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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on April 16, 2023, 01:06:46 am
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Not many will give us much of a chance of getting anything from this game against the third in the table side on Tuesday night who are led by Mr Evans, and a side that were miles ahead of us at the Eco Power Stadium earlier in the season, and on the face of it it could be a long sad journey home if we don't buck our ideas up.
At least we have started to show some improvement in the goal scoring area with Barlow showing some form in the last two games with two well taken goals and Molineux also getting in on the act. Agard has shown he has more about him than has been apparent earlier in the season, but we don't seem to be able to stop giving absolutely gifts of goals away at the other end, goalkeeper mistakes and air shots being regular ways of giving goals away in different games, and our next to non existent midfield give the edge of the penalty area away every game for shots in without a challenge that have resulted in goals all season, and an area Stevenage will look to have a shot from.
We can do very little to change the make up of the side, now we are mathematically safe would you bring in Flint and Anderson as subs? although getting changed like Goodman is not exactly bringing a young player through, they do need a bit of action in games to find out their true level and to get better, carting them about the country to watch a game sat on the bench is no good at all to Goodman or anyone else.
No doubt our young back line if they play as a three are going to get a first hand lesson in the dark arts of the game, which will do them no harm for the rest of their careers in the game but doesn't endear Mr Evans teams to supporters, and they will need our midfield to show up for a game for a change if we are to not get a thrashing, and Ravenhill will be targeted to ruffle him up for a sending off no doubt.
Would you change the keeper? as he is having a torrid error strewn period at the moment, I would.
All I am looking for now is to show some pride and fighting qualities, combined with a sign that we can actually get through a game without gifting goals away, not easy in this game, but if a team scores it would be nice to make them work hard for any reward, and the mid field that has been poor all season must work in front of the back line to make it more difficult for teams to play through them and keep the ball further up the field.
I really am not expecting much result wise, but we need to see improvement, and basically know the approach Stevenage will take into the game, their spoiling tactics and the pressure the officials will come under, and need to match their attitude, a big test for some of our youngsters.
What do you think? please have your say.
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They have the second highest home points total this season (one point behind Orient) and no side has won more home league games this season or scored more home league goals this season. Their recent form isn’t great though and since hammering Orient 3-0 at home in January, they have lost 3 of their 7 home league games and conceded in 6 of them.
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I can't see us getting anything from this game.
We did OK yesterday against relegation threatened Team till we were 2 0 up
Then threw away what should have been a possible winning lead so I am not confident that if we go 1 up v Stevenage we can hold that lead
And if we go one down I couldn't see us coming back to even scrape a draw
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Hope we lose by biggest margin ever
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Hope we lose by biggest margin ever
This is the kind of toxicity that’s been talked about on another thread.
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We should lose against a top team in the division with the amount of players out we now have. For DS it’s about how we play and how we lose. A fighting loss when we have a few chances would be an improvement
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Hope we lose by biggest margin ever
This is the kind of toxicity that’s been talked about on another thread.
Agreed Dickos but supporters are looking at the long term status of the club. In their opinion they fear Danny being in charge again next season. So whilst we may not agree with the opinions we should understand the viewpoints.
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Even with all the players available this would and will be a hard game. If we lose and I believe we will, can we really sit back and blame injuries. We’ve won 9 games under DS so let’s not get carried away that injuries are the problem.
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I can't see us getting anything from this game.
We did OK yesterday against relegation threatened Team till we were 2 0 up
Then threw away what should have been a possible winning lead so I am not confident that if we go 1 up v Stevenage we can hold that lead
And if we go one down I couldn't see us coming back to even scrape a draw
I think the more worrying thing is that the players don’t think we will hold on either.
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Hope we lose by biggest margin ever
This is the kind of toxicity that’s been talked about on another thread.
Agreed Dickos but supporters are looking at the long term status of the club. In their opinion they fear Danny being in charge again next season. So whilst we may not agree with the opinions we should understand the viewpoints.
I’m sorry, but I’ll never understand wanting your own club to lose a game.
It’s madness
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Hope we lose by biggest margin ever
This is the kind of toxicity that’s been talked about on another thread.
Agreed Dickos but supporters are looking at the long term status of the club. In their opinion they fear Danny being in charge again next season. So whilst we may not agree with the opinions we should understand the viewpoints.
It won’t be supporters wanting the club to lose that will see DS leaving. If the owner and others in charge haven’t decided already they never will.
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The result at Harrogate was a repeat of their last two results before that game, they came back the game before from a 2-0 deficit at Leyton Orient away and against us confirmed their fighting spirit.
Leyton are a far better team than us, so was the result so bad? I don't think so, and one I would have been more than happy with before the game.
Our biggest problem is highlighted above by Upton, people who know have a platform and are completely disconnected from the club, most of them hangers on, some decent supporters caught up with the emotions of their team being poor, Which I think Upton is, and results not what they expected at the start of the season.
But some are in my opinion supporters the club could do without and have crossed a line in personnel behaviour, putting other supporters at risk of being involved in things not of their making, and dragging the club into the gutter and just hide behind the fact that they can hide in numbers, would many be so insulting if they met the management members in a one on one situation? I very much doubt it.
The situation is fast becoming out of hand, is toxic, and is getting worse, and good people are being sucked into it that deserve better treatment than a baying mob.
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This is the sort of game where we should get back to the basics and aim to get a nil nil or nick a one nil win.
We should aim for a boring game.
We are incapable of the basics and the fans at this stage don't want a boring performance. It's a tough game at the wrong time for the club but won't effect our season.
A horrible fixture in an horrific atmosphere against a weasel of a manager.
I think I'll skip this game on Ifollow.
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The sun is out so I’m feeling positive. Pressure is all on Stevenage so I’m going for us to win 1-0! Molyneux to score
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My hopes for this game are about as high as Steve Evans’ bleep test score.
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This is the sort of game where we should get back to the basics and aim to get a nil nil or nick a one nil win.
We should aim for a boring game.
Yes I think this will almost certainly be Danny Schofield's approach - a boring game - based purely on 6 months of evidence.
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Rovers start well and fade second half
Basically it’s fitness……or lack of so whose job is that
Plenty of iPads but no ideas, it really isn’t rocket science just a game of football
Sitting back against Stevenage is pointless, get stuck in.
Why o why has Agard been left out, it’s the same as Bogle last year
A draw would be nice
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Rovers start well and fade second half
Basically it’s fitness……or lack of so whose job is that
Plenty of iPads but no ideas, it really isn’t rocket science just a game of football
Sitting back against Stevenage is pointless, get stuck in.
Why o why has Agard been left out, it’s the same as Bogle last year
A draw would be nice
Agard should have been playing up front with George Miller ( when GM was fit ) But no that would have been far too sensible for this Head Coach.
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Given we drew on Saturday when Harrogate went more direct and we could not cope with it. Let's hope SE doesn't go direct from the first minute.
Time to stand up and be counted.
If we get beat, again, we we get beat but lets stand up to them and give them a game.
I am playing football until 8:00 so hopefully there is still a contest by then.
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This is the sort of game where we should get back to the basics and aim to get a nil nil or nick a one nil win.
We should aim for a boring game.
We are incapable of the basics and the fans at this stage don't want a boring performance. It's a tough game at the wrong time for the club but won't effect our season.
A horrible fixture in an horrific atmosphere against a weasel of a manager.
I think I'll skip this game on Ifollow.
We are more than capable of producing a boring performance.
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Wouldn’t let Bradford warm up on the pitch or let them set up the GPS trackers for player information
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We don't need trackers for our midfield just a satellite position at kick off.
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They were one of the “favourites” for relegation pre-season I think, so that does not say much for the quality of their squad.
Could it be that Evans is a much more effective manager than DS?
Based on my fairly casual observations of his career, he has shown in nearly all the jobs he has done that he can create successful momentum quickly, the very opposite of the DS dogma.
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They were one of the “favourites” for relegation pre-season I think, so that does not say much for the quality of their squad.
Could it be that Evans is a much more effective manager than DS?
Based on my fairly casual observations of his career, he has shown in nearly all the jobs he has done that he can create successful momentum quickly, the very opposite of the DS dogma.
Quite simple really, FR. Evans has got promotions on his CV. DS has got f*ck all on his.
Yet some people on here are still defending him.
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I don't defend DS Steve, and I can't and will not defend Evans either, he should have been banned from football for life and should be nowhere near any team in the football league.
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Any fan who wants their own team to lose ….I’m genuinely lost for words.
Beam me up Scotty
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I don't defend DS Steve, and I can't and will not defend Evans either, he should have been banned from football for life and should be nowhere near any team in the football league.
Maybe he should, but he wasn't, and he'll be near our team tomorrow, that's for sure.
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Any fan who wants their own team to lose ….I’m genuinely lost for words.
Beam me up Scotty
Any club that keeps a manager who keeps losing games....I'm genuinely lost for words.
Beam me up Scotty.
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They were one of the “favourites” for relegation pre-season I think, so that does not say much for the quality of their squad.
Could it be that Evans is a much more effective manager than DS?
Based on my fairly casual observations of his career, he has shown in nearly all the jobs he has done that he can create successful momentum quickly, the very opposite of the DS dogma.
Quite simple really, FR. Evans has got promotions on his CV. DS has got f*ck all on his.
Yet some people on here are still defending him.
What a strange comment,
How many promotions had Evan’s got after only 6 months as a manager
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Well done, Dickos. You’ve underlined one of the reasons why DS should never been given the job.
Inexperience.
The fact that he’s got other ‘issues’ that have been discussed on the forum seem to have passed you by, but, at least, one of them has stuck. That is progress.
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Well done, Dickos. You’ve underlined one of the reasons why DS should never been given the job.
Inexperience.
The fact that he’s got other ‘issues’ that have been discussed on the forum seem to have passed you by, but, at least, one of them has stuck. That is progress.
Not really, if clubs only appointed managers with experience then arsenal wouldn’t be top of the prem, we would’ve never had the day out at stoke, Bournemouth wouldn’t be having such a great season in the prem,
It’s a very basic viewpoint to simply think managers are only any good if they’ve got experience
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Dickos: I don’t think you can claim DS has been a successful coach to suit his defence on one thread and then argue against the need for experience on another.
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Inexperience is ok as long as you show improvement over time. Unfortunately Danny hasn’t improved over the season, it has just got worse. Yes he has lost players to injury but the deterioration set in before we got injuries.
He has stuck dogmatically to a system, that doesn’t suit his players. He wants them to play a short passing game. I love that way of playing but you must have the players capable of doing it.
I don’t care what the board said, if there is no improvement before the end of the season, I fear for his future with us. I wanted it to work but it has been a disaster this season.
Rovers 7/1 to beat Stevenage if you things could change around.
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If we win tonight and Orient do the same then Richie’s team will be Champions.
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Hope we lose by biggest margin ever
This is the kind of toxicity that’s been talked about on another thread.
I suspect UR should have put a caveat on his comment. Such as “ IF it means it expedites the removal of DS”
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It’s not the passing game i am against.
Yes playing out from the back is madness though.
The problem is the 5-2-3 system.
1) We have 3 centre backs. Not Needed.
2) We have 2 central midfielders and the opposition almost always have 3 so we are outnumbered.
3) We play one central striker who isn’t physically strong enough to play that role.
He should have changed it to either 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2
It’s glaringly obvious to ( me anyway ) those formations would have much more chance of success with the players we currently have.
Nothing wrong with a passing game at all. We don’t have the players to play long ball do we? There is no big man up front to hold the ball up or win lots of headers.
We have got some decent technical footballers, so i do understand why he wants to play as he does but it is the formation that’s the problem imo.
If we are going to play a passing game you have to play at a much quicker tempo than we do. There has to be much more movement off the ball to play a passing game.
We need control in midfield. We have none when it’s constantly 2v3
We are quite obviously short of 3/4 players that would make us a top team in this league but there is absolutely no excuses for the dross that has been served up under this coach and the position in the league we are going to finish in this season.
None whatsoever.
The man is so blinkered, inflexible and stubborn sticking to a way of playing that doesn’t work it suggests to me that he doesn’t listen to others doesn’t learn from mistakes.
He is going to do it his way no matter what results it achieves.
That to me is beyond stupid. It’s madness. It will get the backs up of the players as well as supporters.
Players are not all stupid. They have opinions. If they are not listened to and are not comfortable in the way they are being asked to play then the result is exactly what we are seeing.
The man has to go.
This situation cannot be allowed to spill over into next season imo.
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Taking a big chance playing three at the back, if Danny does as I suspect, with the formation Stevenage play 4-1-2-1-2.
At wing back do you carry on with Molyneux and Seaman? Or does Brown come in on the right?
I don’t think we with the options we have that there will be many changes. Moving Molyneux further forward and playing safer with Brown and Seaman on the left could be one of the only changes.
Barlow you would think has to start. Agard for his experience.
Personally I think I would start with the side that started against Harrogate. Hope to get a lead in the game. Then start putting recognised full backs in. It could be dodgy at times. An inexperienced back line. One full back who is really a winger.
Can Agard hold onto the ball up there? We need him to. Westbrooke and Barlow need to perform. Ravenhill has to be disciplined in the midfield with Close.
You can expect our defenders and goalkeeper to be heavily tested. The midfield is going to have to work hard to keep the ball up the other end and protect the defence. At the prices offered we have a chance, but we are going to have to be very good for the full game to come away with a result. We shouldn’t be in this situation talking like Stevenage are Barcelona but that’s how poor we’ve been.
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It’s not the passing game i am against.
Yes playing out from the back is madness though.
The problem is the 5-2-3 system.
1) We have 3 centre backs. Not Needed.
2) We have 2 central midfielders and the opposition almost always have 3 so we are outnumbered.
3) We play one central striker who isn’t physically strong enough to play that role.
He should have changed it to either 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2
It’s glaringly obvious to ( me anyway ) those formations would have much more chance of success with the players we currently have.
Nothing wrong with a passing game at all. We don’t have the players to play long ball do we? There is no big man up front to hold the ball up or win lots of headers.
We have got some decent technical footballers, so i do understand why he wants to play as he does but it is the formation that’s the problem imo.
If we are going to play a passing game you have to play at a much quicker tempo than we do. There has to be much more movement off the ball to play a passing game.
We need control in midfield. We have none when it’s constantly 2v3
We are quite obviously short of 3/4 players that would make us a top team in this league but there is absolutely no excuses for the dross that has been served up under this coach and the position in the league we are going to finish in this season.
None whatsoever.
The man is so blinkered, inflexible and stubborn sticking to a way of playing that doesn’t work it suggests to me that he doesn’t listen to others doesn’t learn from mistakes.
He is going to do it his way no matter what results it achieves.
That to me is beyond stupid. It’s madness. It will get the backs up of the players as well as supporters.
Players are not all stupid. They have opinions. If they are not listened to and are not comfortable in the way they are being asked to play then the result is exactly what we are seeing.
The man has to go.
This situation cannot be allowed to spill over into next season imo.
And yet after Harrogate he claimed it was just key moments where we came up short and "Nothing too much tactically from my point of view" :headbang: Very worrying! It was obvious to everyone he needed to change something in that second half to get back some sort of control, yet did nothing!
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It’s not the passing game i am against.
Yes playing out from the back is madness though.
The problem is the 5-2-3 system.
1) We have 3 centre backs. Not Needed.
2) We have 2 central midfielders and the opposition almost always have 3 so we are outnumbered.
3) We play one central striker who isn’t physically strong enough to play that role.
He should have changed it to either 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2
It’s glaringly obvious to ( me anyway ) those formations would have much more chance of success with the players we currently have.
Nothing wrong with a passing game at all. We don’t have the players to play long ball do we? There is no big man up front to hold the ball up or win lots of headers.
We have got some decent technical footballers, so i do understand why he wants to play as he does but it is the formation that’s the problem imo.
If we are going to play a passing game you have to play at a much quicker tempo than we do. There has to be much more movement off the ball to play a passing game.
We need control in midfield. We have none when it’s constantly 2v3
We are quite obviously short of 3/4 players that would make us a top team in this league but there is absolutely no excuses for the dross that has been served up under this coach and the position in the league we are going to finish in this season.
None whatsoever.
The man is so blinkered, inflexible and stubborn sticking to a way of playing that doesn’t work it suggests to me that he doesn’t listen to others doesn’t learn from mistakes.
He is going to do it his way no matter what results it achieves.
That to me is beyond stupid. It’s madness. It will get the backs up of the players as well as supporters.
Players are not all stupid. They have opinions. If they are not listened to and are not comfortable in the way they are being asked to play then the result is exactly what we are seeing.
The man has to go.
This situation cannot be allowed to spill over into next season imo.
And yet after Harrogate he claimed it was just key moments where we came up short and "Nothing too much tactically from my point of view" :headbang: Very worrying! It was obvious to everyone he needed to change something in that second half to get back some sort of control, yet did nothing!
Absolutely.
He is so frighteningly tactically naive it’s beyond worrying.
We could see what what required on Saturday but he couldn’t.
He is the man with the coaching badges who has played the game as a professional in the EFL not us.
I am lost for words.
And Copps is going to stick with him. Seriously concerning.
And Blunt hasn’t got the inclination to see the big picture and do anything about it.
He can’t or refuses to see what we as supporters all see. Why? Does he think it will suddenly come good if another 1 million pound is thrown into the kitty. ( that figure is just off top of my head I have no idea what TB is putting in extra for next seasons playing budget. )
Does Blunt think people will buy season tickets if DS is still in charge of the team for next season?
Where is the vision from the Chairman. What does he seriously want for this football club?
We have heard nothing but sound bites from him. We need action, we need to see that the true vision for this club is what our supporters expect and deserve it to be.
We have no divine right to be a Championship Club, or even a League 1 club. No club does.
But we do expect our board to be making every possible effort to achieve the very best that this football club can be.
We need to see some serious ambition.
It’s time for action. Time is running out imo. Do we go up or do we go down even further to a place where we may never recover from.
Blunt over to you. We are waiting.
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It’s not the passing game i am against.
Yes playing out from the back is madness though.
The problem is the 5-2-3 system.
1) We have 3 centre backs. Not Needed.
2) We have 2 central midfielders and the opposition almost always have 3 so we are outnumbered.
3) We play one central striker who isn’t physically strong enough to play that role.
He should have changed it to either 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2
It’s glaringly obvious to ( me anyway ) those formations would have much more chance of success with the players we currently have.
Nothing wrong with a passing game at all. We don’t have the players to play long ball do we? There is no big man up front to hold the ball up or win lots of headers.
We have got some decent technical footballers, so i do understand why he wants to play as he does but it is the formation that’s the problem imo.
If we are going to play a passing game you have to play at a much quicker tempo than we do. There has to be much more movement off the ball to play a passing game.
We need control in midfield. We have none when it’s constantly 2v3
We are quite obviously short of 3/4 players that would make us a top team in this league but there is absolutely no excuses for the dross that has been served up under this coach and the position in the league we are going to finish in this season.
None whatsoever.
The man is so blinkered, inflexible and stubborn sticking to a way of playing that doesn’t work it suggests to me that he doesn’t listen to others doesn’t learn from mistakes.
He is going to do it his way no matter what results it achieves.
That to me is beyond stupid. It’s madness. It will get the backs up of the players as well as supporters.
Players are not all stupid. They have opinions. If they are not listened to and are not comfortable in the way they are being asked to play then the result is exactly what we are seeing.
The man has to go.
This situation cannot be allowed to spill over into next season imo.
I'm on the Facebook grassroots football page, and on numourous occasions I've read coaches saying howing they won't sacrifice their principles and philosophy to go all our for the win!! If they are going to win, it's gonna be the right way!!!! ,. Wtf,. 8 yr olds playing it out from the back, conceding goals left right and centre, cos pep on the sidelines tells them to do!! Madness!!!
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Our mid field have been disciplined all season, they have not done much, especially when not having the ball, in fact barely moved in the direction of the ball.
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I’ve had a look at orients goal scorers this season. Their top 7 all have minimum 35 games played each, to date.
Rovers are in desperate need of players that don’t get injured and can play week in week out.
I went to the orient away game. They were nothing special. But playing regularly I guess makes a big diff to performance and consistency.
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I’ve had a look at orients goal scorers this season. Their top 7 all have minimum 35 games played each, to date.
Rovers are in desperate need of players that don’t get injured and can play week in week out.
I went to the orient away game. They were nothing special. But playing regularly I guess makes a big diff to performance and consistency.
It does but there is more to it than that NR.
We have a coach who is out of his depth. He is not coaching the U18s now. It’s a different ball game. Literally.
It’s a results business and the sooner he wakes up to the reality of that the better. But the question is will he? Is he capable? We have seen no evidence.
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Right I am off to catch the Beehive Coach at Carcroft.
Love to come back with a smile on my face tonight but think we will do well to keep it to 3-0.
Up the Rovers. :rtid:
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Well everybody, here we go.
I'm taking my grandson Max Evans to his first Rovers match tonight.
(We live near St. Evenage)
Big shout out for Max please! :woohoo: :woohoo:
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I will pray for him.
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CBcb,
My grandson had a try-out at St. Evenage academy a year or so ago, so he keeps an eye on them. If you hear reports of an elderly Donny Supporter threatening to leave a sobbing young child by the side of the road after the game, that's me.
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What a wonderful occasion for you and max.
Character building as we used to say in the Army .
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It’s not the passing game i am against.
Yes playing out from the back is madness though.
The problem is the 5-2-3 system.
1) We have 3 centre backs. Not Needed.
2) We have 2 central midfielders and the opposition almost always have 3 so we are outnumbered.
3) We play one central striker who isn’t physically strong enough to play that role.
He should have changed it to either 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2
It’s glaringly obvious to ( me anyway ) those formations would have much more chance of success with the players we currently have.
Nothing wrong with a passing game at all. We don’t have the players to play long ball do we? There is no big man up front to hold the ball up or win lots of headers.
We have got some decent technical footballers, so i do understand why he wants to play as he does but it is the formation that’s the problem imo.
If we are going to play a passing game you have to play at a much quicker tempo than we do. There has to be much more movement off the ball to play a passing game.
We need control in midfield. We have none when it’s constantly 2v3
We are quite obviously short of 3/4 players that would make us a top team in this league but there is absolutely no excuses for the dross that has been served up under this coach and the position in the league we are going to finish in this season.
None whatsoever.
The man is so blinkered, inflexible and stubborn sticking to a way of playing that doesn’t work it suggests to me that he doesn’t listen to others doesn’t learn from mistakes.
He is going to do it his way no matter what results it achieves.
That to me is beyond stupid. It’s madness. It will get the backs up of the players as well as supporters.
Players are not all stupid. They have opinions. If they are not listened to and are not comfortable in the way they are being asked to play then the result is exactly what we are seeing.
The man has to go.
This situation cannot be allowed to spill over into next season imo.
And yet after Harrogate he claimed it was just key moments where we came up short and "Nothing too much tactically from my point of view" :headbang: Very worrying! It was obvious to everyone he needed to change something in that second half to get back some sort of control, yet did nothing!
I’m of the belief that anytime someone scores a goal that it is a key moment in the game.
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Well everybody, here we go.
I'm taking my grandson Max Evans to his first Rovers match tonight.
(We live near St. Evenage)
Big shout out for Max please! :woohoo: :woohoo:
keep your ears open pre-match I have just tried to get him a pre-match welcome mention
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CLH,
Thank you. Kind gesture, much appreciated. Welloffside
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What an abysmal first half that was from Rovers.
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Does this coach and team know that there’s a net and goal posts at each end of the pitch, and the idea is to have as many shots at that net so we score, almost halftime and I’ve switched player off
Shots- big fat zero
Shots on target - As above
Corners - big fat zero
First team coach rating - big fat zero
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Nobody in their right mind can defend the performances since DS took over.
He is nothing but terrible, with and without injuries.
Any other club he would have been got rid of sometime ago and I'd go as far as any other club in the position we was he wouldn't have even been looked at.
This performance as again as dull as the others.
We are nothing about of aweful
Nothing to do with the budget or players, it is DS.
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I can imagine the team talk before the game : now lads, this is one of the tallest teams in the league who like to play hoofball at its most direct. So we are going to counter that by playing them at their own game. Get it in the air as much as possible and, Agard, you’ll be on your own up there trying to beat those 6’7” & 6’4” defenders with no rovers player within 50 yards of you. Ok?? And do everything really slowly, they like to close players down but don’t worry about that, keep it nice and pedestrian. Go out there and bore them to death boys!
Here watching on iFollow they’re certainly doing that to me!! Ffs!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
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0-1 down, 30 mins to go and we’re 100/1 to win. Wow
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I’m trying to tempt fate here (I’d love to be proven wrong!) but it might as well be a million to one because to my eye we could play till this time tomorrow and not score two goals. :rolleyes:
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There was nothing whatsoever to enjoy about watching that game.
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That was one of the worst games of football I have ever seen. From both sides.
Question - do the guys wearing Rovers shirts actually train together because that looked like 11 strangers stuck out in a field - absolutely pathetic
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Any fan who wants their own team to lose ….I’m genuinely lost for words.
Beam me up Scotty
Any fan that keeps paying hard earned money to watch this first team tart (Rylan lookalike) needs help.
I’m genuinely lost for words
Beam me up Scotty
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Any fan who wants their own team to lose ….I’m genuinely lost for words.
Beam me up Scotty
Any fan that keeps paying hard earned money to watch this first team tart (Rylan lookalike) needs help.
I’m genuinely lost for words
Beam me up Scotty
That’s what a proper supporter does, he doesn’t just rock up when things are all rosy
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Any fan who wants their own team to lose ….I’m genuinely lost for words.
Beam me up Scotty
Any fan that keeps paying hard earned money to watch this first team tart (Rylan lookalike) needs help.
I’m genuinely lost for words
Beam me up Scotty
That’s what a proper supporter does, he doesn’t just rock up when things are all rosy
Nothing to do we Rosie, Dikos it’s about some inapt staff including the hof that doesn’t have a clue how to get the best out of the players available, this bunch of modern day Robin Hoods are clueless, I sooner give my money to a good charity, rather than watch this shit,your one of a few that love this setup your a day dream believer
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Ooh you cheeky little Monkee!
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I’ve just remembered something I saw in the Stevenage game.
An amazing burst of pace by Todd Miller.
He picked up a ball in our half and set off on a run in which he left several players in his wake.
He gave the last man about ten yards start, pushed the ball past him and left him for dead.
It was only the foresight of the Stevenage keeper that stopped him getting through one on one.
I don’t think I have ever seen a Rovers player run as fast.
Surprising that no one has mentioned it.
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I’ve just remembered something I saw in the Stevenage game.
An amazing burst of pace by Todd Miller.
He picked up a ball in our half and set off on a run in which he left several players in his wake.
He gave the last man about ten yards start, pushed the ball past him and left him for dead.
It was only the foresight of the Stevenage keeper that stopped him getting through one on one.
I don’t think I have ever seen a Rovers player run as fast.
Surprising that no one has mentioned it.
Surly if the keeper stopped him, he was 1 on 1?
Running fast is not the answer
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I’ve just remembered something I saw in the Stevenage game.
An amazing burst of pace by Todd Miller.
He picked up a ball in our half and set off on a run in which he left several players in his wake.
He gave the last man about ten yards start, pushed the ball past him and left him for dead.
It was only the foresight of the Stevenage keeper that stopped him getting through one on one.
I don’t think I have ever seen a Rovers player run as fast.
Surprising that no one has mentioned it.
Surly if the keeper stopped him, he was 1 on 1?
Running fast is not the answer
The keeper raced out of the box and belted the ball upfield.
Miller never had the ball at his feet after he went past the last defender.
I never said that running fast was the answer although I’m not sure what you thought it was the answer to.
I was just commenting on how unusually quick he was.
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I saw that. He basically lost control at one point. Good pace though yes.
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The main thing we need to get out of the last few games is improvement, now last night d efensively we played a lot bettermaking Stevenage play across the front of our back line, and only rarely did they get behind.
We were however poor going forward with no joined up play from back to front and lacked any serious threat to their defence in their area.
Williams and Faulkner had very good second halves. and the keeper was better than of late, Molineux and Brown worked hard, in front of them we had very little Goodman again did well with very little service.
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By the way how poorly supported were Stevenage to say they were pushing for automatic promotion. Had to chuckle when they sang “Everywhere we go” when they don’t really go anywhere
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It’s confusing how with our attendances and off the field revenue that was better than most in L1 we are so far off it. that’s why I can’t buy Copps comment about budget been lower than 10th. Unless every club in the league has a owner stumping up a couple of million a year…maybe they do but seems unlikely
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I’ve just remembered something I saw in the Stevenage game.
An amazing burst of pace by Todd Miller.
He picked up a ball in our half and set off on a run in which he left several players in his wake.
He gave the last man about ten yards start, pushed the ball past him and left him for dead.
It was only the foresight of the Stevenage keeper that stopped him getting through one on one.
I don’t think I have ever seen a Rovers player run as fast.
Surprising that no one has mentioned it.
I was looking at the floor hoping I hadn't lost my return bus Ticket , but in the same instance dreading 2.5 hours with my knees under my chin then 30 minutes more to home for what had been another very poor watch for Rovers fans
Seriously Hound yes I noticed. He was as fast as ...... well you know what.
It didn't come across as really noticeable as it would have been if we have been side on though
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I’ve just remembered something I saw in the Stevenage game.
An amazing burst of pace by Todd Miller.
He picked up a ball in our half and set off on a run in which he left several players in his wake.
He gave the last man about ten yards start, pushed the ball past him and left him for dead.
It was only the foresight of the Stevenage keeper that stopped him getting through one on one.
I don’t think I have ever seen a Rovers player run as fast.
Surprising that no one has mentioned it.
I was looking at the floor hoping I hadn't lost my return bus Ticket , but in the same instance dreading 2.5 hours with my knees under my chin then 30 minutes more to home for what had been another very poor watch for Rovers fans
Seriously Hound yes I noticed. He was as fast as ...... well you know what.
It didn't come across as really noticeable as it would have been if we have been side on though
Because it was so startlingly uncharacteristic of the usual ponderous style it stood out for me too - an unusual moment of excitement! Having seen it, you wonder if he would be praised for initiative or called out for stepping outside the process. It did remind you that under Moore for example, we have seen our teams successfully making use of pacy attacking. Oh for a bit more exciting football!
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5-3-2
Brown
Nelson
RSW
Long
Seaman
Rowe
Close
Ravenhill
Goodman
Todd Miller
Low block and try to hit them on the break with pace up top. I think defending in this way is a strength of Ro-Shaun. That’s what a flexible manager would do in this situation.
Can bring Hurst / Molyneux on for fresh legs up top.
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I’ve just remembered something I saw in the Stevenage game.
An amazing burst of pace by Todd Miller.
He picked up a ball in our half and set off on a run in which he left several players in his wake.
He gave the last man about ten yards start, pushed the ball past him and left him for dead.
It was only the foresight of the Stevenage keeper that stopped him getting through one on one.
I don’t think I have ever seen a Rovers player run as fast.
Surprising that no one has mentioned it.
I was looking at the floor hoping I hadn't lost my return bus Ticket , but in the same instance dreading 2.5 hours with my knees under my chin then 30 minutes more to home for what had been another very poor watch for Rovers fans
Seriously Hound yes I noticed. He was as fast as ...... well you know what.
It didn't come across as really noticeable as it would have been if we have been side on though
I think we were all shocked to see a player sprinting. Think about it... How much of our game do we see players really sprint?
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I thought it had the air of a manic JT sortie
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NCRover I will take you to task with that team, you have picked Long who had bad games at Harrogate and Stevenage and cost a goal at Harrogate, and Nelson who was hooked at half time after being mullered by a physical specimen playing up front by Stevenage who for 45 minutes owned him.
And Newport will be coming with a 13 stone lump of gristle hell bent on retribution after the way he was treated here in Omar Bogle.
The one player who matched the Stevenage physicality for 90 minutes was Bobby Faulkner, aided in the second half by Ro Shaun together keeping us in the game, and after Faulkner also played well at Harrogate.
I hope you just forgot him when picking the team, if not I hope you will excuse me if I think its just nuts.
I also see you left Barlow out after one no worse than anyone else in mid field game just two games after he scored two worldies and was MOM in the two previous games for a sprinter who otherwise never touched the ball, smacks of chucking the names up in the air and picking who lands first to me.
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I actually forgot Barlow but that’s probably because I just hate the current 5-2-3 shape Selby. If Barlow is on the pitch they will just default to that formation. That being said I’d put him in midfield over Ravenhill who doesn’t look up to it I’m sorry to say.
Bobby has looked a bit erratic to me last few games. I put Long in based on him being left-footed. I’ve explained Williams and I just think Nelson is ahead of Bobby. That’s no slander on Bobby.
I’ve also just realised I’ve posted on the wrong thread too. I’m tired so I’ll come back another day.
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NCRover I will take you to task with that team, you have picked Long who had bad games at Harrogate and Stevenage and cost a goal at Harrogate, and Nelson who was hooked at half time after being mullered by a physical specimen playing up front by Stevenage who for 45 minutes owned him.
And Newport will be coming with a 13 stone lump of gristle hell bent on retribution after the way he was treated here in Omar Bogle.
The one player who matched the Stevenage physicality for 90 minutes was Bobby Faulkner, aided in the second half by Ro Shaun together keeping us in the game, and after Faulkner also played well at Harrogate.
I hope you just forgot him when picking the team, if not I hope you will excuse me if I think its just nuts.
I also see you left Barlow out after one no worse than anyone else in mid field game just two games after he scored two worldies and was MOM in the two previous games for a sprinter who otherwise never touched the ball, smacks of chucking the names up in the air and picking who lands first to me.
Selby I really like Bobby he gives everything, attacks the ball, put a tackle in. If there is not a place for him when we are playing 3 centre halves in this team, his time is up an Donny Rovers under this coach. I play with some young lads who played with Bobby up to a couple of years ago who are decent, get paid for playing and they all think Bobby is light years ahead of any of them or their mates who are playing for Championship academies at 18.
He is technically raw though and almost a bit too eager to attack the ball sometimes but I think that looks worse due to the other centre halves leaving it to him to do the dirty work because they don't want to and don't want the lost duel on their stats. Imagine him with a Steve Nicol or a Jamie McCombe talking him through the game rather than Williams/Long. Saying no wait Booby, just jockey or Matt Mills to tell him to attack the ball and he would tidy up the pieces.
He does need work on the ball but some of that is confidence which has not been helped by the coach Nelson is better on the ball more composed but lacks the attack. If you could merge them, the product would be playing for Donny in the fourth tier.
Given losing all the rest of the games won't lead to relegation or (seemingly) the coach being sacked, the coach would be crackers to not be developing the player who is contracted for us not rather than a premier league team.
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I get the impression, Selby will put me right on this, that because of his size and build Faulkener won everything in his age group/ level he was playing at be it in the air or floor. He would be dominant. Is this the reason he tries so hard to get his head on everything and try to tackle strongly at every opportunity? Is he that used to winning everything at the.level he has been playing at that he is now finding it's not as easy at the next step up? There are times to attack the ball and times to drop off but not all the time for both. He looks a rough diamond to me and with the right coaching could make it or alternatively.......
It's not that hard to be the "best" defender in this team at the moment