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Title: Man City
Post by: Copps is Magic on May 17, 2023, 09:59:25 pm
Kicked on since we beat them in the league cup.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Thorney on May 17, 2023, 10:08:30 pm
Kicked on since we beat them in the league cup.

Shows what you can do when you get bought by rich Arabs.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: drfchound on May 17, 2023, 10:10:01 pm
Kicked on since we beat them in the league cup.

They sure have, I dread to think what the score would have been if we had played them in an FA or FL Cup game last season.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Thorney on May 17, 2023, 10:10:47 pm
Plus bet 90% of the man City fans there never saw them play in the lower leagues and couldn't name any of there players from that night.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: RoversInSpain on May 17, 2023, 10:21:26 pm
Not a fan of City by any means, but they brought the term ‘Beautiful game’ to life this evening. Also fantastic for the  England lads Walker, Grealish and Stones to perform at this level and win. Stones in midfield was magnificent.
Anyway Grant will have us playing like that next season, (apart from the fannying around at the back bit)
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: NickDRFC on May 17, 2023, 10:26:56 pm
Plus bet 90% of the man City fans there never saw them play in the lower leagues and couldn't name any of there players from that night.

3 days before we beat them they played Bolton at home in the PL in front of 43,000. I doubt they’ve lost 38,000 of those fans since then.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Donnyjim on May 17, 2023, 10:37:27 pm
Arguably two of the worst ECL semis ever screened. Both so one sided. Absolute yawn fest. Can not get lezzed up about Citeh! Like a previous poster has said. It’s simply what you can do with a bottomless pit of Arab money and pay lawyers to get you around FPP. It’s just embarrassing it’s taken them so long to buy their way to ECL glory. Come on Inter!
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Draytonian III on May 17, 2023, 10:47:30 pm
Away at Rochdale in the early 90’s a couple of us went in their club shop for programmes and a badge, I held the door open for someone coming out and it was my all time football hero Colin Bell.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Alan Southstand on May 17, 2023, 10:48:34 pm
Come on, DonnyJim, you have to admit that was a treat on the eyes (and I’m no City fan, either). They absolutely mullered Real tonight. It’s not like they were playing Arsenal!
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Donnyjim on May 17, 2023, 10:58:00 pm
Come on, DonnyJim, you have to admit that was a treat on the eyes (and I’m no City fan, either). They absolutely mullered Real tonight. It’s not like they were playing Arsenal!

Sorry mate - Citeh were okay but it was Real Madrid that were truely abysmal from the start. You could see the space they were giving them was a disaster waiting to happen. I knew it would happen as they are an aging side. I think we could have beaten Madrid tonight.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: BigH on May 17, 2023, 11:02:03 pm
Kicked on since we beat them in the league cup.

They sure have, I dread to think what the score would have been if we had played them in an FA or FL Cup game last season.
They would have only won 5 or 6 nil. They’d have played their under13s.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Bessie Red on May 18, 2023, 12:33:51 am
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Kicked on since we beat them in the league cup.

They sure have, I dread to think what the score would have been if we had played them in an FA or FL Cup game last season.
They would have only won 5 or 6 nil. They’d have played their under13s.
We beat them 2-1 only 18 months ago, mind you it was their U21's!!
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 18, 2023, 06:26:46 am
They are still on the hook for cheating aren’t they? Facing charges for financial doping. They were a modestly successful club that wasn’t even ever the best club in their city, let alone the country, for decades and decades until the foreign cash came along. I don’t see anything to celebrate with them. A curious passion and emotion free zone. Take the cash away and they are Chelsea. Mid-table also-rans.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Barmby Rover on May 18, 2023, 06:42:01 am
Cheats, in a league full of cheats, the PL and CL are irrelevant circuses.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 18, 2023, 06:53:25 am
They are still on the hook for cheating aren’t they? Facing charges for financial doping. They were a modestly successful club that wasn’t even ever the best club in their city, let alone the country, for decades and decades until the foreign cash came along. I don’t see anything to celebrate with them. A curious passion and emotion free zone. Take the cash away and they are Chelsea. Mid-table also-rans.

Yes, I agree. They may be an aspirational model of how the game can be played but behind the scenes they are far from it. It's a richer to even richer by any means story rather than a true rags to riches story where everything that goes into success is hard earned and more reflective of the communities the club represent. 
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: ncRover on May 18, 2023, 07:08:34 am
Plus bet 90% of the man City fans there never saw them play in the lower leagues and couldn't name any of there players from that night.

I disagree. They have a lot less plastic fans than Man U and Liverpool
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Campsall rover on May 18, 2023, 08:04:16 am
Plus bet 90% of the man City fans there never saw them play in the lower leagues and couldn't name any of there players from that night.

3 days before we beat them they played Bolton at home in the PL in front of 43,000. I doubt they’ve lost 38,000 of those fans since then.
Going to say they were not too shabby in 2005 were they. You beat me to it Nick.

Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Thorney on May 18, 2023, 08:09:12 am
Yes probably am being harsh, it's the amount of people I know who have suddenly popped up with man City shirts claiming to be long time man City fans when even just 10 years ago they never owned a football shirt, and never been to a live game.
But every club has them I suppose. We probably would if the Hollywood duo had bought us and not Wrexham
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: pib on May 18, 2023, 09:50:15 am
I find them completely soulless and dull to be honest.

I know this is all completely based on narrative, and I respect the fact that some people enjoy watching a team stuffed from 1 to 11 (and the rest) full of the world's best players (plus manager) at the cost of billions become an almost machine-like juggernaut designed to play with the utmost precision, but it does absolutely nothing for me personally.

I appreciate that they are the absolute elite of the elite, and in terms of football ability they are second-to-none, but that's not personally what I watch football for. I've been watching the EFL and non-league play-offs and have found those a much more compelling prospect in comparison.

It had an air of novelty about it when they first got taken over and started to win things when they'd previously been starved of top-level success, but now, however many years later, there's nothing that I can personally get enthused about with them. It's the way I felt about Chelsea when Abramovich and Mourinho first went in there, and suspect something similar will happen to Newcastle in time.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: KingKendrick on May 18, 2023, 10:13:34 am
I find them completely soulless and dull to be honest.

I know this is all completely based on narrative, and I respect the fact that some people enjoy watching a team stuffed from 1 to 11 (and the rest) full of the world's best players (plus manager) at the cost of billions become an almost machine-like juggernaut designed to play with the utmost precision, but it does absolutely nothing for me personally.

I appreciate that they are the absolute elite of the elite, and in terms of football ability they are second-to-none, but that's not personally what I watch football for. I've been watching the EFL and non-league play-offs and have found those a much more compelling prospect in comparison.

It had an air of novelty about it when they first got taken over and started to win things when they'd previously been starved of top-level success, but now, however many years later, there's nothing that I can personally get enthused about with them. It's the way I felt about Chelsea when Abramovich and Mourinho first went in there, and suspect something similar will happen to Newcastle in time.

I wouldn’t say they were signed as the worlds best players at all but have collectively came together under pep to become a relentless machine. This side would be up there with his Barca side that again were breathtaking.
Staggering to see a manager not rest on his laurels and change style of play 3/4 times under his reign in order to stay on top. The best signing city ever made was bringing in pep he’s revolutionised English football. We can all make arguments about spending money but spending money doesn’t ever guarantee success just like at the likes of Chelsea and United who are miles off where city are on a performance level.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: dickos1 on May 18, 2023, 11:03:10 am
Come on, DonnyJim, you have to admit that was a treat on the eyes (and I’m no City fan, either). They absolutely mullered Real tonight. It’s not like they were playing Arsenal!

Sorry mate - Citeh were okay but it was Real Madrid that were truely abysmal from the start. You could see the space they were giving them was a disaster waiting to happen. I knew it would happen as they are an aging side. I think we could have beaten Madrid tonight.

The first half from city was unbelievable, one of the best performances I’ve seen. Against the current champions of Europe
Certainly a lot better than ok
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: EasyforDennis on May 18, 2023, 11:48:59 am
I find them completely soulless and dull to be honest.

I know this is all completely based on narrative, and I respect the fact that some people enjoy watching a team stuffed from 1 to 11 (and the rest) full of the world's best players (plus manager) at the cost of billions become an almost machine-like juggernaut designed to play with the utmost precision, but it does absolutely nothing for me personally.

I appreciate that they are the absolute elite of the elite, and in terms of football ability they are second-to-none, but that's not personally what I watch football for. I've been watching the EFL and non-league play-offs and have found those a much more compelling prospect in comparison.

It had an air of novelty about it when they first got taken over and started to win things when they'd previously been starved of top-level success, but now, however many years later, there's nothing that I can personally get enthused about with them. It's the way I felt about Chelsea when Abramovich and Mourinho first went in there, and suspect something similar will happen to Newcastle in time.

Forget about the club and just appreciate the football played. I thought it was a great game to watch and Citeh were superb. Had it been the other way round I still would have said the same.
I can only watch one club with passion (and that includes the England team) and that is DRFC.
Objectively I can enjoy watching  a team play great football but at the end of the day it really means nothing to me.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: pib on May 18, 2023, 11:52:40 am
I find them completely soulless and dull to be honest.

I know this is all completely based on narrative, and I respect the fact that some people enjoy watching a team stuffed from 1 to 11 (and the rest) full of the world's best players (plus manager) at the cost of billions become an almost machine-like juggernaut designed to play with the utmost precision, but it does absolutely nothing for me personally.

I appreciate that they are the absolute elite of the elite, and in terms of football ability they are second-to-none, but that's not personally what I watch football for. I've been watching the EFL and non-league play-offs and have found those a much more compelling prospect in comparison.

It had an air of novelty about it when they first got taken over and started to win things when they'd previously been starved of top-level success, but now, however many years later, there's nothing that I can personally get enthused about with them. It's the way I felt about Chelsea when Abramovich and Mourinho first went in there, and suspect something similar will happen to Newcastle in time.

Forget about the club and just appreciate the football played. I thought it was a great game to watch and Citeh were superb. Had it been the other way round I still would have said the same.
I can only watch one club with passion (and that includes the England team) and that is DRFC.
Objectively I can enjoy watching  a team play great football but at the end of the day it really means nothing to me.

Oh I've got nothing in particular against Man City as a club, don't get me wrong. I just don't find them that interesting to watch. It's almost too perfect. I think I referred to it before as machine-like. Might sound silly but surely it can't just be me? Maybe it is.  :ermm:
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: glosterred on May 18, 2023, 12:01:37 pm
Kicked on since we beat them in the league cup.

They sure have, I dread to think what the score would have been if we had played them in an FA or FL Cup game last season.

So do I but I'd love us to draw them in one of the cup comps, especially if it was at the ECO-Power.

COYR
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 18, 2023, 12:13:54 pm
I find them completely soulless and dull to be honest.

I know this is all completely based on narrative, and I respect the fact that some people enjoy watching a team stuffed from 1 to 11 (and the rest) full of the world's best players (plus manager) at the cost of billions become an almost machine-like juggernaut designed to play with the utmost precision, but it does absolutely nothing for me personally.

I appreciate that they are the absolute elite of the elite, and in terms of football ability they are second-to-none, but that's not personally what I watch football for. I've been watching the EFL and non-league play-offs and have found those a much more compelling prospect in comparison.

It had an air of novelty about it when they first got taken over and started to win things when they'd previously been starved of top-level success, but now, however many years later, there's nothing that I can personally get enthused about with them. It's the way I felt about Chelsea when Abramovich and Mourinho first went in there, and suspect something similar will happen to Newcastle in time.

This is entirely correct analysis.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Highland Rover on May 18, 2023, 12:21:18 pm

 That's just how I feel as well
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Jonathan on May 18, 2023, 12:45:57 pm
We’re all entitled to our opinions. As a football fan I absolutely loved watching them last night, it was breathtaking. I do appreciate the resentment at how they’ve achieved their success. But I can honestly say I didn’t watch that game analysing how they’ve brought in the players they have, or chuntering to myself about how their history or commercial viability isn’t as solid as say Manchester United who have all their fans to fall back on from Thameside to Tunbridge Wells and beyond. I just enjoyed it for what it was, a quite brilliant footballing display.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 18, 2023, 01:37:03 pm
Ok.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: selby on May 18, 2023, 01:52:57 pm
  I find football and money annoying, if the ownwers have got it why stop them for spending money, it is a competitive game and whoever has the most money gets the best players, but, the fair play is basically playing into the hands of the old guard that have always been the top clubs, again if owners have the money why stop them spending it.
  However if like Leicester City, Southampton, and Leeds United and Barcelona are caught with your pants down spending money you have not got and cheating the other clubs, the authorities will do everything they can to keep you in the competitions when plainly according to the rules they should be expelled from the league if not out of receivership before a certain date as all three clubs were guilty of.
   Relegation this year could really be Karma for some of us with long memories, if only they had been treated like Chester, Bury, Hereford etc. the game and some small companies would be far better off.
   So, in short spend money you have got because you are rich is wrong, spend money you have not got is still wrong, but doesn't attract the same publicity or wrath of the authorities who will bend over backwards to help bankrupts of a certain size, if you are a small club start again at the base of the pyramid.
  Manchester City are a great side, and to watch as well, and they are upsetting the old guard of British, German, Italian, and Spanish teams that has been done before by Ajax, Stau Bucharest and Yugoslavian sides that caused the formation of the Champions League, because it upset the apple cart.
  Having ever richer owners is the latest fashion leaving the Juventus, Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Munich etc cartel behind, hence the new league being put forward.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on May 18, 2023, 06:51:54 pm
They are are a very good side, not a patch on the Barcelona side, that even Man Utd’s great sides of the time, couldn’t put a glove on.
To be compared to them they will have to win a few European cups yet.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: drfchound on May 18, 2023, 06:59:39 pm
Every journey starts with just one step.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 18, 2023, 07:05:41 pm
I find them completely soulless and dull to be honest.

I know this is all completely based on narrative, and I respect the fact that some people enjoy watching a team stuffed from 1 to 11 (and the rest) full of the world's best players (plus manager) at the cost of billions become an almost machine-like juggernaut designed to play with the utmost precision, but it does absolutely nothing for me personally.

I appreciate that they are the absolute elite of the elite, and in terms of football ability they are second-to-none, but that's not personally what I watch football for. I've been watching the EFL and non-league play-offs and have found those a much more compelling prospect in comparison.

It had an air of novelty about it when they first got taken over and started to win things when they'd previously been starved of top-level success, but now, however many years later, there's nothing that I can personally get enthused about with them. It's the way I felt about Chelsea when Abramovich and Mourinho first went in there, and suspect something similar will happen to Newcastle in time.

Sums up how I feel about this perfectly.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: richtherover on May 18, 2023, 07:41:07 pm
Anybody remember Tony Coleman being transferred to City? Can't see them wanting any of our current players.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: idler on May 18, 2023, 08:52:04 pm
I even remember Nicky Limber going there.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Campsall rover on May 18, 2023, 09:11:53 pm
They are are a very good side, not a patch on the Barcelona side, that even Man Utd’s great sides of the time, couldn’t put a glove on.
To be compared to them they will have to win a few European cups yet.
Think they could very easily win 3 on the trot.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: southwestexile on May 22, 2023, 02:27:29 pm
Arguably two of the worst ECL semis ever screened. Both so one sided. Absolute yawn fest. Can not get lezzed up about Citeh! Like a previous poster has said. It’s simply what you can do with a bottomless pit of Arab money and pay lawyers to get you around FPP. It’s just embarrassing it’s taken them so long to buy their way to ECL glory. Come on Inter!


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Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Donnyjim on May 23, 2023, 11:06:02 pm
Arguably two of the worst ECL semis ever screened. Both so one sided. Absolute yawn fest. Can not get lezzed up about Citeh! Like a previous poster has said. It’s simply what you can do with a bottomless pit of Arab money and pay lawyers to get you around FPP. It’s just embarrassing it’s taken them so long to buy their way to ECL glory. Come on Inter!


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Quite a few secret Citeh! fans on here clearly. Yes, you have to admire what they have been able to do with £3 billion. It’s a real achievement, equally as good as Leicester winning the Prem.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on May 24, 2023, 03:01:33 am
They are are a very good side, not a patch on the Barcelona side, that even Man Utd’s great sides of the time, couldn’t put a glove on.
To be compared to them they will have to win a few European cups yet.
Think they could very easily win 3 on the trot.

I’m not sure about that. I don’t think the final they face against Inter is a foregone conclusion. If any countries club side can stop them, it is an Italian one. Very good side, no doubt. The best in our country obviously, but in a one off game, anything is possible.
I see Inter stopping them winning it.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: wilts rover on May 24, 2023, 06:01:13 am
I would have a lot more respect for posters who say they dont like Man City because they have spent a lot of money if they hadn't on other threads said we should spend a lot more money.

I haven't watched a Champions League game since they stopped being on ITV. Wont be watching this one either.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: KingKendrick on May 24, 2023, 07:49:38 pm
I would have a lot more respect for posters who say they dont like Man City because they have spent a lot of money if they hadn't on other threads said we should spend a lot more money.

I haven't watched a Champions League game since they stopped being on ITV. Wont be watching this one either.

All the finals have been streamed live on YouTube ever since BT sport gained the rights
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Donnywolf on May 24, 2023, 08:49:33 pm
I would have a lot more respect for posters who say they dont like Man City because they have spent a lot of money if they hadn't on other threads said we should spend a lot more money.

I haven't watched a Champions League game since they stopped being on ITV. Wont be watching this one either.

True .... and if someone came along and bankrolled Rovers ( without anything contentious like at Cardiff and Hull ) I for one would be happy

A lot of people slate Man City as buying the Title. Manchester United insist they would never "buy success or the Title" but they have been doing it forever

From Harry Gregg signed from Doncaster Rovers in 1957 for £23,500 then a WORLD RECORD for a Goalkeeper to Paul Pogba at 94.5 million quid (ffs) suggests otherwise
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Donnyjim on May 24, 2023, 11:20:32 pm
I would have a lot more respect for posters who say they dont like Man City because they have spent a lot of money if they hadn't on other threads said we should spend a lot more money.

I haven't watched a Champions League game since they stopped being on ITV. Wont be watching this one either.

True .... and if someone came along and bankrolled Rovers ( without anything contentious like at Cardiff and Hull ) I for one would be happy

A lot of people slate Man City as buying the Title. Manchester United insist they would never "buy success or the Title" but they have been doing it forever

From Harry Gregg signed from Doncaster Rovers in 1957 for £23,500 then a WORLD RECORD for a Goalkeeper to Paul Pogba at 94.5 million quid (ffs) suggests otherwise

Like I was saying lol - Everyone’s second team on here for some queer reason.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Campsall rover on May 25, 2023, 08:40:29 am
A lot of hypocrisy on here.

Man Utd & Chelsea you could say bought previous previous titles.

City wouldn’t undoubtedly be the team they are without all the money they have to purchase players. Having said that they still need moulding into a team that wins wins and wins.
Guardiola is an exceptional man manager and Coach.
To build the team spirit he has with 25 players who are all capable of being regular 1st team starters is an exceptional achievement.
To win the title 5/6 times takes some doing in our Premier League.

Having said that there is far too much money swilling about at the top 6/7 clubs and for someone like Leicester City to win the league is now really a one in 50 year chance.
It just isn’t a level playing field and hasn’t been for about 25 yrs now at least
In the good old days of the 60’s 70’s & 80’s it was much more of an even playing field but even in those decades Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, Leeds, Man Utd, & Arsenal where the dominant 6 clubs.
But unfashionable clubs like Nott’m Forest, Ipswich Town, Derby County and Aston Villa and one or two others had their success’s.
Yes Villa have a great history so calling them unfashionable may be incorrect but in todays Premier league world they possibly are seen as that.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: i_ateallthepies on May 25, 2023, 08:40:35 am
I would have a lot more respect for posters who say they dont like Man City because they have spent a lot of money if they hadn't on other threads said we should spend a lot more money.

I haven't watched a Champions League game since they stopped being on ITV. Wont be watching this one either.

True .... and if someone came along and bankrolled Rovers ( without anything contentious like at Cardiff and Hull ) I for one would be happy

A lot of people slate Man City as buying the Title. Manchester United insist they would never "buy success or the Title" but they have been doing it forever

From Harry Gregg signed from Doncaster Rovers in 1957 for £23,500 then a WORLD RECORD for a Goalkeeper to Paul Pogba at 94.5 million quid (ffs) suggests otherwise

Like I was saying lol - Everyone’s second team on here for some queer reason.

I think you picked the wrong poster to level that accusation at, Donnyjim... the clue's in the name.
Title: Re: Man City
Post by: Donnywolf on May 25, 2023, 08:54:22 am
Yes Pies a perhaps unknown "quirk" for some but I confirm I was at Football League Cup Final in 1974 and as this Video will show   I WAS jumping up and down twice as much as the City fans

https://youtu.be/NDRKjjFkkJ0