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Title: Admit it...
Post by: Canadian Rover on April 12, 2023, 09:37:37 pm
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 12, 2023, 09:40:11 pm
Never want us to lose but sometimes you can say if we are going to lose anyway at least there’s a silver lining.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: jamesrover17 on April 12, 2023, 09:40:58 pm
I think we could loose every game from now til the end of the season and he will still get until October/November
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: scawsby steve on April 12, 2023, 09:48:55 pm
Put it this way. I no longer feel elated when we score, or dejected when we concede.

This team and manager have got me completely apathetic. It's time they were gone.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: jamesrover17 on April 12, 2023, 09:51:02 pm
Put it this way. I no longer feel elated when we score, or dejected when we concede.

This team and manager have got me completely apathetic. It's time they were gone.

I am the same, a friend of mine text me after the game on Monday to see if I had got over the loss… Totall apathetic was my response as well, which hurts more than having to be pulled of the roof after every loss!
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: mushRTID on April 12, 2023, 09:56:07 pm
Iv given up, I don’t feel anything at the minute. Barely flinched when Grimsby scored their winner, can’t be arsed.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 12, 2023, 10:10:29 pm
I think we could loose every game from now til the end of the season and he will still get until October/November

Which would put us in real danger of losing every game till October not just end of the season
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Rovers91 on April 12, 2023, 10:49:26 pm
I think we will lose every game apart from Walsall which will be 0-0 and 90mins of head tennis.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Cramby10 on April 12, 2023, 11:13:55 pm
I think we could loose every game from now til the end of the season and he will still get until October/November
I’ve sadly accepted this fate. I really feel it’s nailed on. Lunacy!
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: mpc123 on April 13, 2023, 03:20:30 am
Agree with all.
Bored, expecting defeat, makes no difference if we do lose.

A total opposite to the last 45 years.

We are in a big slump, TB shows the backing yet again and again it's going to be wasted.

Oh well carry on.

I just come on after work hoping every day DS is gone and we make a change for the better.

GM I was hoping since Feb, but I'm sadly to the point it isn't coming.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: ctay on April 13, 2023, 08:27:47 am
I get the feeling he wont be sacked if we lose 5-0 in every game until the end of the season. Believe the process....
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 13, 2023, 09:02:20 am
The problem is when such a vast majority feel one way to continue and ignore it blindly will cause fans to feel disenfranchised and lose connection.

It’s already happening and it’s not a case of fabs been fair weather because they will have gone years ago.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Campsall rover on April 13, 2023, 09:06:39 am
It’s beyond a joke.

Lose every game. That’s ok we don’t mind. It’s all part of your process.
Just carry on DS it will all come good in the end.

Only club in the EFL that rewards failure.



Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: ncRover on April 13, 2023, 09:17:58 am
It’s beyond a joke.

Lose every game. That’s ok we don’t mind. It’s all part of your process.
Just carry on DS it will all come good in the end.

Only club in the EFL that rewards failure.

Those who defended Solksjaer at Man U had a similar mindset and excuses.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: i_ateallthepies on April 13, 2023, 09:45:15 am
He won't be sacked before the end of the season, the club have only very recently stated publicly and in writing that he will be given the chance to strengthen the team for next season.  They would look really stupid to then sack him for performing the same as he did for months before their statement.
There may be merit in believing they might bin him at end of season if he doesn't improve results in the remaining games but I just can't see it happening before.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: southwestexile on April 13, 2023, 10:04:12 am
Hands up here to feeling numb too
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Upton Rover on April 13, 2023, 10:26:03 am
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
It sure has with me, a win and he’s the best thing since sliced bread
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: ravenrover on April 13, 2023, 10:59:43 am
Whilst I never want Rovers to lose the last few months have left me less bothered if we do.
Sadly, if that's the right word these days, Grimsby was my last match this season. My caravan will be ready to pick up from Poole next Weds after repairs and we will then spend a couple of weeks down in the West country.
So whilst I hope for the best results wise, perhaps the worst might bring about change
See you all in July for the friendlies
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: donnievic on April 13, 2023, 11:04:04 am
I hope we lose so Harrogate stay up,rather them then crawley or Colchester any day
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Lesonthewest on April 13, 2023, 11:32:23 am
Put it this way. I no longer feel elated when we score, or dejected when we concede.

This team and manager have got me completely apathetic. It's time they were gone.
First paragraph is me in a nutshell, & I don't like it one bit.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Lesonthewest on April 13, 2023, 11:36:21 am
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.


Hands up here.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Campsall rover on April 13, 2023, 12:31:36 pm
I hope we lose so Harrogate stay up,rather them then crawley or Colchester any day
I never ever want is to lose a match but if it means Harrogate stay up and DS gets sacked then I will gladly sacrifice 3 points.

We might need anther point or two to stay up if the bottom 4 keep picking up points as they are doing.
Well Rochdale can’t catch us bit the others can mathematically.
Never thought I would be saying that with 5 games to play.  Quite unbelievable to be where we are in what is a very average to poor League. Most of it is poor.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: ravenrover on April 13, 2023, 01:11:10 pm
Hartlepool v Crawley to come, one or both have to drop points on that game, if Crawley lost can only get to 50 points, would still mean both winning remaining games and improving goal difference
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Ye-Aul-Tavern on April 13, 2023, 01:30:13 pm
The "who cares if we win or lose" feeling that so many of us have is due to the fact we've had nothing to play for for a good while now. We never really  threatened the play off contenders and thankfully picked up enough points earlier in the season to keep us clear of the drop zone.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Michael Shaw on April 13, 2023, 02:55:44 pm
I lost interest in the club when we sunk into league two and it's only got worse as the season has gone on. I don't very often visit this site these days. I have followed Rovers since the early 70s but have rarely felt this disconnected. 
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: In the box on April 13, 2023, 03:13:36 pm
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
The 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: silent majority on April 13, 2023, 03:46:50 pm
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
!! The the 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!

That's a bit of an assumption isn't it?

Not only that you think it's just 3 or 4 people but also that they think he's doing a good job.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: jamesrover17 on April 13, 2023, 03:51:47 pm
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
!! The the 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!

That's a bit of an assumption isn't it?

Not only that you think it's just 3 or 4 people but also that they think he's doing a good job.


I don't believe for one minute anyone with even a little bit of footballing knowledge looks at our team and thinks 'oh he's doing a good job with these players'

That and sacking him is two different things though.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: silent majority on April 13, 2023, 04:02:46 pm
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
!! The the 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!

That's a bit of an assumption isn't it?

Not only that you think it's just 3 or 4 people but also that they think he's doing a good job.


I don't believe for one minute anyone with even a little bit of footballing knowledge looks at our team and thinks 'oh he's doing a good job with these players'

That and sacking him is two different things though.

That's my point entirely, I haven't spoken to anyone in the club who's enjoying the current situation.

We have 5 games left, lets see what DS can do with the young lads, it's an opportunity to give them valuable experience.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: roversontheup on April 13, 2023, 04:17:20 pm
I could never want Rovers to lose but I now go to every match thinking that’s what we will do. In all my years supporting Rovers and that’s a lot of years and a lot of bad seasons, I have never felt so flat about going to a match. I feel as though I’ve been ground down by the boring and shocking football on show. Like others I no longer feel elated when (if) we score but what really hurts is that I scarcely feel any emotion when the opposition score.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Cramby10 on April 13, 2023, 05:06:03 pm
I could never want Rovers to lose but I now go to every match thinking that’s what we will do. In all my years supporting Rovers and that’s a lot of years and a lot of bad seasons, I have never felt so flat about going to a match. I feel as though I’ve been ground down by the boring and shocking football on show. Like others I no longer feel elated when (if) we score but what really hurts is that I scarcely feel any emotion when the opposition score.
I was like this quite some time ago. The last game I saw, we actually won, but I felt nothing. Couldn’t raise a cheer when we scored. The game was f**king awful, we were f**king awful and I came away totally numb.
But now, I’m angry, I’m angry that it’s come to this. I’m angry that this f**king muppet is being allowed to continue to run amok with our club. I want him gone. I want him gone now!
Some may say calm down. But at least it’s proven one thing to myself that I still do care about Rovers and the apathy isn’t permanent.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 13, 2023, 05:19:53 pm
Hartlepool v Crawley to come, one or both have to drop points on that game, if Crawley lost can only get to 50 points, would still mean both winning remaining games and improving goal difference
It would be a disgrace to drop that far so we avoided relegation by 1/2 points. That would show how far this club as fallen. I appreciate we have injuries but losing 63 games out of 110 played since DM left shows how bad the decision making as been. If we lose the next 5 as well it would be as bad or nearly as the Richardson era
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: ravenrover on April 13, 2023, 05:35:54 pm
Statistically we could end up 3rd bottom, very unlikely though???
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: drfchound on April 13, 2023, 06:32:30 pm
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
!! The the 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!

That's a bit of an assumption isn't it?

Not only that you think it's just 3 or 4 people but also that they think he's doing a good job.

That is interesting SM.
Also, back to the OP, I never want us to lose as it always ruined my weekend in the past.
However in recent times I have been very indifferent when we have lost.
In fact I am going to games and expecting us to lose.
I said when we had ten games left that I doubted we would win any of them.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: normal rules on April 13, 2023, 08:35:36 pm
Schofield has caused more division amongst the supporters of this club since the Richardson era IMHO. Not necessarily him as a person. But what he stands for . Inexperienced. Stubborn. Blind. Failing.
This division is destroying us.
And for that reason he has to go.
No one person is bigger than the club. 

Id be happy for Rovers to lose every single game IF it expedited his removal from DRFC.
He isnt a SOD
He will never be a SOD, or a DF for that matter.
He is everything DRFC dont need right now
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 13, 2023, 08:46:15 pm
It’s disenfranchisement. Fans don’t feel the connection anymore because the club is so wide of their hopes and standards for so long.

Take the decision, if this is the decision, to keep DS this summer. It’s so wide of the mark of what the extraordinary majority of fan’s believe (I don’t think so many have agreed before) that people struggle to identify with it. How can I support something that goes against my own beliefs so directly.

This is probably a over dramatic way of putting it but what I’m trying to say makes sense in my head!
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 13, 2023, 08:55:05 pm
Shall we all just pen November in for the inevitable and then pen December in for Chad Gribble to become manager. Then repeat
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: normal rules on April 13, 2023, 09:07:49 pm
The decision , if we can call it that, to stick with DS for the summer is in some ways admirable. but only for misty eyed reasons. I have grave concerns that this is Copps' call. Because if he walked now/ got sacked now, then it raises a very big question mark over Copps integrity. DS is his man. He brought him to the club. There must be behind the scenes assurances being made that DS will come good with his process. And the board must be buying into it.
Now, if by some utter miracle he turned this around, "roy of the rovers" style, than i will be one of the first to hold my hands up and admit they were right and i was wrong.
But i have very, very big concerns that the colours that are being nailed to the mast regarding the management of the playing staff  are about to burn to the ground. Probably around 10 games into next season. And this will compound the supporter bases frustrations even more.
"We told you so" will ring loudly around the eco power stadium, for those thick skinned enough to still turn up ( i dont even like calling it the eco power!)
DS wont come good. He will go. Sooner rather than later. Copps rep as a HOF will be in tatters. And worst still TB will have probably thrown a considerable amount of cash down the proverbial shithole.
ive always told my kids that the most valuable commodity in life is time. time for football clubs is precious. every season a club gets time to prove themselves. thrive, survive or fail in a finite amount of time.
rovers have not thrived for some time now. we are now barely surviving. and im not talking about finances.
can anyone other than coppinger and the board honestly think rovers will thrive next year with DS ?
at best, at very best, im going for survival if DS stays. it could be abject failure though and i find it incredulous that the board and copps are willing to take this gamble.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: ncRover on April 13, 2023, 09:48:42 pm
If we scrape a win v Harrogate that's the pressure off him until October so I'm not going to spend the £10 on ifollow as I don't know what I want.

If we suffer Harrogate Town doing the double over us (on top of the last few months) and he still remains then there is something frankly disturbing going on.

Perhaps Copps has visions of himself recieving praise and adulation for not sacking DS in a fantasy imaginary realm where it finally pays off.

Like NR has said above, keeping DS with the financial backing is the gamble. A been there done that manager with the financial backing is not.

Feels like the No votes are ticking up because people feel sorry for DS, and so do I. But other people's careers are also impacted by him staying if our club continues to decline.
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Retdon1 on April 13, 2023, 11:44:24 pm
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
!! The the 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!

That's a bit of an assumption isn't it?

Not only that you think it's just 3 or 4 people but also that they think he's doing a good job.


If that was true then we would currently be looking for a new manger
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: Cramby10 on April 14, 2023, 08:22:04 am
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
!! The the 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!

That's a bit of an assumption isn't it?

Not only that you think it's just 3 or 4 people but also that they think he's doing a good job.

call me slow on the uptake but is this your way of hinting that something is imminent?
Title: Re: Admit it...
Post by: ncRover on April 14, 2023, 08:49:39 am
To those of you that have thought it.

You hope we lose on Saturday so it convinces the board to not have Danny Schofield in charge next season.

Go on..has the thought crossed your mind?

Me I'm a believer that I want us to win every game every time unconditionally...but wouldn't judge those that think otherwise.
There are only three or four people at the club who think Schofield must be doing ok
!! The the 5-6-or7 thousands supporters do not !! But it’s the minority who rule !!

That's a bit of an assumption isn't it?

Not only that you think it's just 3 or 4 people but also that they think he's doing a good job.

call me slow on the uptake but is this your way of hinting that something is imminent?

i think SM's 2nd post as a follow up to this hints towards some sort of end-of-season review