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Title: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Canadian Rover on April 15, 2023, 10:03:58 pm
Then in my opinion you can write the next season off before a ball is kicked. His refusal to change to a back four from the start is ridiculous and 5-2-2-1 is boring and unless we had much much higher level players than the opposition will not (and has not) work in this division.

I enjoy the possession based game and playing the ball from the back. But I'm also a believer in not having the central midfield overloaded and having the centre forward isolated over and over again. And Danny won't go away from this.

His fundamentals are fundamentally wrong!! His use of players and rotations are a joke too. Why flog Agard again? He'll be knackered ahead of Tuesday and likely out the side again.

IF we keep this manager in place for the next season - the significant funds are gonna wasted be at mid table (at best) and likely fighting relegation.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Branton Red on April 15, 2023, 10:06:06 pm
Unfortunately I agree completely
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 15, 2023, 10:13:17 pm
I think we’ll be better than we are now for sure. We might even challenge for the playoffs.

But the way DS wants us to play will always means we give away stupid goals. And his substitutions and generally having only one plan will limit our points total. So even with more money we could build a shit hot squad and under achieve. We might win a lot more games but coming 5th when you should finish 1st is still poor.

In that situation I don’t think the board would remove him and that’s the danger. Getting stuck with him long term just scraping enough wins to keep us within touching distance but never actually convincing that we will get there.

To be fair I thought this was starting to happen with McSheffery but the club seem much more behind DS for some reason
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: dickos1 on April 15, 2023, 10:24:57 pm
It’s not been boring in plenty of games this season though.
Today wasn’t boring,
There’s been quite a few games when it’s worked but I too think he’ll Change systems next season
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Canadian Rover on April 15, 2023, 10:36:17 pm
It’s not been boring in plenty of games this season though.
Today wasn’t boring,
There’s been quite a few games when it’s worked but I too think he’ll Change systems next season

Dickos - how you can defend his performances as non boring. I appreciate your alternate viewpoint and opinion but it now feels as you are trolling (or are Danny's agent)
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Retdon1 on April 15, 2023, 10:41:36 pm
It’s not been boring in plenty of games this season though.
Today wasn’t boring,
There’s been quite a few games when it’s worked but I too think he’ll Change systems next season

You’ve been watching the wrong team then. Under DS I can only think of Grimsby away and Stevenage at home where we have actually played well and it’s been entertaining.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: dickos1 on April 15, 2023, 10:42:35 pm
Schofield certainly doesn’t overload the central midfield. That’s one of the weaknesses of the team we often get overrun in the middle of the park as we’re a man short
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: roversdude on April 15, 2023, 10:44:50 pm
Dickos agree it has worked but overall I can’t defend the way we are playing
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: BradwellRover on April 15, 2023, 11:48:55 pm
It’s not been boring, for opposition fans.

It’s been consistently shite for any DRFC fans though.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Upton Rover on April 17, 2023, 06:57:09 am
Same old defensive comments are boring
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: ncRover on April 17, 2023, 07:00:22 am
Am I correct in saying that the only decent sides we’ve beaten under Schofield in 29 games have been Barrow and Carlisle?

And all season it appears that the only side we’ve so far done the double over is Rochdale (and that took some doing in the home fixture).
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Campsall rover on April 17, 2023, 09:06:10 am
It’s not been boring in plenty of games this season though.
Today wasn’t boring,
There’s been quite a few games when it’s worked but I too think he’ll Change systems next season
Why hasn’t he changed it this season. It’s mind bogglingly obvious he needed to change it with the players he has at his disposal.
If he is so inflexible and stubborn then what’s going to change. 

As has been said I seriously fear next season will be no better than this one. It could be even worse.

He has to go. Sorry we have gone past the point of no return with him. 

Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Campsall rover on April 17, 2023, 09:20:59 am
Am I correct in saying that the only decent sides we’ve beaten under Schofield in 29 games have been Barrow and Carlisle?

And all season it appears that the only side we’ve so far done the double over is Rochdale (and that took some doing in the home fixture).
I don’t even think Barrow are that decent ncRover.  No disrespect to Barrow but they have done way way better than expected.
Yes they are better than us. The league table doesn’t lie after 42 games.

But how many decent sides are there in this league?  That’s what makes our shocking performances totally unacceptable.
We are supposed to be a big club in this league and are becoming a laughing stock.
Other clubs have no fear playing us we are so easy to work out.  It’s quite simply unacceptable.

Action needed. DS must go along with his side kick Gribble. 
We need a proper Manager & assistant/coach and we need one within the next 4 weeks.
If it doesn’t happen we are in big trouble.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: ncRover on April 17, 2023, 09:46:30 am
Am I correct in saying that the only decent sides we’ve beaten under Schofield in 29 games have been Barrow and Carlisle?

And all season it appears that the only side we’ve so far done the double over is Rochdale (and that took some doing in the home fixture).
I don’t even think Barrow are that decent ncRover.  No disrespect to Barrow but they have done way way better than expected.
Yes they are better than us. The league table doesn’t lie after 42 games.

But how many decent sides are there in this league?  That’s what makes our shocking performances totally unacceptable.
We are supposed to be a big club in this league and are becoming a laughing stock.
Other clubs have no fear playing us we are so easy to work out.  It’s quite simply unacceptable.

Action needed. DS must go along with his side kick Gribble. 
We need a proper Manager & assistant/coach and we need one within the next 4 weeks.
If it doesn’t happen we are in big trouble.

I know wages do the talking at this level but our reputation is fast declining.

If a Bradford / Salford type club match our wage offer to a free agent, I know who I’d choose if I was a player.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on April 17, 2023, 09:47:59 am
The club will lose a lot of money by retaining him, they will lose season ticket holders guaranteed funds plus the floating supporters as well. Yes they will lose out paying up his contract but when you consider that he is not capable of getting us promoted, we will lose out that way as well.

The right thing to do, is do it now, give a new manager the chance to take over and have a head start. The board need to stop dithering let him go and get the right manager in within the next week or so. None of that messing about then deciding the cheapest option is the right option. We need someone ambitious who wants funding to compete with other clubs, not a yes man. I think there are a lot of those around the club that’s why nothing is getting done.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Prez on April 17, 2023, 02:56:27 pm
I said only 2 week ago that i didnt think DS would be here at the start of next season.

Ive changed my mind. With everything going on i didnt realise that there are now just 4 games left.

You would thought if the club wanted rid they would have done so by now, and got a new manager in to assess the squad over the last few games and then identify the players he wants. Sounds like Copps and DS are already doing that now, and if thats the case then to sack DS at the end of the season would not make sense IMHO.

Looks indeed like DS will be here in August at the very least.

Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 17, 2023, 03:28:55 pm
It’s not been boring in plenty of games this season though.
Today wasn’t boring,
There’s been quite a few games when it’s worked but I too think he’ll Change systems next season
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And no doubt you believe he has the very system which he can draw from his vast fund of coaching experience which he can actually make work in the real world. And by “working” I don’t think that has always extended to actually winning games, so will we just be admiring a new process?
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: danumdon on April 17, 2023, 04:21:45 pm
It’s not been boring in plenty of games this season though.
Today wasn’t boring,
There’s been quite a few games when it’s worked but I too think he’ll Change systems next season
m

And no doubt you believe he has the very system which he can draw from his vast fund of coaching experience which he can actually make work in the real world. And by “working” I don’t think that has always extended to actually winning games, so will we just be admiring a new process?


See this is the thing.

Under what illusion is DS that his system is so bulletproof that he will consider no alteration whatsoever?

where is the proof that this system works?

Does he have prior accreditation and experience of his "process" working ?

What can he actually demonstrate to us that he is on the right track? have we all missed something here, is there an untapped store of knowledge that DS is ploughing to get to his model system?

I think we have all been taken for mugs by the club, we have in place a rookie head coach with an assistant who's experience adds up to nothing out of the ordinary, we have a HOF who is also a rookie in the role so in effect we have a deficit of coaching and managerial expertise in the club, by all accounts they have no intention of bringing in someone with "coaching and management experience"

This to me sets us up for more disappointment next season.

When i first started work my mentor told me that i will give you the benefit of my vast experience but i cannot give you experience per-say, you will have to go out and activity gain it through actually doing the tasks in hand. This always stuck with me because its very true, it doesn't matter who you are or how good you feel you are you cannot beat having the personal experience in any task in life, because without it you have no points of reference to fall back on.

What we are suffering from right now and unfortunately next season is a management group having to learn on the job, granted some extra investment in better players will make the job a little easier but if the fundamentals are missing then regardless of how much you throw at the situation it will never rectify if your starting with weak fundamentals.

To me the situation that we find ourselves in now is insurmountable with the current regime, they cannot find it in themselves to relieve us of a failing and struggling inflexible head coach or the HOF who has thrown all his chips on this and would also have to be relieved because of him choosing this failing route.

Unless we have some sort of divine intervention or the biggest stroke of luck ever we are royally screwed.

So another season of loss and turmoil to have to endure for long suffering ST holders, we wont be getting many pay at the gate under this regime.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: andyst79 on April 17, 2023, 04:24:27 pm
The atmosphere is toxic enough at present, can you imagine if he's backed in the transfer market pre season and we lose our first few games or something?!
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 17, 2023, 04:28:35 pm
The atmosphere is toxic enough at present, can you imagine if he's backed in the transfer market pre season and we lose our first few games or something?!
Unfortunately I can imagine, like a waking nightmare that won't end!
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 17, 2023, 04:46:41 pm
To be fair, SM has given us all reason to be hopeful with his comments on other threads. Or, at least, I’m hopeful that something happens, as we can’t carry on like we are.

I can’t imagine, for one second, that the Board think that everything is ok right now. It’s just whether TB thinks it’s just a lack of funds that’s the only problem!
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: drfchound on April 17, 2023, 05:46:04 pm
The atmosphere is toxic enough at present, can you imagine if he's backed in the transfer market pre season and we lose our first few games or something?!

I said this on here a few days ago.
I have no doubt though that some posters would then say we have to give him ten games to put his theories into practice and for the new players to gel.
If it is still not right after ten games it will be that we should give him until Christmas.
We have seen it before and it is likely to happen again.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: The Beast on April 17, 2023, 06:00:11 pm
I'm not a big DS fan and the football is tedious at best but don't you think every manager in every industry has to fail a bit before they learn how to succeed. Just throwing it out there.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: danumdon on April 17, 2023, 06:37:29 pm
I'm not a big DS fan and the football is tedious at best but don't you think every manager in every industry has to fail a bit before they learn how to succeed. Just throwing it out there.

Very true, the big question though is how long do you persist with the failing before you realise that lessons are not being heeded and the failing will continue, when is enough , enough?.

Blind faith can not endure forever, i'm thinking we want to see at last some evidence of progress, i don't care if we don't win another point this season, it doesn't matter in the bigger scheme of things now. What we as a fan base need to see is some evidence that whatever is being attempted is starting to take shape and we can see some signs of life.

Up to press we have seen very little to suggest he's on the right path and is learning from his failures.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 17, 2023, 06:55:04 pm
I'm not a big DS fan and the football is tedious at best but don't you think every manager in every industry has to fail a bit before they learn how to succeed. Just throwing it out there.
Hopefully not the motto for the national union of Pilots or Heart Surgeons!
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Boycie on April 17, 2023, 07:19:32 pm
I can't wait for this season to end, after watching the worst football on show it has been mind numbingly boring.
Every game seems to have been the same, make stupid defensive mistakes then watch our pathetic attempts to try to get back in the game.
My wife thinks i am mad to go every other week for zero entertainment and pay for the privilege.
I don't think Danny Schofield will be sacked, the board have now said he wasn't given enough funds to sign players who could play to his system, only time will tell if this proves to be correct.
It's a massive gamble to keep him as coach, if we continue with his failed systems I fear we will be relegated, I really hope i am wrong but look to next season with fear and trepidation.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: ravenrover on April 17, 2023, 08:01:53 pm
In his pre game comments he's still talking about the plans and players for next season....
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Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 18, 2023, 05:49:45 am
I genuinely think Coppinger is the one keeping him in a job right now. He'd have gone by now. In fact he probably wouldn't be in charge at all.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Avsuptem on April 18, 2023, 08:16:59 am
I have looked into my crystal ball.

We will scrape 2 wins before the end of this season. In the close season we sign a brick shithouse midfielder, a pacey young striker, a left back in the mould of James O'Connor and a centre half who is the reincarnation of Rob Jones. We draw our opening game of the new term against the promotion favorites and then win the next 4 games on the bounce. DS gets manager of the month award, we are 6 points clear at the top of the table by Christmas and Adey Barlow has already struck 10 into the old onion bag.

All calls for the sacking of DS on here are silenced, except for one [you know who you are].
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Metalmicky on April 18, 2023, 08:49:08 am
TBF, not all managers with little or no experience fail.  For instance Pep Guardiola, took his first managerial role with the Barcelona B reserve team in 2007. That was his only experience before he took charge of the Barcelona first team in 2008...... and in his first year he led them to win the treble, including La Liga, the Copa Del Rey and the Champions League.

OK, it is a weak comparison as PG and DS are managing in different solar systems, but it doesn't necessarily make managers with little experience necessarily bad...

Another good example is Steven Gerrard whose first managerial appointment was with Rangers in 2018, having only ever been in charge of the Liverpool U18 Youth team. Rangers were transformed by Gerrand, and in the 2020-2021 season, Rangers were unbeaten for the entire season and won their first Scottish Premiership title in ten years..
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: keith79 on April 18, 2023, 08:53:43 am
I fear some people in the know are warming to him. 
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 18, 2023, 10:01:50 am
I genuinely think Coppinger is the one keeping him in a job right now. He'd have gone by now. In fact he probably wouldn't be in charge at all.
Agree, Copps has completely shat the bed on this one - Legend as a player, needs his P45 as HoF - bringing in his mate and then refusing to accept the ongoing failures and keeping him in a job has ruined him for me. The 'consistency' argument only works if the HoF is credible and competent, and ours is not. 
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Canadian Rover on April 18, 2023, 10:17:34 am
We don't need or shouldn't want Copps gone. We will need (some) consistency on the football side. We can't expect for the players to be gone, manager to be gone, board to be gone, coaching staff to be gone, physio's and doctors to be gone. We've seen so much turnover in recent years it's a big part of the problem.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: ncRover on April 18, 2023, 10:20:39 am
My glass half-full crystal ball prediction:

We have a top 6 budget and have a decent transfer window for once.

We sign better players that do fit what DS is trying to do a bit better. We start reasonably strongly. We start to fade when teams work us out pre-game and in-game. We play some pretty stuff at times but come away from a lot of games saying "we didn't deserve to lose". We are then consistently hovering around 9/10/11th. Defenders of Schofield say the process is nearly there but we never seriously threaten and don't quite do poorly enough for the club to justify a change.

Repeat.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 18, 2023, 10:35:36 am
My glass half-full crystal ball prediction:

We have a top 6 budget and have a decent transfer window for once.

We sign better players that do fit what DS is trying to do a bit better. We start reasonably strongly. We start to fade when teams work us out pre-game and in-game. We play some pretty stuff at times but come away from a lot of games saying "we didn't deserve to lose". We are then consistently hovering around 9/10/11th. Defenders of Schofield say the process is nearly there but we never seriously threaten and don't quite do poorly enough for the club to justify a change.

Repeat.
Or... our inexperienced manager lacks the flexibility and tactical nous to improve a team on the slide, and with our inexperienced HoF they lack the connections to bring in players to implement his 'process', his process fails to deliver results in league 2 and we slide down the table in to a relegation dog-fight where the losing mentality of the club means we fall through the trap door in to the conference. The club continues to fail to listen to its customers and fan numbers continue to dwindle. Our aging owner / benefactor retires and no one wants to invest in a failing conference side with no fans, so we can't secure investment and continue to slide down the football league. Ask Scunny fans if you think that's fantasy.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: ForsolongaRover on April 18, 2023, 11:36:35 am
TBF, not all managers with little or no experience fail.  For instance Pep Guardiola, took his first managerial role with the Barcelona B reserve team in 2007. That was his only experience before he took charge of the Barcelona first team in 2008...... and in his first year he led them to win the treble, including La Liga, the Copa Del Rey and the Champions League.

OK, it is a weak comparison as PG and DS are managing in different solar systems, but it doesn't necessarily make managers with little experience necessarily bad...

Another good example is Steven Gerrard whose first managerial appointment was with Rangers in 2018, having only ever been in charge of the Liverpool U18 Youth team. Rangers were transformed by Gerrand, and in the 2020-2021 season, Rangers were unbeaten for the entire season and won their first Scottish Premiership title in ten years..

Has anyone advanced that as the main argument for ditching DS? I don’t think we’d be talking about inexperience if he were successful. The point is that you don’t appoint anyone to any job BECAUSE they are inexperienced.

Using the solar systems analogy emphasises the weakness of the comparators and surely that severely weakens your case. PG was known to and had demonstrated his ability within the Barcelona club. They were the ones taking the calculated risk.

Having acknowledged the weakness of the comparison, smoothly moving on to Gerrard is hardly another “good example”!
 
There is surely a direct read-across to Guardiola in that Schofield was Development Coach who was promoted to First Team Manager at Huddersfield where his tenure was cut short due to failure. So Schofield had already fallen short in identical circumstances to PG which ought to have conclusively shown that we should never have hired him.

You must question whether Copps, himself a newcomer to a managerial role, failed to look beyond the club whose structure he had studied in preparation for his own leadership role. He obviously got far too close there and his judgement was naive.  Why did the Board not examine his choice more objectively?

I like Copps, the man, but the club have become utterly insular recently and look where we are.


 
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 18, 2023, 12:41:53 pm
My glass half-full crystal ball prediction:

We have a top 6 budget and have a decent transfer window for once.

We sign better players that do fit what DS is trying to do a bit better. We start reasonably strongly. We start to fade when teams work us out pre-game and in-game. We play some pretty stuff at times but come away from a lot of games saying "we didn't deserve to lose". We are then consistently hovering around 9/10/11th. Defenders of Schofield say the process is nearly there but we never seriously threaten and don't quite do poorly enough for the club to justify a change.

Repeat.

This is how I see it if he does stay and gets backed in the market.

They’ll always be the deficiencies in how he wants us to play and his inflexibility. This will limit what can be achieved imo. We’d always be getting less than what “in theory” the budget is.

When he came in the hope was playoffs but accepted was get us playing something like a football team. Next season, for those who aren’t too dejected to care, the expectation is now minimum playoffs with a proper go at top 3. Pressure is on him and Copps.

Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: normal rules on April 18, 2023, 01:09:35 pm
My glass half-full crystal ball prediction:

We have a top 6 budget and have a decent transfer window for once.

We sign better players that do fit what DS is trying to do a bit better. We start reasonably strongly. We start to fade when teams work us out pre-game and in-game. We play some pretty stuff at times but come away from a lot of games saying "we didn't deserve to lose". We are then consistently hovering around 9/10/11th. Defenders of Schofield say the process is nearly there but we never seriously threaten and don't quite do poorly enough for the club to justify a change.

Repeat.

Reality.
Money will be spent on players in the summer that suits DS and Copps vision. But their vision and the reality of fighting to get out of lge two, and it is a fight, will be at odds with the players they acquire. Because they simply don’t have the experience or nous to turn this around in a single close season. Or perhaps two or three close seasons.
The headache from this season will continue into next. Just like last season did . I so hope I’m wrong.
Anything other than playoffs, as a minimum, next season will be seen as abject failure. Again.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 18, 2023, 01:37:09 pm
If DS is still in charge on Monday the 17th of May then the people in charge will have failed in their duties. If Copps doesn’t agree then he should go to. The worst thing for the club and its supporters is that DS and even Copps are still here at the start of next season. Whatever money TB is putting in extra needs to be spent wisely we have 14 contracted players including Taylor and Griffiths. We need extra quality adding to the squad players that will walk straight into the first team.
 


Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: ncRover on April 18, 2023, 01:56:16 pm
They are mostly correct with their in the know stuff.

https://twitter.com/thenettofc/status/1648247839842082816?s=46&t=Uj9lS9cW2ksdznjWwHqrkQ
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Campsall rover on April 18, 2023, 02:13:08 pm
If DS is still in charge on Monday the 17th of May then the people in charge will have failed in their duties. If Copps doesn’t agree then he should go to. The worst thing for the club and its supporters is that DS and even Copps are still here at the start of next season. Whatever money TB is putting in extra needs to be spent wisely we have 14 contracted players including Taylor and Griffiths. We need extra quality adding to the squad players that will walk straight into the first team.
17th May is a Wed Steve. It’s my birthday. 4th anniversary of that Charlton play off game. 4 yrs where has that gone?
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Metalmicky on April 18, 2023, 02:14:53 pm

Has anyone advanced that as the main argument for ditching DS? I don’t think we’d be talking about inexperience if he were successful. The point is that you don’t appoint anyone to any job BECAUSE they are inexperienced.

Using the solar systems analogy emphasises the weakness of the comparators and surely that severely weakens your case. PG was known to and had demonstrated his ability within the Barcelona club. They were the ones taking the calculated risk.

Having acknowledged the weakness of the comparison, smoothly moving on to Gerrard is hardly another “good example”!
 
There is surely a direct read-across to Guardiola in that Schofield was Development Coach who was promoted to First Team Manager at Huddersfield where his tenure was cut short due to failure. So Schofield had already fallen short in identical circumstances to PG which ought to have conclusively shown that we should never have hired him.

You must question whether Copps, himself a newcomer to a managerial role, failed to look beyond the club whose structure he had studied in preparation for his own leadership role. He obviously got far too close there and his judgement was naive.  Why did the Board not examine his choice more objectively?

I like Copps, the man, but the club have become utterly insular recently and look where we are.


 

You are over analysing my post and I am not making any CASE as you put it.  I was merely pointing out that experience isn't the be all and end all to a successful manager...... and many have been pointing to this as the reason for DS's poor performance to date..
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 18, 2023, 03:04:09 pm
Not totally accurate statement, as people on here have been talking about inexperience but that it’s only one of his weaknesses. There are quite a few!
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 18, 2023, 03:09:54 pm
If DS is still in charge on Monday the 17th of May then the people in charge will have failed in their duties. If Copps doesn’t agree then he should go to. The worst thing for the club and its supporters is that DS and even Copps are still here at the start of next season. Whatever money TB is putting in extra needs to be spent wisely we have 14 contracted players including Taylor and Griffiths. We need extra quality adding to the squad players that will walk straight into the first team.
17th May is a Wed Steve. It’s my birthday. 4th anniversary of that Charlton play off game. 4 yrs where has that gone?
Many happy returns for then he’s got two extra days then.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Spilsby Red on April 19, 2023, 08:32:17 am
Me and my son spoke over the weekend. Hopefully he will be sacked today. If he is in charge next season, we will watch local non league teams. It is a round journey of 4 hours. Sad to say this but not watching rubbish like that. At least local non league players try. Might not have great skill but will give it a go.  Our team doesn’t under this idiot. Unfortunately Copps who has been a legend is tarnishing his legend icon as well
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Pside on April 19, 2023, 10:20:37 am
I know of 7 that aren’t not renewing if he’s still here next season. Cash injection or not the football is just awful.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Campsall rover on April 19, 2023, 11:07:16 am
I know it’s only Football and no one has died.

Far worse things have happened.
I have lost 3 of my Rovers mates in the last 17 months.
2 others also who I would describe as acquaintances.

So perspective is needed I know.

But I am absolutely distraught this morning at what is happening or should I say not happening at the Football club am passionate about.

DRFC is not my family I know but it’s almost like a second family.
It is a huge part of my life and has been for 47 years and 5 months since my 1st visit to Belle Vue in Nov 75

To see the Playing side of the Club on such a downward spiral and nothing being done to arrest this slide is quite staggeringly negligent from the Clubs Chairman.

Throwing extra money at the playing budget is not going to change anything at all while we have a Head Coach who is so incompetent.

Stubborn, Blinkered, inflexible and yes he must also be extremely arrogant to do what he does with the playing formation and tactical plan game after game after game with the same outcome of failure.

He has shown last night once again he is incapable of changing anything or at least making some attempt to change things which just might bring about a positive outcome.

How on earth is this man still in the job after 1 win,3 draws, 9 defeats in 13 games.
His record before this 13 games was mediocre at best in a desperately average to very poor league.

If he had taken over at the beginning of this season we may now be looking at playing in the NL next season. 

Yet this morning he is still in his job.
What the F.CK is going on at our Football Club.

We must be and I have now said this 4 times, the only EFL club that would not have sacked the Manager or in our case Head Coach with such an alarmingly dire set of results and also appalling statistics ref chances created, shots attempted, shots on target and goals scored.

I am taking my season ticket for next season and my Grandsons ticket back to the ticket office for a refund, unless he is sacked by the day after our last game at Walsall.

I am now going to write a letter to David Blunt explaining why I am going to do this.
I suggest every single one of us who have purchased a season ticket does likewise.

No one is listening to the fans but believe me if they don’t start listening then the consequences for our Football Club are catastrophic.

Are we going to allow the demise to continue or are we going to do something about it.
We all have to act as one. It is the only way.



Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 19, 2023, 11:24:58 am
I know it’s only Football and no one has died.

Far worse things have happened.
I have lost 3 of my Rovers mates in the last 17 months.
2 others also who I would describe as acquaintances.

So perspective is needed I know.

But I am absolutely distraught this morning at what is happening or should I say not happening at the Football club am passionate about.

DRFC is not my family I know but it’s almost like a second family.
It is a huge part of my life and has been for 47 years and 5 months since my 1st visit to Belle Vue in Nov 75

To see the Playing side of the Club on such a downward spiral and nothing being done to arrest this slide is quite staggeringly negligent from the Clubs Chairman.

Throwing extra money at the playing budget is not going to change anything at all while we have a Head Coach who is so incompetent.

Stubborn, Blinkered, inflexible and yes he must also be extremely arrogant to do what he does with the playing formation and tactical plan game after game after game with the same outcome of failure.

He has shown last night once again he is incapable of changing anything or at least making some attempt to change things which just might bring about a positive outcome.

How on earth is this man still in the job after 1 win,3 draws, 9 defeats in 13 games.
His record before this 13 games was mediocre at best in a desperately average to very poor league.

If he had taken over at the beginning of this season we may now be looking at playing in the NL next season. 

Yet this morning he is still in his job.
What the F.CK is going on at our Football Club.

We must be and I have now said this 4 times, the only EFL club that would not have sacked the Manager or in our case Head Coach with such an alarmingly dire set of results and also appalling statistics ref chances created, shots attempted, shots on target and goals scored.

I am taking my season ticket for next season and my Grandsons ticket back to the ticket office for a refund, unless he is sacked by the day after our last game at Walsall.

I am now going to write a letter to David Blunt explaining why I am going to do this.
I suggest every single one of us who have purchased a season ticket does likewise.

No one is listening to the fans but believe me if they don’t start listening then the consequences for our Football Club are catastrophic.

Are we going to allow the demise to continue or are we going to do something about it.
We all have to act as one. It is the only way.
Excellent post, my thoughts entirely. We've been as clear as we can in our messages to the club and that falls on deaf ears. We have 3 STs, my two lads both have all three of this years kits, plus training tops, jackets etc, we travel home and away and it seems now the only way to express how we feel is to stop this financial and emotional support until something changes. 
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 19, 2023, 02:35:58 pm
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I am now going to write a letter to David Blunt explaining why I am going to do this.
I suggest every single one of us who have purchased a season ticket does likewise.

The guy you’re writing to, Camps, is part of the problem. I’m no different to you, mate, I went to my first game, aged 10, and now my 71st birthday is looming! I can’t put up with this circus much longer and I’m starting to wonder whether writing on here is a waste of time, never mind going to games (which I’m doing less and less as it’s too depressing).
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: drfchound on April 19, 2023, 02:42:10 pm
I think DS dropped a major bollick when he had a sly pop at the fans in one of his interviews a while back.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Canadian Rover on April 19, 2023, 02:43:44 pm
I think DS dropped a major bollick when he had a sly pop at the fans in one of his interviews a while back.

The whole Tom Anderson thing wasn't exactly handled well by the club either.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Lesonthewest on April 19, 2023, 03:08:28 pm
Another here that's had enough, 56 years of going to games but will attend not one more until he's gone.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: normal rules on April 19, 2023, 05:11:43 pm
Don’t Ruin our Football Club
DRFC
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Upton Rover on April 19, 2023, 05:36:53 pm
Another here that's had enough, 56 years of going to games but will attend not one more until he's gone.
Ditto
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: normal rules on April 19, 2023, 05:39:15 pm
Someone’s inbox needs filling with all those who are now refusing to attend . And why.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Upton Rover on April 19, 2023, 05:46:41 pm
I know it’s only Football and no one has died.

Far worse things have happened.
I have lost 3 of my Rovers mates in the last 17 months.
2 others also who I would describe as acquaintances.

So perspective is needed I know.

But I am absolutely distraught this morning at what is happening or should I say not happening at the Football club am passionate about.

DRFC is not my family I know but it’s almost like a second family.
It is a huge part of my life and has been for 47 years and 5 months since my 1st visit to Belle Vue in Nov 75

To see the Playing side of the Club on such a downward spiral and nothing being done to arrest this slide is quite staggeringly negligent from the Clubs Chairman.

Throwing extra money at the playing budget is not going to change anything at all while we have a Head Coach who is so incompetent.

Stubborn, Blinkered, inflexible and yes he must also be extremely arrogant to do what he does with the playing formation and tactical plan game after game after game with the same outcome of failure.

He has shown last night once again he is incapable of changing anything or at least making some attempt to change things which just might bring about a positive outcome.

How on earth is this man still in the job after 1 win,3 draws, 9 defeats in 13 games.
His record before this 13 games was mediocre at best in a desperately average to very poor league.

If he had taken over at the beginning of this season we may now be looking at playing in the NL next season. 

Yet this morning he is still in his job.
What the F.CK is going on at our Football Club.

We must be and I have now said this 4 times, the only EFL club that would not have sacked the Manager or in our case Head Coach with such an alarmingly dire set of results and also appalling statistics ref chances created, shots attempted, shots on target and goals scored.

I am taking my season ticket for next season and my Grandsons ticket back to the ticket office for a refund, unless he is sacked by the day after our last game at Walsall.

I am now going to write a letter to David Blunt explaining why I am going to do this.
I suggest every single one of us who have purchased a season ticket does likewise.

No one is listening to the fans but believe me if they don’t start listening then the consequences for our Football Club are catastrophic.

Are we going to allow the demise to continue or are we going to do something about it.
We all have to act as one. It is the only way.
Well put Campsall, however do you think Mr Blunt would even bother opening the letter(s) even if he does I doubt he would do anything. There’s so much stubbornness and stupidity going on at the club that it’s become normal to them running the club, and the loyal fans are simply not listened too, I like yourself will write that letter, shame one can’t be wrote on here and digitally signed by them that want to.
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 19, 2023, 07:19:32 pm
Everyone I know isn't renewing. People I know aren't even going now with STs it's so boring. All I would say is if they remove him from the role. The morning after I will be there buying regardless of early bird price. Please please please just end this nightmare
Title: Re: If Danny is in charge next season...
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 19, 2023, 10:10:47 pm
Club is neglecting the need of fans to 1 feel part of something they believe in and 2 been entertained.

While the phrase “customers” doesn’t belong in football fans also aren’t just a money tree for the club that will fruit every year come what may. There is a give and take even if it’s weighted massively in favour of the club.