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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: glosterred on April 18, 2023, 06:46:34 pm
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Tonight’s team
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6 Subs no Westbrooke ?
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Is he just being stubborn? Or doesn't he rate or trust our own youngsters.
We have 4 games left to play and we are neither going up or down so why stick with players who have got us into the depressing situation we are in now?
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Should be playing Williams at centre half this evening. Even if he can only last 60/70 minutes.
These young lads have done well but you can't keep playing them continuously when other options are available.
Also they're going to get battered by a team with a direct approach. We could do with Williams strength and (slightly) greater experience. Playing solely young novices at centre back tonight is both unwise and unfair on them.
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Should be playing Williams at centre half this evening. Even if he can only last 60/70 minutes.
These young lads have done well but you can't keep playing them continuously when other options are available.
Also they're going to get battered by a team with a direct approach. We could do with Williams strength and (slightly) greater experience. Playing solely young novices at centre back tonight is both unwise and unfair on them.
Williams is the worst centre back in the air at the club
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1 | The ball sits up kindly for Danny Rose in the Rovers box but he miscues his shot
0-0
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2 | A free kick into the Rovers box is cleared out but Jake Taylor runs onto the ball and fires wide first time
0-0
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2 minutes gone and Rovers are lucky not to have conceded 2 goals. This is going to be a long night, a bit like being Leeds, but at a much lower level.
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1:0
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1 down
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1-0
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12 | Luke Molyneux makes an important tackle on the edge of the box but the ball runs through to Jordan Roberts who drills a powerful low effort home from 15 yards
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Well thats been coming since KO, we haven’t had the ball
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Ifollow saying unfortunate it fell very kindly for the Stevenage player
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15 | Important hand to the ball from Jonathan Mitchell as Jake Taylor's deep cross forces danger at the back post
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15 minutes gone, 1 down and I don’t think we’ve been anywhere near their penalty area yet.
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How many can Stevenage score before we get a shot on target I'm going for 4
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Attack vs defence so far, there will only be one outcome like this.
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I agree that we haven’t had the ball. I wasn’t going to buy the iFollow pass tonight but morbid curiosity got the better of me.
Stevenage are a big strong side, the kind we always seem to struggle against.
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Look at the size differences
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I'm no fan of Schofield, but looking at that list of players would anyone get anything out of them. A very poor set of players. Clear out badly needed.
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Weve had 42% possession. 40% in our own half
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My god we are awful
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20 | Big block from Bobby Faulkner to prevent Max Clark from hitting the target
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I’ve seen the half way line once in 20 minutes
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Big powerful side, Odds on to win, a goal up and playing a high pace press and we are trying to skill them to death in our own 6 yard box. Mental
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Playing it about in our own box isn't any good.
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Even the Stevenage commentators are laughing at us.
Oh dear :turd:
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Bookmakers are always a good judge of what is happening, after only 24 minutes of play Rovers are $)/1 against winning. Depressing.
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Big powerful side, Odds on to win, a goal up and playing a high pace press and we are trying to skill them to death in our own 6 yard box. Mental
but.. but.. pep does it, and look how well his teams perform..?
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Even the Stevenage commentators are laughing at us.
Oh dear :turd:
was just about to say the same ,Even the Stevenage commentators are laughing at us.
Oh dear :turd:
saying Mitchell should not be playing out from the back with 1 win in 16
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Sorry, 40/1 that should be.
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Schofield is still telling our players to play out from the back. They are not good enough and we just kick it out of play. Is there anyone that still wants this fraud as manager of our club? I’ve never witnessed a more stubborn and clueless manager. It’s baffling.
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We stopped playing out from the back and all of a sudden we start again. Clearly an instruction to do that.
Beggars belief
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It’s the process…
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gills beating orient. they are just a point behind rovers now as it stands
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Trust the process.......... :woot:
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I thought horror shows shouldn't be shown before the 9.00 pm watershed?
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29 | Quick passing move from Stevenage with the ball making its way to Jake Taylor, who fired over the bar from the edge of the box
1-0
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What would you give to watch our team try and play attacking football like Stevenage
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" Rovers struggling, it's fair to say, in this one" The power of understatement from our commentator.
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zero shots
nil
nada
zilch
nothing
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For anyone who is there, firstly, you deserve a medal, 2ndly, what's the crowd atmosphere like, behind the team, or on DS's back,?
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What would you give to watch our team try and play attacking football like Stevenage
No no it’s not the “right kind” of attacking football. Still 0-0. Plus they have a mean manager :(
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Schofield is still telling our players to play out from the back. They are not good enough and we just kick it out of play. Is there anyone that still wants this fraud as manager of our club? I’ve never witnessed a more stubborn and clueless manager. It’s baffling.
you obviously don't understand the vision? Lol
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I wonder what odds you can get for us not having a touch in their box in 90 mins.
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Sound issues on ifollow while the Rovers fans are chanting Schofield get out of our club?
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Hurst really looks off the pace tonight, misplacing all his passes.
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I'm obviously only joking but half wondering Is there a precedent for being accused of match fixing based solely on the repeat formation a team plays despite all evidence to the contrary
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gills beating orient. they are just a point behind rovers now as it stands
Just to remind you I did tell you to put £300 on Gillingham to stay up at evens before the Pied Piper did his bit --- the bet I made was the easiest money I ever made
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gills beating orient. they are just a point behind rovers now as it stands
Just to remind you I did tell you to put £300 on Gillingham to stay up at evens before the Pied Piper did his bit --- the bet I made was the easiest money I ever made
what makes u think you were the only one to have a flutter on this?
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Stevenage commentators saying you can't play out from the back in this league. We're being laughed at by them literally.
HE HAS TO GO
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45 | Good save from Jonathan Mitchell to keep out Jamie Reid's angled strike
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Stevenage commentator, “ I’ve said it to death, it just does not work at this level”
Nothing more to say.
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Half time 1-0 we’ll at least it’s only 1!
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HT 1-0 absolute garbage
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That half was really poor. Stevenage should be out of sight
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Not a shot on or off target, let's hope the fans clap the team off and the manager as we don't want to upset them
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Stevenage commentators saying you can't play out from the back in this league. We're being laughed at by them literally.
HE HAS TO GO
the local harrogate rag was equally damning. " we should be beating the likes of doncaster on their current performances"
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At least it’s good to know that Schofield’s half time pep talks usually result in a completely different team coming out in the second half.
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What an abysmal first half that was from Rovers.
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Absolutely appalling.
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Half time stats
Home50%. Away50%
Shots
Home7Away0
Shots on Target
Home2Away0
Corners
Home1Away0
Fouls
Home5Away3
Nothing there to write home about
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A few weeks ago I said Gillingham, then bottom of the league, would have more points than Rovers by the end of the season (they had just been bought out and were having substantial money to spend), they are currently 1 point below Rovers, beating the top of the league 1-0. What a difference an owner makes eh?
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Awful. Kind of looks like a bunch of kids from the park, running around trying to get the ball from grown up professional footballers, who are having a knock about and a laugh with the kids.
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Although he scored a couple of times Barlow is absolute dogs. No way would he be getting a contract.
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I’m not sure it gets worse than that half
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After each game you think it can’t get any worse, and it does, how this clown keeps his job is baffling
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Awful. Kind of looks like a bunch of kids from the park, running around trying to get the ball from grown up professional footballers, who are having a knock about and a laugh with the kids.
As accurate a description as you'll get of that first half. What a joke we have become over the last few years.
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these are professional, well paid footballers.
its what they do for a living.
if they are playing for the manager ill eat my hat.
if there was ever any evidence that he has lost the dressing room, as well as the plot, its being presented right before our eyes this evening.
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The owner the chairman, copps and schofield should be ashamed at the squad we have assembled
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A few weeks ago I said Gillingham, then bottom of the league, would have more points than Rovers by the end of the season (they had just been bought out and were having substantial money to spend), they are currently 1 point below Rovers, beating the top of the league 1-0. What a difference an owner makes eh?
Yep, and I said the same thing about Gillingham going past us before the season ends.
I think it is stitched on now.
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I’m not sure it gets worse than that half
Wait to see what we produce this next half!
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After each game you think it can’t get any worse, and it does, how this clown keeps his job is baffling
You do know that you shouldn’t write stuff like that in case Schofield comes on here and reads it.
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Although he scored a couple of times Barlow is absolute dogs. No way would he be getting a contract.
You can add Hurst and Moly to that .
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I’m not sure it gets worse than that half
Wait to see what we produce this next half!
does it matter.?
hasnt enough damage already been done.?
anger is turning to apathy by supporters.
i dont think even some miraculous turnaround in the second half changes much if anything
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The sad thing is, Stevenage are god damn awful, that how far we have fallen, being bossed by Stevenage for gods sake!
He needs to get more bodies in midfield and get control of the ball more and we may have half a chance, but we know he won't change anything because it's not in the process!!
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Although he scored a couple of times Barlow is absolute dogs. No way would he be getting a contract.
You can add Hurst and Moly to that .
and Brown.
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Half time subs
Substitution
Two half time changes for Rovers
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Kieran Agard
Ben Nelson
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Jack Goodman
Ro-Shaun Williams
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A few weeks ago I said Gillingham, then bottom of the league, would have more points than Rovers by the end of the season (they had just been bought out and were having substantial money to spend), they are currently 1 point below Rovers, beating the top of the league 1-0. What a difference an owner makes eh?
What a difference playing against 10 men since 13 or 14th minute eh!
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How long stays on and Nelson comes on is baffling
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Bit controversial this but, the more i watch Faulkner the more I think he isnt good enough. And I know the team around him do him no favours at all but hes not great technically and positionally he is all over the place. Next season will be a big one for him in my opinion. James, Long, Close, Ravenhill, Agard also nowhere near good enough. Mitchell, Molyneux, Barlow, Hurst squad players at best.
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Unless Nelson is injured, Long staying on as opposed to Nelson just shows how clueless Schofield is.
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Half time subs
Substitution
Two half time changes for Rovers
OFF
Kieran Agard
Ben Nelson
ON
Jack Goodman
Ro-Shaun Williams
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ah yes. this is schofield engaging "full throttle"
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Good to see Baldwin and Lockwood having a good laugh, as we hit the ball out once again.
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52 | First effort on target of the evening for Rovers. Lovely lay off from Jack Goodman sends Kyle Hurst racing towards the box. He breaks the line and fires on goal from an angle but Thimothee Lo-Tutala is behind it
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A few weeks ago I said Gillingham, then bottom of the league, would have more points than Rovers by the end of the season (they had just been bought out and were having substantial money to spend), they are currently 1 point below Rovers, beating the top of the league 1-0. What a difference an owner makes eh?
What a difference playing against 10 men since 13 or 14th minute eh!
You pays your money and takes your choice - they only beat wimbledon 2-1 was it last match
Gillingham who are NOW a far better team than them only beat us 1-0
and Gillingham were 3/1 yesterday to beat Orient and their home form since the Pied Pipers intervention is "unbelievable Jeff" orient really ave some stiff games to come and might play like dead men like we did when we got promotion early under Fergie
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We’ve had a shot.
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Bit controversial this but, the more i watch Faulkner the more I think he isnt good enough. And I know the team around him do him no favours at all but hes not great technically and positionally he is all over the place. Next season will be a big one for him in my opinion. James, Long, Close, Ravenhill, Agard also nowhere near good enough. Mitchell, Molyneux, Barlow, Hurst squad players at best.
I'm just off to get popcorn before replies come in
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The contracted players for next season in the first half are Faulkner Long Molyneux Close and Hurst these as Copps has said part of a strong squad. He was a legend as a footballer but he’s no idea as a hof. The rest don’t deserve a contract let’s hope we don’t give them one.
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plymouth and Ipswich both losing :suicide:
ipswich now 1-1
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That's cause I have had them both in my bet
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He's chucked on a young lad up front who has only got a handful appearances and leaves him with no one within 20 yards of him.
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Rufus brevett will be raging that handball wasn't a yellow ( ask your dad kids)
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These Stevenage commentators are a right pair of idiots.
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These Stevenage commentators are a right pair of idiots.
Get the impression they think they are funny
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Bit controversial this but, the more i watch Faulkner the more I think he isnt good enough. And I know the team around him do him no favours at all but hes not great technically and positionally he is all over the place. Next season will be a big one for him in my opinion. James, Long, Close, Ravenhill, Agard also nowhere near good enough. Mitchell, Molyneux, Barlow, Hurst squad players at best.
But some people think that because he likes to put his foot in then he's brilliant. His eagerness to win balls puts him out of position too much and yes isnt brilliant with the ball. Which was a reason why he was farmed out on loan.
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Awful. Kind of looks like a bunch of kids from the park, running around trying to get the ball from grown up professional footballers, who are having a knock about and a laugh with the kids.
Just said to my lad,we are team of players running around like headless chiclens,no plan,no tactics,it's as if they are told to go out and do what they want,it's as if the only thing they are told is what formation they should play,the rest is up to you! As almost everybody is saying,DS must be tactically inept.
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How far out of his box with the ball in his hands - ffs
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Time to give you all the answer to my quiiz how many goalkeepers Stevenage have used this season Stelling said 7 (as in 7 dwarfs)
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i predict wallsall, crewe, newport and gills all to finish above rovers come season end.
18th.
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Bit controversial this but, the more i watch Faulkner the more I think he isnt good enough. And I know the team around him do him no favours at all but hes not great technically and positionally he is all over the place. Next season will be a big one for him in my opinion. James, Long, Close, Ravenhill, Agard also nowhere near good enough. Mitchell, Molyneux, Barlow, Hurst squad players at best.
But some people think that because he likes to put his foot in then he's brilliant. His eagerness to win balls puts him out of position too much and yes isnt brilliant with the ball. Which was a reason why he was farmed out on loan.
He was farmed out on loan because we don't know how to truly develop an exceptional talent. He's the best Rovers product for many a year. He's the one commanding that back line & he's 18.
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The Wilson memori
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77 Yellow card for Faulkner
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ATTENDANCE | Many thanks to the 179 Rovers supporters that have made the trip to the Lamex Stadium tonight. Part of a crowd of 2,990
Miller on for Hurst
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He does have something, but he is far from ready, and isn’t great with the ball. He needs to be playing at a lower level away from the pressure of our fans and pressure he will place on himself to do well for his hometown club.
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These Stevenage commentators are a right pair of idiots.
Get the impression they think they are funny
Young Waldorf and Statler's
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Ravenhill not got a yellow yet. That’s a positive I guess
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i just put £1 on at 18/1 the draw :)and a few pennies on the win
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Awful. Kind of looks like a bunch of kids from the park, running around trying to get the ball from grown up professional footballers, who are having a knock about and a laugh with the kids.
Just said to my lad,we are team of players running around like headless chiclens,no plan,no tactics,it's as if they are told to go out and do what they want,it's as if the only thing they are told is what formation they should play,the rest is up to you! As almost everybody is saying,DS must be tactically inept.
spot on I reckon.
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83 | Real danger from Stevenage, requiring three big blocks before Danny Rose smashes an overhead kick off the bar
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respect to the 179.
thats committment.
i dof my cap.
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85 | Jack Goodman receives the ball on the edge of the box, turns and fires wide
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Gillingham 2-0
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86 | Jake Reeves receives a lay-off from Jamie Reid but fires straight at Jonathan Mitchell
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Gillingham 2-0
gills' recent goalscoring has relegated rovers to fourth worst gd in the lge. and two of them are looking good for the drop.
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90 | There will be a minimum of four minutes added at the end of the second half
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I’ve had a good look at Ravenhill now over a few games. I don’t see it, I just do not see him having a career playing pro football at league level.
He’s lightweight, too slow, passing is mostly poor, I just do not see what he offers. He may look better with a stronger group around him, but I’m not sure at all.
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Schofield’s body language decidedly nervous, looking very downbeat and twitchy on the touchline. Has he been given an ulimatum?
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i watched piergianni a few times playing for boston between 2013-16. he was a right weapon and still doing a job at this level. just the sort of battling player rovers could do with at centre half.
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Schofield’s body language decidedly nervous, looking very downbeat and twitchy on the touchline. Has he been given an ulimatum?
i wonder if the penny has dropped?
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Gillingham 2-0
gills' recent goalscoring has relegated rovers to fourth worst gd in the lge. and two of them are looking good for the drop.
In the last 30 games we have scored the least amount of goals in the entire league.
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Full time
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Well that was the easiest 3 points Stevenage will get all season
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Full time 1-0 I think the only consolation is that we only lost 1 nil
Onwards and another shit performance
On to Saturday
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i didnt expect to get any result at stevenage tonight.
but once again i wanted to see fight, battle, spirit. team work
a motivational manager on the touchline "kicking every ball" metaphorically with his band of players.
and once again ive seen none of it
this is what hurts the most
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no matter what you say we only lost 1-0 to both Stevenage and Gillingham - thats what the form book says
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I’ve had a good look at Ravenhill now over a few games. I don’t see it, I just do not see him having a career playing pro football at league level.
He’s lightweight, too slow, passing is mostly poor, I just do not see what he offers. He may look better with a stronger group around him, but I’m not sure at all.
We need to develop our younger players. They have not been developed. Again I thought he was one of our better players tonight. He's alongside Close who's a lightweight in a midfield 2. 100% we've needed 3 min centre midfield for the past 2 years but we have never used it. Clueless management is to blame and poor development post youth football in my opinion. The Stevenage commentary thought highly of his game.
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That was our 21st defeat this season. Only Rochdale have lost more times.
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I thought the defence did ok tonight, at least they have some stomach for a battle and for me Liam also got stuck in. I still think that 2 or 3 proper players in the front 5 transforms this team.
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Bit controversial this but, the more i watch Faulkner the more I think he isnt good enough. And I know the team around him do him no favours at all but hes not great technically and positionally he is all over the place. Next season will be a big one for him in my opinion. James, Long, Close, Ravenhill, Agard also nowhere near good enough. Mitchell, Molyneux, Barlow, Hurst squad players at best.
But some people think that because he likes to put his foot in then he's brilliant. His eagerness to win balls puts him out of position too much and yes isnt brilliant with the ball. Which was a reason why he was farmed out on loan.
He was farmed out on loan because we don't know how to truly develop an exceptional talent. He's the best Rovers product for many a year. He's the one commanding that back line & he's 18.
He is a talent with a future in the professional game I agree, but exceptional is a bit over the top, I'd reserve that word for a young player who is top half premiership champions league and possibly future international. At 18 these players would already be better on the ball, and Bobby isn't fast enough for that level. Top end league 1/lower championship maybe. Still not a bad career.
But people believe he is destined for the very top.
Just my opinion and has I would say for any rovers player, I hope they prove me wrong.
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Exceptional in the context of players to come through our academy though. No one will look good in this team. Both Ravenhill, if his contract is extended, and Faulkner would be well served by a full season in national league if they play most weeks.
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Long & Molyneux need to go on the transfer list at the end of the season, they are shite!
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team against us have such an easy time. The fact we just kept playing ourselves into more trouble by not getting the ball forward is a testament to management team that do not have a clue how to contrive some sort of result from a match like this.
Totally clueless
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Exceptional in the context of players to come through our academy though. No one will look good in this team. Both Ravenhill, if his contract is extended, and Faulkner would be well served by a full season in national league if they play most weeks.
Exactly I was speaking exceptional in terms of OUR youth team and prospects not Premier Leagues prospects... But he's every bit as promising (or more) than Nelson, Miller, Woltman, That donkey from Birmingham, Brown, Lakin all on loan to help our first team.
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no matter what you say we only lost 1-0 to both Stevenage and Gillingham - thats what the form book says
So positives in the process then. It looks good but for anyone who watched those 2 games the truth is somewhat different, very different
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