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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on March 27, 2023, 09:51:00 am
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A recurring fixture as both clubs mirror the sinking feeling of a slow death back into the struggles of what is now known as league two after both clubs have had better times and climbed up the leagues against the odds , and played some seasons above the level they normally play at.
After our once again poor display v a Northampton side who were not a lot better on the day we once again are at the point where we start to guess just what if anything is in the managements heads as to what players will represent our club in the next game up, something that could well be a TV game show as the fiddlers try to come up with a team that shows it has been coached, trained, and are a cohesive unit that knows what is expected of them to win a game of football, all things I for one have found difficult to recognise when watching them play, and I am a known happy clapper. Sitting behind the managers area during the game I often wonder just what gems of genius Schofield and his assistant discuss while posing like they are intelligent football men watching the game unfold in front of them, apart from throwing more lambs to the slaughter I find it difficult to imagine just what they might be thinking.
Well our technical players on the field once again gifted two goals away and three points mucking about as they are told to do doing things it is patently obvious they are incapable of doing but are told it is our identity, something I find it hard to argue with at the moment, if it was not so serious it would be laughable and is really.
So the age old question, who will be the fall guys this coming week? will we play our best defender Faulkner? or will he once again sit and watch the technical players drop B******S again and throw games away? Why is Schofield leaving him getting splinters in his backside when the players on the pitch are so inept? all valid questions.
Yes I am/was a happy clapper, I will be easily cohersed into what I have always been a die hard supporter, but what is happening before my eyes I am finding it difficult to swallow, all the problems are self inflicted we have people employed on the playing staff and in management that are way below the standard we require to be a credible league standard club, and as far as I can see are that pedantic in their train of thoughts, that we are progressing when it is so obvious we are definitely not the situation is worrying.
The club needs surgery both on and off the field, and a defined way forward recognised, and not at the board level who's moneys have been thrown away by others. That's my whinge for the day until the next game, Please have your say
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What chance have we got when this is his reaction to questions about changing the style??
Schofield said: "This is what I fully believe in and the players fully believe in it. I think if anyone internally doubts what we are trying to do, then there is a problem. Everyone is on board with what we are trying to do in trying to create something which is sustainable over a long period of time which can be challenging."
"Criticism is not easy to take and it is challenging and difficult. But I have my beliefs and can't come away from them and I’ll continue to work as hard as possible."
On the damning number of on-target attempts, he continued: "When it is factual, it is a concern."
FFS sack this lunatic NOW
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I used the word IDIOT but actually think LUNATIC is probably the word to use now.
The man is so utterly devoid of reality it’s frightening.
Got to go. Copps have the balls to do it. NOW.
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I know... how about 'Let's NOT talk about the Crew Alexander game'
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Arrogant beyond belief!!
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They are not worth talking about!
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Crewe are on a bad three three defeats on the trot. Let's hope we are not as generous hosts as normal.
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Crewe are on a bad three three defeats on the trot. Let's hope we are not as generous hosts as normal.
We’re very generous to teams that need a lift
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Is Nelson the latest out for the season, hopefully Brown is too
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Strange isn’t it how many players are suddenly getting injured.
Coincidence?
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Does anyone else think that if we played a back 4 that Olowu could fill in as a right back?
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Yes, and Faulkner his first game this season Bobby was brought on at right back but as the game went on moved more central. Whether that is the best position to play them I would not be so sure as they are our quickest defenders down the centre of the pitch.
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I’m opting for a scraped win in this.
A win that probably won’t be worthy of any sort of adulation or credit.
Like putting a sticking plaster on a leaking Hoover Dam.
Schofield will no doubt already be having nightmares about the prospect of a defeat.
And should rovers get beat by Crewe. Then any sort of criticism he has had up to now will be amplified x10.
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I’ve liked your post, NR, but I can’t see a win anywhere in our future. I’ll be happy to be proved wrong, of course.
DS has already said he’s sticking to whatever this ‘process’ is, so our nightmares end when we get rid of the process and the man who thought it up.
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I’ve liked your post, NR, but I can’t see a win anywhere in our future. I’ll be happy to be proved wrong, of course.
DS has already said he’s sticking to whatever this ‘process’ is, so our nightmares end when we get rid of the process and the man who thought it up.
I said with 9 games to go they get 7 points total. The Crewe game being three. I predict a Rare occasion were his process, whatever it is, gets lucky.
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Crewe are on a bad three three defeats on the trot. Let's hope we are not as generous hosts as normal.
There is your answer- 0-2 my prediction
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Don't know the extent of Lavery's injury but could be down to just Agard as our only attacking option. Think Crewe will be more than capable of beating us.
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Crewe will win and sadly I'm almost wanting them to with the hope it will speed up the end of Schofield.
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Arrogant beyond belief!!
If your remark is aimed me, Petche then you have misunderstood. In no way was I disrespecting Crewe, I have come close to saying it a couple of times recently irrespective of who the opposition was. Nothing more than an expression of frustration at trying to have meaningful discussion about our team's prospects each game given the dross repeatedly being served up.
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Strange isn’t it how many players are suddenly getting injured.
Coincidence?
I get a similar feeling. Know it’s harsh and probably not true but it seemed to happen last season too. As the rot fully took hold players with any injury became out for the season.
Probably more to do with the stage of the season but I certainly think a player once injured, with us playing like we are, won’t be rushing back to play again before preseason. I don’t blame the, either the place stinks. Imagine working there
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Someone on Here has touched on it already, but with the dry feb we had it has been alluded to that the eco power pitch is a little on the hard side. Is this a factor?
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The injuries will 100% be legitimate but the recovery time might slow down if you really don’t want to play in a toxic team.
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Arrogant beyond belief!!
If your remark is aimed me, Petche then you have misunderstood. In no way was I disrespecting Crewe, I have come close to saying it a couple of times recently irrespective of who the opposition was. Nothing more than an expression of frustration at trying to have meaningful discussion about our team's prospects each game given the dross repeatedly being served up.
My comment was aimed at our glorious manager!
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Wasn’t McSheffrey sacked after a defeat to Crewe?…
Fingers crossed everyone! :byebye:
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No, wellens was.
Schofields first game was against Crewe
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Someone on Here has touched on it already, but with the dry feb we had it has been alluded to that the eco power pitch is a little on the hard side. Is this a factor?
Probably had as many injuries away from home though
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Wasn’t McSheffrey sacked after a defeat to Crewe?…
Fingers crossed everyone! :byebye:
It was the appalling defeat at Carlisle that ended the McSheffrey reign.
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Think it was Richie after the Crewe game last year.
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The only hope of any uplift in interest of the supporters this club have to the end of the season is to pick young players coming through and see how they go.
It was the old way used to bring young players on in the past, Faulkner and Ravenhill should be picked on their last two performances anyway, Faulkner completely undermined again by Schofield ignoring him on the bench last weekend even after coming on at Crawley where he did well, and the club have lost out on a potential pot of money by poor handling of his playing situation, no business acumen added to lack of football nous, the complete opposite to the Peterborough way of building players up for sale, and just add it to ticket and bonus losses racked up this season in cup competitions, fading interest by supporters as the season has progressed and it's easy to see why the finances at the club are getting worse.
Flint and Goodman have had excellent seasons in the u18s a big step up but need looking at and with not a lot of talent in the defensive midfield and striker department would be no different to more seasoned players we have watched if they did struggle, everyone else has in those areas all season, and the main reason we sit in the table where we do.
If Kuleya can be recalled he is another we need to be looking at and if they were used we would at least have some enthusiasm and effort on show.
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We are desperate for an encouraging win and a better performance
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Gone for a draw but that’s only because Crewe are very poor.
We are well capable of losing this and habitually get teams out of form into form.
1-1 can’t see us winning this. No Miller, Lavery, Biggins, Lakin or Maxwell, Nelson and DS’s refusal to start Faulkner.
So persists with playing Rowe in a 3 at centre back.
So we play Close and Ravenhill in the centre midfield again do we?
Give me strength if it’s the same formation again this Saturday, think the season ticket I am reluctantly going to buy tomorrow may be returned on Monday morning.
Seriously cheesed off
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Surely he’s gone if we lose this… surely?!
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Surely he’s gone if we lose this… surely?!
Doesn’t look like it. We are building now for next season. Copps is sticking by him and his process by the sounds of it.
He may think that he will lose face if he admits he got it wrong. Well that is where I think he is wrong. Maybe Blunt won’t be amused because we would have to pay DS off.
Copps though imo would get the respect from the fans if he held his hand up, said he got it wrong and agreed we need an experienced Manager.
Will it happen? Not a chance. This shambles is going to rumble on i fear for sometime yet.
Just hope it’s not terminal for the club.
How bad has it got to get before someone smells the coffee?
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Who does anyone think we will beat in the last 8 games
Seriously can see 3 draws & 5 defeats. I really do.
Only 5/6 weeks ago i was talking about winning 6 of our last 8 games.
On paper that looked possible. Only Stevenage to play now in the current top 15 would you believe.
If we gad turned up at Salford and Crawley and at home to Cobblers and got 7 points instead of 1 believe it or not we would still be talking about the play offs.
Just how bad is this league then. How bad does it make us then. :facepalm:
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Although it is 9 games since Crewe won away if you look closer you will see that Ty hey have played teams in form and have never lost badly. The last three away have all been lost by a single goal - Gillingham, Northampton and Stevenage and in the last home game they scored 4 to beat Salford 4-3. They’ve also had a draw away at Sutton.
It will look bad if we lose and I don’t really care because the priority is to terminate DS and release the reasonably competent group of players trying to work his process from his coaching straitjacket.
Is it just me or are the players who have played least the most energetic? Seaman, Faulkner, Todd Miller and Barlow do much more chasing and challenging than the regular Schofielders.
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Campsall.
Three ‘moaning’ posts inside 30 minutes & that’s on this one thread alone!
Give your heart a rest man. We all know things are sh**e right now but I believe change for the better is just around the corner.
Stick with Copps. Stick with Gavin Baldwin.
They love this club as much as you & me. They’re working tirelessly day in day out to put ´things’ right.
Write this season off by all means. That’s understandable & totally acceptable. BUT, keep the faith. Don’t go down the path of ´We’re heading for the National League’ or ‘That’s it, no more season tickets for me!’.
You’re a Donny man & Rovers are your club, mine too for the same reason. I didn’t ‘pick them’, they ‘picked me’ because I wasn’t born in Bradford or Barcelona I was born in Dunscroft.
That’s it really.
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Tbf to him I think he’s a Leeds fan as well.
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Surely he’s gone if we lose this… surely?!
Doesn’t look like it. We are building now for next season. Copps is sticking by him and his process by the sounds of it.
He may think that he will lose face if he admits he got it wrong. Well that is where I think he is wrong. Maybe Blunt won’t be amused because we would have to pay DS off.
Copps though imo would get the respect from the fans if he held his hand up, said he got it wrong and agreed we need an experienced Manager.
Will it happen? Not a chance. This shambles is going to rumble on i fear for sometime yet.
Just hope it’s not terminal for the club.
How bad has it got to get before someone smells the coffee?
interesting little quote from Tommy Rowe today to cling to. When talking about the shite football being served up, “You can get bogged down thinking long term”. The first thing remotely resembling a little bit of dissent. Here’s hoping there’s more to come.
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Campsall.
Three ‘moaning’ posts inside 30 minutes & that’s on this one thread alone!
Give your heart a rest man. We all know things are sh**e right now but I believe change for the better is just around the corner.
Stick with Copps. Stick with Gavin Baldwin.
They love this club as much as you & me. They’re working tirelessly day in day out to put ´things’ right.
Write this season off by all means. That’s understandable & totally acceptable. BUT, keep the faith. Don’t go down the path of ´We’re heading for the National League’ or ‘That’s it, no more season tickets for me!’.
You’re a Donny man & Rovers are your club, mine too for the same reason. I didn’t ‘pick them’, they ‘picked me’ because I wasn’t born in Bradford or Barcelona I was born in Dunscroft.
That’s it really.
I was born and bred in Leeds. Supported Leeds United from age 7 in 1962 through to 1979
Hardly missed a home game at Elland Road for 18 seasons.
I came to work in Doncaster in 1974 aged 19 at Adwick Leisure centre. My mother had moved from Leeds to Harrogate and I lived there before moving to digs in Doncaster in 1975
When Leeds were away I decided to go and watch a 4th Div game at Belle Vue in early November 1975 v Reading.
Rovers were 7th I think and Reading 5th in the table ( if memory serves me well ) it was a 1-1 draw and I really enjoyed the game, the atmosphere at Belle Vue, it was very different to what I was brought up on at Elland Road. Gate was around 7.300 I think.
My 1st away game was the Spurs Qtr final of the League Cup in Dec 75
So while I continued to go to Elland Road for all home games I started watching Rovers every game when Leeds were away. Fell in love with Miller, Kitchen & Big Brendan. They were brilliant.
Then Billy Bremner gets the Rovers job in late Nov 1978.
Well that was it I was hooked. He had been my footballing God for the last 15 years.
So from 1979/80 season I only went to Belle Vue and visits to Elland Road were down to 2/3 games for next couple of seasons.
So I left a top flight club to support a 4th tier one. No one will ever call me a glory hunter.
So I have been a die hard Rovers fan for 45 yrs and a regular on the terraces of Belle Vue since 1975.
I always dreamt one day I would see them play in the 2nd tier and when that day came in May 2008 it was the happiest footballing day of my life. To see Rovers play Leeds at Wembley was something I couldn’t have contemplated. If I had been told in 1998 that would happen ten years later i would have marched that person down to the nearest asylum.
I always believed that DRFC could become an established 2nd tier club.
It’s a proper football town, now a City. It has a large population of over 300.000 inhabitants living within the borough.
The potential was always and still is there for DRFC to an achieve way beyond what it has achieved during the majority of its history.
So no I am not a local lad as was 19 before stepping foot onto it boundaries. I consider Doncaster to be my home City & after 48 yrs I think I have the right to do that.
So I am having a damn good moan. Yes I am. I think if we all sit back and say & or do nothing about the current demise of the football team then that will be allowed to continue.
Any football club is as only as good as its fans. No fans and the club is nothing.
If we care then we must show we care. Things will only change if the fans ensure that change will happen.
That’s what happened in 1998 when JR came in and saved our proud football club. Who was John Ryan.
He was a fan just like you and me.
My posts are getting longer. Sorry folks. :facepalm:
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I think that of all your posts Camps that’s my favourite- keep them coming!
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Surely he’s gone if we lose this… surely?!
Doesn’t look like it. We are building now for next season. Copps is sticking by him and his process by the sounds of it.
He may think that he will lose face if he admits he got it wrong. Well that is where I think he is wrong. Maybe Blunt won’t be amused because we would have to pay DS off.
Copps though imo would get the respect from the fans if he held his hand up, said he got it wrong and agreed we need an experienced Manager.
Will it happen? Not a chance. This shambles is going to rumble on i fear for sometime yet.
Just hope it’s not terminal for the club.
How bad has it got to get before someone smells the coffee?
interesting little quote from Tommy Rowe today to cling to. When talking about the shite football being served up, “You can get bogged down thinking long term”. The first thing remotely resembling a little bit of dissent. Here’s hoping there’s more to come.
I heard a whisper from someone who knows Tommy Rowe quite well and he says non of the players dare say anything to Schofield.
He is so blinkered to his process that he can’t see sideways. That sort of man management will only end in tears.
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Will DS hand be forced to move rowe further up the field? Probably not, but we have Faulkner and long who can deputise in his role and with the season over, why not give them league experience.
Move Rowe into CM and see if he can pull strings along side close. Now is the time to experiment and get set for next season.
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No chance Faulkner plays from the start. I think DS has made his mind up that he is not one of ‘his’ players and it would going against his process to play him.
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If Faulkner doesn’t get any starts and continues to warm the bench that potential couple of million quid that people were putting on his valuation to the club a few months ago will probably drop to a fiver.
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Equally as criminal, with no fit strikers, if goodman doesn't get some minutes on Saturday, DS needs shooting!!!
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Campsall.
Three ‘moaning’ posts inside 30 minutes & that’s on this one thread alone!
Give your heart a rest man. We all know things are sh**e right now but I believe change for the better is just around the corner.
Stick with Copps. Stick with Gavin Baldwin.
They love this club as much as you & me. They’re working tirelessly day in day out to put ´things’ right.
Write this season off by all means. That’s understandable & totally acceptable. BUT, keep the faith. Don’t go down the path of ´We’re heading for the National League’ or ‘That’s it, no more season tickets for me!’.
You’re a Donny man & Rovers are your club, mine too for the same reason. I didn’t ‘pick them’, they ‘picked me’ because I wasn’t born in Bradford or Barcelona I was born in Dunscroft.
That’s it really.
Interesting that you mention Baldwin. Every time I try to tie him into anything - like the failed "Business Plans" and broken promises - Silent Majority shoots me down by telling me he he has nothing to do with the football. Ironically SM mentions him from time to time as though he still does have involvement, so like so many things connected with our inside sources, it's all shrouded in the cloak of secrecy.
The much-vaunted fan involvement seems to apply only to a few individuals seemingly constrained one way or another from actually sharing their knowledge with the hoi polloi. They may represent us, but we do not know exactly how, and worse still, we do not know what they find out.
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The black bank is desperate for a new song. How about:
We’ve got chuffin Danny Schofield
I will be happy when he leaves
Shocking at the back
No one in attack
Rovers heading for the National League.
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Surely he’s gone if we lose this… surely?!
Doesn’t look like it. We are building now for next season. Copps is sticking by him and his process by the sounds of it.
He may think that he will lose face if he admits he got it wrong. Well that is where I think he is wrong. Maybe Blunt won’t be amused because we would have to pay DS off.
Copps though imo would get the respect from the fans if he held his hand up, said he got it wrong and agreed we need an experienced Manager.
Will it happen? Not a chance. This shambles is going to rumble on i fear for sometime yet.
Just hope it’s not terminal for the club.
How bad has it got to get before someone smells the coffee?
interesting little quote from Tommy Rowe today to cling to. When talking about the shite football being served up, “You can get bogged down thinking long term”. The first thing remotely resembling a little bit of dissent. Here’s hoping there’s more to come.
I heard a whisper from someone who knows Tommy Rowe quite well and he says non of the players dare say anything to Schofield.
He is so blinkered to his process that he can’t see sideways. That sort of man management will only end in tears.
if this I true, imagine being so f**king arrogant with absolutely nothing to back it up. His record speaks for itself.
Why would you want to be at a place where you’re disliked by the majority of the fan base and quite possibly the players also whilst serving up absolute crap week in week out? He’s not even attempted to endear himself to the fans. His lack of self awareness is breathtaking.
There’s not one positive thing that I can say he’s has brought to the table. Not one!! It’s there for all to see on a match day.
Those who are defending him can only be basing their opinions on a wing and a prayer.
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As bad as we are - and f**k me we are terrible - Crewe are a horror show, especially on the road.
They’ve won twice away all season and only Crawley have won fewer away games. Crewe have managed only 12 goals in 18 away league games this season, that’s exactly two-thirds of a goal each game. Only Gillingham have scored fewer away goals. If Crewe score tomorrow, they’ve massively exceeded their average this season. They last won away in mid-November.
More widely, they’ve won only 3 in their last 20 games (all at home), and have lost their last 3 games in a row, scoring only 1 goal (at the equally terrible Gillingham).
We are up against an absolutely dreadful side tomorrow.
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Yet they are above us in the form table :whistle:
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I'm sorry Camps, but all these I've heard that, a friend of mine says, someone close to the club has told me, my cousins best friend girlfriends brother knows someone who says they heard from someones uncle that his mate down the pub knows someone from the local chippie who has a friend who has a brother in law who has a contact at the club says.....
Gets right up my t!ts
Don't post before you are prepared to name your source if you can't / won't, don't post.
I did the same but in the end admitted that Sam Hird was giving insider info to my nephew who was a big friend of his
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As bad as we are - and f**k me we are terrible - Crewe are a horror show, especially on the road.
They’ve won twice away all season and only Crawley have won fewer away games. Crewe have managed only 12 goals in 18 away league games this season, that’s exactly two-thirds of a goal each game. Only Gillingham have scored fewer away goals. If Crewe score tomorrow, they’ve massively exceeded their average this season. They last won away in mid-November.
More widely, they’ve won only 3 in their last 20 games (all at home), and have lost their last 3 games in a row, scoring only 1 goal (at the equally terrible Gillingham).
We are up against an absolutely dreadful side tomorrow.
To describe Gillingham as “equally terrible” suggests that you have missed their massive revival since they changed owners. Overall, my conclusion from the same series of Crewe results was somewhat different from yours. This was based on the margin of defeats and the quality of their opponents. Having only seen the stats I do not have the appetite to seriously contest how bad they are, but they may defend better than Rovers can attack.
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This game will probably be the shittest game this weekend in the EFL.
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I heard a whisper from someone who knows George miller, that schofield is a great coach, all the players love him and they think we will be in the premier league within 5 years
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Northern premier league in 5 years is realistic.
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This game will probably be the shittest game this weekend in the EFL.
I’m almost looking forward to it lmao
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I heard a whisper from someone who knows George miller, that schofield is a great coach, all the players love him and they think we will be in the premier league within 5 years
Assuming that this is not an uncharacteristic wind-up Dickov’s, is this the someone who knows George Miller who thinks Schofield is a great coach or George Miller’s belief? Even the most super-optimistic life-long optimistic Rovers fans would regard progression to the Championship in the same period within the present infrastructure a near impossibility. Believe it or not, I have also actually met GM and it surprises me that he would say something like this.
Speaking generally, and going back over many years of hearing player interviews, I have never heard anyone of them say anything unsupportive of their boss.
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I'm sorry Camps, but all these I've heard that, a friend of mine says, someone close to the club has told me, my cousins best friend girlfriends brother knows someone who says they heard from someones uncle that his mate down the pub knows someone from the local chippie who has a friend who has a brother in law who has a contact at the club says.....
Gets right up my t!ts
Don't post before you are prepared to name your source if you can't / won't, don't post.
I did the same but in the end admitted that Sam Hird was giving insider info to my nephew who was a big friend of his
Well this person said that he knows TR and that’s what he told me last Saturday.
Now he could be lying but why should he lie. He sounded very genuine to me.
But the way the players are not playing for DS & the obvious lack of belief they have in what they are supposed to be doing, would add some credence to what he told me.
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I think we will win today but it will be our last win of the season.
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As bad as we are - and f**k me we are terrible - Crewe are a horror show, especially on the road.
They’ve won twice away all season and only Crawley have won fewer away games. Crewe have managed only 12 goals in 18 away league games this season, that’s exactly two-thirds of a goal each game. Only Gillingham have scored fewer away goals. If Crewe score tomorrow, they’ve massively exceeded their average this season. They last won away in mid-November.
More widely, they’ve won only 3 in their last 20 games (all at home), and have lost their last 3 games in a row, scoring only 1 goal (at the equally terrible Gillingham).
We are up against an absolutely dreadful side tomorrow.
"Doncaster Rovers 0-3 Crewe Alexandra"
Done in the voice of the bloke who does the official scores on the radio.
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I heard a whisper from someone who knows George miller, that schofield is a great coach, all the players love him and they think we will be in the premier league within 5 years
Very droll dickos. Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
You just carry on enjoying this SH.T show. Fill your boots.
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As bad as we are - and f**k me we are terrible - Crewe are a horror show, especially on the road.
They’ve won twice away all season and only Crawley have won fewer away games. Crewe have managed only 12 goals in 18 away league games this season, that’s exactly two-thirds of a goal each game. Only Gillingham have scored fewer away goals. If Crewe score tomorrow, they’ve massively exceeded their average this season. They last won away in mid-November.
More widely, they’ve won only 3 in their last 20 games (all at home), and have lost their last 3 games in a row, scoring only 1 goal (at the equally terrible Gillingham).
We are up against an absolutely dreadful side tomorrow.
To describe Gillingham as “equally terrible” suggests that you have missed their massive revival since they changed owners. Overall, my conclusion from the same series of Crewe results was somewhat different from yours. This was based on the margin of defeats and the quality of their opponents. Having only seen the stats I do not have the appetite to seriously contest how bad they are, but they may defend better than Rovers can attack.
You make a good point about Gillingham improving since the turn of the year, although their away form is still one of the very worst in the league and they are only 2 points difference from Crewe. I should also say that I’m not predicting that we would win necessarily just that statistically Crewe look terrible, especially on the road.
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We will lose today by all probability. Even if Crewe are awful we have too many injuries to key players. Don’t see how we score a goal let alone win. Agard is ok for a 10th cameo but he’ll not offer enough from the start.
Game will play out like many at home. Crewe sit back a bit at the start then surprised at how defensive and poor we are they’ll have some spells of easy possession, because we have 5 at the back, and before you know it they are camped in our half and nick a goal.
That pattern of play has been consistent for a while now going back to Wellens and GM.
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Yet they are above us in the form table :whistle:
In the last-six form table we are equal with five points from one win and two draws.
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We will beat these today.
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We will beat these today.
Who is going to score for us? Goodman hat trick?
Bet he doesn’t even start him. He will get 15 mins at the end when we are losing.
He will start Agard and swap them on 75 mins.
If he does anything different to that he will be doing something contrary to his master plan.
We can but hope but I am not holding my breath. He has publicly come out and said “he isn’t changing”
Lose today and he is still has this job at 9.00 am Monday then Blunt needs to explain to all of us why.
Copps I think is as piggy in the middle here and is in an impossible position.
Blunt is hiding behind Copps and is starting to look like the big bad wolf.
Oh no is isn’t, Oh yes he is. I think we have all known that for some time. The invisible chairman.
Only seen & heard twice a year by 300 people.
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I wouldn’t know him if he sat next to me Camps.
He is so anonymous.
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Nelson is back in today, which is great news. Both Agard and Goodman are on the bench though, so I don't know who is meant to be playing through the middle upfront. Maybe Molyneux? Should be a goal fest!
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No strikers starting today ffs
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going for the goalless draw ?
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No strikers starting today ffs
Any bets on how long into the game before we get beyond the half way line let alone the penalty area.
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Might as well have paid Agards contract up 6 months ago if he can’t start a game in this situation.
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To sum up this match I plead "never in the history of D.R.F.C. has a match been so irrelevant"
where's the fast forward button. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
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Watching this on Iplayer and finding it hard to understand how unbelievably crap we have become.
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This your first game this season Avsuptem?
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This your first game this season Avsuptem?
No, just the worst one.
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As bad as we are - and f**k me we are terrible - Crewe are a horror show, especially on the road.
They’ve won twice away all season and only Crawley have won fewer away games. Crewe have managed only 12 goals in 18 away league games this season, that’s exactly two-thirds of a goal each game. Only Gillingham have scored fewer away goals. If Crewe score tomorrow, they’ve massively exceeded their average this season. They last won away in mid-November.
More widely, they’ve won only 3 in their last 20 games (all at home), and have lost their last 3 games in a row, scoring only 1 goal (at the equally terrible Gillingham).
We are up against an absolutely dreadful side tomorrow.
"Doncaster Rovers 0-3 Crewe Alexandra"
Done in the voice of the bloke who does the official scores on the radio.
You may or may not have been joking but this is a possible score line. If it does happen, it will be the first time Crewe have scored 3 goals away from home in the league since 9 January 2021 - the best part of 2.5 years.
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As bad as we are - and f**k me we are terrible - Crewe are a horror show, especially on the road.
They’ve won twice away all season and only Crawley have won fewer away games. Crewe have managed only 12 goals in 18 away league games this season, that’s exactly two-thirds of a goal each game. Only Gillingham have scored fewer away goals. If Crewe score tomorrow, they’ve massively exceeded their average this season. They last won away in mid-November.
More widely, they’ve won only 3 in their last 20 games (all at home), and have lost their last 3 games in a row, scoring only 1 goal (at the equally terrible Gillingham).
We are up against an absolutely dreadful side tomorrow.
"Doncaster Rovers 0-3 Crewe Alexandra"
Done in the voice of the bloke who does the official scores on the radio.
You may or may not have been joking but this is a possible score line. If it does happen, it will be the first time Crewe have scored 3 goals away from home in the league since 9 January 2021 - the best part of 2.5 years.
A remotely competent side would have put 6 past us today. That really is a new low.
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today was a fixture that afforded a glimmer of hope.
i dread to think what a trip to stevenage will result in.
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As bad as we are - and f**k me we are terrible - Crewe are a horror show, especially on the road.
They’ve won twice away all season and only Crawley have won fewer away games. Crewe have managed only 12 goals in 18 away league games this season, that’s exactly two-thirds of a goal each game. Only Gillingham have scored fewer away goals. If Crewe score tomorrow, they’ve massively exceeded their average this season. They last won away in mid-November.
More widely, they’ve won only 3 in their last 20 games (all at home), and have lost their last 3 games in a row, scoring only 1 goal (at the equally terrible Gillingham).
We are up against an absolutely dreadful side tomorrow.
"Doncaster Rovers 0-3 Crewe Alexandra"
Done in the voice of the bloke who does the official scores on the radio.
You may or may not have been joking but this is a possible score line. If it does happen, it will be the first time Crewe have scored 3 goals away from home in the league since 9 January 2021 - the best part of 2.5 years.
Corrrr. I wasn't far off.
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That was a horrific performance and predictably, if someone on a bad run of form needs a turnaround result, we will always give it them. As we did today.
The only microscopic positive was that the second half was better than the first half. It’s all relative though and for 90 minutes we third best to a side that last like week, really not good.
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Goodman looked useful when he came on, put himself about and had a decent shot. I’m not sure what Agard must be thinking today though. If he was on the bench he must have had some degree of fitness, so not to even bring him on for the last 15 minutes is absolutely damning. He’s a senior player on presumably decent money but we don’t even give him 2 minutes in a game where we had no fit strikers other than a teenager making his league debut. An immense waste of money and entirely indicative of the colossal amounts of cash we have pissed away the last few seasons. Criminal.
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Might as well have paid Agards contract off months ago. Waste of time if he’s not getting a cameo. I don’t think he’d have changed anything but he’s worth a 20min spell
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To start Todd Miller as our striker & playing Molyneux & Hurst not sure where, and have 2 strikers on the bench just shows how out of his depth this coach is.
He is alarmingly clueless. Mind bogglingly so.
You would think he is being paid by the Russians to destroy us.
How can anyone be so arrogant to continue doing something that doesn’t work for so long. What sort of a mission is this man on?
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The DFP article on Schofield’s post match comments -
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/not-good-enough-danny-schofield-reacts-to-doncaster-rovers-home-defeat-to-crewe-4088963
… does not convince me (and not for the first time) that he can identify what exactly went wrong. He always generalises, giving the sort of comments which you might make if you did not even see the game.
Why does he not point to specifics which need sharpening up, incidents in the game that would illustrate where we might do better etc.?
What disturbs me is that this is not the first time that he has spoken like this, steering well wide of anything definitive.
We know that he is immutably wedded to his process and I wonder how well he can identify the tactical plan of the opposition and (more importantly) how to counter it. I don’t ever remember him going into what the opponents did which caused us a problem, and the fact is that we seem repeatedly to be allowing teams to have multiple shots without any effective defensive plan to stop them.
The press corps never seem to press him closely on these things. “What are you going to do about…?” If I were his employer I’d want to question him a lot more closely on these lines. Things are undoubtedly getting worse and worse, so does that not trouble Copps and Blunt?
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If it doesn’t trouble them then they shouldn’t be anywhere near this football club let alone Chairman & HoF
Surely he has to be sacked this weekend. What justification could either Blunt or Copps have for keeping him in this job even another day.
Dereliction of duty by the Chairman is what it would be if he is allowed to take training on Monday morning. If Copps wants DS to stay then his position is untenable and would he have to resign or be sacked also.
That would be a desperate way to see Copps association with DRFC end.
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We have to remember that Coppinger clearly also thought this squad that included signings commissioned by him could deliver his fantasy football
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https://twitter.com/crewealexfc/status/1642213532136615936?s=46&t=Uj9lS9cW2ksdznjWwHqrkQ
This will be every game next season if DS stays. Predictable. Easy.
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Might as well have paid Agards contract off months ago. Waste of time if he’s not getting a cameo. I don’t think he’d have changed anything but he’s worth a 20min spell
They tried to get rid of him in January. Sometimes though it's just not as simple as paying contract up, players have got to accept it. But if your putting him in squad you give him game time when he's only senior striker we have that's just ridiculous, we will probably be in a similar position in 12 months time with Lavery.
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Would any other manager survive this kind of football, against sides in the very bottom reaches of the football league, not a chance. There is no improvement since he took over, in fact we have regressed beyond belief.
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In the first half Crewe were ten times better than us in all aspects.
Their passing was better, their movement and link ups were better.
They put the ball into our box better, which wasn’t hard because we hardly got the ball into their box.
They had more attempts on goal.
They appeared to be more determined than us.
With a 2-0 lead they eased up a bit in the second half and appeared to be happy for us to have the ball because we weren’t hurting them.
We did eventually manage two goal attempts which forced their young keeper to make good saves but overall we didn’t really look like we could muster enough to beat them.
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https://twitter.com/crewealexfc/status/1642213532136615936?s=46&t=Uj9lS9cW2ksdznjWwHqrkQ
This will be every game next season if DS stays. Predictable. Easy.
Says it all doesn’t it. They knew exactly what to expect and had a plan to capitalise on our predictability. Just like every other team we play. We’re so one dimensional it’s not even funny any more.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
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To start Todd Miller as our striker & playing Molyneux & Hurst not sure where, and have 2 strikers on the bench just shows how out of his depth this coach is.
He is alarmingly clueless. Mind bogglingly so.
You would think he is being paid by the Russians to destroy us.
How can anyone be so arrogant to continue doing something that doesn’t work for so long. What sort of a mission is this man on?
Agard can't last more than 20 minutes. He's f**ked. You cannot start with him.
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The oppositions managers know hes out of his depth. The opposing fans know hes out of his depth. (Tranmere away laughing at us) Our fans certainly know hes out of his depth.
Trouble is does his mate know hes out of his depth?
Im not sure he does.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
Just embarrassment upon embarrassment. If opposition are saying this it just blows the current theory of keep doing it till it works out the water.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
Seems to me like he's praising his own players for executing their game plan.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
Just embarrassment upon embarrassment. If opposition are saying this it just blows the current theory of keep doing it till it works out the water.
Think we new that 3 months ago. :)
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I was having trouble getting the audio feed on iFollow yesterday with only a couple of minutes to go to kickoff and so switched to the away feed to see if they were broadcasting. I listened for a few seconds as their pair were speculating on the result, first one said Crewe to win 2-1 the second said Crewe to win 2-0. Perhaps that says more about how Rovers are viewed as a pushover across the wider football world presently that despite Crewe's own dire form and league position they felt a win to be comfortably within their grasp.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
Just embarrassment upon embarrassment. If opposition are saying this it just blows the current theory of keep doing it till it works out the water.
Think we new that 3 months ago. :)
But you’ve only taken this point of view over the last 3 weeks
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Reality is:
There is no spine in that team. Think back to successful Donny sides over the years... they have players who graft, leaders, and players who'll grab the game by the scruff of the neck.
There is no plan b for when like yesterday, the opposition has completely and clearly read our gameplan.
Players seem afraid to take a chance, and creative players seem so easily nulified most games.
Our defence and keepers distribution is so poor, building from the back is redundant.
The only games we'll win are against other managers equally as pigheaded as ours - and most managers will switch up and chop and change to reflect opposition threats.
DS needs to go, a new more pragmatic manager needs to be installed. Board need to stop dictating the style of play - if you aren't gonna properly fund it, it isn't going to properly work.
Over the summer new players who have the right attitude, temperment, and ambition need to be targeted. Quit just targeting academy cast offs - cast the net wider! Scotland, Ireland, heck the non league have more than enough of these types of players!
We don't need ball playing defenders - we need defenders who can defend first and foremost.
I realise all of the above sounds so negative, but after the past 2 years, we have to go back to basics to build the foundations to grow again.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
Just embarrassment upon embarrassment. If opposition are saying this it just blows the current theory of keep doing it till it works out the water.
Think we new that 3 months ago. :)
But you’ve only taken this point of view over the last 3 weeks
Really.
You are way out with that one dickos. Colchester A, Walsall H, Tranmere A, Mansfield A, Harrogate H
Sure I have missed a couple more. Don’t think I was too complimentary about DS after any of those games.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
Seems to me like he's praising his own players for executing their game plan.
That’s the way I understood him to be saying it.
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The Crewe managers words above should sound the death knell for Schofield. An opposition manager basically has called him clueless. "We were delighted that they put in place the game plan for us to win"
He's talking about his own players.
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To start Todd Miller as our striker & playing Molyneux & Hurst not sure where, and have 2 strikers on the bench just shows how out of his depth this coach is.
He is alarmingly clueless. Mind bogglingly so.
You would think he is being paid by the Russians to destroy us.
How can anyone be so arrogant to continue doing something that doesn’t work for so long. What sort of a mission is this man on?
Agard can't last more than 20 minutes. He's f**ked. You cannot start with him.
But isn't it nice for us to have put him in a nice pension plan, not unlike some of the other signings we have had,
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To start Todd Miller as our striker & playing Molyneux & Hurst not sure where, and have 2 strikers on the bench just shows how out of his depth this coach is.
He is alarmingly clueless. Mind bogglingly so.
You would think he is being paid by the Russians to destroy us.
How can anyone be so arrogant to continue doing something that doesn’t work for so long. What sort of a mission is this man on?
Agard can't last more than 20 minutes. He's f**ked. You cannot start with him.
But isn't it nice for us to have put him in a nice pension plan, not unlike some of the other signings we have had,
Bruce Dyer, Lee Tomlin, Lee Fowler, Alex Baptiste, Paul Taylor, Dany N'Guessan, Frazer Richardson spring to mind?
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James Harper, Richard Naylor, Robbie Blake.
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Darren Byfield, Quinton Fortune, Wayne Thomas