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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on March 19, 2023, 08:32:58 am
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In my opinion, YES, he’s the person that ultimatly gives the nod on player recruitment based on finance, he’s running the club down, it’s time to go, we just can’t stomach this decline anymore, it’s becoming terminal and possibly irreversible, something has to give, start at the top, and then recruit an experienced head coach, not a novice with 9 senior games on his CV
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Yes, & a few others.
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I get the impression that Chairman David Blunt is safe as long as Terry Bramall is here.
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Yes. Should have gone a few years ago.
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Yes think he’s either heavily involved in the club’s decisions and therefore has shown plenty of incompetence or he’s just not doing anything and guilty of neglect. Either way it’s happened on his watch.
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Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.
Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.
The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.
Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.
Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.
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Blunt is the chairman, who is ultimately responsible for the vision, culture and direction of the club.
He 100% needs to go !!!
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The Chairman won’t go until Mr Bramell sells the club. They set on Copps as HOF to divert the football flack away from them.
Yet Mr Blunt said we would Bounce Back Decisively at the beginning of the season with what evidence did he have to make that statement. He kept on Rookie GMC then sacked him he appointed a Rookie HOF in Copps who recommended DS another Rookie manager.
Yes Mr Blunt and Mr Baldwin are keeping the club on a stable footing but is there sufficient resources to give our HOF and manager a chance to achieve his statement.
Looking what the decision making as done. We’ve won 15 games and lost 16 scored 39 goals and conceded 49 GD of -10 the 17th worst in the league. This is not a team or squad or management structure or hierarchy that’s going to Bounce Back Decisively at any time. Decision making throughout the club as been poor.
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Bounce back decisively is yet more spin akin to 5 year plan to the championship. For me Blunt is just Bramalls hatchet man doing his dirty work as Bramall.isant interest. From the horses mouth 'every day we can win in the community'.. were not fans of a charity we want to see consistent success on the pitch and have hope of good performances and achievements on the pitch too!
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You all know he has shares in the club.
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Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.
Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.
The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.
Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.
Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.
Gosh German you would think we were sitting in 12 th in the Championship not in the Bottom Division. Blunt by name Blunt by nature. I ward he got £28 million when Keepmoat was sold..same funds as John Ryan. Been looking at him on companies house, not much of a business mam several folded companies since he walked out of the Keepmoat company. I think Terry has given him this job due to their history. Keepmoat was Bramhall and Ogdens and did very nicely out of local social housing contracts (cough cough) it was sold to some folks for a vastly overrated price and due to the financial collapse the Social housing schemes dried up and it went down the pan.
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Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.
Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.
The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.
Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.
Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.
Well Copps only started as HoF this summer. So who was in charge of football then if not blunt?
Maybe that answers why we are here. Everyone sees there job as making money not getting 3pts
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Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.
Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.
The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.
Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.
Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.
One day you will wake up, you're so deluded.
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Him and Gavin Baldwin, consistently make money for the club, they run the business side of things.
Coppinger and the previous managers run the football side of things.
The business men give the football men money to spend on teams, if they spend it disastrously like Richie Wellens did. You can't blame the chairman.
Blunt should stay while he's doing his job of making money.
Alot of rovers fans have it in for him because he's not john ryan, being interviewed on the radio and cheerleading.
One day you will wake up, you're so deluded.
Making money doesnt make you brilliant at your job. We need bright, new ideas to reconnect the supporters with the club. If they run the business side of things then why are we so incompetent in the catering at the stadium? Paying gourmet prices for food you wouldnt serve to Hitler. The club as a whole is failing miserably top to bottom. There isnt just the chairman its literally every single on of them
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Blunt to go for me, worrying thing is we've been told this will never happen white Terry is here. I appreciate the club Doncaster side but the football side is a shambles. Watching meet the owners told me a lot, Blunt did not want to be there.
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Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.
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Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.
That’s just made up nonsense.
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Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.
That’s just made up nonsense.
Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?
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Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.
That’s just made up nonsense.
Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?
You made the statement, you must have some knowledge of their relationship for you to say that, so tell us!
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Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.
That’s just made up nonsense.
Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?
You made the statement, you must have some knowledge of their relationship for you to say that, so tell us!
Blunt was TB's henchman at Keepmoat before they got involved with DRFC. He is still TB's henchman at DRFC.
Are you going to back up your statement as to why it is made up nonsense?
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Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings. Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?
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Blunt is just a puppet with TB pulling the strings.
That’s just made up nonsense.
Really? Would you like to enlighten us why it is nonsense?
You made the statement, you must have some knowledge of their relationship for you to say that, so tell us!
Blunt was TB's henchman at Keepmoat before they got involved with DRFC. He is still TB's henchman at DRFC.
Are you going to back up your statement as to why it is made up nonsense?
That’s it is it? That’s your reason for the statement you made? Care to define how DB was a henchman as opposed to a CEO?
Let me be clear here though, I’m not defending him, just stating that the relationship you describe is completely wrong and I can, hand on heart, support my position.
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It’s no good looking at individual terrible results like yesterday. If you zoom out and look at the bigger picture, it actually looks even worse.
We’ve got a robust financial position we are told, great infrastructure, crowds even with our dire form which are among the better at this level and solid at the level above. Yet we have consistently been absolutely dreadful for the best part of three seasons now. And the longer time passes, the worse we look.
We’ve got all these advantages yet we are failing time and again. The trajectory is down, not up or even stabilising. We are on track to finish mid-table also rans in League Two. That’s absolutely damning.
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Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings. Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?
The buck stops with the Chairman surely?
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Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings. Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?
The buck stops with the Chairman surely?
The buck stops with the owner surely?
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Reading between the lines, I'm not entirely certain that the relationship between the owner and chairman is as close as it maybe once was. Gavin is the brains behind the money-making part of the operation so it's possible that Mr Blunt is expendable. However, he has shares in the club so I don't know how you would work around that.
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This current regime has seen us fall from a team punching well above its weight to a team that is absolutely failing in all and every KPI you care to look at.
It's not just happened now but has become a catalogue of failure over the last 3 years.
How do you react to extract yourself from these failures? well you don't do it by doing the same things we have done for the last few years, this has only made our plight worse.
So yes, the whole sorry cabal, Club Doncaster and uncle Tom cobly and all, it all needs to go if we're to have some sort of a fighting chance of resurrecting our club, could we fail, yes of course we could, but we could also succeed.
Under the present regime we will certainly fail, because that's all we've done for the last 3 years.
You need to sell Mr Bramall, sooner rather than later please.
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We are where we are due to
1) Appointing Andy Butler as manager when DM left.
No disrespect to AB of course. Fantastic servant and role model as player.
But he had no serious credentials to take over a team with promotion aspirations. We needed a manager preferably with a promotion on his CV who knows how to get a team promoted.
That was a massive error and started our downward spiral.
2) We then appointed Richie Wellens and personally I was happy with that as I think most people were. He has a winning mentality. Both as a player and also as a manager. He also had a league 2 promotion on his CV and promotions as a player on his CV.
Now I don’t know details of the budget he had but the recruitment was disastrous.
We were told the budget was mid table. The goal was to achieve that position.
Results started poorly and continued in that vein. We didn’t have a goalscorer or anyone resembling one.
Wellens was sacked at end of Nov.
3) We then appointed another novice in GM who could not arrest the slide and we were duly relegated in 22nd place.
GM was kept on as manager and Copps yet another novice was appointed as HoF
The recruitment seemed reasonable but we lacked the presence of physicality in the recruitment. Andrew excepted but he was only 20 yrs old with no 1st team experience. ( Then got injured )
We started 22/23 very well results wise although performances were far from convincing.
We then went into a sequence of results and performances which were quite unbelievably poor for the level we were playing at.
Barrow, Hartlepool & Carlisle all away being the worst.
After GM’s post match interview at Carlisle, it was obvious the only thing that could be done was relieve him of his duties. That was done.
4) Then we appoint yet another rookie manager that Copps had identified as a top coach. He had though only 9 games under his belt as a manager and in those 9 games i think only 1 maybe 2 were wins.
So what is the common denominator?
Rookie Managers and some really poor recruitment.
Blunt had presumably the final say in appointing Butler, Wellens & McSheffrey so he is responsible for those mistakes.
He also has the final say on the budget set. If our budget was mid table in 21/22 then as we were told then Wellens is culpable for spending most of it on dross.
If the budget was bottom 4 or even bottom 6/7 then we were always likely to be sailing against the wind.
Wellens never said that the budget was inadequate, in fact he said he would be aiming for the play off’s. A great attitude. Winning mentality again.
So are lessons ever going to be learned?
When DS inevitably picks up his P45 will Copps and Blunt realise we need a manager with a proper managerial CV
Do they understand promotion does not happen by accident.
It only happens if we have a manager and players who are capable of achieving it.
Now I do believe we have the nucleus of a squad capable of top 7 min in this league.
The current manger has failed miserably achieving it.
He is completely out of his depth both tactically and is lacking the motivational skills to get the best from this group of players.
We need to get rid of DS preferably immediately imo.
What is the point in waiting until next November when we will be no higher than where we are right now. Hold their hands up and admit it was a mistake.
Bring in a manager with a proper CV.
Then clear out some dead wood from the squad.
We then need to recruit 4 quality players in the summer.
Priority being a powerful mobile experienced midfielder ( probably in the age range 28/31 ) & a striker who has goals on his CV someone preferably in the age range 24/28 who can hold the ball up with back to goal.
If that means having a top 3 budget next season the let’s have a top 3 budget. Having said that a good manager, a tactically astute manager with motivational skills could get a a team on a much lesser budget promoted out of this league.
Evans at Stevenage being prime example this season ( it riles me to use him as an example ) & no i do not want him near our club.
Coleman at Accrington has shown what can be achieved with minimal budget.
Other examples are Morecambe, Forest Green Rovers, Burton Albion,
Cheltenham Town, Cambridge United. All much smaller clubs than us.
Look at Barrow, Sutton United and Harrogate Town operating in this league on very small budgets. All have held their own since their promotions to League 2.
WE NEED A PROPER MANAGER COPPS & MR BLUNT. If you’re serious about promotion next season then do not make the same mistake for the 4th time.
Only complete idiots would do that. Copps 1 mistake. Hopefully you have learnt from this and will find the Manager who will resurrect this Football Club to where it should be & where you yourself played for us and where our fantastic loyal fans deserve to see us play.
Sorry that was very long winded.
Needed to get that off my chest. Am still recovering from that debacle we endured yesterday.
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Can somebody who is in to this stuff look at the Clubs finances and tell me how much Blunt has poured into the club,bearing in mind he has the same or similar funds as JR had? I would be happy if he has put £500,000 a year in, that what I would expect from somebody with an annual income of Circa £1.2 million, I suspect that is not the case and Terry is probably paying the guy a salary!
I personally expect a decent club chairman at our level to be putting that sort of his own money in.
As For TB good luck mate you will be the richest man in the cemetery!
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To answer the o.p.’s question - absolutely.
We’re going down quicker than the Titanic.
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We are where we are due to
1) Appointing Andy Butler as manager when DM left. No disrespect to
AB of course. Fantastic servant and role model as player.
But he had no serious credentials to take over a team with promotion aspirations. We needed a manager preferably with a promotion on his CV who knew how to get a team promoted.
That was a massive error and started our downward spiral.
We then appointed Richie Wellens and personally I was happy with that as I think most people were. He has a winning mentality. Both as a player and also as a manager. He also had a league 2 promotion on his CV and promotions as a player on his CV.
Now I don’t know details of the budget he had but the recruitment was disastrous.
We were told the budget was mid table. The goal was to achieve that position.
Results started poorly and continued in that vein. We didn’t have a goalscorer or anyone resembling one.
Wellens was sacked at end of Nov.
We then appointed another novice in GM who could not arrest the slide and we were duly relegated in 22nd place.
GM was kept on as manager and Copps yet another novice was appointed as HoF
The recruitment seemed reasonable but we lacked the presence of physicality in the recruitment. Andrew excepted but he was only 20 yrs old with no 1st team experience. ( Then got injured )
We started 22/23 very well results wise although performances were far from convincing.
We then went into a sequence of results and performances which were quite unbelievably poor for the level we were playing at.
Barrow, Hartlepool & Carlisle all away being the worst.
After GM’s post match interview at Carlisle, it was obvious the only thing that could be done was relieve him of his duties. That was done.
Then we appoint yet another rookie manager that Copps had identified as a top coach. He had though only 9 games under his belt as a manager and in those 9 games i think only 1 maybe 2 were wins.
So what is the common denominator?
Rookie Managers and some really poor recruitment.
Blunt had presumably the final say in appointing Butler, Wellens & McSheffrey so he is responsible for those mistakes.
He has the final say on the budget set also. If our budget was mid table in 21/22 then Wellens is culpable for spending most of it on dross.
If the budget was bottom 4 or even bottom 6/7 then we were always likely to be sailing against the wind.
Wellens never said that the budget was inadequate, in fact he said he would be aiming for the play off’s. A great attitude. Winning mentality again.
The Butler appointment was maybe with a sympathetic wind, something you could make a case for. It was so late in the season that getting someone new in to see us over the line might have caused more disruption than benefit. It clearly didn’t work though.
Wellens was a total mystery. He’s obviously a decent manager but it started badly and got worse. Terrible football and terrible recruitment. There probably was some budget pressure but he went early on signings so must have had an idea what he wanted. Likewise Aiden O’Brien and Will Grigg fell through, but would not have been cheap. So I don’t buy altogether him being starved of cash. He didn’t buy at all well and the football was appalling.
Then McSheffrey. An absolutely disastrous decision. Not since that SAS guy left the voicemail message has a worse decision been made at the club. What on earth were they thinking. Felt sorry for him. Whoever signed that off needs putting before a jury.
Schofield clearly not great so far but you can see some semblance of logic behind him. Sadly performances, results and probably recruitment have not been great and we are getting worse rather than better.
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We are where we are due to
1) Appointing Andy Butler as manager when DM left. No disrespect to
AB of course. Fantastic servant and role model as player.
But he had no serious credentials to take over a team with promotion aspirations. We needed a manager preferably with a promotion on his CV who knew how to get a team promoted.
That was a massive error and started our downward spiral.
We then appointed Richie Wellens and personally I was happy with that as I think most people were. He has a winning mentality. Both as a player and also as a manager. He also had a league 2 promotion on his CV and promotions as a player on his CV.
Now I don’t know details of the budget he had but the recruitment was disastrous.
We were told the budget was mid table. The goal was to achieve that position.
Results started poorly and continued in that vein. We didn’t have a goalscorer or anyone resembling one.
Wellens was sacked at end of Nov.
We then appointed another novice in GM who could not arrest the slide and we were duly relegated in 22nd place.
GM was kept on as manager and Copps yet another novice was appointed as HoF
The recruitment seemed reasonable but we lacked the presence of physicality in the recruitment. Andrew excepted but he was only 20 yrs old with no 1st team experience. ( Then got injured )
We started 22/23 very well results wise although performances were far from convincing.
We then went into a sequence of results and performances which were quite unbelievably poor for the level we were playing at.
Barrow, Hartlepool & Carlisle all away being the worst.
After GM’s post match interview at Carlisle, it was obvious the only thing that could be done was relieve him of his duties. That was done.
Then we appoint yet another rookie manager that Copps had identified as a top coach. He had though only 9 games under his belt as a manager and in those 9 games i think only 1 maybe 2 were wins.
So what is the common denominator?
Rookie Managers and some really poor recruitment.
Blunt had presumably the final say in appointing Butler, Wellens & McSheffrey so he is responsible for those mistakes.
He has the final say on the budget set also. If our budget was mid table in 21/22 then Wellens is culpable for spending most of it on dross.
If the budget was bottom 4 or even bottom 6/7 then we were always likely to be sailing against the wind.
Wellens never said that the budget was inadequate, in fact he said he would be aiming for the play off’s. A great attitude. Winning mentality again.
The Butler appointment was maybe with a sympathetic wind, something you could make a case for. It was so late in the season that getting someone new in to see us over the line might have caused more disruption than benefit. It clearly didn’t work though.
Wellens was a total mystery. He’s obviously a decent manager but it started badly and got worse. Terrible football and terrible recruitment. There probably was some budget pressure but he went early on signings so must have had an idea what he wanted. Likewise Aiden O’Brien and Will Grigg fell through, but would not have been cheap. So I don’t buy altogether him being starved of cash. He didn’t buy at all well and the football was appalling.
Then McSheffrey. An absolutely disastrous decision. Not since that SAS guy left the voicemail message has a worse decision been made at the club. What on earth were they thinking. Felt sorry for him. Whoever signed that off needs putting before a jury.
Schofield clearly not great so far but you can see some semblance of logic behind him. Sadly performances, results and probably recruitment have not been great and we are getting worse rather than better.
Don’t know what happened there. Your reply to my post. It’s not my full post. ;) post reply no 27
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Yes the Chairman needs to go. Until that happens nothing will improve.
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Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings. Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?
The buck stops with the Chairman surely?
The buck stops with the owner surely?
In terms of decision making that we’ve seen over the last few seasons then it’s the Chair who shoulders that.
But in this case the owner and Chair is the same person so your point is superfluous.
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Is it not possible for a new Chair to be appointed and the current Chair accepts their failures as Chair and remains as board member, shareholder, owner?
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Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings. Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?
The buck stops with the Chairman surely?
The buck stops with the owner surely?
In terms of decision making that we’ve seen over the last few seasons then it’s the Chair who shoulders that.
But in this case the owner and Chair is the same person so your point is superfluous.
I think you are being a little disingenuous in suggesting David Blunt is the owner when we all know Terry Brammall is "the real owner"
Who of the 3 shareholders has put any significant amounts of money into the club? I will give you a clue. It isn't David Blunt or Gavin Baldwin!!
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So we’re stuck with him till someone buys him out? I’d hope he could be replaced as chairman while maintaining whatever shareholding he has.
Very awkward situation at the top with him and TB obviously been quite close.
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Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings. Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?
The buck stops with the Chairman surely?
The buck stops with the owner surely?
In terms of decision making that we’ve seen over the last few seasons then it’s the Chair who shoulders that.
But in this case the owner and Chair is the same person so your point is superfluous.
I think you are being a little disingenuous in suggesting David Blunt is the owner when we all know Terry Brammall is "the real owner"
Who of the 3 shareholders has put any significant amounts of money into the club? I will give you a clue. It isn't David Blunt or Gavin Baldwin!!
I didn’t suggest otherwise, but the truth is (and you can guarantee I know much more about this than you do, despite the clues you’re giving me) that DB is as much an owner of the club as TB is. He may have sunk many millions of his money into the club but DB is Chair and is also an equivalent owner.
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So we’re stuck with him till someone buys him out? I’d hope he could be replaced as chairman while maintaining whatever shareholding he has.
Very awkward situation at the top with him and TB obviously been quite close.
For the time being yes.
At the time I wanted Andy Watson to step up and be Chair, I thought he would have been an excellent choice but it wasn’t to be.
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Is it not possible for a new Chair to be appointed and the current Chair accepts their failures as Chair and remains as board member, shareholder, owner?
Yes, but who would that be?
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So we’re stuck with him till someone buys him out? I’d hope he could be replaced as chairman while maintaining whatever shareholding he has.
Very awkward situation at the top with him and TB obviously been quite close.
For the time being yes.
At the time I wanted Andy Watson to step up and be Chair, I thought he would have been an excellent choice but it wasn’t to be.
That’s gutting I know the Watson family did so much for the club. Do we know if Blunt is willing to sell or looking too?
One thing about us now I can’t get my head around is why we aren’t open about looking to sell the club on. 100% it has to be the the right people but we aren’t going anywhere with this ownership model.
It’s got us on a good financial footing but to move on we need a change. Do we know if anyone is standing in the way of this as any sale would need all parties to be on the same boat.
That’s the only reason I can think of for us not to at least be open about it.
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So we’re stuck with him till someone buys him out? I’d hope he could be replaced as chairman while maintaining whatever shareholding he has.
Very awkward situation at the top with him and TB obviously been quite close.
For the time being yes.
At the time I wanted Andy Watson to step up and be Chair, I thought he would have been an excellent choice but it wasn’t to be.
That’s gutting I know the Watson family did so much for the club. Do we know if Blunt is willing to sell or looking too?
One thing about us now I can’t get my head around is why we aren’t open about looking to sell the club on. 100% it has to be the the right people but we aren’t going anywhere with this ownership model.
It’s got us on a good financial footing but to move on we need a change. Do we know if anyone is standing in the way of this as any sale would need all parties to be on the same boat.
That’s the only reason I can think of for us not to at least be open about it.
Ignore this seen post on another thread saying they’ll sell if offered.
Think this needs publicising not so much to attract investors which isn’t straightforward but for us fans. I have hope that if we sell the club can get itself together but without it there isn’t much hope of improvement.
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Regardless of any of it someone has to be accountable for the constant failings. Just what are they going to do to fix things as more of the same just isn't going to work is it?
The buck stops with the Chairman surely?
It feels that way.
The more things go backwards the more it's hard to disagree with the vocal grumbles from fans at games. I've tended to think at game chants etc are unhelpful, but nothing else is making a difference. I'm not convinced that will either and I'm not about to start joining in, but I don't blame them.
When discussing it with friends and those I see weekly at home games I still have the same conclusion. Why own a football club without intending to compete as high as possible or for it to be fun? It's pointless.
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So we’re stuck with him till someone buys him out? I’d hope he could be replaced as chairman while maintaining whatever shareholding he has.
Very awkward situation at the top with him and TB obviously been quite close.
For the time being yes.
At the time I wanted Andy Watson to step up and be Chair, I thought he would have been an excellent choice but it wasn’t to be.
That’s gutting I know the Watson family did so much for the club. Do we know if Blunt is willing to sell or looking too?
One thing about us now I can’t get my head around is why we aren’t open about looking to sell the club on. 100% it has to be the the right people but we aren’t going anywhere with this ownership model.
It’s got us on a good financial footing but to move on we need a change. Do we know if anyone is standing in the way of this as any sale would need all parties to be on the same boat.
That’s the only reason I can think of for us not to at least be open about it.
From previous discussions I would say that it’s always been a case of everybody having to be in agreement.
The thing is the club has always been for sale, or at least they have always been willing to listen to any reasonable offers. But despite interest nothing has ever got to due diligence, or even formal talks, apart from JR and Sequentia which of course failed due diligence.
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Terry Bramall has done a great deal for the club and hopefully what’s happening now won’t tarnish his legacy, but gifting* an equal holding in the club to two people who haven’t put money in which seemingly means that three people need to agree to any sale doesn’t seem like a good decision to me.
*I’m happy for anyone to suggest this didn’t happen but that’s certainly how it appears
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Terry Bramall has done a great deal for the club and hopefully what’s happening now won’t tarnish his legacy, but gifting* an equal holding in the club to two people who haven’t put money in which seemingly means that three people need to agree to any sale doesn’t seem like a good decision to me.
*I’m happy for anyone to suggest this didn’t happen but that’s certainly how it appears
It will be interesting to see how much blunt and Baldwin walk away with, when the club is eventually sold.
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In my opinion, YES, he’s the person that ultimatly gives the nod on player recruitment based on finance, he’s running the club down, it’s time to go, we just can’t stomach this decline anymore, it’s becoming terminal and possibly irreversible, something has to give, start at the top, and then recruit an experienced head coach, not a novice with 9 senior games on his CV
Yes ... If 1000 plus of us go , he should too to see what we are enduring
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Terry Bramall has done a great deal for the club and hopefully what’s happening now won’t tarnish his legacy, but gifting* an equal holding in the club to two people who haven’t put money in which seemingly means that three people need to agree to any sale doesn’t seem like a good decision to me.
*I’m happy for anyone to suggest this didn’t happen but that’s certainly how it appears
It will be interesting to see how much blunt and Baldwin walk away with, when the club is eventually sold.
I wouldn’t be holding my breath on that one.
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Terry Bramall has done a great deal for the club and hopefully what’s happening now won’t tarnish his legacy, but gifting* an equal holding in the club to two people who haven’t put money in which seemingly means that three people need to agree to any sale doesn’t seem like a good decision to me.
*I’m happy for anyone to suggest this didn’t happen but that’s certainly how it appears
That’s not how it happened. The deal is far more complicated than that.
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I'm not sure the ownership per se is the problem it is the decision-making. If the playing budget is genuinely good enough to be competitive as we are constantly assured it is then surely what is wrong is the capability or policies of those in key positions.
Whatever is wrong it is clearly at the hands of those individuals and the decision-makers at the club need finally to take it seriously and put things right.
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I would love to know how the three "owners" see the future of our club.
Are their priorities.
A. To run club Doncaster as a profitable company?
B. To have Doncaster Rovers as a sustainable operation?
C. To be in a position where they don't have to put any money in? ( I haven't said "more money" in as it seems from the figures quoted on here recently that only one owner has?
D. To invest in attempting to achieve promotion to League 1.
How do you think they would prioritise those 4 objectives.
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C, B, A, D. What it should be is D, A, B, C!!
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Terry Bramall has done a great deal for the club and hopefully what’s happening now won’t tarnish his legacy, but gifting* an equal holding in the club to two people who haven’t put money in which seemingly means that three people need to agree to any sale doesn’t seem like a good decision to me.
*I’m happy for anyone to suggest this didn’t happen but that’s certainly how it appears
It will be interesting to see how much blunt and Baldwin walk away with, when the club is eventually sold.
I wouldn’t be holding my breath on that one.
Is that because there's a clause saying they won't get anything ?
Brammall did say they won't be giving the club away at the meet the owners meeting
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The club is by many standards well run , but the politics of trying build a self sustaining club that requires 2-3-or more £million to run and on low attendances and that is still the effecting player recruitment. No matter who sits in the Chair the running of the club will still needs a pragmatic person with very thick skin . Clearly the board hasn’t got a bottomless pit of cash and using the budget with a grace of surgeon so not to effect the FairPlay rules must be depressing when coming under pressures each we loose a game . The basic facts are , is that we need a REAL manager who has the experience to connect to the players and and can get his core tactics played on the pitch . The players at present seem more hit and hope rather than knowledge based ! In other word Schofield is an amateur even at this Level !!