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Title: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Branton Rover on March 12, 2023, 01:50:47 pm
He showed yesterday that he shouldn’t be let go if his contract is reaching its end. I thought he was outstanding because he was deployed in a new role & it paid off - Charlie is a 2 footed player which is unusual in itself because although naturally a right footer he’s comfortable using his left peg to slot in beautifully at left wing back. He reminded me of David Mulligan who was a two footed fullback equally adept on either flank.

I have no problem with Joe Olowu winning man of the match he was terrific but for me considering Charlie played in a new position and handled it great he was my man of the match. Well done Charlie we have now filled the problem left wing back position with Maxwell’s injury.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: monkeytennis on March 12, 2023, 01:54:25 pm
Yes I thought he did very well, bags of energy, plenty of resilience. Joe was massive but then he usually is.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: ravenrover on March 12, 2023, 02:16:56 pm
Charlie MoM for me yesterday
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 12, 2023, 02:29:53 pm
MoM for me too.

He gives glimpses of there being a very good player inside, but he's never kept up the standard consistently. If he could play like yesterday regularly, we'd have a very good player.

Superb cross for the first goal by the way.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Chris Black come back on March 12, 2023, 02:37:55 pm
Out of contract in two months.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 12, 2023, 02:54:19 pm
Out of contract in two months.

Tough one.

Has he deserved a new contract on average performances over the last 2 years? Not really close.

Would be deserve a new contract if he could maintain yesterday's standard? 100%.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Donnywolf on March 12, 2023, 02:59:54 pm
Didn't warrant a Yellow Card either imo

Maxwell was shouting.no.no Ref but was he right
 
Maxwell that is cos Ref was rarely right
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: drfchound on March 12, 2023, 03:06:23 pm
He showed yesterday that he shouldn’t be let go if his contract is reaching its end. I thought he was outstanding because he was deployed in a new role & it paid off - Charlie is a 2 footed player which is unusual in itself because although naturally a right footer he’s comfortable using his left peg to slot in beautifully at left wing back. He reminded me of David Mulligan who was a two footed fullback equally adept on either flank.

I have no problem with Joe Olowu winning man of the match he was terrific but for me considering Charlie played in a new position and handled it great he was my man of the match. Well done Charlie we have now filled the problem left wing back position with Maxwell’s injury.

My thoughts exactly.
We were saying much the same during the game.
He has very good skills with the ball.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Super Colin Cramb on March 12, 2023, 03:10:49 pm
My MoM too, should keep his place for next Saturday.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: ncRover on March 12, 2023, 03:13:51 pm
I didn’t realise he was 2 footed. He’s got decent athleticism too.

If we persist with wing backs he could be useful cover for 2 positions on either side.

That way we can have 3 wing backs in the squad rather than 4.

Let’s see if he can keep up the consistency.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: roversdude on March 12, 2023, 05:16:00 pm
Yeah I had him down as MOTM too, thought he was excellent yesterday. It’s a strange scenario as he needs games to get some consistency but just when you think he has it he is out of the team
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: danumdon on March 12, 2023, 05:25:43 pm
Yeah I had him down as MOTM too, thought he was excellent yesterday. It’s a strange scenario as he needs games to get some consistency but just when you think he has it he is out of the team

Spot on assessment. If he gets some regular gametime i think he'd be afirst team regular, either side of the pitch.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: scawsby steve on March 12, 2023, 05:38:35 pm
I thought he had a great game against Carlisle; particularly in the build up to that excellent second goal.

I just don't understand why this team can perform like they did that day, and be so terrible in most of the other games.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Campsall rover on March 12, 2023, 05:48:47 pm
I thought he had a great game against Carlisle; particularly in the build up to that excellent second goal.

I just don't understand why this team can perform like they did that day, and be so terrible in most of the other games.
We did play well SS and don’t want to take anything away from from how well we performed that day but I honestly think Carlisle had a seriously off day. They didn’t turn up.
Since that match their form has been league winners form. Only really bad off day since then, 0-4 at home to was it Mansfield or Salford can’t remember.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Bailey Vickerage on March 12, 2023, 06:01:04 pm
Excellent yesterday and was my MOTM, just ahead of Close. Was performing well when he got a run of games at RWB earlier on in the season aswell. I’d defo be offering him a new deal.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: albie on March 12, 2023, 07:17:58 pm
If played in a more advanced position, he will get goals because he has a decent shot on him.

We saw that when he was on loan to Maidstone, but Rovers have not really used him properly.

Given we are goal shy, I think he deserves the chance to make his case until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Bentley Bullet on March 12, 2023, 08:44:08 pm
I think he's a confidence player. That's why his form is up and down. Saturday's game should have done his confidence a world of good. Watch out for a good performance this Saturday.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: roversdude on March 12, 2023, 09:42:06 pm
I’d play him in place of Brown when Maxwell is fit
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: bpoolrover on March 13, 2023, 12:25:48 am
Whike I thought he played well yesterday you can't keep a player because of the odd good performance
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 13, 2023, 06:04:30 am
He is ideal to play in a 4-5-1 formation, in a wide left or right role, because he gives you the attacking side, plus tracking back to cover the full back.
He hasn’t done enough to get another contract so far. We can’t have another couple of seasons like this. Dire last season and heavily underachieving this season. We need improvement in all areas.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: NickDRFC on March 13, 2023, 06:45:27 am
I’d play him in place of Brown when Maxwell is fit

I’ve been pretty disappointed in Brown. We had all this fanfare that losing Knoyle didn’t matter as we were getting someone far better, but aside from a bit of early promise I don’t think that’s been the case at all.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: 5minstogo on March 13, 2023, 07:18:21 am
Agree on Brown, gets forward quickly but ambles back. I've been very disappointed in him.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: roversdude on March 13, 2023, 07:39:26 am
Totally agree Brown had a good start with us but I have never seen anyone jog back so slowly
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Alan Southstand on March 13, 2023, 07:41:19 am
I have said many times previously, when people were saying he’s our stand-in right back, that he was playing very well at left midfield when he went on loan to Maidstone. He was never a right back and more a wing back or left midfielder. Played well at Thorne Colliery in a similar position, before he got injured, back in pre-season.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Chris Black come back on March 13, 2023, 09:13:06 am
Totally agree Brown had a good start with us but I have never seen anyone jog back so slowly

Ben Close?
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on March 13, 2023, 10:00:21 am
Our defence has been much more solid with Brown in there compared to Knoyle.  We've conceded 7 goals in 9 games that's pretty good.  Scoring them has been our issue.

If we're going with proper wing backs it shouldn't necessarily be there job to always be at the defensive line they should be pushed far up the pitch.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Chris Black come back on March 13, 2023, 12:18:45 pm
Thought Brown made a great start for us.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: EasyforDennis on March 13, 2023, 02:33:35 pm
He's a bit of a conundrum is Seaman, my MOTM on Saturday but those performances are few and far between. Depending on his wage I would be inclined to offer him a deal
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Spud on March 13, 2023, 04:02:04 pm
Totally agree Brown had a good start with us but I have never seen anyone jog back so slowly

Ben Close?

I had to laugh on Saturday, he put an actual tackle in, I thought ey up ? Next thing two plod came walking down the west stand towards the pitch, I wonder who called them?
Tbf he had one of his better games I thought.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: danumdon on March 13, 2023, 04:17:14 pm
He's a bit of a conundrum is Seaman, my MOTM on Saturday but those performances are few and far between. Depending on his wage I would be inclined to offer him a deal

I think the jury is still out on Seamen if for nothing more than the guy has had very little opportunity to show us his worth. At the start of the season he was played in about three or four different positions and then got injured, his long layoff coincided with our decent start to the season and he was virtually forgot about after that. It seemed his injury took an age to get over and to be honest he looked like he was carrying a few extra ponds even before it.

Now he's had a chance to get in the team with a bit of luck he can cement a place and show us his worth, i think we have seen nowhere near his value so far at Rovers and i would be inclined to offer a contract extension, subject to financial limitations, ect.

With some sort of extended run i think he could get match fit and be a useful addition to us.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Branton Rover on March 13, 2023, 04:21:40 pm
Considering we don’t have a fullback on our books I would be looking to extend he’s young & still developing.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 13, 2023, 04:51:21 pm
He has potential, always has had since he’s been with us. He needs games to build confidence. Better as a winger rather than full back, useful that he can play there though.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Bessie Red on March 13, 2023, 04:52:02 pm
He definitely looked on Saturday as though he was prepared to take his chance to impress and he certainly did for me. I believe we should offer him an extension to his contract as he probably won't be on a massive wage and he could turn out to be a useful utility player for us with him being genuinely two footed.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: drfchound on March 13, 2023, 06:36:25 pm
He's a bit of a conundrum is Seaman, my MOTM on Saturday but those performances are few and far between. Depending on his wage I would be inclined to offer him a deal

To be fair mate he hadn’t had many chances in the first team.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Bailey Vickerage on March 13, 2023, 10:49:56 pm
Also done a very good job in midfield at times this season.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: elmsallrover on March 14, 2023, 01:47:08 pm
Get rid  been here 2 years and still cannot hold down a first team place plus as issues with injurys
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Branton Rover on March 15, 2023, 08:29:38 am
Versatile players are invaluable to a club like ours - especially considering we don’t have a natural fullback on our books - if he gets a new contract, Schofield needs to throw the gauntlet down to him to challenge him to become the fullback/wingback starter - Charlie is young and can develop potentially into a holding midfielder in time.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: steve@dcfd on March 15, 2023, 09:06:19 am
The wing back role he’s ok but as a defender as yet he’s not good enough and have not seen it in the time here’s been here.
When he was on loan he never played fullback he was a right or left midfield player.
So if we continue to play with wingbacks he is cover. But we would have to sign a permanent right wing back aswell.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Bessie Red on March 15, 2023, 02:19:20 pm
The wing back role he’s ok but as a defender as yet he’s not good enough and have not seen it in the time here’s been here.
When he was on loan he never played fullback he was a right or left midfield player.
So if we continue to play with wingbacks he is cover. But we would have to sign a permanent right wing back aswell.
Probably be signing James Brown, will that make you feel good?
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: scawsby steve on March 15, 2023, 04:30:12 pm
The wing back role he’s ok but as a defender as yet he’s not good enough and have not seen it in the time here’s been here.
When he was on loan he never played fullback he was a right or left midfield player.
So if we continue to play with wingbacks he is cover. But we would have to sign a permanent right wing back aswell.
Probably be signing James Brown, will that make you feel good?

Yes, because Charlie's only young, and football's a man's, man's world.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: roversdude on March 15, 2023, 05:58:06 pm
Maxwell is a full back - really think we’re missing him
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Bessie Red on March 15, 2023, 07:15:54 pm
Maxwell is a full back - really think we’re missing him

And his silver hammer!
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on March 17, 2023, 09:13:37 am
Maxwell is a full back - really think we’re missing him

And his silver hammer!
Strawberry Schofield's Forever.
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: drfc1951 on March 17, 2023, 10:20:47 am
Maxwell is a full back - really think we’re missing him

And his silver hammer!
Strawberry Schofield's Forever.
On Dave Penny Lane
Title: Re: Charlie Seaman
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on March 17, 2023, 09:20:55 pm
Maxwell is a full back - really think we’re missing him

And his silver hammer!
Strawberry Schofield's Forever.
On Dave Penny Lane
Degruchy in the Sky with Diamonds!