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Title: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: selby on March 19, 2023, 05:09:08 pm
  The biggest question about this game is has anyone any confidence we can go to the third bottom of the division and win?
  Crawley are third from the bottom of the division, but above us In the present form league, having won their last two games while we have been abjectly poor, us being third from the bottom of that league despite our technical ability, and switched on modern tactical management team.
   So what can we expect, at present? I think not a lot, and those supporters still willing to travel long distances must dread a long night time journey if again they and our team have the stuffing knocked out of us.
  I am normally a lifelong happy clappy bunny, and thought that I had seen most things in football over my long suffering support of this club, but this period seems even worse than what has happened to the club in the past as I see this period as total ineptitude on the playing side.
 The club has never had in the past the facilities the club now possess at the training ground, stadium, and medical back up it has at present, and the IT back up, to monitor  players and their ability to play, and we have ended up with players who would not hold a place in levels of football in non league a number of levels below, and a management team that would be and in the Kings Lynn FA first round cup game were completely out of their depth being one trick ponies who don't or will not adapt to different situations, and are pedantic and stubborn enough to stick to formations and players clearly not up to the job at hand and are oblivious of any ideas that would likely change a game.
   What team we field on Tuesday I have no idea, our latest injury list growing again and players picking up long term injuries again, the team spirit looks on the floor with no natural leader if Anderson is absent, and we play like individuals and not a cohesive team.
  Of the three goals conceded again on Saturday two were schoolboy errors seen on local parks on a Sunday morning, and games of football are awfully hard to win doing that, and we were lucky at other times the post came to our rescue when our technical defenders got skinned again.
   As you can see in this column I have very little faith in our team and management to alter a slide now, I don't even think they have the spirit and pride in themselves to give it a go, fight being a rare occasion since the first few games of the season under GM.
  How do you see this game? what do you think the outcome will be? are you like me hoping to be made a fool of and completely wrong when the team go on a long unbeaten run to the end of the season? 
   Please have your say.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Campsall rover on March 19, 2023, 05:57:04 pm
  The biggest question about this game is has anyone any confidence we can go to the third bottom of the division and win?
  Crawley are third from the bottom of the division, but above us In the present form league, having won their last two games while we have been abjectly poor, us being third from the bottom of that league despite our technical ability, and switched on modern tactical management team.
   So what can we expect, at present? I think not a lot, and those supporters still willing to travel long distances must dread a long night time journey if again they and our team have the stuffing knocked out of us.
  I am normally a lifelong happy clappy bunny, and thought that I had seen most things in football over my long suffering support of this club, but this period seems even worse than what has happened to the club in the past as I see this period as total ineptitude on the playing side.
 The club has never had in the past the facilities the club now possess at the training ground, stadium, and medical back up it has at present, and the IT back up, to monitor  players and their ability to play, and we have ended up with players who would not hold a place in levels of football in non league a number of levels below, and a management team that would be and in the Kings Lynn FA first round cup game were completely out of their depth being one trick ponies who don't or will not adapt to different situations, and are pedantic and stubborn enough to stick to formations and players clearly not up to the job at hand and are oblivious of any ideas that would likely change a game.
   What team we field on Tuesday I have no idea, our latest injury list growing again and players picking up long term injuries again, the team spirit looks on the floor with no natural leader if Anderson is absent, and we play like individuals and not a cohesive team.
  Of the three goals conceded again on Saturday two were schoolboy errors seen on local parks on a Sunday morning, and games of football are awfully hard to win doing that, and we were lucky at other times the post came to our rescue when our technical defenders got skinned again.
   As you can see in this column I have very little faith in our team and management to alter a slide now, I don't even think they have the spirit and pride in themselves to give it a go, fight being a rare occasion since the first few games of the season under GM.
  How do you see this game? what do you think the outcome will be? are you like me hoping to be made a fool of and completely wrong when the team go on a long unbeaten run to the end of the season? 
   Please have your say.
Last paragraph.Brian.  Just seen 3 pigs fly over my house.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: normal rules on March 19, 2023, 06:18:26 pm
If the team go on a long unbeaten run between now and the end of the season it would mean every team we play have to do a “Fulham”* in the first 5 mins of each game.

* reference to the moments madness at old Trafford this afternoon.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: roversdude on March 19, 2023, 10:03:30 pm
I’m going as it’s a new ground and we have a site down that way that I can call in at.
However I seem to have misplaced the tickets from the original game - anyone know if I can get replacements please……or is it a sign not to go.
I will call the ticket office in the morning
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Bentley Bullet on March 19, 2023, 10:34:09 pm
I'm putting my reputation on the line here because I feel we might go on a bit of a run over the next couple of games. Whether it's because we've reached rock bottom and the only way is up, or the opposition will now stop taking us seriously, or our players might be playing for their futures, or maybe a combination of all three scenarios might give us a change in fortunes.

Of course, it might just as easily, and most probably will turn out to be me just carrying on a typical Rovers fan's habit of wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Campsall rover on March 20, 2023, 12:08:56 am
I'm putting my reputation on the line here because I feel we might go on a bit of a run over the next couple of games. Whether it's because we've reached rock bottom and the only way is up, or the opposition will now stop taking us seriously, or our players might be playing for their futures, or maybe a combination of all three scenarios might give us a change in fortunes.

Of course, it might just as easily, and most probably will turn out to be me just carrying on a typical Rovers fan's habit of wishful thinking.
Well BB before Saturday I genuinely believed if we could go and win at Salford we had a chance of making the play offs. I also did think we could go there and win. Crewe had just put 4 goals past them.

We have a lot of games against teams with not much to play for in our run in.  Our run in was possibly the easiest ( on paper ) of all our rivals. 

What I didn’t expect was such an inept display from our team at Salford. That 2nd half we looked totally disinterested. Looked like a set of players who had never clapped eyes on each other before.

So after that I have given up with any positive expectations for the last 10 games. Under this manager we are going backwards.
Don’t know what DS said at half time but based on how they played it would almost looked as if the players had downed tools and had stopped listening.

Any more performances of that ilk and DS has to go before the seasons end.  We cannot afford to waste this  summers transfer window and end up in the same or even worse position in November.

Brave and bold decisions need to be made. If the board really want promotion then let’s see the evidence.
A manager with experience of this league and league 1 required, and one who has a track record of success.
Preferably one with a managerial promotion on his CV.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 20, 2023, 12:55:44 am
We could go there and win. No way will we get in the playoffs unfortunately, at the end of the season .
Crawley are a very poor side, but we are capable of our standard dropping to theirs.

I hope for a win. I would love us to go on a good run but our consistency just isn’t there. Yes win one or two in a very poor league, but not good enough to maintain good performances.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Chris Black come back on March 20, 2023, 05:39:16 am
We’ve never lost at Crawley Town and they have only ever scored a single goal against us at their place, ironically 10 years ago against a defence of Husband, Jones, McCombe and Quinn.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Silkscarf on March 20, 2023, 06:21:09 am
Salford was the last chance for any thoughts of scraping into the playoffs to paper over the cracks.

Now I’m just thinking how many of these players do I want to see wearing our shirt again next season and do I trust the current manager to buy some better ones?

Today my answers are not many and probably not.

We must start to look interested at Crawley, do the basics, get tackles in or at least get bodies in the way, have a plan B and C, get the fans excited and build the foundations for August.

If that doesn’t happen in the last 10 games then Schofield has to go.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: i_ateallthepies on March 20, 2023, 10:23:48 am
We could go there and win. No way will we get in the playoffs unfortunately, at the end of the season .
Crawley are a very poor side, but we are capable of our standard dropping to theirs.

I hope for a win. I would love us to go on a good run but our consistency just isn’t there. Yes win one or two in a very poor league, but not good enough to maintain good performances.


Sammy, given what we've been seeing recently, for our standard to be anything comparable to theirs ours will need to be raised.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: steve@dcfd on March 20, 2023, 10:50:44 am
So according to Freepress Miller and Biggins not available for Crawley both will be having scans. Nelson on international duty Mitchell had a dislocated shoulder so he could be out for weeks. Ro Shaun not available for this game
So if Anderson is available and Olowu and Long then Tommy could play midfield.
It’s not looking good for the next two games at least
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: selby on March 20, 2023, 11:23:53 am
 Just for a moment put yourself in the shoes of the Crawley manager or any other manager in this division in the lead up to playing us, and think about what information you would pass on to the players that you might think would help them to get a winning result against us. My information would be as follows.
   Doncaster have one way of playing with just one player playing up front. They like to play out from the back and draw attackers onto the defenders picking the short ball up from the keeper, but are not natural ball players, are slow and cumbersome and can be caught in possession, and their passing accuracy is suspect when under pressure.
  The mid field players have little movement when not in possession of the ball and do not show for the ball in space for the defenders to pass to on many occasions and can be dealt with collecting the ball, and again when they play the through ball the accuracy is poor and gives us chances to intercept the pass or catch the attacker in possession.  They also regularly don't pick up players just outside their penalty area when defending centrally 25 to 30 yards out and a number of times have given mid fielders time and space to shoot resulting in goals against them  this season from range.
  The back line are poor in wide positions especially their wide left defenders who are susceptible to the quick diagonal pass from mid field, are poor at stopping the centre coming in across goal from wide areas, the left side central defender is poor positionally and average in the air, and can be turned and outmuscled.  The wing backs shove up exposing space behind and get the wrong side of wingers trying to get forward.
  The mid field play lots of negative balls sideways or short passes wide or back into the back line, through balls are rare and mostly inaccurate and rarely reach the front attackers behind the attackers marker and are usually 50/50 balls, and apart from Biggins and Larkin are weak when not on the ball cannot tackle and can become anonymous quickly if being marked closely when on the ball.
  Miller can be quite dangerous when running onto the ball, but has a weakness playing the ball with his left foot especially on the run, so needs to be forced onto his left foot if challenged and blocked on his right.
  Molineux is the opposite , likes to cut inside from the right drop his shoulder and shoot with his left foot he needs forcing onto his right foot when on the run.
  Doncaster WILL play this way it being their only way of playing and insisted on.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: selby on March 20, 2023, 11:29:41 am
 Steve@dcfc, if we play Long if Faulkner can be recalled then the idiots have really taken over the nut house.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: steve@dcfd on March 20, 2023, 11:33:46 am
Steve@dcfc, if we play Long if Faulkner can be recalled then the idiots have really taken over the nut house.
I agree with that Selby but with Nelson missing two games this week. Anderson and Ro Shaun could be available this and maybe next week. I think the manager will leave it as it is. Wrong decision but one of many
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ncRover on March 20, 2023, 11:41:41 am
Any news on Biggins?

Midfield isn’t looking good.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: steve@dcfd on March 20, 2023, 11:57:38 am
Any news on Biggins?

Midfield isn’t looking good.
Yes I have said above he’s out Tomorrow and having a scan
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Campsall rover on March 20, 2023, 12:13:37 pm
Just for a moment put yourself in the shoes of the Crawley manager or any other manager in this division in the lead up to playing us, and think about what information you would pass on to the players that you might think would help them to get a winning result against us. My information would be as follows.
   Doncaster have one way of playing with just one player playing up front. They like to play out from the back and draw attackers onto the defenders picking the short ball up from the keeper, but are not natural ball players, are slow and cumbersome and can be caught in possession, and their passing accuracy is suspect when under pressure.
  The mid field players have little movement when not in possession of the ball and do not show for the ball in space for the defenders to pass to on many occasions and can be dealt with collecting the ball, and again when they play the through ball the accuracy is poor and gives us chances to intercept the pass or catch the attacker in possession.  They also regularly don't pick up players just outside their penalty area when defending centrally 25 to 30 yards out and a number of times have given mid fielders time and space to shoot resulting in goals against them  this season from range.
  The back line are poor in wide positions especially their wide left defenders who are susceptible to the quick diagonal pass from mid field, are poor at stopping the centre coming in across goal from wide areas, the left side central defender is poor positionally and average in the air, and can be turned and outmuscled.  The wing backs shove up exposing space behind and get the wrong side of wingers trying to get forward.
  The mid field play lots of negative balls sideways or short passes wide or back into the back line, through balls are rare and mostly inaccurate and rarely reach the front attackers behind the attackers marker and are usually 50/50 balls, and apart from Biggins and Larkin are weak when not on the ball cannot tackle and can become anonymous quickly if being marked closely when on the ball.
  Miller can be quite dangerous when running onto the ball, but has a weakness playing the ball with his left foot especially on the run, so needs to be forced onto his left foot if challenged and blocked on his right.
  Molineux is the opposite , likes to cut inside from the right drop his shoulder and shoot with his left foot he needs forcing onto his right foot when on the run.
  Doncaster WILL play this way it being their only way of playing and insisted on.
If I was the Crawley manager and had done homework on us that’s exactly Brian what I wold be telling them.
They will think right we can win this and you know what they probably will. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Silkscarf on March 20, 2023, 12:35:32 pm
...Midfield isn’t looking good.

But when did it?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ncRover on March 20, 2023, 01:11:05 pm
...Midfield isn’t looking good.

But when did it?

2019
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: roversdude on March 20, 2023, 02:42:03 pm
Maybe we should do a Bolton in this game
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Donnywolf on March 20, 2023, 03:11:50 pm
Anyone seen the Forecast ? Just seen BBC / Meteo and it's abysmal rain rain rain

Maybe they will fight to play us though this time ?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: steve@dcfd on March 20, 2023, 03:38:09 pm
Well the players will start dropping out they’ve nothing to play for now. Manager can’t get them to play and playoffs are out now.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on March 21, 2023, 12:44:36 am
Looking like it's going to be a threadbare matchday squad tomorrow so, not expecting anything from this game. Anything will be an achievement.

Not really a game we can judge Schofields team selection or overall competence.

Likely young shoulders will be called upon to bear the responsibility.of a first team start. Will be interesting to see how they perform in the face of adversity. Possibly the approach will be to keep it simple and try to do the basics well. If in doubt, Row Z.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 21, 2023, 03:53:27 am
Faulkner needs to start, give him the opportunity. He’s been out on loan, he needs games and we need to see how good he can be.
You never give up on promotion while there is a chance but it’s unlikely.
I would go for


                             Moore

              Faulkner.  Anderson.  Olowu

Brown.                                               Seaman
 
            Close.       Ravenhill.   Rowe


     Molyneux                                    Hurst

                               Lavery

         
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Campsall rover on March 21, 2023, 04:10:30 am
Looking like it's going to be a threadbare matchday squad tomorrow so, not expecting anything from this game. Anything will be an achievement.

Not really a game we can judge Schofields team selection or overall competence.

Likely young shoulders will be called upon to bear the responsibility.of a first team start. Will be interesting to see how they perform in the face of adversity. Possibly the approach will be to keep it simple and try to do the basics well. If in doubt, Row Z.
DBR I have a lot of respect for you. Your posts have always been sensible and level headed and have been one one the voices of reason on this forum for many a year.
But I simply don’t understand how you can in any way defend this total shambles we are witnessing at present.

Schofield is out of his depth. The players quite obviously have stopped listening to him and are not buying into his “process” as he keeps calling it.
The fact that so many players are suddenly going down injured at the present time also suggests a lack of belief in what’s going on both in training and the results on match days. Is it just a co incidence?

Admittedly there is a contradiction in what I have just said in the fact that Anderson, Hurst & Olowu have signed new contracts.
Maybe they know DS is going to be sacked at the end of the season and we are bringing in Neil Warnock as our next manager. Well maybe not. But a manager with a proper managerial CV at least.

This sh.t show cannot be allowed to go on any longer. Season ticket sales will be luck to hit 2000 for next season.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: drfchound on March 21, 2023, 09:22:17 am
Faulkner needs to start, give him the opportunity. He’s been out on loan, he needs games and we need to see how good he can be.
You never give up on promotion while there is a chance but it’s unlikely.
I would go for


                             Moore

              Faulkner.  Anderson.  Olowu

Brown.                                               Seaman
 
            Close.       Ravenhill.   Rowe


     Molyneux                                    Hurst

                               Lavery

       

There are 12 players in that line up.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 21, 2023, 09:30:02 am
Faulkner needs to start, give him the opportunity. He’s been out on loan, he needs games and we need to see how good he can be.
You never give up on promotion while there is a chance but it’s unlikely.
I would go for


                             Moore

              Faulkner.  Anderson.  Olowu

Brown.                                               Seaman
 
                    Close.          Rowe


     Molyneux                                    Hurst

                               Lavery

       

There are 12 players in that line up.

I thought we needed the extra player. Must have been tired.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: drfchound on March 21, 2023, 10:14:27 am
Faulkner needs to start, give him the opportunity. He’s been out on loan, he needs games and we need to see how good he can be.
You never give up on promotion while there is a chance but it’s unlikely.
I would go for


                             Moore

              Faulkner.  Anderson.  Olowu

Brown.                                               Seaman
 
                    Close.          Rowe


     Molyneux                                    Hurst

                               Lavery

       

There are 12 players in that line up.

I thought we needed the extra player. Must have been tired.

It might give us a bit of an advantage.
The usual standard L2 ref probably wouldn’t notice.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: steve@dcfd on March 21, 2023, 10:46:50 am
Faulkner needs to start, give him the opportunity. He’s been out on loan, he needs games and we need to see how good he can be.
You never give up on promotion while there is a chance but it’s unlikely.
I would go for


                             Moore

              Faulkner.  Anderson.  Olowu

Brown.                                               Seaman
 
            Close.       Ravenhill.   Rowe


     Molyneux                                    Hurst

                               Lavery

         
Take Ravenhill out the line up 12th man any way and I would go with that. Can we win with that side don’t know but it’s the best we’ve got
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: StocktonRover on March 21, 2023, 11:54:57 am
Faulkner needs to start, give him the opportunity. He’s been out on loan, he needs games and we need to see how good he can be.
You never give up on promotion while there is a chance but it’s unlikely.
I would go for


                             Moore

              Faulkner.  Anderson.  Olowu

Brown.                                               Seaman
 
                    Close.          Rowe


     Molyneux                                    Hurst

                               Lavery

       

There are 12 players in that line up.

I thought we needed the extra player. Must have been tired.
So you would take Miller out who has scored 2 in 2?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ncRover on March 21, 2023, 11:56:39 am
Close and Rowe cannot be the only 2 central midfielders. No legs, would get overrun completely.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: steve@dcfd on March 21, 2023, 12:05:52 pm
There is no one else Ravenhill will not be up to the task
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Butchers Red on March 21, 2023, 12:10:40 pm
Let's give it a go for christ sake

                               MOORE

BROWN   FAULKENER   ANDERSON   OLOWU

      CLOSE      RAVENHILL   MOLYNEUX

                                  HURST
                    LAVERY              GOODMAN
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ravenrover on March 21, 2023, 12:15:12 pm
Miller is injured
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Butchers Red on March 21, 2023, 12:21:47 pm
Miller is injured


Thanks I forgot that - so why not give Goodman the experience - there really is nothing to lose from hereon to season end.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ncRover on March 21, 2023, 12:51:42 pm
Miller is injured


Thanks I forgot that - so why not give Goodman the experience - there really is nothing to lose from hereon to season end.

Do you not think that our final league position is somewhat of a determinant as to which players we could attract in the summer?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on March 21, 2023, 05:36:26 pm
Miller is injured


Thanks I forgot that - so why not give Goodman the experience - there really is nothing to lose from hereon to season end.
Agree with this, we keep developing and giving experience to other clubs loans at the expense of developing our own players. Miller, T is lightweight and just can't effect games, I'd be blooding our own players now and sending him back. I always liked the look of Kuleya whenever he gets a chance, another example where a bit more nurturing could have developing a great asset for us.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: karldew on March 21, 2023, 06:36:34 pm
Faulkner needs to start, give him the opportunity. He’s been out on loan, he needs games and we need to see how good he can be.
You never give up on promotion while there is a chance but it’s unlikely.
I would go for


                             Moore

              Faulkner.  Anderson.  Olowu

Brown.                                               Seaman
 
                    Close.          Rowe


     Molyneux                                    Hurst

                               Lavery

       

There are 12 players in that line up.

I thought we needed the extra player. Must have been tired.
So you would take Miller out who has scored 2 in 2?

Miller is injured I think?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 21, 2023, 06:45:45 pm
That’s why I haven’t got Biggins or Miller in, injured from what’s coming from reports.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on March 21, 2023, 07:00:35 pm
Looking like it's going to be a threadbare matchday squad tomorrow so, not expecting anything from this game. Anything will be an achievement.

Not really a game we can judge Schofields team selection or overall competence.

Likely young shoulders will be called upon to bear the responsibility.of a first team start. Will be interesting to see how they perform in the face of adversity. Possibly the approach will be to keep it simple and try to do the basics well. If in doubt, Row Z.

Surely though this is such a test. It is not a question of Schofield showing that he can coax a good performance out of the depleted squad? Although I'm not sure that even a DRFC scratch 11 should be losing to Crawley, those who still have some faith in him could find credit in a determined display.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: selby on March 21, 2023, 07:35:09 pm
  I am beginning to think we have a complete idiot on our hands to be honest, I cannot for the life of me see any gain in bringing Faulkner off his loan at Spennymoor where he would have been playing in a game tonight to sit on the bench at Crawley.
 He has totally undermined that lads progress and reputation, could well have cost this club thousands of pounds in his valuation, and is driving the lad away from his home town club who he always wanted to play for.
  You reap what you sow.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Alan Southstand on March 21, 2023, 07:40:43 pm
I don’t always agree with you, Selby, but ‘complete idiot’ seems about right to me.

Lose tonight and he should be gone - but his saving grace is that he’s not the only idiot at the Club!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Rovers91 on March 21, 2023, 08:05:29 pm
  I am beginning to think we have a complete idiot on our hands to be honest, I cannot for the life of me see any gain in bringing Faulkner off his loan at Spennymoor where he would have been playing in a game tonight to sit on the bench at Crawley.
 He has totally undermined that lads progress and reputation, could well have cost this club thousands of pounds in his valuation, and is driving the lad away from his home town club who he always wanted to play for.
  You reap what you sow.

I want Schofield to go we need better, but if we only have Anderson, Olowu and Rowe available tonight for the 3 centre backs. He has to recall Faulkner in case we get an injury during the game and in case he's needed at the weekend.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: jamesrover17 on March 21, 2023, 08:34:59 pm
Tough watch this gents…
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Pside on March 21, 2023, 09:37:47 pm
This has been absolutely disgusting tonight. He needs to go, we’ve gone backwards.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on March 21, 2023, 09:42:48 pm
  I am beginning to think we have a complete idiot on our hands to be honest, I cannot for the life of me see any gain in bringing Faulkner off his loan at Spennymoor where he would have been playing in a game tonight to sit on the bench at Crawley.
 He has totally undermined that lads progress and reputation, could well have cost this club thousands of pounds in his valuation, and is driving the lad away from his home town club who he always wanted to play for.
  You reap what you sow.


Yep doesn’t look like a smart person with that move. Not sure what Faulkner gets out of coming on at 60min.

He has to go before the season is out. Expectations are dangerously low as they are if he sees this season out continuing like this the ticket sales will plummet
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: MachoMadness on March 21, 2023, 09:43:52 pm
One of the worst games of football I've ever seen. Spent most of the second half playing a game on my phone. f**king dreadful.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Donnyjim on March 21, 2023, 09:56:20 pm
How many times can we change manager? How many times have we changed manager recently? Nothing changes, the decline continues. Insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results? If we don’t get new owners soon we are quickly heading for one of the darkest era’s of the club, since Richardson.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Branton Red on March 21, 2023, 10:03:41 pm
That was awful!

Just as you think they couldn't possibly get any worse.....

1 shot; no corners; no attacking intent; totally 2nd best to a team 22nd in the league who, in terms of quality, looked exactly like a team in 22nd in the league.

Unless something changes Rovers are going to be in a relegation dogfight next season.

And what's even more worrying is there is simply no fight in this team whatsoever.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: selby on March 21, 2023, 10:22:12 pm
The back line were faultless, Olowu Anderson Rowe and Faulkner when he came on played well as did the two full backs Ravenhill did ok, the striker took his one chance well, the rest of them did very little going forward, Molineux put a shift in tackling back
   How do I know Sunday that there would be a good chance Crawley would score from twenty yards straight in front of goal and no midfielder defending that area in sight. We must be one of the few teams in professional football that don't defend with a midfielder the area in front of the D when we don't have the ball.
   I am surprised that can't be in our technical reference book the modern coaches swallow.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Prez on March 21, 2023, 10:28:45 pm
Did Crawley really have 15 shots to our 2?

Jesus wept that cant be true. Wtf is happening here.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ForsolongaRover on March 21, 2023, 10:34:19 pm
That was awful!

Just as you think they couldn't possibly get any worse.....

1 shot; no corners; no attacking intent; totally 2nd best to a team 22nd in the league who, in terms of quality, looked exactly like a team in 22nd in the league.

Unless something changes Rovers are going to be in a relegation dogfight next season.

And what's even more worrying is there is simply no fight in this team whatsoever.

As you rightly observe there was no “fight” at all tonight, so they would have to up their game even to conduct a “dogfight” against relegation! Onwards and downwards…
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: normal rules on March 21, 2023, 10:38:19 pm
Not good stats
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Campsall rover on March 21, 2023, 10:40:08 pm
No we only had 1 attempt at goal in 100 mins of football.
Do not know where the BBC got 2 from.

That was appalling tonight a total shambles.
But the process is working every one so don’t worry the future is bright!!!

DS must go after that.
If he had any dignity he would resign.

Embarrassing, no other word.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: StocksArmy on March 21, 2023, 10:41:19 pm
That was awful!

Just as you think they couldn't possibly get any worse.....

1 shot; no corners; no attacking intent; totally 2nd best to a team 22nd in the league who, in terms of quality, looked exactly like a team in 22nd in the league.

Unless something changes Rovers are going to be in a relegation dogfight next season.

And what's even more worrying is there is simply no fight in this team whatsoever.

There is no fight in the club which is most worrying.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Bessie Red on March 21, 2023, 11:15:07 pm
  I am beginning to think we have a complete idiot on our hands to be honest, I cannot for the life of me see any gain in bringing Faulkner off his loan at Spennymoor where he would have been playing in a game tonight to sit on the bench at Crawley.
 He has totally undermined that lads progress and reputation, could well have cost this club thousands of pounds in his valuation, and is driving the lad away from his home town club who he always wanted to play for.
  You reap what you sow.


Yep doesn’t look like a smart person with that move. Not sure what Faulkner gets out of coming on at 60min.

He has to go before the season is out. Expectations are dangerously low as they are if he sees this season out continuing like this the ticket sales will plummet
Agree, if you're bringing him back, put him straight in and allow Tommy Rowe to move into midfield alongside Close & Ravenhill and leave one of Hurst or Molyneux out.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Campsall rover on March 21, 2023, 11:29:18 pm
Tommy Rowe was awful when he moved into midfield after Ravenhill went off last 20 mins.
Ravenhill was also awful.

Don’t think TR has got the legs any more.

Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Bessie Red on March 21, 2023, 11:46:27 pm
Tommy Rowe was awful when he moved into midfield after Ravenhill went off last 20 mins.
Ravenhill was also awful.

Don’t think TR has got the legs any more.


I don't disagree, but he has more chance of affecting the game in his natural midfield position than at centre back.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 22, 2023, 12:39:03 am
The board need to find someone else to takeover from them, it needs new ideas, it has all gone stale under them for quite a while.
Thank you for everything you’ve done and all that, but with owners who want to get up the leagues we could do a lot better.
I understand those sort of people don’t grow on trees. I think the time has come for them to be looking at it.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: roversdude on March 22, 2023, 01:47:28 am
Burton away was the worst I had seen Rovers play and it ultimately was the undoing of Wellens (yeah I know he held on a few more games) last night was on a par with that performance absolutely clueless I’m afraid. I’m not in favour of sacking managers for the sake of it but I’m struggling to see a way forward
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Chris Black come back on March 22, 2023, 06:10:07 am
Anyone left out there still talking about the play offs? Anyone?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on March 22, 2023, 06:18:41 am
Assume Copps watches the games? And Blunt? If they do I’d like to understand how they think it’ll be better next season with this guy in charge!?

Blind faith just like McSheffery. Give him the summer and come November we’ll be bottom half looking for a new manager with a bunch f players the new man won’t want.

Sort it decisively now for the sake of next season!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: ncRover on March 22, 2023, 06:24:13 am
Crawley were dominant, they had:

- More possession
- More shots on target
- More expected goals
- More corners
- More passes
- More accurate passes
- More duels won

Schofield said:

- The fans can be “proud of the point”
- “Can’t fault the effort and application”
- “They gave everything”

Our expected goals from open play was 0.0.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on March 22, 2023, 06:29:42 am
We need enthusiasm throughout the club, it’s severely lacking. Every game should be exciting to go and watch. We need a goalkeeper that opposition forwards don’t look forward to facing one on one. How many times did Neil Sullivan win one on ones for us when forwards got by our defence.

We need a couple of monster centre halves, who would kick anything in sight but can play a bit. Full backs that are intelligent enough to cover their centre back.
At least one ball winner. A midfielder that scored goals. Wingers that can cross a ball and finish.

Strikers that only think about scoring. And work ethic badly missing from our side.
We need a board that isn’t more bothered about winning every day with charities.

 A manager that draws you to games with his infectious personality. A good tactician but also a manager of men. We lack all of these, things we once had. Very sad.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: roversdude on March 22, 2023, 07:23:00 am
Crawley were dominant, they had:

- More possession
- More shots on target
- More expected goals
- More corners
- More passes
- More accurate passes
- More duels won

Schofield said:

- The fans can be “proud of the point”
- “Can’t fault the effort and application”
- “They gave everything”

Our expected goals from open play was 0.0.

The point wasn’t the issue - it was the performance I wasn’t proud of
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: VivaRovers on March 22, 2023, 09:30:35 am
Not sure about the 'there's no fight in the team' posts above, as the defenders last night really chucked themselves into it to make sure it didn't turn into a defeat.

But beyond that it really was absolutely abject.

Fanzine match report here for those who didn't make it (https://popularstandfanzine.com/2023/03/22/crawley-town-1-1-doncaster-rovers-250-word-match-report/)
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: i_ateallthepies on March 22, 2023, 09:52:23 am
Crawley were dominant, they had:

- More possession
- More shots on target
- More expected goals
- More corners
- More passes
- More accurate passes
- More duels won

Schofield said:

- The fans can be “proud of the point”
- “Can’t fault the effort and application”
- “They gave everything”

Our expected goals from open play was 0.0.

If he actually thinks that their application can't be faulted and that they gave everything then that alone warrants his sacking.  And as for 'the fans can be proud of the point' how about 'the fans should be amazed that we got a point'.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: normal rules on March 22, 2023, 12:00:29 pm
My lad says when hurst got subbed he walked round the pitch and didn’t even acknowledge the away fans and looked thoroughly pissed off
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: VivaRovers on March 22, 2023, 12:16:14 pm
My lad says when hurst got subbed he walked round the pitch and didn’t even acknowledge the away fans and looked thoroughly pissed off

He might not have realised their were Rovers fans in the seats, but he definitely did acknowledge the away fans behind the goal by returning their applause.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: roversdude on March 22, 2023, 12:42:26 pm
My lad says when hurst got subbed he walked round the pitch and didn’t even acknowledge the away fans and looked thoroughly pissed off

He might not have realised their were Rovers fans in the seats, but he definitely did acknowledge the away fans behind the goal by returning their applause.

Yeah noticed that from the seats - his confidence is shot. How we can keep playing the ball to him with his back to goal amazes me
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Crawley Town game
Post by: Campsall rover on March 22, 2023, 12:46:58 pm
My lad says when hurst got subbed he walked round the pitch and didn’t even acknowledge the away fans and looked thoroughly pissed off

He might not have realised their were Rovers fans in the seats, but he definitely did acknowledge the away fans behind the goal by returning their applause.

Yeah noticed that from the seats - his confidence is shot. How we can keep playing the ball to him with his back to goal amazes me
I am amazed he has signed a new contract with this manager in charge. He was GmS player.
I feel sorry for Hurst. A talented young player trying to make his way in the cut and thrust of league football.
This manager / coach is destroying him. Criminal