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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Canadian Rover on May 12, 2023, 10:53:46 am
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Maybe one for SCWK but managers tend to go back to players they have worked with beforehand. Who could potentially join the Club that has played under McCann?
Let's start with Goalkeepers
George Long? Or would he be way out of our price range/budget?
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Seen Josh Emmanuel's name mentioned who is an athletic full-back.
Prompted me to look through the squad he worked with at Hull in L1. Dan Crowley was there on loan and is now available after leaving Morecambe. Tom Eaves hasn't had a great time at Rotherham so might become available - wouldn't be my first choice necessarily but would add some physicality and power up front.
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Didn't we have Crowley on trial last pre-season?
Not sure about Eaves.
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Didn't we have Crowley on trial last pre-season?
Not sure about Eaves.
The Wellens pre-season I think, yeah, along with Louis Reed and a few others.
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Didn’t he last about 5 minutes in a friendly at Rosso and then did his hamstring
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Seen Josh Emmanuel's name mentioned who is an athletic full-back.
Prompted me to look through the squad he worked with at Hull in L1. Dan Crowley was there on loan and is now available after leaving Morecambe. Tom Eaves hasn't had a great time at Rotherham so might become available - wouldn't be my first choice necessarily but would add some physicality and power up front.
Didn't he have Eaves lined up to join us just before he left? He then went ahead and signed him at Hull.
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Eaves has gone at the game.
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He’s not a championship striker but he’d be great in league 2
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Ricky Jade-Jones out of favour at Peterborough after GM left. Exactly what we need but would like have to be on loan.
Because GM mentions needing players to “beat the press” that would mean someone to run in behind with pace from wide as well as a target man centrally. Molyneux likes it to feet so need a direct player wide for balance.
GM always has a bigger striker like Marquis / Magennis / Eaves. Can’t be looking at strikers like Danny Johnson need ones who suit the system. Mix it up like he said.
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Didn’t he last about 5 minutes in a friendly at Rosso and then did his hamstring
Think you're thinking of Nathan Thomas.
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Eaves hasn’t scored in his last 25 appearances.
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He’s not been playing in league 2 though
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Wonder if Tyler Smith could be tempted to drop to league 2 on loan. He won’t be wanted at Hull and was at Oxford at the end of the season I think
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He’s not been playing in league 2 though
Nobody said he had.
The last time he did play in League Two though was 2016/17 when he managed 4 goals in 40 league appearances.
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Eaves hasn’t scored in his last 25 appearances.
25 appearances at Championship level, and I imagine no more than a handful have been starts so based on minutes on the pitch the way you put it sounds much worse than it is.
I’d be surprised if we manage to get someone on paper better than this - the last 6 or 7 seasons at League One level or better, capable of good goal scoring runs and probably most importantly he’s tall and physical.
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I've not put it any way other than stating that he hasn't scored in his last 25 appearances. That's an entirely objective, not subjective statement.
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Eaves would be an excellent signing for League 2.
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I've not put it any way other than stating that he hasn't scored in his last 25 appearances. That's an entirely objective, not subjective statement.
Sure, and I suppose saying the last time he played at this level he only scored 4 in 40 is also entirely objective and not intended as a slight.
Do you think that Eaves would be a good signing?
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One name not yet mentioned in this thread - Kieran Sadlier
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I've not put it any way other than stating that he hasn't scored in his last 25 appearances. That's an entirely objective, not subjective statement.
Sure, and I suppose saying the last time he played at this level he only scored 4 in 40 is also entirely objective and not intended as a slight.
Do you think that Eaves would be a good signing?
It was a reply to a comment that he wasn't playing in League Two, when he didn't score in 25. It's an entirely appropriate reply to then look at the last time he did play in League Two, that's literally the reference point for that response.
No views on him either way.
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One name not yet mentioned in this thread - Kieran Sadlier
He’s back at Bolton now and they are short on contracted players. He’s really enjoyed his time at Orient and working with Wellens. I think his family would always be happy to see him back here, and McCann is a fan so you never know.
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I've not put it any way other than stating that he hasn't scored in his last 25 appearances. That's an entirely objective, not subjective statement.
Sure, and I suppose saying the last time he played at this level he only scored 4 in 40 is also entirely objective and not intended as a slight.
Do you think that Eaves would be a good signing?
It was a reply to a comment that he wasn't playing in League Two, when he didn't score in 25. It's an entirely appropriate reply to then look at the last time he did play in League Two, that's literally the reference point for that response.
No views on him either way.
You missed out the 2 seasons after that where he scored 17 and 21 in League 1.
Besides, the role of a target man is more than just scoring goals it’s to allow the wide forwards to also get in on the act in a 4-3-3.
Bowen was very prolific under McCann for example.
Eaves would be a good signing at this level and will probably have smaller league 1 clubs after him.
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I didn't miss them out, because the relevant reference point for League Two, is playing in League Two.
The relevant reference point for scoring goals in League One, is League One.
Nobody has raised what the attributes of a striker should be.
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I didn't miss them out, because the relevant reference point for League Two, is playing in League Two.
The relevant reference point for scoring goals in League One, is League One.
Nobody has raised what the attributes of a striker should be.
Ok Johnson Clarke-Harris would struggle in League 2 by this strange logic?
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No view either way.
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Just watching the game and Hector Kyprianou is the type of player we are crying for. Signed by GM. Fingers crossed that this style of player is his main priority.
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Portsmouth have released Michael Jacobs. He was quality, not sure if at 31 he is what we need, but he got through a decent amount of games for them this season.
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Portsmouth have released Michael Jacobs. He was quality, not sure if at 31 he is what we need, but he got through a decent amount of games for them this season.
Rejected us once already. :laugh:
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I think he will go in to loan Di’shon Bernard from Man Utd. He’s a centre back that was on loan at Portsmouth, made ten appearances for them. I also see him going in for Conor Grant and a young player from Southampton on a season’s loan, Dominic Ballard, a striker currently playing in their B team.
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I think he will go in to loan Di’shon Bernard from Man Utd. He’s a centre back that was on loan at Portsmouth, made ten appearances for them. I also see him going in for Conor Grant and a young player from Southampton on a season’s loan, Dominic Ballard, a striker currently playing in their B team.
Conor Grant wouldn't be a bad shout BUT Plymouth have released him due to injury problems.......exactly the type of player we don't want to be signing. Last thing we need is another Taylor.
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Bernard has last been on loan at big Championship or League One clubs in Hull City and Portsmouth. He’s not dropping down to League Two, not at aged 22 anyway.
McCann has no link whatsoever to Southampton or Ballard, so this would be a long shot to say the least.
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Not sure we need a young cb, when we have one of our own? Or, at least, I think we do (Selby seems to have thrown some doubt on that).
Ballard seems a bit of a strange call? I don’t doubt the lad may well be good, but where’s the link?
Keep in mind, GM wants battlers and ones who can ‘mix it’.
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Alan, if Bobby gets his chance he will play for Doncaster Rovers but to push on he now needs to play league football, the days of loans out to clubs below league 1 are not his ambition, that is to be the first choice here or loans out at the same level or above.
He does not see u23s football as a place he would improve from where he is now.
The run of games at the end of the season, and how well he played gave him the confidence to kick on, he is ambitious for himself and the club, and sees playing for Doncaster Rovers first team and doing well as the best way to progress his career at the moment.
Other bigger clubs are tracking his progress, the club really do need to market the product carefully the way clubs like Peterborough use the market to their advantage, and if things go well Bobby will not be the last, but the first of a some talented youngsters we can develop of our own who force their way into the managers thoughts as first team players.
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Alan, if Bobby gets his chance he will play for Doncaster Rovers but to push on he now needs to play league football, the days of loans out to clubs below league 1 are not his ambition, that is to be the first choice here or loans out at the same level or above.
He does not see u23s football as a place he would improve from where he is now.
The run of games at the end of the season, and how well he played gave him the confidence to kick on, he is ambitious for himself and the club, and sees playing for Doncaster Rovers first team and doing well as the best way to progress his career at the moment.
Other bigger clubs are tracking his progress, the club really do need to market the product carefully the way clubs like Peterborough use the market to their advantage, and if things go well Bobby will not be the last, but the first of a some talented youngsters we can develop of our own who force their way into the managers thoughts as first team players.
Need to tie him down to a long term contract will release clauses. Make him a centre piece of our team until someone comes along and pays a small ransom to him (of which that money would be invested back into improving the first team squad).
Become a selling club at great profit margins and in the midst of it all have some great prospects in the team.
Watch Bobby thrive under Cliff Byrnes guidance.
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Josh Magennis was rumoured to be a target when GM was here last time, took him to Hull City , then on to Wigan who been struggling to pay wages
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Alan, if Bobby gets his chance he will play for Doncaster Rovers but to push on he now needs to play league football, the days of loans out to clubs below league 1 are not his ambition, that is to be the first choice here or loans out at the same level or above.
He does not see u23s football as a place he would improve from where he is now.
The run of games at the end of the season, and how well he played gave him the confidence to kick on, he is ambitious for himself and the club, and sees playing for Doncaster Rovers first team and doing well as the best way to progress his career at the moment.
Other bigger clubs are tracking his progress, the club really do need to market the product carefully the way clubs like Peterborough use the market to their advantage, and if things go well Bobby will not be the last, but the first of a some talented youngsters we can develop of our own who force their way into the managers thoughts as first team players.
Need to tie him down to a long term contract will release clauses. Make him a centre piece of our team until someone comes along and pays a small ransom to him (of which that money would be invested back into improving the first team squad).
Become a selling club at great profit margins and in the midst of it all have some great prospects in the team.
Watch Bobby thrive under Cliff Byrnes guidance.
Agree with this. The fact that Byrne has been appointed will, I think, only help to improve Bobby even further.
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This forum loves ex-players, but mention any ex-player working as back room staff and satan himself has been released.
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Josh Magennis was rumoured to be a target when GM was here last time, took him to Hull City , then on to Wigan who been struggling to pay wages
Never dropped to this level but is 32 now. 1 year left on his Wigan contract. Wouldn’t be a trendy signing but would be useful in my opinion.
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Alan, if Bobby gets his chance he will play for Doncaster Rovers but to push on he now needs to play league football, the days of loans out to clubs below league 1 are not his ambition, that is to be the first choice here or loans out at the same level or above.
He does not see u23s football as a place he would improve from where he is now.
The run of games at the end of the season, and how well he played gave him the confidence to kick on, he is ambitious for himself and the club, and sees playing for Doncaster Rovers first team and doing well as the best way to progress his career at the moment.
Other bigger clubs are tracking his progress, the club really do need to market the product carefully the way clubs like Peterborough use the market to their advantage, and if things go well Bobby will not be the last, but the first of a some talented youngsters we can develop of our own who force their way into the managers thoughts as first team players.
From the interview on Radio Sheffield it sounds like Bobby Faulkner will very much be part of McCann’s plans.
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Alan, if Bobby gets his chance he will play for Doncaster Rovers but to push on he now needs to play league football, the days of loans out to clubs below league 1 are not his ambition, that is to be the first choice here or loans out at the same level or above.
He does not see u23s football as a place he would improve from where he is now.
The run of games at the end of the season, and how well he played gave him the confidence to kick on, he is ambitious for himself and the club, and sees playing for Doncaster Rovers first team and doing well as the best way to progress his career at the moment.
Other bigger clubs are tracking his progress, the club really do need to market the product carefully the way clubs like Peterborough use the market to their advantage, and if things go well Bobby will not be the last, but the first of a some talented youngsters we can develop of our own who force their way into the managers thoughts as first team players.
Peterborough are a shining example of how to spot good players, bring them on then sell for big money.
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Alan, if Bobby gets his chance he will play for Doncaster Rovers but to push on he now needs to play league football, the days of loans out to clubs below league 1 are not his ambition, that is to be the first choice here or loans out at the same level or above.
He does not see u23s football as a place he would improve from where he is now.
The run of games at the end of the season, and how well he played gave him the confidence to kick on, he is ambitious for himself and the club, and sees playing for Doncaster Rovers first team and doing well as the best way to progress his career at the moment.
Other bigger clubs are tracking his progress, the club really do need to market the product carefully the way clubs like Peterborough use the market to their advantage, and if things go well Bobby will not be the last, but the first of a some talented youngsters we can develop of our own who force their way into the managers thoughts as first team players.
Peterborough are a shining example of how to spot good players, bring them on then sell for big money.
Well if Copps knows the type of player that Grant wants that’s is job now to look and discover these players.
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Maybe one for SCWK but managers tend to go back to players they have worked with beforehand. Who could potentially join the Club that has played under McCann?
Let's start with Goalkeepers
George Long? Or would he be way out of our price range/budget?
Well I was way off on this one...but I've got a feeling we'll see another 3/4 ex McCann players at the club still.
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Wonder if Tyler Smith could be tempted to drop to league 2 on loan. He won’t be wanted at Hull and was at Oxford at the end of the season I think
Released by Hull after a disappointing loan spell at Oxford.
He’s a more realistic option for a wide forward. Has the pace and energy for high press and making runs in behind.
Local lad too. Sounds sensible?
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Wonder if Tyler Smith could be tempted to drop to league 2 on loan. He won’t be wanted at Hull and was at Oxford at the end of the season I think
Released by Hull after a disappointing loan spell at Oxford.
He’s a more realistic option for a wide forward. Has the pace and energy for high press and making runs in behind.
Local lad too. Sounds sensible?
Thought he was going to be class in that loan spell after the debut goals he took so well. But didn’t really do much after that. Not sure any of his other moves have gone to plan but clearly he’s got so,e ability.
We need pace so if he’s affordable it’s a obvious signing imo
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Wonder if Tyler Smith could be tempted to drop to league 2 on loan. He won’t be wanted at Hull and was at Oxford at the end of the season I think
Released by Hull after a disappointing loan spell at Oxford.
He’s a more realistic option for a wide forward. Has the pace and energy for high press and making runs in behind.
Local lad too. Sounds sensible?
Would be a very good signing
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Seen Josh Emmanuel's name mentioned who is an athletic full-back.
Prompted me to look through the squad he worked with at Hull in L1. Dan Crowley was there on loan and is now available after leaving Morecambe. Tom Eaves hasn't had a great time at Rotherham so might become available - wouldn't be my first choice necessarily but would add some physicality and power up front.
Josh Emmanuel released by Carlisle.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up here rather than Nixon.
I like TN but I’m not sure he fits in with McCann’s idea of an attacking full back. Good defender though.
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There are lots of posts relating to players who would be good in league 2. Surely we should be considering L1 and potential championship for the younger players.
Be positive!
I would be shocked if the lads are going to let the play offs go now given their current mentality when approaching the games.
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Matty smith left Salford maybe a good signing
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There are lots of posts relating to players who would be good in league 2. Surely we should be considering L1 and potential championship for the younger players.
Be positive!
I would be shocked if the lads are going to let the play offs go now given their current mentality when approaching the games.
It’s an old thread
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Matty smith left Salford maybe a good signing
He’s a one trick pony but at this level devastatingly effective. Surprised me he is 35 next month.