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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: tommy toes on March 01, 2023, 10:01:59 pm
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It seems that in September 2020,when sick people were having to travel all over the place to get a Covid test, Hancock sent a courier round to Mogg Manor with a test for one of Moggs kids, which was then rushed off to the lab.
No doubt Mogg believes this was OK as he's far more worthy of such treatment than the rest of us peasants, it was par for the course in the 17th century.
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Hope all these whatsapps are send to the covid inquiry.
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We'd all do it.
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We'd all do it.
Would we?
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We really wouldn't.
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Hope all these whatsapps are send to the covid inquiry.
Lets just hope that all transgressors and the like who have a great deal of explaining to do are all dealt with after an inquiry, some like the Health secretary should be looking at some serious time.
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We'd all do it.
Would we? Of course we wouldn't BFYP because we are the underclass. But you seem to accept it of your betters.
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It seems that in September 2000,when sick people were having to travel all over the place to get a Covid test, Hancock sent a courier round to Mogg Manor with a test for one of Moggs kids, which was then rushed off to the lab.
No doubt Mogg believes this was OK as he's far more worthy of such treatment than the rest of us peasants, it was par for the course in the 17th century.
You might want to change that date Tommy.
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We really wouldn't.
We'd all do it.
Would we? Of course we wouldn't BFYP because we are the underclass. But you seem to accept it of your betters.
You'd put others before your kids, to me that takes some doing. I wouldn't, my kids always come first and I'd use any angle I could to help them frankly.
Obviously before its twisted it's not a one size fits all but if my kids were ill at that time, I could get a test and thought it would help I'd have done it without a thought.
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We'd all do it.
Would we?
No, never tested, not once.
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Underclass! f**ks sake!
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It seems that in September 2000,when sick people were having to travel all over the place to get a Covid test, Hancock sent a courier round to Mogg Manor with a test for one of Moggs kids, which was then rushed off to the lab.
No doubt Mogg believes this was OK as he's far more worthy of such treatment than the rest of us peasants, it was par for the course in the 17th century.
You might want to change that date Tommy.
Done hound.
Now what's your opinion on this, or are you too busy looking around to see if Starmer did the same.
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We really wouldn't.
We'd all do it.
Would we? Of course we wouldn't BFYP because we are the underclass. But you seem to accept it of your betters.
You'd put others before your kids, to me that takes some doing. I wouldn't, my kids always come first and I'd use any angle I could to help them frankly.
Obviously before its twisted it's not a one size fits all but if my kids were ill at that time, I could get a test and thought it would help I'd have done it without a thought.
I'd have faith in my judgement to not use my position to put myself in front of those I had charge.
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In this case, you take them to a testing centre, like I did with my 11 year old around the same time, and wait in line to get a test.
You know damn well what Rees-Mogg is doing in this case. He doesn't have a child whose life depends on getting a test delivered to his house. He considers himself above the standards that apply to the rest of us.
It's exactly the same attitude that took Cummings to Barnard Castle, Johnson and his staff to piss ups and Hancock into the knickers of his colleague.
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It seems that in September 2000,when sick people were having to travel all over the place to get a Covid test, Hancock sent a courier round to Mogg Manor with a test for one of Moggs kids, which was then rushed off to the lab.
No doubt Mogg believes this was OK as he's far more worthy of such treatment than the rest of us peasants, it was par for the course in the 17th century.
You might want to change that date Tommy.
Done hound.
Now what's your opinion on this, or are you too busy looking around to see if Starmer did the same.
Hi TT. Apologies here but I’m going to do what some others do and instead of answering I’m going to ask a question.
How many posters on here have private healthcare and have used it to jump the NHS queue?
I doubt that many, if any, will own up, especially the holier than thou team.
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Hound, don't let them wind you up. Honest to God they are not worth it.
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Mate, I’m not wound up at all.
I am genuinely curious and hope that I get a civilised response.
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:)
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Neighbours are reporting 'loud dance music coming from the Martha Millar household'
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Hope all these whatsapps are send to the covid inquiry.
Handcockup says they have all been handed over to the Inquiry
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Free country Glyn and I'm quite happy by my standards of parenting having a different view to yours (without the childish language).
I clearly wrongly assumed most people's thoughts would be their family before others, that's fine but I'm not apologising for doing so if I was in that position and had the chance.
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Free country Glyn and I'm quite happy by my standards of parenting having a different view to yours (without the childish language).
Yes it's a free country and you can have whatever low standards you like personally, but why do you think everybody else has the same low standards as you? That's what I object to.
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Free country Glyn and I'm quite happy by my standards of parenting having a different view to yours (without the childish language).
Yes it's a free country and you can have whatever low standards you like personally, but why do you think everybody else has the same low standards as you? That's what I object to.
Well, I assumed most people when faced with an ill child if they had concern would take any offer that they thought could help.
If that's low standards these days the world has gone mad.
All of those who wouldn't do that are you really saying you'd be able to say no if that was your kids?
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Free country Glyn and I'm quite happy by my standards of parenting having a different view to yours (without the childish language).
Yes it's a free country and you can have whatever low standards you like personally, but why do you think everybody else has the same low standards as you? That's what I object to.
Well, I assumed most people when faced with an ill child if they had concern would take any offer that they thought could help.
If that's low standards these days the world has gone mad.
All of those who wouldn't do that are you really saying you'd be able to say no if that was your kids?
Oh, so now you don't know that 'we would all do it'?
You should just have said 'I would have done it', and I'd have no objection to that. You are in absolutely no position to attribute your standards on to anyone else. Just as I - someone who has no children - am in no position to say what you would have done.
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By September 2020 it was pretty clear that children were at a very low risk of harm from Covid.
Sure they could infect those that were vulnerable but there's no evidence that applied to Rees-Mogg or his family
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Free country Glyn and I'm quite happy by my standards of parenting having a different view to yours (without the childish language).
Yes it's a free country and you can have whatever low standards you like personally, but why do you think everybody else has the same low standards as you? That's what I object to.
Well, I assumed most people when faced with an ill child if they had concern would take any offer that they thought could help.
If that's low standards these days the world has gone mad.
All of those who wouldn't do that are you really saying you'd be able to say no if that was your kids?
Oh, so now you don't know that 'we would all do it'?
You should just have said 'I would have done it', and I'd have no objection to that. You are in absolutely no position to attribute your standards on to anyone else. Just as I - someone who has no children - am in no position to say what you would have done.
I'm guessing that you both don't realise what an inane and absurd argument this is....?
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Free country Glyn and I'm quite happy by my standards of parenting having a different view to yours (without the childish language).
Yes it's a free country and you can have whatever low standards you like personally, but why do you think everybody else has the same low standards as you? That's what I object to.
Well, I assumed most people when faced with an ill child if they had concern would take any offer that they thought could help.
If that's low standards these days the world has gone mad.
All of those who wouldn't do that are you really saying you'd be able to say no if that was your kids?
Oh, so now you don't know that 'we would all do it'?
You should just have said 'I would have done it', and I'd have no objection to that. You are in absolutely no position to attribute your standards on to anyone else. Just as I - someone who has no children - am in no position to say what you would have done.
I'm guessing that you both don't realise what an inane and absurd argument this is....?
So I shouldn't have objected to being told that I would act just as selfishly as Mogg and BFYP?
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Glyn, why are so many of your responses to people written with an aggressive tone.
You could have worded your message so much differently.
Also, as someone who hasn’t been blessed with children of your own you probably can’t understand why bfyp said what he did.
In fact his post can’t have been addressed to such as you who has no children.
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Free country Glyn and I'm quite happy by my standards of parenting having a different view to yours (without the childish language).
Yes it's a free country and you can have whatever low standards you like personally, but why do you think everybody else has the same low standards as you? That's what I object to.
Well, I assumed most people when faced with an ill child if they had concern would take any offer that they thought could help.
If that's low standards these days the world has gone mad.
All of those who wouldn't do that are you really saying you'd be able to say no if that was your kids?
Oh, so now you don't know that 'we would all do it'?
You should just have said 'I would have done it', and I'd have no objection to that. You are in absolutely no position to attribute your standards on to anyone else. Just as I - someone who has no children - am in no position to say what you would have done.
I'm guessing that you both don't realise what an inane and absurd argument this is....?
So I shouldn't have objected to being told that I would act just as selfishly as Mogg and BFYP?
Perhaps consider rising above it....? - TBH it's petty handbag swinging stuff and doesn't show either of you in a good light.
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Glyn, why are so many of your responses to people written with an aggressive tone.
You could have worded your message so much differently.
Also, as someone who hasn’t been blessed with children of your own you probably can’t understand why bfyp said what he did.
In fact his post can’t have been addressed to such as you who has no children.
I wrote as someone deeply offended by the original post.
And it was addressed to everybody, regardless of their parental status, so it included myself.
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What was it about the OP that offended you so much?
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What was it about the OP that offended you so much?
I was talking aboout the BFYP's OP.
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You were really ‘deeply offended’ by Big’s post?
Wow.
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Oh dear.
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We'd all do it.
But that's the problem - we can't all do it. That's the nature of privilege.
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We'd all do it.
Who the hell are you to include me in your shitty behaviour?
Glyn, why are so many of your responses to people written with an aggressive tone.
You could have worded your message so much differently.
Also, as someone who hasn’t been blessed with children of your own you probably can’t understand why bfyp said what he did.
In fact his post can’t have been addressed to such as you who has no children.
I wrote as someone deeply offended by the original post.
And it was addressed to everybody, regardless of their parental status, so it included myself.
f** f.*** sake get a life you need to get out on on your bike more or are you "tyred" of it
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Mate, I’m not wound up at all.
I am genuinely curious and hope that I get a civilised response.
you will robably get the same response as I got when I asked this question
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=287074.msg1214663#msg1214663
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Mate, I’m not wound up at all.
I am genuinely curious and hope that I get a civilised response.
you will robably get the same response as I got when I asked this question
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=287074.msg1214663#msg1214663
I didn’t see that post of yours CLH.
So, to respond now, no I’m not a member of a golf club now.
I was from 1985 until 2012 but am now a member of a golf society.
No one answered my question below:
“Hi TT. Apologies here but I’m going to do what some others do and instead of answering I’m going to ask a question.
How many posters on here have private healthcare and have used it to jump the NHS queue?
I doubt that many, if any, will own up, especially the holier than thou team.”
But then again I didn’t expect a response.
I would be very surprised if no posters have healthcare insurance but probably they wouldn’t want to own up to it.
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Nobody answered it hound because its got sod all to do with the topic.
I asked you for your opinion on this, but as usual, on this or anything else, you haven't got one.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
So Mystic Mogg has private health insurance why didn't he use it?
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I’m not sure private health care would include sending couriers with Covid tests.
I might be wrong - I’m not privileged enough to have it.
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I’m not sure private health care would include sending couriers with Covid tests.
I might be wrong - I’m not privileged enough to have it.
Exactly so what has it got to do with the conversation, the t**t use his position for his own self.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Mogg is a t**t regardless of the incident in question
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Rees Mogg wasn't in a position to fast track a test for his child, by everyone else's rules.
Nobody was.
Yet the Labour voting Belton defends him.
Strange that.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Mogg is a t**t regardless of the incident in question
There can't be anyone who disagrees with that surely?
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Christ almighty have i rocked up on West Hampstead ladies B team forum?
Some on here don't deserve to be able to call themselves a "Yorkshireman"
I honestly cant get my breath, some people seem and talk like they were born offended, grow some bo**ocks.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
I’ve been out footballing Belton so thanks for pointing out why my post is relevant.
Maybe one or two who contested that perhaps didn’t understand why.
I would bet that any who are would fast track their kids for treatment if the need arose.
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Nobody answered it hound because its got sod all to do with the topic.
I asked you for your opinion on this, but as usual, on this or anything else, you haven't got one.
Tommy, again you are stretching the truth.
I have plenty of opinions, just read my posts.
To say otherwise is just desperation in trying to prove your position.
Odd that you never challenge some of your pals who actually never answer questions.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Mogg is a t**t regardless of the incident in question
Agreed.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Rees Mogg wasn't in a position to fast track a test for his child, by everyone else's rules.
Nobody was.
Yet the Labour voting Belton defends him.
Strange that.
I haven’t defended him. Just like I don’t defend (or attack) those who pay for private healthcare.
And if you are going to engage again Tommy (either directly or indirectly), then try it without the snide, childish comments. That’s two posts out of two from you on that score.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
People think Mogg is scum because he fast-tracked a covid test? Where have you seen that it was Mogg who arranged the test and it not being arranged by Hancock as a favour? Because I for one haven't seen that anywhere.
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I’m not sure what your point is here, Glyn.
Is it Rees-Mogg or Hancock’s actions that you are so deeply offended about being likened to?
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Because anyone - providing they have the money - can purchase private healthcare (its a perk of the job I currently do - I opted out).
Only Rees-Mogg could jump the queue for this covid test.
That's the nature of privilege. Doing things for your mates that the general public are not able to do. And he used it.
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Because anyone - providing they have the money - can purchase private healthcare (its a perk of the job I currently do - I opted out).
Only Rees-Mogg could jump the queue for this covid test.
That's the nature of privilege. Doing things for your mates that the general public are not able to do. And he used it.
You are privileged because you have the opportunity to have the perk of private healthcare that many employers don’t offer (mine included). Assuming that some of your work colleagues have taken up the offer, do you think less of them?
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Hound’s question is very relevant to the topic.
The general consensus from the usual suspects is that Rees-Mogg is scum because he was in a position to ‘fast-track’ a covid test for his child.
Some people are in a privileged position to pay for private health care to ‘fast track’ medical needs for their children.
How is one different to the other?
Because anyone - providing they have the money - can purchase private healthcare (its a perk of the job I currently do - I opted out).
Only Rees-Mogg could jump the queue for this covid test.
That's the nature of privilege. Doing things for your mates that the general public are not able to do. And he used it.
You are privileged because you have the opportunity to have the perk of private healthcare that many employers don’t offer (mine included). Assuming that some of your work colleagues have taken up the offer, do you think less of them?
Nope absolutely not. That's their choice (one of them has just had an operation he would have waited years for on the NHS). Nor do I care if other people, such as yourself (no idea if you do) have private healthcare so long as you pay your taxes. It's a free country.
But having private healthcare is not a privilege - its a choice. Rees-Mogg did not give the public a choice to do what he did - he used his position for privilege.
That's what I object to.
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It’s certainly not a choice for me. Those who have it, whether through financial status, employers or because they are personal friends with someone high up in a particular private health care are, by definition, privileged.
As was Rees-Mogg when he was in a position to get a fast-tracked Covid test for his child. If I thought my child would have benefited from a quick Covid test that wasn’t available to everyone, and I was in a privileged position for that to happen, then I would.
Paraphrasing Big - wouldn’t anyone (with children, of course)?
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It’s certainly not a choice for me. Those who have it, whether through financial status, employers or because they are personal friends with someone high up in a particular private health care are, by definition, privileged.
As was Rees-Mogg when he was in a position to get a fast-tracked Covid test for his child. If I thought my child would have benefited from a quick Covid test that wasn’t available to everyone, and I was in a privileged position for that to happen, then I would.
Paraphrasing Big - wouldn’t anyone (with children, of course)?
'I would have what I am denying to everyone else' (paraphrasing of course).
Well there you go. Bring back feudalism.
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I think there's a few people in this thread could benefit from engaging with what Rees-Mogg actually said on the issue.
From BBC
Responding on his GB News chat show on Wednesday, Mr Rees-Mogg said "one of my children needed a test and that put everybody into quarantine".
When he was informed his child's initial test had been lost, "it was raised with the department of health and they decided to send me a test to a member of my family", he said.
"So if I received special treatment, it wasn't because I had requested it, but actually it allowed a government minister to get back to work with a child who didn't have Covid in the first place," the former business secretary said.
Can we now put aside this touching stuff about the queues people would jump if their child had a (for them) minor infection?
Rees-Mogg, by his own words contacted the Dept for Health (Hancock) and Hancock had a test couriered round.
No mention of a primal urge to protect the fruit of his loins. (I know, I know...that mental image...)
Anyway. When my kid had COVID symptoms around the same time, when I first tried to book a test, I was informed by the online system that the nearest available slot was in Wrexham.
At that point I did think "I am so very important that to fast track my family out of isolation, I'll call Matt Hancock and get a test couriered round." But the t**t was probably getting his fingers and tops cos he never picked up the phone.
So I did what everyone else did. Waited till I could get a sensible test slot.
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By the way. That vital Cabinet Minister role of Rees-Mogg's? Leader of the House. In charge of HoC business.
Only...
The HoC wasn't sitting at that time as it was party conference season.
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This issue is quite simple, despite people trying to deflect it with nonsense about private health insurance.
Rees-Mogg used his position of privilege and contacts in a way that was not open to the rest of us.
Any of us... maybe excepting the Royal Family. (That's another argument to be had)
And he sees no problem with this because of who he is.
And this issue is a microcosm of what's wrong with society under this Tory government.
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It’s not deflection. It’s highlighting hypocrisy.
The tory government and the royal family were not the only ones who could, or did, take advantage.
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Please expand on that one BR
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Nice example of left v right mentalities in this thread.
The left think everyone is equal and no one should be jumping queues. Rules are for everyone.
The right think people should use their contacts to get them and their families in the best possible position, even if it requires ignoring general procedures.
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Donny, I’m assuming you are putting me in your ‘right’ category. Correct me if I’m wrong.
But, for clarity, my opinion of Rees-Mogg is that he is a slimy toad, who is as far away from someone who I would want to represent me as a politician as possible.
But what he did is no different to what many, many people would do, given the opportunity. Again, that doesn’t make it right, but unless the tory hating vocalists on here are all shining examples of perfection, then they are hypocrites.
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Because anyone - providing they have the money - can purchase private healthcare (its a perk of the job I currently do - I opted out).
Hey Wilts
I have private healthcare through work. It costs me very little so I accepted having it without giving it much thought to be honest.
Last year I developed such tremendous, continual pain in the back of my knee. I couldn't sit down, walking was painful, couldn't drive, was off work. Could only lie down on the sofa read and watch TV all day.
Initially I thought I'm not going to queue jump I'll go through the NHS (perhaps you have the same principles in your decision to opt out?). After an agonising couple of weeks travelling to and from hospital several times I a) hadn't seen a doctor b) hadn't been diagnosed and c) was told it would be a fortnight before I would see anybody else (a physio not a doctor).
At this point, exasperated and still in agony, I got an appointment through my private health insurance. I saw a doctor 3 days later who diagnosed me within 5 minutes and prescribed medication which relieved the majority of the pain within a week allowing me get back to living a normal(ish) life again.
I've subsequently had my condition treated, again privately given the wait time on the NHS was (I was still in considerable discomfort) unacceptably long.
It's easy to opt out of something like having private health insurance on principle when you're fit and healthy but it's quite different when you're in complete agony.
I'd recommend you opt into your work's scheme - you never know what's round the corner.
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the bloke must be really stupid to opt out
but the "opt out"claim is only heresay we have no proof.
on the Smog subject
have you ever heard a woman say she "would give her life for her child"
I heared that phrase a few years ago and have tested it on a few (women :) and they all agreed
so I googled it out of interest
Has anyone thought Mr Mogg might have been pressurised into it by the RULER OF THE HOUSE a.k.a. Mrs Mogg ??
as we know women will do anything for the benefit of their children. I have known examples of children being forced to learn a musical instrument to get a place in a "bette"r school. I's rwally ungreat when the child next door plays the trumpet INvoluntary*
*A trumpet voluntary is a voluntary – a musical composition for the organ – played using the trumpet stop
On the theme of organ players seriously they are very territorial and don't perform on others "patches"
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Donny, I’m assuming you are putting me in your ‘right’ category. Correct me if I’m wrong.
But, for clarity, my opinion of Rees-Mogg is that he is a slimy toad, who is as far away from someone who I would want to represent me as a politician as possible.
But what he did is no different to what many, many people would do, given the opportunity. Again, that doesn’t make it right, but unless the tory hating vocalists on here are all shining examples of perfection, then they are hypocrites.
Hi again belton. I have been out on a ten mile walk with a good friend of mine this morning and one of the things we spoke about was this Rees Mogg thing.
My friend likened him to a general of Hitler who would do anything that the leader told him to do.
I totally agree with him on that and with your slimy toad analagy but i can still understand why he might jump
the queue in the way he did.
Maybe CLH is correct with his thought that Mrs RM had the final say in this.
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It’s not deflection. It’s highlighting hypocrisy.
The tory government and the royal family were not the only ones who could, or did, take advantage.
Please expand on that one BR
C'mon BR don't be shy, who else in Govt, Royal family or anyone else who could or DID abuse their position to take advantage?
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I don’t know who ‘DID’, Raven. But I know human nature.
Perhaps I should have made it clear that it was my opinion.
Are criminals only guilty if they are caught?
Do YOU believe only the government or the royal family took advantage?
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As far as I know Smogg is the only one reported on, do you know of any others?. Surprised you used the word DID when you now say it's just your opinion
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No need to be surprised - I’ve explained that one for you.
Now how about answering my questions - I know you don’t like unanswered questions.
Don’t be shy.
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It’s not deflection. It’s highlighting hypocrisy.
The tory government and the royal family were not the only ones who could, or did, take advantage.
Please expand on that one BR
C'mon BR don't be shy, who else in Govt, Royal family or anyone else who could or DID abuse their position to take advantage?
I’m sure Gove did the same early on in the pandemic for his daughter
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No need to be surprised - I’ve explained that one for you.
Now how about answering my questions - I know you don’t like unanswered questions.
Don’t be shy.
Suggest you re read my post in response to your question.
Now back to my question to you, who DID ?
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I asked you if you believed anyone else took advantage. I’m asking for your opinion. Do you have one?
As I explained, it is my opinion that others would have done. No I didn’t put my opinion initially. You pulled me up on it and I rectified it.
Get over it.
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Nope, unless anyone is brought to task how can anyone have an ooinion about something they know nothing about.
I still don't understand how stating someone "did," is just an opinion, but that's just my opinion
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Raven.
Do you believe that there is life on other planets, out of our solar system?
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And on that, I'm out. You can have the last word
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Opinions are based on facts. Beliefs dont need facts.
As certain posters appear determined to prove.
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And on that, I'm out. You can have the last word
I see what you did there.
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Opinions are based on facts. Beliefs dont need facts.
As certain posters appear determined to prove.
I agree, Wilts.
Hence my comment about human nature.. it is a fact that some people are as pure and kind and honest as could be. It’s also a fact that some people are evil. It’s also a fact that everyone else in the human race is somewhere in between the two.
Based on those facts, it is my opinion that not only government officials and the royal family abused their positions during Covid, but others did too.
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Here's a tale about a man that couldn't call a mate to get him a break .........
''One minute, everything’s fine; you have a job, a girlfriend, a mortgage and a life. Then something happens that threatens all of it. You get a hernia. I’m a debt adviser and work with people who face life-destroying levels of debt, and this is one of the cases I’ve worked on over the years''
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/06/england-2023-welfare-system-debt-state-support
And the thing is, he's far from the only one.
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Here's a tale about a man that couldn't call a mate to get him a break .........
''One minute, everything’s fine; you have a job, a girlfriend, a mortgage and a life. Then something happens that threatens all of it. You get a hernia. I’m a debt adviser and work with people who face life-destroying levels of debt, and this is one of the cases I’ve worked on over the years''
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/06/england-2023-welfare-system-debt-state-support
And the thing is, he's far from the only one.
That’s a sad story and indicative of how broken this country is in. It shouldn’t be lost in a thread bickering about Rees-Mogg’s couriered Covid test.
I hope the next government (whoever that may be) can at least begin to improve things.
I don’t expect to see much improvement in my lifetime, though.