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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Filo on April 22, 2023, 07:42:35 pm

Title: Todd Miller
Post by: Filo on April 22, 2023, 07:42:35 pm
Given that the role he played today is not his natural position I thought he did well, chased things down and got a good block on the keepers clearance that could have easily gone in the net, he forced a few errors out of their defence, he looks like he could make a good number 10
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: keith79 on April 22, 2023, 07:44:06 pm
How fast is he. Rapid
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: drfchound on April 22, 2023, 07:45:16 pm
I agree. I was sceptical at the start and thought he would be too lightweight but in fairness I thought he did really well.
His pace caused the keeper to hurry clearances on a few occasions.
He was my choice as MoM.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Metalmicky on April 22, 2023, 07:50:11 pm
Can we close this positive thread now....... totally unnecessary... :whistle:
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Filo on April 22, 2023, 07:51:21 pm
Can we close this positive thread now....... totally unnecessary... :whistle:

I know, what was I thinking lol!
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: knockers on April 22, 2023, 08:04:06 pm
My mom as well. Put a big forward with him and he’ll get better as he’ll beat any defender with his pace chasing knock downs
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 22, 2023, 08:07:09 pm
My mom as well. Put a big forward with him and he’ll get better as he’ll beat any defender with his pace chasing knock downs
100% agree. Not a lone striker, but worked hard and tried to force errors. Can't header or hold the ball up, so playing him as a lone striker with a physical back 4 is yet another management masterclass from the buffoon in charge here.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Metalmicky on April 22, 2023, 08:09:29 pm
My mom as well. Put a big forward with him and he’ll get better as he’ll beat any defender with his pace chasing knock downs

Well your mom had a good game....   :)
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 22, 2023, 08:12:01 pm
My mom as well. Put a big forward with him and he’ll get better as he’ll beat any defender with his pace chasing knock downs

Well your mom had a good game....   :)
That explains the perm then!
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Ryaldinhio on April 22, 2023, 08:32:48 pm
Personally I didn't rate his performance. Seems another pointless signing like Max Woltman who was rarely used.

I've nowt against the kid but also why are we playing a loanee who is going back to their parent club and leaving Goodman sat on bench?

What is the benefit to DRFC in playing Miller today in that role? Thought the draw of DS was developing youth?
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: bpoolrover on April 22, 2023, 08:37:56 pm
I think he tries really hard, he ran and ran but let's be honest on the ball he is not very good
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Copps is Magic on April 22, 2023, 08:45:03 pm
Will run around like a headless chicken, will never score a goal in Rovers colours. A sign of the absolute desperate state of the squad.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: dickos1 on April 22, 2023, 08:48:42 pm
He looked scared to death in the first half, and spent a lot of the game hiding. But I thought he grew in confidence.
It was a specofic tactic today to get him pushed right on, even when the ball was in our half he was 30 yards away from the play, I thought it was quite clever and left us with an outball and a few times we got him into a 1v1 situation with their centre half with a ball over the top
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: mushRTID on April 22, 2023, 08:51:49 pm
We used to get it rammed down our throats what a great reputation we had with the top clubs to nurture their talents.

Nelson aside who looks decent, the quality of this seasons loans have added absolutely nothing to us.

Miller looks ok, but that’s all.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on April 22, 2023, 08:55:14 pm
Loans last season were poor too. Think it’s partly been in L2 and partly we’re rubbish. Who wants their younger players to learn to throw games away every week.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: dickos1 on April 22, 2023, 09:21:07 pm
I think the season long loans you get in the summer are the ones with more quality, smith, Galbraith were good last season, we seemed to move away from loans this summer only getting woltman I think.
Nelson was a good one in jan
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: mushRTID on April 22, 2023, 09:23:52 pm
Andrews as well who didn’t look any good before going back.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: The Beast on April 23, 2023, 07:29:43 am
When I first saw Miller I was baffled to how he'd managed to get himself on Brighton's books and why we'd signed him but today I saw a decent footballer in him, just a shame we had nothing around him.
My biggest disappointment today was how good Bogle was and the realisation that we totally mismanaged him, he should have had a penalty, got an assist and held the ball up like a proper striker, something I'd not seen from anyone in a Rovers shirt in a long time.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Upton Rover on April 23, 2023, 08:34:53 am
Given that the role he played today is not his natural position I thought he did well, chased things down and got a good block on the keepers clearance that could have easily gone in the net, he forced a few errors out of their defence, he looks like he could make a good number 10
Putting 1 good shift in, doesn’t makeup for the rest of a below average season he’s had together with his team mates
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: drfchound on April 23, 2023, 08:38:10 am
Are you talking about Todd Miller?
He has hardly played for us this season so it is unfair to say he has had an average season for us.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Filo on April 23, 2023, 08:46:58 am
Given that the role he played today is not his natural position I thought he did well, chased things down and got a good block on the keepers clearance that could have easily gone in the net, he forced a few errors out of their defence, he looks like he could make a good number 10
Putting 1 good shift in, doesn’t makeup for the rest of a below average season he’s had together with his team mates

He’s in the team because there are no alternatives, he never got a chance, which begs the question why did we ever sign him?

I commented on his performance yesterday, nothing more nothing less, he’s been previously overlooked by a manager that hasn’t got a clue what he is doing
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Ryaldinhio on April 23, 2023, 09:09:55 am
When I first saw Miller I was baffled to how he'd managed to get himself on Brighton's books and why we'd signed him but today I saw a decent footballer in him, just a shame we had nothing around him.
My biggest disappointment today was how good Bogle was and the realisation that we totally mismanaged him, he should have had a penalty, got an assist and held the ball up like a proper striker, something I'd not seen from anyone in a Rovers shirt in a long time.

Totally agree on Bogle. Said to lad I go with he would walk into our first team now. I would be happy to sign him back and at 12 league 2 goals this year that shows where we are as a club.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: mushRTID on April 23, 2023, 09:14:21 am
If you were to list half the players we have released or deemed not good enough in the last few years, it is frightening how many would walk into the team now.

I’m not saying they were bad decisions at the time, it’s more a reflection of what they were replaced with!
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 23, 2023, 09:23:46 am
Personally I didn't rate his performance. Seems another pointless signing like Max Woltman who was rarely used.

I've nowt against the kid but also why are we playing a loanee who is going back to their parent club and leaving Goodman sat on bench?

What is the benefit to DRFC in playing Miller today in that role? Thought the draw of DS was developing youth?
I thought TM did well yesterday, but I think that's a really good point - in nothing games like this we ought to be giving our own lads experience - TM isn't head and shoulders above Goodman or Kuleya (who I really like) so let's give them some development.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: vaya on April 23, 2023, 10:37:05 am
I like his hair. Makes him easy to spot on the pitch.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: selby on April 23, 2023, 10:50:01 am
  The difference I thought I saw in Bogle was he looked quite a bit leaner, fitter, and more mobile, He was injured for quite a while while here maybe the difference.
  On a side note he was an utter gentleman, a lovely bloke.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 23, 2023, 11:15:13 am
Personally I didn't rate his performance. Seems another pointless signing like Max Woltman who was rarely used.

I've nowt against the kid but also why are we playing a loanee who is going back to their parent club and leaving Goodman sat on bench?

What is the benefit to DRFC in playing Miller today in that role? Thought the draw of DS was developing youth?
I thought TM did well yesterday, but I think that's a really good point - in nothing games like this we ought to be giving our own lads experience - TM isn't head and shoulders above Goodman or Kuleya (who I really like) so let's give them some development.

Whilst I understand your point, the reason Todd Miller was given the task yesterday was because of his blistering pace. Exactly for the reasons Filo and dickos1 quite rightly praised him. That in turn should draw praise for Schofield for setting the team up like that. Of course, he's not going to get that credit.

As for Bogle, let's not kid ourselves, he was another who was being victimised by fans even before Wellens stepped in. Yet, he was welcomed back as we desperately needed the bodies. Whatever we think of him, he was an option that could and should have been at our disposal. Managers too make mistakes and unfortunately Wellens backed himself into a corner and most fans weren't going to let him off the hook
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: roversdude on April 23, 2023, 11:22:11 am
Personally I didn't rate his performance. Seems another pointless signing like Max Woltman who was rarely used.

I've nowt against the kid but also why are we playing a loanee who is going back to their parent club and leaving Goodman sat on bench?

What is the benefit to DRFC in playing Miller today in that role? Thought the draw of DS was developing youth?
I thought TM did well yesterday, but I think that's a really good point - in nothing games like this we ought to be giving our own lads experience - TM isn't head and shoulders above Goodman or Kuleya (who I really like) so let's give them some development.

Whilst I understand your point, the reason Todd Miller was given the task yesterday was because of his blistering pace. Exactly for the reasons Filo and dickos1 quite rightly praised him. That in turn should draw praise for Schofield for setting the team up like that. Of course, he's not going to get that credit.

As for Bogle, let's not kid ourselves, he was another who was being victimised by fans even before Wellens stepped in. Yet, he was welcomed back as we desperately needed the bodies. Whatever we think of him, he was an option that could and should have been at our disposal. Managers too make mistakes and unfortunately Wellens backed himself into a corner and most fans weren't going to let him off the hook

DBR agree it was quite sickening how Bogle was vilified and then seen as a returning hero by the same people
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on April 23, 2023, 03:30:46 pm
Personally I didn't rate his performance. Seems another pointless signing like Max Woltman who was rarely used.

I've nowt against the kid but also why are we playing a loanee who is going back to their parent club and leaving Goodman sat on bench?

What is the benefit to DRFC in playing Miller today in that role? Thought the draw of DS was developing youth?
I thought TM did well yesterday, but I think that's a really good point - in nothing games like this we ought to be giving our own lads experience - TM isn't head and shoulders above Goodman or Kuleya (who I really like) so let's give them some development.

Whilst I understand your point, the reason Todd Miller was given the task yesterday was because of his blistering pace. Exactly for the reasons Filo and dickos1 quite rightly praised him. That in turn should draw praise for Schofield for setting the team up like that. Of course, he's not going to get that credit.

As for Bogle, let's not kid ourselves, he was another who was being victimised by fans even before Wellens stepped in. Yet, he was welcomed back as we desperately needed the bodies. Whatever we think of him, he was an option that could and should have been at our disposal. Managers too make mistakes and unfortunately Wellens backed himself into a corner and most fans weren't going to let him off the hook
I said earlier up TM did well, but that his impact was massively limited by the fact he was on his own and can't head or hold the ball up. As for credit for Schofield, an isolated lone striker, Molyneux at left back, an inability to adapt, conceding twice from simple set pieces from a team known for having a long throw, like for like changes at the wrong times in the game, and an inability to motivate or improve his team means he shouldn't get any praise, rather a taxi straight to the jobcentre where he well and truly belongs. 
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: ncRover on August 16, 2023, 12:05:15 pm
Has ended up in the National League playing for Bromley.
Title: Re: Todd Miller
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 16, 2023, 08:49:20 pm
Bromley did well last season, making the National League play offs. Byron Webster captains them and Dennis Bergkamp's son plays for them.