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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Ryaldinhio on May 23, 2023, 09:41:51 pm
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Personally I would love to have him back. Absolute legend in my eyes who would smash 30goals in L2 given the right service. Seems to be split opinion on here so thought I'd ask......
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I hope he does, but very very much doubt he would come, based on league 2 plus wages way too high now
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More important to spend the budget getting quality players in every position that compliment each other and have the right attributes to play the desired system.
There’s more sensible ways to make someone the clubs highest paid player. Charlie Austin didn’t exactly tear it up at Swindon.
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More important to spend the budget getting quality players in every position that compliment each other and have the right attributes to play the desired system.
There’s more sensible ways to make someone the clubs highest paid player. Charlie Austin didn’t exactly tear it up at Swindon.
This vote is totally hypothetical. I haven't asked about spending majority of budget on him.
The answer shouldn't be assumed or based on wages or cost.
Just simply would you want him back or not.
I genuinly can't believe that we have sat through that sh**e last season watching Miller isolated up front (either one) and people would say no to Billy?!?!?!
Madness to me.
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More important to spend the budget getting quality players in every position that compliment each other and have the right attributes to play the desired system.
There’s more sensible ways to make someone the clubs highest paid player. Charlie Austin didn’t exactly tear it up at Swindon.
This vote is totally hypothetical. I haven't asked about spending majority of budget on him.
The answer shouldn't be assumed or based on wages or cost.
Just simply would you want him back or not.
I genuinly can't believe that we have sat through that sh**e last season watching Miller isolated up front (either one) and people would say no to Billy?!?!?!
Madness to me.
Even Billy played in that system last season would of looked rubbish.
It makes sense to target the group of players that we need rather than blowing a big hole in the budget on one player, even an old favourite like Billy. It will be that important to have the whole team being better than its individual components.
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There’s grabbing at straws & there’s grasping at straws.
I know we’re all anxious to see names come in but, behave yourself!
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We have spoke about him returning several times but he's managed to prolong his career at the top perhaps longer than expected.
Assuming he's relatively fit, who wouldn't want Billy Sharp in our ranks with his sheer zest for the game, infectious enthusiasm and still scoring goals.
I always hoped he would give us one last season before retirement. He would create a buzz around the place.
I'd like to think he'd not be motivated by money but a wish to give something back to his second club, having achieved another promotion for his first love. Bonuses based on appearances and goals would be ideal.
Still believe we will need another physical presence up front .
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I would carry him from Sheffield on my shoulders.
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Cant believe we have had 18 votes for No!
Who wouldn't want him back?!
I have already said not budget etc.
Someone give me a good reason not to have him back other than money?!?!?!?!
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There’s grabbing at straws & there’s grasping at straws.
I know we’re all anxious to see names come in but, behave yourself!
Some discussions/debates can be for fun you know. Not everything has to be nailed on to discuss.....
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Stranger things have happened. Billy won't be motivated about money imo. He won't want to move house. He will sign for a local side I think.
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It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see Billy come back. It wouldn’t be for money at this stage of his career, I think he would be reasonably well off by now. The challenge of helping to drag us up the leagues would motivate him.
The only doubt is that Sheff Utd’s budget isn’t supposed to be the biggest and there is a chance that the decision to let him go might be reversed.
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We can dream,Sammy!
If he has anything in common with Richard Wood, it’s probably his love of playing football and why not with a Club who loves him to bits? Who would you rather have come on from the bench, Agard or Sharp?
NO BRAINER!
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I have memories of quite a few big name strikers coming to Rovers at the end of their careers and being terrible. I would hate to see that happen to Billy Sharp.
Lets find the next Billy Sharp/John Marquis rather than a past one.
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Would score for fun in this division. And going up is the most important thing right now. So it’s a yes.
However I’d hope we use this one time cash injection to sign some players with resale value so we are secure for a few years
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Astonished at the amount who wouldn't have him back, who are they holding out for , Messi?
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McCann said the other week there’s no point signing a top player if they don’t suit what we’re trying to do.
We’ve said for months and months we need a physical presence up top. McCann has said we will also be playing pressing football. Billy is neither big or quick.
He won’t win any headers in a 4-3-3.
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Billy would bag goals in this league, just look at the games against Wrexham in Cup he was a step ahead.
Also when I have seen him play for Blades over last 2 or 3 years he looks fitter than when we had him on loan in championship.
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If there was any chance we could ever bring him back then we would have to jump at the opportunity, I know TB has already pledged substantial funds, but I’m sure this would be grounds for extra investment on top of that.
It would help put more bums on seats too.
He might not play 38 games 90 minutes a week, but he would be such an asset to the team, a proven winner.
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Like Wood, a tremendous asset in the dressing room and makes GM’s job so much easier!
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McCann said the other week there’s no point signing a top player if they don’t suit what we’re trying to do.
We’ve said for months and months we need a physical presence up top. McCann has said we will also be playing pressing football. Billy is neither big or quick.
He won’t win any headers in a 4-3-3.
He might play 5-3-2 ncRover
With the players we have that is definitely a possibility.
No problem playing wing backs as long as we have 3 in the middle of midfield.
Schofield should have done it with the players we had but :headbang: Need say no more.
Billy Sharpe with a Marquis type player up front with him ? Yes please.
Get both of those 2 How many would they get in this league ?
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Let's be real Sharp would be an outstanding signing even as a sub at times, he's unlikely to play every game he rarely has done that in a season even at his peak.
Any club would be stupid not to take him. I feel he wouldn't want to drop to this level with us right now and there's surely other opportunities for him, even at 37 it would be a huge coup.
Its on the very unlikely list for me.
But in terms of our attack we only have Miller who's an out and out striker assuming Griffiths leaves. For me we need a target man type, sharp type box striker and at least one more who can play wide. Mccanns style will get the best out of molyneux, I think he'll be huge for us next year.
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I'd love this to be true but surely a championship club will give him 20k a week for a year if Sheff United don't decide to give him a short term contract and a final shot at the Prem off the bench.
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It's like asking hypothetically who would like Alick Jeffrey back, only in Sharp's case it is a possibility.
No brainer.
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I would carry him from Sheffield on my shoulders.
He should be here by Christmas then. ;)
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McCann said the other week there’s no point signing a top player if they don’t suit what we’re trying to do.
We’ve said for months and months we need a physical presence up top. McCann has said we will also be playing pressing football. Billy is neither big or quick.
He won’t win any headers in a 4-3-3.
He might play 5-3-2 ncRover
With the players we have that is definitely a possibility.
No problem playing wing backs as long as we have 3 in the middle of midfield.
Schofield should have done it with the players we had but :headbang: Need say no more.
Billy Sharpe with a Marquis type player up front with him ? Yes please.
Get both of those 2 How many would they get in this league ?
Was wondering this, as we now have 5 center backs in Wood, Anderson, Olowu, Faulkner and Long, with Younger on trial to potentially signing. Either one or two of that lot could go out on loan otherwise we're a bit overloaded to play only 2 at the back.
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I would carry him from Sheffield on my shoulders.
If he needs carrying then it's a no from me
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Like Wood, a tremendous asset in the dressing room and makes GM’s job so much easier!
Word for work what I was going to say, his value would stretch way beyond the pitch. We also need some big moments for the crowd this year, so heart over head decisions to get us jumping again. One of the loudest I've heard the Keepmoat is when Billy came back from injury and was being about to be subbed on (vs Crystal Palace???) and the roar and atmosphere was incredible. Bring me a few moments like that back and I'll be happy.
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Billy is perhaps my all time favourite Rovers player but - even ignoring wages - no I wouldnt have him back. He has been restricted to 5-10 minute cameos at end of a game for Sufc - we need someone who can last for 90 mins. Pity but those legs have gone.
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I don’t get why some ppl think it’s so unrealistic. He’s 37 years old and for the majority of his career he’s stayed local, if he’s going to carry on in England I can’t see him going to a club that’s not local so why not come to his second club with fans that adore him and where there’s a good chance of finishing with a promotion. I don’t think he will be motivated too much by money either.
And he has said previously that he would like to have another spell with us before he retires.
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Billy is perhaps my all time favourite Rovers player but - even ignoring wages - no I wouldnt have him back. He has been restricted to 5-10 minute cameos at end of a game for Sufc - we need someone who can last for 90 mins. Pity but those legs have gone.
but that is for a side who have just won promotion to the prem, how do u know he wouldn’t be able to last 90 mins in league 2. We also have another very good league 2 striker in George Miller who scored 11 league goals last season in a team where he was isolated and didn’t get many chances so if we were to play 2 up top they would compliment each other well imo with their styles of play or could rotate them if we play with a 3.
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His age will obviously be against him regarding selection in a promotion-winning team in the Championship. However, there's a massive difference between that and playing in the fourth tier.
I dare say that none of our squad next season will be good enough to play in a bottom-half Championship side, never mind a runners-up outfit.
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His age will obviously be against him regarding selection in a promotion-winning team in the Championship. However, there's a massive difference between that and playing in the fourth tier.
I dare say that none of our squad next season will be good enough to play in a bottom-half Championship side, never mind a runners-up outfit.
The best striker in league 2 woukdnt of got anymore game time for sheff u last season. It’s a bit daft to say he couldn’t get a game for one of the best sides in the championship so he’d be no good for a league 2 side
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Yes it was a poor team but part of George Miller’s isolation was due to the fact he couldn’t hold the ball up either aerially or on the deck.
Billy would have much better hold up play on the floor but would experience the same problems George did against L2 defenders, as we aren’t going to be playing football to Sheff U standard.
Also if you’ve said you’re going to play pressing football you don’t sign a 37 year old to lead the line. It just doesn’t make sense.
For the record Billy is one of my favourite ever Rovers players.
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League Two isn't easy. There's alot of wasted energy as there's lots of errors in the games due to the obvious reduced quality.
Putting experienced quality players together isn't sufficient. We could look back at the Conference team with Southall, Newell, Nichol, Tommy Wright, Sheridan etc. It was a struggle.
We need a bit of everything and if the quality on show isn't clicking, we need blood and guts to do the basics too.
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Personally I would love to have him back. Absolute legend in my eyes who would smash 30goals in L2 given the right service. Seems to be split opinion on here so thought I'd ask......
No way would I waste a good chunk of our budget on him, leave him as a legend, won’t get many 90 minute games were ever he is next season
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I gather he is on £21.000 a week at Sheff Utd.
So unless he is prepared to come to us for 1 fifth of that or even less then it’s a non starter.
Don’t see it happening. He will I assume take an offer from someone in the Championship or League 1 who will pay him at least double what we could realistically offer him.
He is at the end of his career so you can’t blame him if he wants to take the best money on offer.
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It all depends what Billy wants to do obviously. Is he wanting to get into coaching afterwards?
Whatever he does next he knows he’s not got long left as a player so he will want to get the next move right (assuming Blades don’t offer anything). He also knows the support he would get here. If he’s only got 1 season he could do a lot worse than come back to Donny. As long as the deal suits everyone. But he may prefer Rotherham or Barnsley or Sunderland etc.
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Steve Jones from DFP doesn't think it's likely.
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Billy loved his time here, if JR was involved there may have been a slim chance, but I can't really see it. It would be wonderful to be proved wrong however .....
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If he leaves Sheff Utd, Rotherham or Barnsley would be more likely destinations.
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Steve Jones from DFP doesn't think it's likely.
I think we all knew that in all honesty, nice to dream though
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Sorry but its a no from me. I can still remember thinking mike newell would score for fun when he joined us but he played like he was well past it. I believe he was only 34 at the time.
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Sorry but its a no from me. I can still remember thinking mike newell would score for fun when he joined us but he played like he was well past it. I believe he was only 34 at the time.
Newell played like he couldn’t be arsed, as did John Sheridan
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For every Mike Newell there's a Steve Nicol
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Steve Nicol still loved playing football. Mike Newell didn't.
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Like anyone I’d be excited at the prospect of Sharp coming back, but I’d be even more excited at the thought of getting a younger striker with the potential to be like Billy Sharp in the future.
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The 2023/24 campaign would feel more like a legends charity season if it was upto a lot of our supporters. I would prefer the club to properly scout and look at new fresh talent with experience around them. Just feel Sharp would take a hell of a lot of wages even at his age.
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Stranger things have happened. Billy won't be motivated about money imo. He won't want to move house. He will sign for a local side I think.
Does Billy live at Boston Spa.
Not a long way to Donny.
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Steve Nicol still loved playing football. Mike Newell didn't.
Yes, although much to our disappointment, Nichol packed in and took up a coaching job in the states.
Newell was just happy to take up a place at the bar.
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His age will obviously be against him regarding selection in a promotion-winning team in the Championship. However, there's a massive difference between that and playing in the fourth tier.
I dare say that none of our squad next season will be good enough to play in a bottom-half Championship side, never mind a runners-up outfit.
The best striker in league 2 woukdnt of got anymore game time for sheff u last season. It’s a bit daft to say he couldn’t get a game for one of the best sides in the championship so he’d be no good for a league 2 side
I didn't!
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His age will obviously be against him regarding selection in a promotion-winning team in the Championship. However, there's a massive difference between that and playing in the fourth tier.
I dare say that none of our squad next season will be good enough to play in a bottom-half Championship side, never mind a runners-up outfit.
The best striker in league 2 woukdnt of got anymore game time for sheff u last season. It’s a bit daft to say he couldn’t get a game for one of the best sides in the championship so he’d be no good for a league 2 side
I didn't!
I didn’t mean to quote you mate,
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If Grant sees the double-whammy effect that BS would provide then we are in . He would add momentum to the surge in season ticket sales and guile to our attacking options..
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Steve Nicol still loved playing football. Mike Newell didn't.
What a fine example of a passionate footballer Steve Nichol was in complete contrast to Newell. I wonder if it ever entered Newell’s head that our fans were spending their hard earned money on his wages and receiving nothing in return.
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I don’t know who was worse for us in the conference up front it’s a toss up between Mike Mule and Carl Awful.
Mind you Justin Jackson wasn’t much better.
Thank God for Paul Barnes.
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If Grant sees the double-whammy effect that BS would provide then we are in . He would add momentum to the surge in season ticket sales and guile to our attacking options..
ST sales doesn't win you matches, as Bradford City will attest to!
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I don’t know who was worse for us in the conference up front it’s a toss up between Mike Mule and Carl Awful.
Mind you Justin Jackson wasn’t much better.
Thank God for Paul Barnes.
From what I remember at least Alford tried hard. He scored against Worksop or someone like that in the Sheffield Cup and went nuts, you could see that his drought was hurting him. Newell on the other hand couldn’t give less of a toss, and Jackson wasn’t much better.
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Stranger things have happened. Billy won't be motivated about money imo. He won't want to move house. He will sign for a local side I think.
Does Billy live at Boston Spa.
Not a long way to Donny.
Closer to championship bound Leeds. Can’t imagine a 80% wage cut in a nice big Boston Spa house would go down well with Mrs Sharp!
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I don’t know who was worse for us in the conference up front it’s a toss up between Mike Mule and Carl Awful.
Mind you Justin Jackson wasn’t much better.
Thank God for Paul Barnes.
From what I remember at least Alford tried hard. He scored against Worksop or someone like that in the Sheffield Cup and went nuts, you could see that his drought was hurting him. Newell on the other hand couldn’t give less of a toss, and Jackson wasn’t much better.
Alford was probably celebrating on a goals bonus to fund his cocaine habit.
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His age will obviously be against him regarding selection in a promotion-winning team in the Championship. However, there's a massive difference between that and playing in the fourth tier.
I dare say that none of our squad next season will be good enough to play in a bottom-half Championship side, never mind a runners-up outfit.
The best striker in league 2 woukdnt of got anymore game time for sheff u last season. It’s a bit daft to say he couldn’t get a game for one of the best sides in the championship so he’d be no good for a league 2 side
Legs.
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That reminds me, some of us said his legs had gone when he had his last spell with us!
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That reminds me, some of us said his legs had gone when he had his last spell with us!
Didn't Billy go in to score 10 goals in the Premier League .. Old Duffer !!
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Billy will end his career at the Blades.
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Billy would be a great signing. He still has the legs to go another 2-3 seasons. We need to balance up the experience with youth and energy.
He would take a massive pay cut coming to us.
Our immediate concern isn’t what players can do in a few years, it’s what they can do for us this season. We need promotion and an improvement throughout the club in the football side.