why would you know ?
Strangely enough it is quite normal for a club to discuss ownership issues with it's supporters trust after all that's why the trust exists.
But throw in a signed MOU between both parties,
and the change in FA rules on Fan Engagement,
and the EFL rules on Fan Engagement,
and the upcoming appointment of a independent regulator along with changes in licensing and fan engagement,
and the relationship built between the VSC and the club when rolling out IRWT,
and the fact the VSC is a shareholder in DRFC
and the fact that we have a great relationship with the CEO and other senior people at the club,
I can't think of a single reason why the club would keep us informed.
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We'll know soon enough if it's a buy out or investment.
But I doubt it's further investment, knowing this board and how they do things.
I'm beginning to wonder where you do your shopping, a cheap supermarket perhaps mmm!
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We'll know soon enough if it's a buy out or investment.
But I doubt it's further investment, knowing this board and how they do things.
I'm beginning to wonder where you do your shopping, a cheap supermarket perhaps mmm!
Not sure what you mean.
But the current regime won't he around forever.
Hence 'soon enough'
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
With respect, why would you know ?
Strangely enough it is quite normal for a club to discuss ownership issues with it's supporters trust after all that's why the trust exists.
But throw in a signed MOU between both parties,
and the change in FA rules on Fan Engagement,
and the EFL rules on Fan Engagement,
and the upcoming appointment of a independent regulator along with changes in licensing and fan engagement,
and the relationship built between the VSC and the club when rolling out IRWT,
and the fact the VSC is a shareholder in DRFC
and the fact that we have a great relationship with the CEO and other senior people at the club,
I can't think of a single reason why the club would keep us informed.
OK Martin, thankyou for your reply.
But next time maybe drop the sarcasm eh ?
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We'll know soon enough if it's a buy out or investment.
But I doubt it's further investment, knowing this board and how they do things.
How will we know soon enough?
Or if theres anything there at all?
Of course we will know soon enough, that's how time works. It's linear, it moves forward :lol:
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We'll know soon enough if it's a buy out or investment.
But I doubt it's further investment, knowing this board and how they do things.
There is no buy out or investment. And then you go on to claim to know stuff!! :silly:
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And there have also been unfounded rumours that they paid the wage bill before Christmas and that the club would be in Administration by now.
Probably best to take these things with a large pinch of salt.
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Just listened to it again. 100 % talking about Rovers.
Very interesting this, it's certainly got legs, given its been rumoured for a while now.
Might also explain why the season tickets have gone on sale much earlier than usual.
For me, any takeover is very much welcome.
Season tickets on sale much earlier than usual, are sure of that, I thought they went on sale roughly the same time last year
They went on sale in June last year
They never went on sale this time last year, because we were unsur what division we would end up in, the club know now that we will either stay in L2 or a bonus to them if we go to the Conference
They went on sale in February last year, when it was still possible (however unlikely/undeserved) that we would be in League One this season.
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
You have done research on this I assume?
Or is it a rumour circulated amongst the gullible?
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Paid for my season ticket on 19th February last year
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
Unless you have verified evidence of the above statement i'd suggest you don't post this as fact, it tends to upset the natives and sets people off in all sorts of weird directions which then winds up others. Unnecessary.
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
With respect, why would you know ?
With respect, after only being on forum a fortnight maybe you aren't the club expert just yet
Maybe I'm just wary of someone who just joined and questioned why SM would know about investment but then know enough to refer to Martin by name a touch further down the thread
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I’ve just checked my on line bank statement and I paid Doncaster Rovers a three figure sum of money on the 22nd of February 2022, not exactly June
£1:99
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Was I hearing things tonight on Radio Sheffield when they said there was interested PARTIES and they half expected something to have been done in January.
It's just a rumour, nothing in it at all.
With respect, why would you know ?
With respect, after only being on forum a fortnight maybe you aren't the club expert just yet
Maybe I'm just wary of someone who just joined and questioned why SM would know about investment but then know enough to refer to Martin by name a touch further down the thread
My thinking as well
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Hence my query as to which "supermarket" he shopped at
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He's accused someone else of being sarcastic, so he couldn't possibly be one of that mob! :whistle:
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I’ve just checked my on line bank statement and I paid Doncaster Rovers a three figure sum of money on the 22nd of February 2022, not exactly June
£1:99
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
This hasn’t happened, for reasons posted above the VSC would have been informed, they haven’t!
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Eco-Power do not have the money that can transform us. You only have to look at their accounts to see that. Wealthy, but probably much less than Terry alone. Given the club is sustainable to a large extent, them as new owners might bring in new energy or new ideas, but the only way they would bring in significant new funds to transform our situation is going to be through debt, which would I suspect be secured against the club, not them. Good that local businesspeople want to come on board but people need to think through the implications of arguably enthusiastic and well-meaning but thinly resourced new owners, might do to a club that is sustainable if boring.
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Eco-Power do not have the money that can transform us. You only have to look at their accounts to see that. Wealthy, but probably much less than Terry alone. Given the club is sustainable to a large extent, them as new owners might bring in new energy or new ideas, but the only way they would bring in significant new funds to transform our situation is going to be through debt, which would I suspect be secured against the club, not them. Good that local businesspeople want to come on board but people need to think through the implications of arguably enthusiastic and well-meaning but thinly resourced new owners, might do to a club that is sustainable if boring.
A club that is sustainable and boring will not stay sustainable for long though.
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Eco-Power do not have the money that can transform us. You only have to look at their accounts to see that. Wealthy, but probably much less than Terry alone. Given the club is sustainable to a large extent, them as new owners might bring in new energy or new ideas, but the only way they would bring in significant new funds to transform our situation is going to be through debt, which would I suspect be secured against the club, not them. Good that local businesspeople want to come on board but people need to think through the implications of arguably enthusiastic and well-meaning but thinly resourced new owners, might do to a club that is sustainable if boring.
A club that is sustainable and boring will not stay sustainable for long though.
A club that is unsustainable wont have the opportunity to be boring.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
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I think what needs to be taken into consideration is the difference to a club breaking even and a long term strategy for the club to be self sustainable.
With a drop in leagues, standards, comes a dip in interests, attendances and revenues. Which isn't sustainable. Equally paying poor players isn't sustainable.
Scouting, recruitment and retention are key as well as the overlooked and massively undervalued development of the youth players at DRFC. I truly believe that the promotion of players from within into the first team and selling players on (generating massive revenues) would be a great model of sustainability for the club.
If the owners have a plan and a vision they should be undeterred in the follow up and implementation of it.
What it really always comes down to is the performance (not necessarily the results on the pitch) Rovers fans want to see attacking football with physical commitment to the cause as a minimum. If that's provided then the fans will follow.
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
My mate is good friends with the owner of eco power and he told him that’s all I know
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
My mate is good friends with the owner of eco power and he told him that’s all I know
And who's the owner of Eco Power?
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
My mate is good friends with the owner of eco power and he told him that’s all I know
And who's the owner of Eco Power?
Haha am I under arrest? Iv told you what know from what I believe is a credible source , it’s up to you if u believe it or not I’m not fussed
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Anyone noticed how the 'sources' for these rumours always have to be dragged out of people (and then it's always a mate of a mate, no names no pack drill), instead of being referred to in the first place?
I can only presume that the repeaters of these rumours already know just how flimsy these 'sources' are. And that's if they're real!
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Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
Eco power group has had 2 bids rejected to join the board and invest but not to fully buy the club
And you know that for a fact do you? Just asking.
My mate is good friends with the owner of eco power and he told him that’s all I know
Let's hope the other co-owners are as well informed as your mate!
Seriously, whether they have made any form of approach 'bid'?, as said by CBcb above, I'm sure we would all welcome new investment, new energy, new ideas but as Terry said they just wouldn't sell or entertain anything unless it's in the best long term interests of the club. At the meet the owners event, he pretty much said they wouldn't sell us down the river.
One would have to ask what do Eco Power want in return for their involvement other than the sponsorship they already have? Anything that would put the club at risk for short term gain just won't be considered.
Until such time as anything changes, we are secure but it's down to us whether we value what we have rather than wish someone would shower more money on us for the love of it.
At the Meet the Owners event, Mike Follows asked a great question, and probably one that many wanted to ask.
What was telling for me wasn't the response of Terry and David so much, but the passionate response from Copps. You could tell he really cares about our club, almost to the point of challenging us to care as much by sticking with it through the difficult times to appreciate the better times ahead.
I'm more than willing to pay for that and help Copps to continue to turn things around.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Unless things change then attendances next season will be well down. That wont do a lot for sustainability will it?
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Unless things change then attendances next season will be well down. That wont do a lot for sustainability will it?
Same answer.
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
Money from Club Doncaster comes into Rovers. It's a mechanism for funding the football side.
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Unless things change then attendances next season will be well down. That wont do a lot for sustainability will it?
The tactics the current manager employs will drive more fans away, it's truly shocking. I am hoping against hope he has a very good recruitment in the summer, because if not, our attendances will dwindle, people won't pay to watch absolute dross.
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.
It might as well be to some
COYR
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When considering investment and new owners should we not take account of whether (for example) a bunch of people who run an energy company would actually have the expertise to run a football club. Does only money matter? I believe that some US investors in British clubs have owned sports franchises in the States, so they would have a good starting point.
Obviously they would hire football people to manage and coach etc., but investment and spending decisions sit above that operation and it is surely a considerable challenge. Indeed some newcomers may well have come unstuck simply because they lacked that expertise.
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We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.
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When considering investment and new owners should we not take account of whether (for example) a bunch of people who run an energy company would actually have the expertise to run a football club. Does only money matter? I believe that some US investors in British clubs have owned sports franchises in the States, so they would have a good starting point.
Obviously they would hire football people to manage and coach etc., but investment and spending decisions sit above that operation and it is surely a considerable challenge. Indeed some newcomers may well have come unstuck simply because they lacked that expertise.
You've hit the nail on the head with the word "expertise", mate. When it comes to running a football club, our current chairman is clearly lacking in it.
Being in the bottom half of the lowest tier in the EFL tells us that.
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JR owned a cosmetic surgery business and Terry and Dick were builders.
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We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.
What makes you think they are good owners?
The clubs plummeted under their sole ownership
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?
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We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.
Yep, be careful what you wish for. We all remember our last benefactor don’t we?
COYR
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?
Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?
Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?
Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board
Read again.
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?
Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board
Read again.
Bless, think it's you that needs to read again, assuming you can ?
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Am I getting confused here. This EcoPower company, are they anything to do with a larger green energy group. Or are they just a local waste and skip here company?
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So ECO doesn't have enough money to take the club forward. Yet Terry who has the money, but doesn't have to spend it on the club as its his money ?
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Can anyone give me a connection to the Radio Sheffield connection?
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Go on then EfD what is your proposal please. Serious question what would you like to happen with the club realistically
One of two options. TB to throw in £2m to sign some decent players or sell to someone who wants to take the club forward and not stand still and stagnate.
Another £2m? In the next transfer window? Year on year?
You suggest the OR is an alternative. Sorry but there is no or.
And please don't give us the "Well if they don't put it up for sale how will we know?"
In all the time since TB, and Dick, have said, if someone came along to take the club forward, they would sell, nobody has other than JRs two failed attempts. They've said it numerous times at open events where press were present and reported it, so it's information that's in the public domain. JRs attempts courted plenty of attention in the press. Did anyone try to compete with JRs bids??
I'm sorry if that's a grim reality for you. The alternative is patience, trust and our own investment in Copps, DS, GB and Co to turn things around. Yes, we all have a choice so it's up to you.
The grim reality is. No investment=no decent signings=more boring football= attendances will drop, season ticket sales will drop = no longer sustainable.
But hey if your happy with that bully for you.
It will remain sustainable, at a level based on how much fans wish to commit.
Clearly the voard don't want to commit, so why not put the club up for sale ?
Read the rest of the thread. It's already been outlined for you.
No it hasn't, only more doubt has been cast on the current board
Clearly? More doubt?
Do you really think you should be the person telling others to re-read stuff when you're so contradictory yourself?
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Different username, same behaviour!?
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Different username, same behaviour!?
It's one way of pretending you haven't been told the truth several times before.
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A word of warning fellow forum members,
WantleyDragon appears to me to be an agent provocateur.
He knows very little about how things work on the forum/Board yet he is adamant the board should go.
Only been a member since 14/2/23
Only one main view point, Bramal et al out, a one trick pony.
My guess he has a connection with a party interested in a take over.
His objective is to cause unrest among supporters to force the boards hand.
I hope I am wrong but what I do know is that a friend of mine who came up against MR Bramal is that "there is only one winner" Long live this board.
Different username, same behaviour!?
It's one way of pretending you haven't been told the truth several times before.
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Am I getting confused here. This EcoPower company, are they anything to do with a larger green energy group. Or are they just a local waste and skip here company?
They are involved in various sectors (see below from their website), but I think the waste/skip business is the largest part
Plant Hire
Civil Engineering
Surfacing
Environmental
Rail
Waste
Fuels
The Eco-Power Foundation
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.
Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?
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We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.
What makes you think they are good owners?
The clubs plummeted under their sole ownership
They are honest people. They not trying to destroy the club from the inside. We are not in court facing winding up orders. They are trying to run the club frugally, too frugally in my opinion but they do it with the clubs best interests at heart.
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Sammy don’t worry there is “another” WUM about
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.
Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?
I will be negative over Club Doncaster, it should be the football team only, not working
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.
Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?
I will be negative over Club Doncaster, it should be the football team only, not working
If it was the football club only, it wouldn't make the savings from combining parts of the businesses. That is the entire point.
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We need investment but not at any cost, we have good owners, it could be much worse.you do know that one day Terry and the rest of the board will sell the club
Yep, be careful what you wish for. We all remember our last benefactor don’t we?
COYR
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If Club Doncaster carries on being the success it is - and I'm sure they're not intending to rest on their laurels, it could very well cover the slack of lower gates.
Maybe it would more sense to concentrate on Club Doncaster and forget about Rovers? Or are they doing that already?
When are the Club Doncaster nay-sayers going to grasp what Club Doncaster actually does? It's not bloody rocket science.
Where has anyone said anything negative about Club Doncaster in this thread?
I will be negative over Club Doncaster, it should be the football team only, not working
Ok. But please spell out why you think Club Doncaster is a negative thing?