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Title: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Dabby on April 01, 2023, 02:24:36 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/HwCrxPP.jpg)

Danny Schofield makes two changes to his side.

Ben Nelson and Kyle Hurst both come in, while Tommy Rowe makes his 600th career appearance.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Prez on April 01, 2023, 02:26:39 pm
5-5-0 formation it is then.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Thorney on April 01, 2023, 02:29:21 pm
No start for westbrooke? No striker?

Let's see how much chances we create then
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Post by: ncRover on April 01, 2023, 02:33:04 pm
“Rovers will be playing 3 4 f*cking 3”
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: roversdude on April 01, 2023, 02:52:39 pm
Is Tommy playing up front ??
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 01, 2023, 02:58:35 pm
I've gotta say, considering we have pretty much nothing to play for this season, DS's total refusal to start Faulkner is bordering on absurd. To leave him on the bench in place of a loan player, it's just infuriating. Mindless. Like he's actively trying to annoy both our most promising homegrown player in years, and our already fed up fanbase at the same time. Do yourself a favour man...
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: keith79 on April 01, 2023, 02:58:46 pm
Left back
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 01, 2023, 03:05:46 pm
No start for westbrooke? No striker?

Let's see how much chances we create then

when does Ramadan end ?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Barmby Rover on April 01, 2023, 03:16:03 pm
5-5-0 formation it is then.

For all those midfielders, we still can't dominate possession.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 03:20:08 pm
Olowu off!!!!
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Post by: IDM on April 01, 2023, 03:22:56 pm
Olowu off!!!!

Substituted or sent off?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 03:23:35 pm
Injured, BF on..
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Scooter on April 01, 2023, 03:33:11 pm
1-0 Crewe
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Post by: ScillyRover on April 01, 2023, 03:33:50 pm
A shambles defensively again.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 03:33:54 pm
Farcical playing out from the back, Anderson, OG
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Post by: Batleyred on April 01, 2023, 03:34:40 pm
Pathetic the lot of them
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Post by: Scooter on April 01, 2023, 03:35:06 pm
The boos have started. Crewe deserve the lead. We have offered nothing. Again
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: ncRover on April 01, 2023, 03:37:05 pm
Crewe comms saying straight through the GK?

I’m sure DS will blame Faulkner somehow
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Batleyred on April 01, 2023, 03:37:38 pm
Came of Anderson
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Post by: ScillyRover on April 01, 2023, 03:39:04 pm
0-2
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Batleyred on April 01, 2023, 03:39:53 pm
He's got to go now
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 03:40:21 pm
More non sensical playing out from the back, results in an easy goal from a corner 2 nil, game over, when the frik will they learn league 2 players should not play it out from the back ffs
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: i_ateallthepies on April 01, 2023, 03:40:23 pm
40% possession, 0-2 down
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 01, 2023, 03:41:40 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 01, 2023, 03:42:05 pm
This continues this afternoon then DS as to go the board, owners must take action
Only the bottom 4 have lost more games and only 4 teams conceded more
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Donny Dub on April 01, 2023, 03:42:08 pm
0-2 !  Have Rovers had a single shot yet?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: ScillyRover on April 01, 2023, 03:42:22 pm
The boos are virtually continuous now.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: ncRover on April 01, 2023, 03:42:46 pm
Do his wages have to be paid if he walks I wonder?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Peebles Rover on April 01, 2023, 03:43:12 pm
Surely this is the nail in DS's coffin?  It's a horrible feeling hoping your team ship more goals to enforce a change at the club
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 01, 2023, 03:43:30 pm
Home against one of the worst sides in the league, 40 minutes in, and not even shot. This really is a low.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: ian1980 on April 01, 2023, 03:44:06 pm
Absolute joke
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Dabby on April 01, 2023, 03:45:03 pm
Something ,got to change same old, match after match .

Can we do something positive at the half-time break and sack Schofield.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: IDM on April 01, 2023, 03:45:15 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.

Agreed that those wearing the shirt should show some fight.

Not sure how well we can be expected to do with virtually a first team out injured.

Not defending him, but the manager is hardly to blame for the injuries, nor are the board.

DS is skating on very thin ice however.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 01, 2023, 03:47:56 pm
Do his wages have to be paid if he walks I wonder?
You’ve answered you’re own question he won’t walk not when he’s got 12 month wages to come.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: redarmi66 on April 01, 2023, 03:48:28 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.

Agreed that those wearing the shirt should show some fight.

Not sure how well we can be expected to do with virtually a first team out injured.

Not defending him, but the manager is hardly to blame for the injuries, nor are the board.

DS is skating on very thin ice however.

Problem is we have been abysmal without injuries too! Its not the injuries thats the problem
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Scooter on April 01, 2023, 03:48:57 pm
Can we sack him at half time?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 03:49:57 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.

Agreed that those wearing the shirt should show some fight.

Not sure how well we can be expected to do with virtually a first team out injured.

Not defending him, but the manager is hardly to blame for the injuries, nor are the board.

DS is skating on very thin ice however.
so you are defending him then?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: scawsby steve on April 01, 2023, 03:50:25 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.

Agreed that those wearing the shirt should show some fight.

Not sure how well we can be expected to do with virtually a first team out injured.

Not defending him, but the manager is hardly to blame for the injuries, nor are the board.

DS is skating on very thin ice however.

Stop making excuses, IDM. Every club has injuries. This sh*te has being going on for 2 years now.

The club deserves an empty f*cking stadium.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: bobbymax on April 01, 2023, 03:50:41 pm
Well if he's not gone tonight I really don't know what's going on
 Utter shambles!!!
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Fal on April 01, 2023, 03:52:06 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.

Agreed that those wearing the shirt should show some fight.

Not sure how well we can be expected to do with virtually a first team out injured.

Not defending him, but the manager is hardly to blame for the injuries, nor are the board.

DS is skating on very thin ice however.

Northampton are in the promotion places and have 12 players out injured….
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 01, 2023, 03:53:20 pm
If Westbrooke can’t start why did we sign him
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: IDM on April 01, 2023, 03:53:35 pm
We’ve had injuries all season.. never a settled side and poor management..

I’m not defending the manager, I did say he’s on very thin ice..  I don’t usually criticise too harshly but I wouldn’t be surprised nor disappointed if he’s gone by Monday.

So no, I’m not defending him nor making excuses.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 01, 2023, 03:55:00 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.

Agreed that those wearing the shirt should show some fight.

Not sure how well we can be expected to do with virtually a first team out injured.

Not defending him, but the manager is hardly to blame for the injuries, nor are the board.

DS is skating on very thin ice however.

We couldn’t score before all the injuries
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 01, 2023, 03:56:28 pm
Best we could get was a 0-0 as soon as that 1st went it it’s game over. Not helped by our injuries but with nothing to play for at least we could try and entertain.

Agreed that those wearing the shirt should show some fight.

Not sure how well we can be expected to do with virtually a first team out injured.

Not defending him, but the manager is hardly to blame for the injuries, nor are the board.

DS is skating on very thin ice however.

He is to blame for playing a system and style which doesn't seem to suit even one of the players in our team. Mindless playing out from the back with a GK and CBs who aren't good on the ball. Wingbacks who seem to have been told not to attack. Two in CM when none of our CMs have any bite or mobility. One striker when none of our strikers have the physicality to play up top alone. And wingers, the only position we seem to have genuine quality at this level, who seem so confused as to what their role is that they end up doing nothing at all. He's got to take some blame for that, no?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: anton123 on April 01, 2023, 03:56:55 pm
As it stands we are by far the worst team in the football league and I’m very worried for next season
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Post by: monkeytennis on April 01, 2023, 03:57:43 pm
Players couldn’t sprint off the pitch fast enough at half time.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 03:57:58 pm
We’ve had injuries all season.. never a settled side and poor management..

I’m not defending the manager, I did say he’s on very thin ice..  I don’t usually criticise too harshly but I wouldn’t be surprised nor disappointed if he’s gone by Monday.

So no, I’m not defending him nor making excuses.
the second you mentioned injuries is the same as defending him.  Both goals have come from the rediculous notion that we are able to play out from the back like man city. It's a farce, and puts us under pressure all the time. He never learns from things that are going disastriously wrong ffs 
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Lesonthewest on April 01, 2023, 03:58:18 pm
One shot on target in 45 minutes of absolute desolate football. Players going through the motions, no organisation, poor passing, no plan, players running around aimlessly, defense shambolic, & we want to give this absolute joke of a manager the summer?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: ScillyRover on April 01, 2023, 03:58:25 pm
If Westbrooke can’t start why did we sign him
I also think that Agard if lacking in many respects has a decent ability to hold the ball up and bring others into play. So why the hell has DS not started him today? Just totally puzzling.
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Post by: normal rules on April 01, 2023, 04:00:38 pm
is this an april fool?
ive been busy with other more important things today and just switched on the half times.
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Post by: monkeytennis on April 01, 2023, 04:01:48 pm
Well I certainly feel foolish turning up to watch so yes
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: ScillyRover on April 01, 2023, 04:03:09 pm
is this an april fool?
ive been busy with other more important things today and just switched on the half times.
Well, you’ve just missed the best 45 minutes of football this season. For Crewe that is :)
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 01, 2023, 04:05:13 pm
Enter Sandman has been a brilliant choice to come out to.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: IDM on April 01, 2023, 04:05:30 pm
So by expressing an opinion without extreme views or vociferously demanding his sacking, I’m defending him?

He’s failing, yes.  Of course injuries don’t help but if folks read my posts properly I did say the players should show some fight and surely that’s down to the manager?

A few games ago I did suggest the players weren’t giving their all for him.  Either way, it’s not working is it?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: anton123 on April 01, 2023, 04:05:48 pm
We may as well sack schofield tonight as we are going to loose every game til end of season and that’s not acceptable and impossible to brush under the carpet
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: les@donr on April 01, 2023, 04:08:09 pm
P45 and taxi for DS this evening.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Dabby on April 01, 2023, 04:09:00 pm
Substitution, Doncaster Rovers. Zain Westbrooke replaces Liam Ravenhill.

Substitution, Doncaster Rovers. Jack Goodman replaces Todd Miller.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 01, 2023, 04:15:39 pm
DS won’t be sacked. He should be but he won’t because he has the injury excuse now.

We all know it wouldn’t be much different with a full 11 . We never got near the opponents goal when we had strikers anyway. Glad I’m not trader again today. Can’t justify it and sounds like it’s another good decision
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Ronnie Dovers on April 01, 2023, 04:21:36 pm
I know it's irrelevant, but seeing Barnsley near the top of league one, 4-0 up with all goals scored by recent ex-Donny players is an extra kick in the nuts when we really don't need one.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Jersey Rover on April 01, 2023, 04:22:53 pm
We definitely need a manager in charge with a proven experience of leagues 1 and 2.
It’s a totally different game plan at this level.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 04:23:23 pm
Worst team in 20 years, and after last season, that's saying something!!!
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: normal rules on April 01, 2023, 04:25:11 pm
todays game was one i had us penned to scrape a win. thats not looking likely. the 6 teams currently below rovers all have better gd and we still have to play three of them. and we also have to play the teams currently in 18th, 19th and 20th.
I can now see rovers finishing deep in the bottom half of the table come season end.
 
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: les@donr on April 01, 2023, 04:27:58 pm
I think that we will lose all our games until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 04:33:37 pm
I think that we will lose all our games until the end of the season.
if it means DS goes, then so be it..
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: normal rules on April 01, 2023, 04:35:55 pm
yep, rovers are safe. if its to be a complete and abject failure from now to season end, then ill take it, IF he goes as a result. it will be ugly. very ugly.
just how thick is his skin?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Filo on April 01, 2023, 04:36:30 pm
Schofield has to go after this!
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: adamtherover on April 01, 2023, 04:38:44 pm
Schofield has to go after this!
but what about the process…?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: normal rules on April 01, 2023, 04:43:17 pm
just 4 teams have a worse gd than rovers. thats very telling. gillingham and the bottom 3 teams.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 01, 2023, 04:45:30 pm
Gillingham have more points than anyone since January -- which shows how easy it is to "buy" this league
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: les@donr on April 01, 2023, 04:45:55 pm
The process is. The Board sack DS, it's that simple.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 01, 2023, 04:47:58 pm
Good news Kwame Thomas has scored Dundees 7th against the Scottish Doncaster Rovers (Hamilton)

as hartlepoll equalise late again
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Cramby10 on April 01, 2023, 04:48:13 pm
just 4 teams have a worse gd than rovers. thats very telling. gillingham and the bottom 3 teams.

in fact only 3 have. We have the fourth equal worst gd. Only 4 teams have lost more games than us also.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: scawsby steve on April 01, 2023, 04:48:27 pm
How empty is the stadium? How bad is the booing?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: scawsby steve on April 01, 2023, 04:51:52 pm
What's Westbrooke and Goodman looked like?
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on April 01, 2023, 04:52:19 pm
Why would you not play to the strengths of what you have? You play the style of football you believe in when you have the players capable of doing it. He can’t last much longer in the job.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: normal rules on April 01, 2023, 04:53:47 pm
just 4 teams have a worse gd than rovers. thats very telling. gillingham and the bottom 3 teams.

in fact only 3 have. We have the fourth equal worst gd. Only 4 teams have lost more games than us also.

yep, gillinghams 82nd minute equaliser changed things
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 01, 2023, 04:54:24 pm
hartlepool 2 swindon 1

rochdale win as well
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: normal rules on April 01, 2023, 04:55:44 pm
in fact barrow just scored in 90+4 so my initial comment stands for now
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: normal rules on April 01, 2023, 04:57:30 pm
ft. i hope the faithful who spent good money watching that today made their feelings known at the end
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 01, 2023, 05:06:24 pm
Thought Goodman did well.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: KingKendrick on April 01, 2023, 05:47:22 pm
I thought the presence of Goodman up top was encouraging. Gave us something to go at. I don’t see any reason not to give him a few starts in the run in. Westbrooke for me has to start I assume the only reason so far is down to fitness levels but he doesn’t looked bogged down with the weight of the club like the rest of our players seem to at the minute he tried to make stuff happen at least
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: monkeytennis on April 01, 2023, 06:00:05 pm
Second half was brighter with more intent and energy. Goodman did well and Seaman/Molly seemed to link up well. Still got nothing to show for it though!

Quite hostile towards manager, board and players today. There’s no way anyone in that stadium didn’t hear it, it was loud and clear.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: glosterred on April 01, 2023, 06:03:30 pm
When you start a home game without a recognised striker on the pitch but you have two on the bench you know you are not going to get a glut of home goals. Then at half time you bring on an 18 year old striker and leave your experienced striker on the bench when 2-0 down, you know you’re not looking to win the game. And to cap a series of poor decisions you don’t bring him on at all you know the manager has lost plot and it’s time for them to go.

This season we’ve had two managers that haven’t had a clue as to what is need and more importantly what we, the fans, want.

After the Harrogate game I thought it couldn’t get any worse, I was wrong


COYR
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: drfchound on April 01, 2023, 09:05:50 pm
How empty is the stadium? How bad is the booing?

Probably about 4500 in SS and the booing in the first half was very loud and clear.
There was even a new Danny Schofield song.
The crowd has really turned on him now.
Oddly enough, there was hardly any booing in the second half.
I think it was because everyone was just too pissed off to be bothered.
Title: Re: Rovers v Crewe
Post by: donnybez on April 01, 2023, 11:27:23 pm
I sit in the West stand. The West Stand were 'disgruntled' with Gary McS at the end of his time... Today was so so so much lower than that.

Its rare the Westies join the south in chants but today, there were very vocal pockets appearing everywhere. Clear, angry, emotional sentiment everywhere.

In terms of the performance... Seaman, Faulkner, Nelson, & Goodman looked like they could be arsed.

Midfield once again might as well have not bothered showing up. Rowe looked poor, Molyneux looked to be trying but having nothing come off.

Mitchell received sarcastic jeers from his first save - which was ironically the same type he'd ballsed up the home game previous.

The players had zero confidence and low understanding of the system that they've been asked to play for some months now. Keeper's distribution negates any benefits of playing from the back - opposing strikers just press us back and by the time we've composed ourselves, the balls punched out of touch for the opposition to press us that much harder.

Players lose the ball and show about as much interest in winning it back as the likelihood of us winning any games this season.

BBC Radio Sheffield earlier commented on some fans exchange about Wednesdays decline where they called 3 shots on target in a game 'poor'..

3?!
3?!?!
What I wouldn't GIVE FOR 3 SHOTS IN A GAME!!!