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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: dickos1 on March 07, 2023, 09:50:19 pm
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
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Sometimes you got to look to what kind of improvement I’d needed to be successful and then has the person in charge show enough to give confidence that it’s possible?
Answer is no. Schofield should go and an experienced manager be brought in. Even if that means he tells Copps/others things they don’t want to hear.
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Have you not been watching all season.. Hartlepool home and away, Carlisle away, Tranmere away, Colchester away, Mansfield away, now Harrogate at home... woeful.. lacklustre is not enough a word to describe how lacking in energy, fight, tackles and guile we are.. we didn't look like scoring if we played all night again..
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This is a measure of how bad things are when Dickos is annoyed with the performance.
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Aside from the sugar rush of all those late finishes early in season, when have we actually played well?
Grimsby away definitely. Anything else?
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It has to be sackable if even Dickos has turned!
The manager is a fraud.
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
fingers crossed
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Have you not been watching all season.. Hartlepool home and away, Carlisle away, Tranmere away, Colchester away, Mansfield away, now Harrogate at home... woeful.. lacklustre is not enough a word to describe how lacking in energy, fight, tackles and guile we are.. we didn't look like scoring if we played all night again..
Yes I’ve been watching and nothing has come close to how bad that was tonight
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That Colchester game was probably worse. Just.
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Aside from the sugar rush of all those late finishes early in season, when have we actually played well?
Grimsby away definitely. Anything else?
First half at Orient was ok. Then rovers reverted to type.
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Not sure we had a shot on goal at Orient? It was solid but definitely not astounding.
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And it was supposed to be “full throttle”!
I’m even doubting the wisdom of Copps, if he was responsible for the appointment.
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The more I think about it the more I’m ok if we sack DS. Normally I’d say it’s too soon and we aren’t a sacking club. But he’s not shown any adaptability. He has one idea which isn’t working. Therefore he doesn’t need more time. He’s shown us what he’s capable of and it’s not enough.
If he’s not willing to change then it’s a easy decision
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Don't be so negative Dickos pal. Win the next 10 games and we will easy make the playoffs.
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
He won't be sacked, unless it's copps that is made to do it.
The board are incompetent, but will never admit it by sacking him. They will throw copps under the bus before they take any responsibility.
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It’s dreadful but we are not going to sack Schofield. Whether they properly back him in the summer is another question though.
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January 2021- Omar Bogle 18 months
January 2022- Kieran Agard 18 months
January 2023- Caolan Lavery 18 months
Absolutely setting fire to money and making the same mistakes over and over again.
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Tonight is up there with the worst performance at home since we’ve been at that stadium. I really can’t think of many worse. The rotherham hammerings last season weren’t great but at least they were a good team.
That was completely indefensible. What have we become?
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And it was supposed to be “full throttle”!
I’m even doubting the wisdom of Copps, if he was responsible for the appointment.
I doubted copps’ appointment from the off. Although I doubt he was appointed. I suspect he engineered the job for himself. Board in his back pocket and vice Versa.
Club legend as player, but it’s not looking rosy so far as HOF is it ?
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Posted this last month. Since Marquis left, look at the litany of clearly unsuitable replacements. Rakish, Kwame, Cukur, Dodoo, Hiwula, Sterling, Tulloch, Bogle, Agard, you could go on. Some cheap, some less so. All of them you knew would not fill his boots. We didn’t invest in a replacement and we’ve paid many times over for sub optimal replacements.
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Tonight is up there with the worst performance at home since we’ve been at that stadium. I really can’t think of many worse. The rotherham hammerings last season weren’t great but at least they were a good team.
That was completely indefensible. What have we become?
The 4-0 pasting at Boltons hands was pretty dire if I recall.
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Posted this last month. Since Marquis left, look at the litany of clearly unsuitable replacements. Rakish, Kwame, Cukur, Dodoo, Hiwula, Sterling, Tulloch, Bogle, Agard, you could go on. Some cheap, some less so. All of them you knew would not fill his boots. We didn’t invest in a replacement and we’ve paid many times over for sub optimal replacements.
Oh god, I’d forgotten about cukur. It’s like a wound has been re opened.
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I feel like I’ve been water boarded for 90 mins
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Aside from the sugar rush of all those late finishes early in season, when have we actually played well?
Grimsby away definitely. Anything else?
Yes I thought we were excellent at home to Tranmere, for 3 mins, around the hour mark.
Apart from that erm no.
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Unacceptable performance. The board, Copps, whoever need to grasp the nettle & bring in a manager who actually know the f--- what they're doing, but they won't. The club's downward spiral is gathering momentum & has not finished yet. Really fear for next season after that absolute embarrassment of a performance.
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We're poor or average in all positions on the pitch. I doubt a visiting fan would take any of ours over theirs when they watch us play. As said before how many of our recent players who left went to higher level clubs? And, where will most of the current lot end up if released?
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We're poor or average in all positions on the pitch. I doubt a visiting fan would take any of ours over theirs when they watch us play. As said before how many of our recent players who left went to higher level clubs? And, where will most of the current lot end up if released?
Dan Gardner straight to a bottom half conference team.
Griffiths loaned out to one.
Dodoo unemployed.
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Hard to disagree with anything everyone has said. Absolutely woeful and it feels like we've been saying this for 2 Years now.
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Don't be so negative Dickos pal. Win the next 10 games and we will easy make the playoffs.
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The more I think about it the more I’m ok if we sack DS. Normally I’d say it’s too soon and we aren’t a sacking club. But he’s not shown any adaptability. He has one idea which isn’t working. Therefore he doesn’t need more time. He’s shown us what he’s capable of and it’s not enough.
If he’s not willing to change then it’s a easy decision
Couldn’t agree with this any more! He needs to show he has plan B,C etc
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Have you not been watching all season.. Hartlepool home and away, Carlisle away, Tranmere away, Colchester away, Mansfield away, now Harrogate at home... woeful.. lacklustre is not enough a word to describe how lacking in energy, fight, tackles and guile we are.. we didn't look like scoring if we played all night again..
You're right about the abject lack of physicality from us in those matches. And in others. Barrow away comes to mind.
No manager will ever deliberately put out a side telling them to be as physically weak as we are week after week.
When it happens so regularly, you have to conclude that the players just don't have the fight in them.
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I’m gobsmacked at the tactics, it was obvious after 20 mins it wasn’t working and needed a change, what does he do for his first substitution? Make a like for like change, f**king genius Danny! 71 minutes before we change formation! It looks to me like the players are not playing for him anymore!
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Have you not been watching all season.. Hartlepool home and away, Carlisle away, Tranmere away, Colchester away, Mansfield away, now Harrogate at home... woeful.. lacklustre is not enough a word to describe how lacking in energy, fight, tackles and guile we are.. we didn't look like scoring if we played all night again..
You're right about the abject lack of physicality from us in those matches. And in others. Barrow away comes to mind.
No manager will ever deliberately put out a side telling them to be as physically weak as we are week after week.
When it happens so regularly, you have to conclude that the players just don't have the fight in them.
We don’t have any athletic midfielders or forwards though do we? Rowe maybe, but he’s always playing injured so never 100%.
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:turd:If that's full throttle god help us. Going back to local football on Saturday.
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Is it just me that thinks Barlow will get another year's contract in the summer just got a feeling hope I'm wrong
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Can only describe tonight as clueless from Schofield aided by abysmal performances from Nelson and Brown.
Dread to think what would be aimed at Williams if he had a game like that.
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Have you not been watching all season.. Hartlepool home and away, Carlisle away, Tranmere away, Colchester away, Mansfield away, now Harrogate at home... woeful.. lacklustre is not enough a word to describe how lacking in energy, fight, tackles and guile we are.. we didn't look like scoring if we played all night again..
You're right about the abject lack of physicality from us in those matches. And in others. Barrow away comes to mind.
No manager will ever deliberately put out a side telling them to be as physically weak as we are week after week.
When it happens so regularly, you have to conclude that the players just don't have the fight in them.
Ben Close a prime example of having no fight. Hid from the ball all game when it’s his job to receive it. Pathetic.
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Have you not been watching all season.. Hartlepool home and away, Carlisle away, Tranmere away, Colchester away, Mansfield away, now Harrogate at home... woeful.. lacklustre is not enough a word to describe how lacking in energy, fight, tackles and guile we are.. we didn't look like scoring if we played all night again..
You're right about the abject lack of physicality from us in those matches. And in others. Barrow away comes to mind.
No manager will ever deliberately put out a side telling them to be as physically weak as we are week after week.
When it happens so regularly, you have to conclude that the players just don't have the fight in them.
We don’t have any athletic midfielders or forwards though do we? Rowe maybe, but he’s always playing injured so never 100%.
Absolutely. That's my point. We haven't an ounce of competitive athleticism in the squad.
No point complaining about selection or tactics. The players are rank.
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The more I think about it the more I’m ok if we sack DS. Normally I’d say it’s too soon and we aren’t a sacking club. But he’s not shown any adaptability. He has one idea which isn’t working. Therefore he doesn’t need more time. He’s shown us what he’s capable of and it’s not enough.
If he’s not willing to change then it’s a easy decision
Couldn’t agree with this any more! He needs to show he has plan B,C etc
There is no plan B or C.
We were abject from start to finish today.
Their keeper had one shot to save tonight, admittedly there were the three successive shots blocked by defenders late on which were all on target but otherwise we never looked like scoring.
You could see in the second half that Harrogate realised they could win the game.
They were quick to break and even when they made their substitutions the player coming off actually ran off when normally the away players take ages to go off the pitch.
I always felt that they might Nick a goal.
Just a word on the attendance too, officially 5777 but in my opinion no more than 5000 in the ground.
I hadn’t realised that we are at home again on Saturday so that will be another bloody Saturday ruined.
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The more I think about it the more I’m ok if we sack DS. Normally I’d say it’s too soon and we aren’t a sacking club. But he’s not shown any adaptability. He has one idea which isn’t working. Therefore he doesn’t need more time. He’s shown us what he’s capable of and it’s not enough.
If he’s not willing to change then it’s a easy decision
Couldn’t agree with this any more! He needs to show he has plan B,C etc
There is no plan B or C.
We were abject from start to finish today.
Their keeper had one shot to save tonight, admittedly there were the three successive shots blocked by defenders late on which were all on target but otherwise we never looked like scoring.
You could see in the second half that Harrogate realised they could win the game.
They were quick to break and even when they made their substitutions the player coming off actually ran off when normally the away players take ages to go off the pitch.
I always felt that they might Nick a goal.
Just a word on the attendance too, officially 5777 but in my opinion no more than 5000 in the ground.
I hadn’t realised that we are at home again on Saturday so that will be another bloody Saturday ruined.
It’s looking like divine intervention from the weather gods hound
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The more I think about it the more I’m ok if we sack DS. Normally I’d say it’s too soon and we aren’t a sacking club. But he’s not shown any adaptability. He has one idea which isn’t working. Therefore he doesn’t need more time. He’s shown us what he’s capable of and it’s not enough.
If he’s not willing to change then it’s a easy decision
Couldn’t agree with this any more! He needs to show he has plan B,C etc
There is no plan B or C.
We were abject from start to finish today.
Their keeper had one shot to save tonight, admittedly there were the three successive shots blocked by defenders late on which were all on target but otherwise we never looked like scoring.
You could see in the second half that Harrogate realised they could win the game.
They were quick to break and even when they made their substitutions the player coming off actually ran off when normally the away players take ages to go off the pitch.
I always felt that they might Nick a goal.
Just a word on the attendance too, officially 5777 but in my opinion no more than 5000 in the ground.
I hadn’t realised that we are at home again on Saturday so that will be another bloody Saturday ruined.
A lot of sth staying away.
Mid week.
Freezing cold.
Shit football.
It’s not appealing.
And onto sat. Wimbledon have lost three and drawn three in their last six. I’m going for an away win.
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Can only describe tonight as clueless from Schofield aided by abysmal performances from Nelson and Brown.
Dread to think what would be aimed at Williams if he had a game like that.
I was going to mention that, about Nelson.
His passing tonight was awful and he was incredibly slow to move the ball.
Someone mentioned on here recently that we have been better since RSW was left out of the team but the points picked up, goals conceded and goals scored in those games hardly back it up.
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Well played Harrogate Town.
For a limited side they approached the game in exactly the right way. They played with just the right balance of discipline and adventure.
Thought their number 10 had a very good game indeed.
I enjoyed watching them play and they thoroughly deserved their victory.
In contrast the least said about their abject opponents the better.
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I’m as positive as they come but that performance was an absolute disgrace, the worst I’ve seen for a very long time.
Lavery was so isolated it was untrue, and then we bring miller on to do exactly the same, play upfront 20 yards ahead of the rest of our players.
They were far better than us and they’re f**king harrogate town.
That performance could be a sackable offence
Have you not been watching all season.. Hartlepool home and away, Carlisle away, Tranmere away, Colchester away, Mansfield away, now Harrogate at home... woeful.. lacklustre is not enough a word to describe how lacking in energy, fight, tackles and guile we are.. we didn't look like scoring if we played all night again..
You're right about the abject lack of physicality from us in those matches. And in others. Barrow away comes to mind.
No manager will ever deliberately put out a side telling them to be as physically weak as we are week after week.
When it happens so regularly, you have to conclude that the players just don't have the fight in them.
We don’t have any athletic midfielders or forwards though do we? Rowe maybe, but he’s always playing injured so never 100%.
I’d argue Lakin, is our most athletic player, biggins and close don’t work.
Close is class but he’s playing every game in 2nd gear, never breaks into a sweat.
He’s not what you need in league 2,
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Can only describe tonight as clueless from Schofield aided by abysmal performances from Nelson and Brown.
Dread to think what would be aimed at Williams if he had a game like that.
I was going to mention that, about Nelson.
His passing tonight was awful and he was incredibly slow to move the ball.
Someone mentioned on here recently that we have been better since RSW was left out of the team but the points picked up, goals conceded and goals scored in those games hardly back it up.
I think you have let Ben Close get away lightly. Another waste of time and money.
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That was embarrassing tonight.
You could see early on Harrogate were expecting a tough game and as the game wore on they could see that we were not very good and their confidence grew. By the 60th minute they could see that they had a chance to win it and they duly went on to do just that.
Completely inept tactical nouse from our head coach. It would seem he is totally out of his depth. Either that or he is a very stupid, stubborn and blinkered. Not sure which it is. Starting to think it’s both.
He has got 12 games now to prove he should be still in the job next season.
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Have you ever noticed there seems to be very little regard for the fans from Danny. No mention tonight again of letting the supporters down or the spectacle they are forced to watch. More of a concern that the game was "in the balance" how long until we are playing and losing to the likes of Kings Lynn at home... Oh sorry we've already done that this season (with them keeping a clean sheet) so for anyone thinking this is a NEW low it's not. It's just another low.
Have some respect for these fans Danny.
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That was embarrassing tonight.
You could see early on Harrogate were expecting a tough game and as the game wore on they could see that we were not very good and their confidence grew. By the 60th minute they could see that they had a chance to win it and they duly went on to do just that.
Completely inept tactical nouse from our head coach. It would seem he is totally out of his depth. Either that or he is a very stupid, stubborn and blinkered. Not sure which it is. Starting to think it’s both.
He has got 12 games now to prove he should be still in the job next season.
I’d rather give those 12 games to an experienced coach to look at the squad, cull the deadwood and asses what he needs for next season, schofield was the wrong appointment, I said that at the time and now the proof is in the pudding
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Have you ever noticed there seems to be very little regard for the fans from Danny. No mention tonight again of letting the supporters down or the spectacle they are forced to watch. More of a concern that the game was "in the balance" how long until we are playing and losing to the likes of Kings Lynn at home... Oh sorry we've already done that this season (with them keeping a clean sheet) so for anyone thinking this is a NEW low it's not. It's just another low.
Have some respect for these fans Danny.
The main mighty Kings Lynn who outplayed us in the FA Cup lost at home to Farsley tonight.
In fact, Farsley have done the double over them.
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That was embarrassing tonight.
You could see early on Harrogate were expecting a tough game and as the game wore on they could see that we were not very good and their confidence grew. By the 60th minute they could see that they had a chance to win it and they duly went on to do just that.
Completely inept tactical nouse from our head coach. It would seem he is totally out of his depth. Either that or he is a very stupid, stubborn and blinkered. Not sure which it is. Starting to think it’s both.
He has got 12 games now to prove he should be still in the job next season.
I’d rather give those 12 games to an experienced coach to look at the squad, cull the deadwood and asses what he needs for next season, schofield was the wrong appointment, I said that at the time and now the proof is in the pudding
Schofield is doing that.
He's dispensed with Clayton, Long, Agard, Griffiths and apparently Williams. What we were left with tonight is more or less the best of what he inherited and a few moderately reasonable loan signings.
That's the size of the task that ANY manager would face, so bleeding awful has our choice of signings been for the past 2 years. No manager would be able to turn this squad into a genuine promotion challenging one.
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Have you ever noticed there seems to be very little regard for the fans from Danny. No mention tonight again of letting the supporters down or the spectacle they are forced to watch. More of a concern that the game was "in the balance" how long until we are playing and losing to the likes of Kings Lynn at home... Oh sorry we've already done that this season (with them keeping a clean sheet) so for anyone thinking this is a NEW low it's not. It's just another low.
Have some respect for these fans Danny.
Danny's a Donny lad but has never had any connection, interest or regard for the Rovers, like the majority of the Borough, unfortunately.
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5700, I thought it was more like 4000 at best. It is so hard to watch... fair play to Harrogate but that was woeful, Schofield needs to look at himself. Its hard to see it getting any better anytime soon.