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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: DonnyBazR0ver on May 26, 2023, 08:20:03 am
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Sorry to poach the title Selby but I think we ought to have a thread devoted to this so we can keep all related info in one place.
We already have Ian Lawlor and Richard Wood in the bag and to the best of our knowledge, McCann said we have made some offers and are waiting to hear back.
Here's the latest update from DFP
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-boss-grant-mccann-makes-big-announcement-on-transfers-4156788
I'm not sure what the big announcement is like. Just seems common sense to me.
I'm sure we'll come across plenty of click bait, just wild speculation from the press and social media....or may be not so wild who knows.
Anything not in the media, where you might hear a tip off about a specific player, please refer to the Rumour Mill.
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DBR that's ok no problems and I hope it stimulates good points. My hope is for an experienced striker, The rest of the signings especially in mid field I would like to be young, athletic, enthusiastic, fit box to box players and a good defensive mid fielder.
There are good players who fit the bill below EFL level who given the chance would give value added to the club and would not cost the earth.
The best of the u18s want good loans into men's football and train every day with the first team group so we negate the big jump from academy football, and lots of friendlies behind closed doors with mixed teams against other clubs u23s or reserves even teams like Gainsborough, North Ferriby etc, get them games they can learn from.
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Yes, I agree with all that Selby.
I mentioned in a previous post about the spine of the team being one we are prepared to pay for in terms of wages and possibly fees. I think that's what the DFP article was referring to. We may have made offers to clubs for contracted player(s)
Sure, the extra funds from TB should give us more leeway although, I'm sure we all agree, we wouldn't want to be wasting money on fees where it's not necessary.
With Lawlor, we may have saved a bit of money there. Wood should bring that extra solidity and organisation at the back. The midfield and centre forward key positions are the priorities. A midfield boss who's an all-rounder, equally adept at defending and attacking. Someone capable of dictating the pace of the game. A Whiteman type if you will. With someone like this, I'm sure we would see better from Close and Biggins etc.
A centre forward who scores goals and can work in any formation being able to bring others into play, create space for others etc.
That still leaves us a few spaces to add to the squad to provide depth and options including the loan market.
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I think we need at least the following positions.
Right back
3 midfielders
1 striker
2 wingers/wide forwards
1 who can play anywhere across the front line and cover the number 9 role (possibly a loan)
Hopefully Seaman signs as cover to a new right back and I hope Younger proves his fitness because I think he would offer good cover at centre back and right back if needed.
We could potentially need another goalkeeper depending on the Jones situation.
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Just sign players that can perform consistently at a level equal or greater than a top end L2 player. It’s not hard but we seem to keep signing players that have never showed the capability to do that prior to joining then go on to reinforce that after joining.
We guess, simple as that. Sometimes players fall into our lap, Wood is probably one of those, but there is absolutely no real process involved that is smarter than the competition.
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I see that Ferguson has made Tomlinson and Pym available for transfer, and oddly Clarke-Harris. Can only assume latter has refused to sign a new deal and they are trying to monetise him while they can.
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I see that Ferguson has made Tomlinson and Pym available for transfer, and oddly Clarke-Harris. Can only assume latter has refused to sign a new deal and they are trying to monetise him while they can.
Yeah, I think it must be that. I read yesterday that they'd "reluctantly" accepted transfer requests from a couple of players. Looking at that list I'd assume it's JCH and Frankie Kent.
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It would be great if we could go in for Clarke-Harris, he would score a bolt load at this level. Not going to happen though not our market that we shop in.
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It would be great if we could go in for Clarke-Harris, he would score a bolt load at this level. Not going to happen though not our market that we shop in.
How many exactly can a 'bolt' hold? ;-)
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He looked totally disinterested and pi55ed off in the second leg of play offs
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It would be great if we could go in for Clarke-Harris, he would score a bolt load at this level. Not going to happen though not our market that we shop in.
Well Grant said we've made 'offers' and given their previous connection, I wouldn't rule it out. He's not getting any younger so I doubt we would offer their asking price like and maybe with the recent spat, between McCann and McAnthony, it's less likely.
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I think the idea of Donny Rovers paying a fee for the division above’s top scorer is a tad unrealistic.
Pym statistically as bad as Mitchell.
I don’t really think any of them are the right profile or in priority positions except maybe Ollie Norburn if he’d drop a division.
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Are we in a transition period of rebuilding, player recruitment i not precise science but getting the right players can take several transfer windows.
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JCH is totally unrealistic, forget that one.
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It would be great if we could go in for Clarke-Harris, he would score a bolt load at this level. Not going to happen though not our market that we shop in.
Well Grant said we've made 'offers' and given their previous connection, I wouldn't rule it out. He's not getting any younger so I doubt we would offer their asking price like and maybe with the recent spat, between McCann and McAnthony, it's less likely.
He’s scored 57 goals in his last 2 seasons in League One, sandwiching a season where he got a dozen goals in a very poor Championship side. Absolutely no chance he’d come to us unless we were to offer insane money, and even then extremely unlikely. He’s also 28, not exactly getting on.
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It would be great if we could go in for Clarke-Harris, he would score a bolt load at this level. Not going to happen though not our market that we shop in.
Well Grant said we've made 'offers' and given their previous connection, I wouldn't rule it out. He's not getting any younger so I doubt we would offer their asking price like and maybe with the recent spat, between McCann and McAnthony, it's less likely.
More chance Schofield managing Real Madrid than us signing JCH this summer.
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Can see Wrexham splashing the cash on JCH.
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Andy Cook has rejected an offer from Bradford City - fantastic Centre Forward in L1 and L2.
Come on Grant - get him in and it really would be game on.
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Andy Cook has rejected an offer from Bradford City - fantastic Centre Forward in L1 and L2.
Come on Grant - get him in and it really would be game on.
I'd imagine he is after Lge 1 football but there's no harm in enquiring!
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I see that Ferguson has made Tomlinson and Pym available for transfer, and oddly Clarke-Harris. Can only assume latter has refused to sign a new deal and they are trying to monetise him while they can.
Isn't it Peterborough's policy to transfer list all players in the last year of their contract?
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We aren’t going to be bidding for and we aren’t going to be signing Cook or Clarke-Harris.
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Andy Cook has rejected an offer from Bradford City - fantastic Centre Forward in L1 and L2.
Come on Grant - get him in and it really would be game on.
He has been tapped up then. Will be on decent money at City I suspect.
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Cook would be a great acquisition but I fear he is still beyond our price range/wage structure
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He’s rejected a contract from Stevenage, not Bradford hasn’t he?
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We will be looking at out of contract players. Pretty sure there will be some rich pickings to be had.
Players like Clarke Harris are going to be in the Championship next season I suspect or possibly at Derby or Sheff Wed in League 1
Cook will be looking for a club in League 1 that can match or better his wages at Bradford. Otherwise he will be going nowhere.
No way will we be paying anyone over 3.000 per week in League 2 and why should we.
Our budget doesn’t need blowing on 1/2/3 players.
We need to get 6/7 in that will give our squad the depth it needs to get out of this league.
2 already in. So another 4/5 required.
Our budget needs spending with plenty of thought behind it.
Forget the Sharp’s & Clarke Harris’s they simply are not realistic.
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Where do you get 6/7 from, Camps, as GM has clearly stated he wants 8, so that means 6 more to get! Now, I’m not sure if, out of that 6, some, or all, of the lads who’ve been offered deals, are included? If that was the case, it only leaves 2 more new signings to get.
I don’t think GM does mean that - I think he wants 6 more new signings. And it’s quite easy to suggest 3 positions that are yet to be filled, namely RB, DM and target man, which completes the spine of the team.
IF we’re true to our word, that we’re going for promotion, then there is still a lot of work to be done.
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New number one
Right back
Defensive midfielder
Number 10
Winger
Striker
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Where do you get 6/7 from, Camps, as GM has clearly stated he wants 8, so that means 6 more to get! Now, I’m not sure if, out of that 6, some, or all, of the lads who’ve been offered deals, are included? If that was the case, it only leaves 2 more new signings to get.
I don’t think GM does mean that - I think he wants 6 more new signings. And it’s quite easy to suggest 3 positions that are yet to be filled, namely RM, DM and target man, which completes the spine of the team.
IF we’re true to our word, that we’re going for promotion, then there is still a lot of work to be done.
Well imo we need 6/7 If GM wants 8 great. That’s only 1 more than 7 Alan. :)
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New number one
Right back
Defensive midfielder
Number 10
Winger
Striker
Think Lawlor is earmarked for no 1 especially if Jones signs a new contract.
We need a RB, 2 new central midfielders and 2 strikers. We only have Miller and Goodman now don’t forget.
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Cook and JCH are big lumps anyway. We can do better can't we?
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Where do you get 6/7 from, Camps, as GM has clearly stated he wants 8, so that means 6 more to get! Now, I’m not sure if, out of that 6, some, or all, of the lads who’ve been offered deals, are included? If that was the case, it only leaves 2 more new signings to get.
I don’t think GM does mean that - I think he wants 6 more new signings. And it’s quite easy to suggest 3 positions that are yet to be filled, namely RB, DM and target man, which completes the spine of the team.
IF we’re true to our word, that we’re going for promotion, then there is still a lot of work to be done.
No way would GM have come back unless he had been guaranteed a budget ypthat gives him a chance.
No way would Richard Wood have signed unless he thought the Club were serious about going up this next season.
Yes he will want 8 new players I am sure. Especially if he can offload those who he wants to that are on contracts.
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Cook and JCH are big lumps anyway. We can do better can't we?
Leading goalscorers in league one and league two. Surely that’s exactly the type of player we should be after.
Either would be great signings
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Don’t Peterborough just transfer list everyone who is in the last year of their contract?
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Cook and JCH are big lumps anyway. We can do better can't we?
Dreaming if you think we can do better than JCH at level we are at.
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Surely it’s a joke to suggest we could sign JCH. Cook would be a bit more realistic but even then it’d be a coup
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I see that Ferguson has made Tomlinson and Pym available for transfer, and oddly Clarke-Harris. Can only assume latter has refused to sign a new deal and they are trying to monetise him while they can.
Isn't it Peterborough's policy to transfer list all players in the last year of their contract?
Thats correct yes.
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A no.1 goalie
An attacking minded right back
A tough midfielder who can shield the back 4
A box to box midfielder who can cover ground
A target man who can put a shift in and bring others in to play
A fast left winger / forward.
Football is a simple game at this level. If we this tick those boxes well with decent players in their prime with our excellent manager we will get promoted no problem.
Signing unproven youth is fine here and there but we need a core group in the 24-29 age range with a bit of know-how. We have the budget to do that.
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Cook and JCH are big lumps anyway. We can do better can't we?
Leading goalscorers in league one and league two. Surely that’s exactly the type of player we should be after.
Either would be great signings
Not sure what you are expecting this window but I suspect you are going to be very disappointed if you think players like Clarke-Harris are in our price range.
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Cook and JCH are big lumps anyway. We can do better can't we?
Leading goalscorers in league one and league two. Surely that’s exactly the type of player we should be after.
Either would be great signings
Not sure what you are expecting this window but I suspect you are going to be very disappointed if you think players like Clarke-Harris are in our price range.
I wasn’t suggesting that at all, my response was just to baz who suggested we could do better than those 2
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Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones ?
Gk 3 - bottomly ?
Rb 1 - loan/permanent
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - woods
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook?
Cm 5 - loan/permanent
Cm 6 - loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - loan/sharp?
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Cook would be just the signing that would sell more season tickets and get the buzz back into the ground.
Someone who could score 20+ goals next season is exactly who we should be trying to sign.
We have also missed out on a very good box to box midfielder who has signed for Worksop Town.
Apparently he was the best player on the pitch every week in the spell he last had with them.
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Cook would be just the signing that would sell more season tickets and get the buzz back into the ground.
Someone who could score 20+ goals next season is exactly who we should be trying to sign.
We have also missed out on a very good box to box midfielder who has signed for Worksop Town.
Apparently he was the best player on the pitch every week in the spell he last had with them.
Worksop and the level we want to be at are worlds apart.
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Cook and JCH are big lumps anyway. We can do better can't we?
Leading goalscorers in league one and league two. Surely that’s exactly the type of player we should be after.
Either would be great signings
Not sure what you are expecting this window but I suspect you are going to be very disappointed if you think players like Clarke-Harris are in our price range.
I wasn’t suggesting that at all, my response was just to baz you suggested we could do better than those 2
I didn’t suggest that at all.
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Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones ?
Gk 3 - bottomly ?
Rb 1 - loan/permanent
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - woods
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook?
Cm 5 - loan/permanent
Cm 6 - loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - loan/sharp?
Ravenhill and I think also now Goodman are contracted for next season.
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Cook would be just the signing that would sell more season tickets and get the buzz back into the ground.
Someone who could score 20+ goals next season is exactly who we should be trying to sign.
We have also missed out on a very good box to box midfielder who has signed for Worksop Town.
Apparently he was the best player on the pitch every week in the spell he last had with them.
Worksop and the level we want to be at are worlds apart.
You wouldn’t have thought so last season.
By the way, this forum is still missing that tongue in cheek emoji.
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DBR was just joking.
Because they would want Football at a higher level and command large salaries we wouldn’t be realistically able to get either of them.
Therefore DBR was just saying they’re only big lumps anyway. So why would we want them.
Can’t believe anyone thought he was being serious.
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Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones ?
Gk 3 - bottomly ?
Rb 1 - loan/permanent
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - woods
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook?
Cm 5 - loan/permanent
Cm 6 - loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - loan/sharp?
Ravenhill and I think also now Goodman are contracted for next season.
Sorry, I left out that I believe
Goodman
Ravenhill
Degruchy
Kuleya
Should all be sent out on loan
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DBR was just joking.
Because they would want Football at a higher level and command large salaries we wouldn’t be realistically able to get either of them.
Therefore DBR was just saying they’re only big lumps anyway. So why would we want them.
Can’t believe anyone thought he was being serious.
Clarke-Harris also under contract so a fee would be involved as well, which we very rarely pay and almost never at the level this lad would demand.
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Can we ban the names Jonson Clarke-Harris and Andy Cook on this thread please. Anyone who thinks we have any chance of signing those two players this transfer window are on some seriously hard drugs.
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We can cross off a RB from the wanted list.
5 more required.
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Well you can cross right back off that list
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Beat me to it Alan lol
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Great news. Another one slots into place.
So that's two of my four from the spine and one of four for other positions.
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A no.1 goalie
An attacking minded right back
A tough midfielder who can shield the back 4
A box to box midfielder who can cover ground
A target man who can put a shift in and bring others in to play
A fast left winger / forward.
Football is a simple game at this level. If we this tick those boxes well with decent players in their prime with our excellent manager we will get promoted no problem.
Signing unproven youth is fine here and there but we need a core group in the 24-29 age range with a bit of know-how. We have the budget to do that.
You're right about our manager being excellent, and his choice for the No 1 goalie is Lawlor.
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Get in Liam Kinsella and Liam Kelly next and the midfields sorted.
If Partick don't go up I'd be straight to Scotland for Scott Tiffoney for the wing.
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Cracking summer so far. From desolation at the end of the season after another defeat under Schofield we've appointed McCann, released Williams and Mitchell and signed 3 players already. Well done all.
McCann very sensibly making the defence strong before moving forwards.
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Listening to GM’s interview, there could be another defender coming in next, before he starts to address the midfield. Strikers, he says, will take a little longer, as everyone is after them!
We’re going to have some choices in defence, as things look. I wonder if 1 or 2 are moving on?
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Reckon another full back
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Latest DFP update. Not too much to add to what McCann said.
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-closing-in-on-more-new-signings-following-jamie-sterrys-arrival-4160514
Could be close to one, maybe two....
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That info came out of GM’s interview, when talking about Sterry. One more defender and then we move onto midfield. Forwards will be later in the window.
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Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones ?
Gk 3 - bottomly ?
Rb 1 - loan/permanent
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - woods
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook?
Cm 5 - loan/permanent
Cm 6 - loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - loan/sharp?
So it looks like we can count on Westbrooke, Seaman, Jones and Bottomley.
So, for me that still leaves us looking for two known quality signings down the spine in the midfield and striker.
Then perhaps a further two low risk options in areas where McCann feels we need beefing up.
Of course any of the above could be loans.
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Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones ?
Gk 3 - bottomly ?
Rb 1 - loan/permanent
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook?
Cm 5 - loan/permanent
Cm 6 - loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - loan/sharp?
So now we're looking like this
Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - bottomly
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - permanent/loan?
Possibly three of McCanns eight still to come. I hope we can associate the word Quality and with a least two of those.
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I think it’s been said that we’re likely to bring in more than 8.
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Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones ?
Gk 3 - bottomly ?
Rb 1 - loan/permanent
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook?
Cm 5 - loan/permanent
Cm 6 - loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - loan/sharp?
So now we're looking like this
Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - bottomly
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - permanent/loan?
Possibly three of McCanns eight still to come. I hope we can associate the word Quality and with a least two of those.
Need a 6th forward there to make room for a pacey goal threat on the left and a target man in the middle.
A second left back option probably needs to be a bit more defensively solid than the other full backs like Maxwell and Seaman for balance.
Then a midfielder to screen the back 4.
That would bring total signings to 8 like Jonathan says.
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From what I have seen so far I genuinly feel/hope some money is being saved for a proper goal scorer and maybe a big partner up there.
I think the signings so far could be described as sensible/shrewd.
In that list above, now woods is here (new captain for me) I would put both Olowu and Faulkner above Anderson. I think Anderson needs to go.
I'm hoping Taylor gets fit aswell and we finally get to see him perform.
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From what I have seen so far I genuinly feel/hope some money is being saved for a proper goal scorer and maybe a big partner up there.
I think the signings so far could be described as sensible/shrewd.
In that list above, now woods is here (new captain for me) I would put both Olowu and Faulkner above Anderson. I think Anderson needs to go.
I'm hoping Taylor gets fit aswell and we finally get to see him perform.
Anderson to go where? He's under contract.
Tom was one of the players GM mentioned in his initial interview. I think you'll find he'll be second on GM's list of CBs every game.
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I think it’s been said that we’re likely to bring in more than 8.
Are people counting Westbrooke as one of the eight, or is he just seen as an extension like Jones, Seaman etc?
In other words in people's eyes have we brought in 4 or 5 of the 8(+) ?
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From what I have seen so far I genuinly feel/hope some money is being saved for a proper goal scorer and maybe a big partner up there.
I think the signings so far could be described as sensible/shrewd.
In that list above, now woods is here (new captain for me) I would put both Olowu and Faulkner above Anderson. I think Anderson needs to go.
I'm hoping Taylor gets fit aswell and we finally get to see him perform.
I don’t understand the need for a proven goal scorer to score the main chunk of the team’s goals. They come at an inflated cost and aren’t guaranteed to repeat it elsewhere.
If the team is strong and clicks nicely they can come from surprise sources or be shared out equally across the team. The team will also keep more clean sheets.
Leyton Orient won the league on a solid defence. Their top scorer Smyth got 10 (less than Miller). As did Stevenage’s top scorer Reid.
Hoskins for Northampton and Dennis for Carlisle weren’t that prolific in their careers previously, but they were part of good teams this year.
I think the business has been good so far on the whole.
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I think it’s been said that we’re likely to bring in more than 8.
Are people counting Westbrooke as one of the eight, or is he just seen as an extension like Jones, Seaman etc?
In other words in people's eyes have we brought in 4 or 5 of the 8(+) ?
I’d not count the contract renewals in the total of incomings. The word is we’ll bring in a minimum of (and probably more than) 8 new players. And if any of those on the retained list reject their offers then that total number of incomings is likely to rise further.
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From what I have seen so far I genuinly feel/hope some money is being saved for a proper goal scorer and maybe a big partner up there.
I think the signings so far could be described as sensible/shrewd.
In that list above, now woods is here (new captain for me) I would put both Olowu and Faulkner above Anderson. I think Anderson needs to go.
I'm hoping Taylor gets fit aswell and we finally get to see him perform.
I don’t understand the need for *a* proven goal scorer to score the main chunk of the team’s goals. They come at an inflated cost and aren’t guaranteed to repeat it elsewhere.
If the team is strong and clicks nicely they can come from surprise sources or be shared out equally across the team. The team will also keep more clean sheets.
Leyton Orient won the league on a solid defence. Their top scorer Smyth got 10 (less than Miller). As did Stevenage’s top scorer Reid.
Hoskins for Northampton and Dennis for Carlisle weren’t that prolific in their careers previously, but they were part of good teams this year.
I think the business has been good so far on the whole.
As proved when we signed Andy Williams. Never repeated his form with us.
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Has it actually been confirmed that the other 3 have re-signed
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It looks fairly clear now that a decent number of contracted players will be leaving the club, either permanently or on long-term loan. We can’t have a squad as big as it looks like getting without moving out some of those currently contracted.
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The 8 will probably be permanent signings and then the squad will get finished with 2/3 loans you’d expect when premier league teams finalise their squads which is usually July time.
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https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/league-two/transfers/wettbewerb/GB4/plus/?saison_id=2023&s_w=&leihe=1&intern=0&intern=1
A page showing all the up to date business from league 2 clubs.
Nice to see us making early moves for once.
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From what I have seen so far I genuinly feel/hope some money is being saved for a proper goal scorer and maybe a big partner up there.
I think the signings so far could be described as sensible/shrewd.
In that list above, now woods is here (new captain for me) I would put both Olowu and Faulkner above Anderson. I think Anderson needs to go.
I'm hoping Taylor gets fit aswell and we finally get to see him perform.
I don’t understand the need for *a* proven goal scorer to score the main chunk of the team’s goals. They come at an inflated cost and aren’t guaranteed to repeat it elsewhere.
If the team is strong and clicks nicely they can come from surprise sources or be shared out equally across the team. The team will also keep more clean sheets.
Leyton Orient won the league on a solid defence. Their top scorer Smyth got 10 (less than Miller). As did Stevenage’s top scorer Reid.
Hoskins for Northampton and Dennis for Carlisle weren’t that prolific in their careers previously, but they were part of good teams this year.
I think the business has been good so far on the whole.
As proved when we signed Andy Williams. Never repeated his form with us.
Andy Williams was decent for us. Head and shoulders above some of the shite we’ve had up front since him.
I would like to see an established goalscorer to challenge/play with Miller
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Tranmere have given 33 year old Kristian Dennis a 2 year deal. Scored 21 goals last season but that’s a poor signing for a poor side.
Miller and Molyneux need someone to play off to unlock their goal scoring potential. Signing a poacher type wouldn’t make much of a difference.
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Looks like our media team have been managing the output of the last week or so, with MCanns's interviews about Sterry, Westbrooke, Bottomley and Jones all being filmed at the same time.
Àllegedly McCann has been playing golf abroad so not sure if he's returned yet but hope in his next interview his skin colour is less pasty! Ha.
I wouldn't be surprised if further acquisitions are held back and managed just to keep us waiting a bit longer and allow speculation to grow. Quite likely players will still be on holiday too.
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I said something similar on the 'squad location' thread.
All very quiet and low key while McCann been away.
Getting bored now.....anyone know when he is back?!
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He’s at the 19th now.
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Yes, looks like he's back and got a bit of colour in his cheeks.
Come straight back in and signed another Senior player!
Squad to date.
Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - permanent/loan?
This was probably the defender he referred to in the interview before his holiday
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Yes, looks like he's back and got a bit of colour in his cheeks.
Come straight back in and signed another Senior player!
Squad to date.
Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - permanent/loan?
This was probably the defender he referred to in the interview before his holiday
Who's your forward 5? A striker or a creative wide player, we need both and if both transfer listed lads go then probably a second striker after that.
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2 strikers, creative winger and shithouse DM and we’re sorted for me.
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Our midfield needs a creative spark. Maybe McCann just wants solidity in the middle and the wider players will provide something extra.
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Like to see 2 quality midfielders added to Broadbent, to ensure Westbrooke, Biggins and Close are fighting for bench places, as they are too lightweight for lge2, and seemingly can’t protect the defence or create much, as proved last season.
Upfront 2 additional strikers…. One of which is a big nuisance.
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I said something similar on the 'squad location' thread.
All very quiet and low key while McCann been away.
Getting bored now.....anyone know when he is back?!
Don't know whether Grants back off holiday or not but Bobby Faulkner is still on holiday as my lad just texted me saying he's just walked past him in Ayia Napa!!
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Next priority for me is a defensive midfielder. We have been missing this for years and is the main reason the defence has struggled.
Look how important Pratley was for Leyton Orient
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From McCanns interview he wants one more in midfield and possibly two upfront. He refers to pace and 'youthness' ? Couldn't quite make out what he said.
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From McCanns interview he wants one more in midfield and possibly two upfront. He refers to pace and 'youthness' ? Couldn't quite make out what he said.
We need someone who's Sharp up front!
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Yes, looks like he's back and got a bit of colour in his cheeks.
Come straight back in and signed another Senior player!
Squad to date.
Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - permanent/loan?
This was probably the defender he referred to in the interview before his holiday
I agree with most of that, Baz. However, I've a feeling GM would regard Senior as No 1 LB to begin with.
Of course, a lot depends on performances in training.
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Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones ?
Gk 3 - bottomly ?
Rb 1 - loan/permanent
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook?
Cm 5 - loan/permanent
Cm 6 - loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - loan/sharp?
So now we're looking like this
Gk 1 - lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - bottomly
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - long
Lb 1 - maxwell
Lb 2 - loan?
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - permanent/loan?
Possibly three of McCanns eight still to come. I hope we can associate the word Quality and with a least two of those.
reckon we will be signing 3 more players at least. Another holding midfielder, another striker to compete with Miller and then another winger. That would be the 8 that was mentioned when McCann first arrived.
Then I think later on in the window we will will bring in another attacker who can play wide and through the middle on loan and possibly Another more creative midfielder on loan.
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Joe Ironsides just joined - what a signing!
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What a window this has been
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You turn your back for a minute and they wheel another one in!
And not a loan in sight yet!
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
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Still need the Pivot for Midfield and Couple of forwards that can play wide or come inside.
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Keepers - done
Defenders - done
Midfield - 1 more needed
Forwards - 1 more needed, 2, if Lavery & Griffiths leave.
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Can Taylor be a player we rely on again? If not we are very light on players with genuine pace.
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McCann alluded to some pace and youth in attack coming in. JR said another quality forward. Tyler Smith? Would be a miles better signing than Sharp.
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Can Taylor be a player we rely on again? If not we are very light on players with genuine pace.
I wouldn’t be going into a season expecting 20 starts from him. Think you build the squad and it’s a bonus if he can contribute
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We need a mester in midfield to boss the game, could be our next signing.
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You turn your back for a minute and they wheel another one in!
And not a loan in sight yet!
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - seaman
Cb 1 - wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - close
Cm 3 - biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Permanent/Loan? - (a good holding mid)- keegan/doolan type
Cm 7 - Loan
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Fw 6 - Permanent/Loan? - (wide forward with pace)
Fw 7 - Loan
That would do me if we got rid of griffiths/larvey and loaned out the younger players - ( bottomley , long , ravenhill , Kuleya , Goodman)
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So far McCann has recruited players that have tasted success, with other sides. You would like to think he has recruited winners, it looks good on paper, I would like to think he’s capable of moulding a good side out of them.
I think we can get more goals out of Ironside, than he has managed at other sides.
The defensive signings are pretty solid, especially Wood. Goalkeeper I would have liked one of our retained goalkeepers to have left, but the manager must think priorities are in other areas.
We still need that midfield destroyer. I would say another striker. More creativity, we do miss a more mobile Tomlin type.
We have every reason to be optimistic but it will take a lot of hard work as well.
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We might need two midfielder mesters, one defensive, the attacking. One to shield the defence, the other to link with the forward and attacking players.
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For me it's not needing a predominantly defensive or attacking midfielder as such, it's an anchor man. The one who's capable of dictating the tempo, gets things going with either short or long passes. We often hear about Transitions and it's generally that first pass when back in possession that sets things off. We need that player with the vision the know how to protect the ball and deliver it with high accuracy. The Playmaker if you like. Yes, also capable of winning the ball.
We don't need someone to babysit the defence, who should be able to look after themselves.
Biggins and Broadbent are up and down straight line players. The box to box type who should be providing high energy bursts.
Close and Westbrook are ones who can move either way, the jinkers, can feign one way or tother, always on the move finding pockets of space but can drop into defensive shape quickly.
Rowe is somewhere in between, predominantly left sided and at best, provides a goal threat in and around the box. Not sure I would count him as a midfield player, similar to Hurst poisitionally.
Depends then whether we feel we need a no 10, that player with something a bit special. That affects our shape in whether we want to play two up top with wide players or not. Preferable to have the choice mind.
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McCann alluded to some pace and youth in attack coming in. JR said another quality forward. Tyler Smith? Would be a miles better signing than Sharp.
Out of interest what has John Ryan said?
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One thing I like about the signings McCann is making is Wood, Ironside, Senior, Broadbent and Sterry have all come with good reviews from the clubs they played with last. Wood everyone knows what we are getting from him proper Mr Professional, but Ironside, Senior and Broadbent all have rave reviews about their attitude and workrate so we should be a high energy team next season.
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McCann alluded to some pace and youth in attack coming in. JR said another quality forward. Tyler Smith? Would be a miles better signing than Sharp.
Out of interest what has John Ryan said?
I think he just mentioned quality forwards lined up as in plural.
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All very encouraging so far.
I’d like Rowe shifted into the forwards category, I want to see him in ‘the final third’ this season.
Yes he can do midfield as well of course.
In midfield so far it’s no better than last season apart from young Albert, so maybe need 2 players there. Taylor is just a bonus if he ever comes good, but I wasn’t that impressed when he played. Maybe he’s always been carrying injuries.
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It is true that we have not seen anything like the best of Taylor ,but Grant may be able to deploy him better .
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Taylor’s asset was pace. However, once he got near the box he seemed to be in two minds what to do next usually resulting in a shot off target or a scuffed shot straight into the keepers arms, or an over hit pass into the area.
For me, he flattered to deceive.
I think Tommy Rowe could play that No.10 role. He’s an intelligent player, always looking to be involved & getting the ball forward. He still has a trick or two in his locker, has a decent shot on him & for his size competes well in the air.
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JR..who has not officially re joined the club has said on twitter that we are in for some good players but not Billy, who we had in his prime end quote .That tweet alone has doused the flames of all who read it as being informed comment ( which it may well be ) but that would be the only single leak we have had throughout all these dealings .
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Tremendous progress at this early stage of the transfer window, with more to come.
Another piece in the midfield jigsaw.
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - Seaman
Cb 1 - Wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - Olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - Close
Cm 3 - Biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Bailey
CM 7 ?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Fw 6 ?
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I reckon two wide players and he'll have his squad, perhaps one who can play wide and centrally.
Shaping up strong and the pre season should see us going in strongly with a strong squad. We'll not be struggling to fill the pre season games this year.
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We’ve got leaders at last, a balanced squad at last, just need a bit of pace up front, we will also be far fitter next season. I’m getting more than a little excited for next season
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I reckon two wide players and he'll have his squad, perhaps one who can play wide and centrally.
Shaping up strong and the pre season should see us going in strongly with a strong squad. We'll not be struggling to fill the pre season games this year.
And a squad photgraph!
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I'd suggest the squad is now just lacking some pace in attack.
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I'd suggest the squad is now just lacking some pace in attack.
And creativity which we've lacked since Coppinger retired and Taylor Richards went back.
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Tremendous progress at this early stage of the transfer window, with more to come.
Another piece in the midfield jigsaw.
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - Seaman
Cb 1 - Wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - Olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - Close
Cm 3 - Biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Bailey
CM 7 ?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Fw 6 ?
Think out of those Bottomley, Long and maybe Bobby will be going out on long term loan together with Ravenhill, Degruchy, Lavery and Griffiths.
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Tremendous progress at this early stage of the transfer window, with more to come.
Another piece in the midfield jigsaw.
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - Seaman
Cb 1 - Wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - Olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - Close
Cm 3 - Biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Bailey
CM 7 ?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Fw 6 ?
Think out of those Bottomley, Long and maybe Bobby will be going out on long term loan together with Ravenhill, Degruchy, Lavery and Griffiths.
McCann mainly played 4-2-3-1 then 3-5-2, so I do wonder if he'll want that many CBs around in case he switches to 3 at the back.
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I get the feeling half of these lads won’t be on huge wages given where they’ve been signed from.
Although it seems like great business so far, I’m hoping a couple of established, experienced football league match winners in the wide areas will finish us off nicely.
A “statement” signing for one of them would be the cherry on top.
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This must be the biggest squad we have had on a long time.
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Was watching a prog called rhe daily motion the lad from the free press said he'd been given a name which would be some signing for lge2,no name so a shit rumour really
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This must be the biggest squad we have had on a long time.
Especially when you consider Ravenhill, Degruchy and Kuleya as well as Griffiths and Lavery still signed on for now. You would imagine a couple of loanees as well as the cherry on the cake, but luckily not the nucleus of the squad that have been signed on 1 or 2 year deals.
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What’s disappointed me is I haven’t seen anything from Challs sources lol
Also are signings now done electronically negating the need for the pen
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Are these all GM players or were some already lined up, I guess there would have been a veto if required. They all seem sold on Grants vision
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This must be the biggest squad we have had on a long time.
Especially when you consider Ravenhill, Degruchy and Kuleya as well as Griffiths and Lavery still signed on for now. You would imagine a couple of loanees as well as the cherry on the cake, but luckily not the nucleus of the squad that have been signed on 1 or 2 year deals.
Suppose it’s too late to register a U23 side for the season. Looks like we’d have a decent team for a change. Without that all the younger players will need to go to a decent club on loan for sure.
Faulkner should get a starting place in the National League on loan. Play every week then whatever league we are in next season he’s a starter.
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Are these all GM players or were some already lined up, I guess there would have been a veto if required. They all seem sold on Grants vision
I get the feeling they are copps players or at least were lined up already. Wood was certainly the other kind of fit what we saw from him last season I.e. from the North East & been around the lower divisions a bit
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Are these all GM players or were some already lined up, I guess there would have been a veto if required. They all seem sold on Grants vision
I get the feeling they are copps players or at least were lined up already. Wood was certainly the other kind of fit what we saw from him last season I.e. from the North East & been around the lower divisions a bit
I think the players Copps would have had lined up would have been the kind of players to fit Schofield's possession based football.
Also, GM will be determined to build his own side. I doubt he'll be swayed by Copps very much IMO.
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I do like the signings we are making. Youngish players who have proved they can cut it in the National League and are now at a stage to show what they can do in the EFl mixed in with some good solid pros who have played at this level and higher. We've all said before that there are some very good players in the National Lge who we should be pursuing, let's hope the ones we have signed deliver the goods. I am confident they will.
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Was watching a prog called rhe daily motion the lad from the free press said he'd been given a name which would be some signing for lge2,no name so a shit rumour really
He wouldn’t give a name would he so he might be still to come
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This is just me no rumour or any names I think there are 2 more to come in.
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
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Plenty of non league signings in the past have been great. Think of our division 3 title team, they were nearly all non league players with the exception of maybe Leo and then Brown on loan?
I'd also add a lot of the players we had last year were better than where they finished. To me we have depth, fight and quality in our side for next year and building quite nicely.
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Quality of National League isn't that far from League Two nowadays. A top player in his role the National League will be one of the top 5 or so players in his role in League Two.
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
Did you omit Richard Wood on purpose to try and make a point?
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
Did you omit Richard Wood on purpose to try and make a point?
well, yeah I did.
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
Did you omit Richard Wood on purpose to try and make a point?
And Joe Ironside. Stockport were also looking at Sterry in January so he will be an upgrade on James Brown.
Besides, these recent players have come with good reputations and are on upwards career trajectories. For the first time in recent memory we are also beating other clubs to sought after signatures.
All our recent signings bar Lawlor would have got another L2 minimum move.
Mitchell, Dodoo, Hiwula, Barlow, Griffiths, Agard, Clayton and Gardner are all far worse signings and we made them in league one. Not to mention all the half-arsed loanees - not one loan yet this window!
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
Did you omit Richard Wood on purpose to try and make a point?
And Joe Ironside. Stockport were also looking at Sterry in January so he will be an upgrade on James Brown.
Besides, these recent players have come with good reputations and are on upwards career trajectories. For the first time in recent memory we are also beating other clubs to sought after signatures.
All our recent signings bar Lawlor would have got another L2 minimum move.
Mitchell, Dodoo, Hiwula, Barlow, Griffiths, Agard, Clayton and Gardner are all far worse signings and we made them in league one. Not to mention all the half-arsed loanees - not one loan yet this window!
The loans don’t usually come in until a week or two before the season kicks off.
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No issue with where players are signed from as long as they're good enough.
McIndoe was a signing from a non-league team technically at the time, but turned out to be one of the best pieces of business the club has done. Same could be said with Coppinger himself.
I don't know much about the lads we've signed from non-league as I've not knowingly seen them play or delved into their careers, but the theme seems to be that they're all at a good age, all seem to be on an upward trajectory in their careers, and all seem to have been in the top bracket of performers in their positions in the National League, which is a very competitive level probably on a par or not that far away from L2.
In principle I'd much rather us be looking for players like this than people like Agard, Gardner, Lavery etc. like we have in previous seasons. Time will tell if they're good signings, but we do seem on the face of it to have some sense of direction with our transfer activity for the first time in a while, which is something I welcome.
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I’m expecting any loans we sign will be to replace any of our current squad (not the new signings) that fall short in pre-season training
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
Did you omit Richard Wood on purpose to try and make a point?
And Joe Ironside. Stockport were also looking at Sterry in January so he will be an upgrade on James Brown.
Besides, these recent players have come with good reputations and are on upwards career trajectories. For the first time in recent memory we are also beating other clubs to sought after signatures.
All our recent signings bar Lawlor would have got another L2 minimum move.
Mitchell, Dodoo, Hiwula, Barlow, Griffiths, Agard, Clayton and Gardner are all far worse signings and we made them in league one. Not to mention all the half-arsed loanees - not one loan yet this window!
The loans don’t usually come in until a week or two before the season kicks off.
Yes but there is only room for 2 loans max now which is a departure from the usual 4/5 in the squad each year. McCann is better at identifying loan talent as well (Wilks, Kane). We are a more attractive place to send them now as well.
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If you read what GM said about loans then we might not be having any unless they are of quality. Getting loans to sit on the bench and managers phoning asking why they are not playing is not what GM wants
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With the signings so far I think we are good for a playoff challenge. The next 2 signings (if indeed there is two) are the ones that will put us into an automatic promotion challenge. They would need to be strong, creative, quick and scare the living daylights out of most lge 2 teams, and perhaps be proven at lg1 or low championship level (thinking a Sadlier, Wilkes or McIndoe type). These 2 would probably take up a fair chunk of TB’s funding, but will be the difference.
Massive Thanks to TB for Getting us all positively retuned into the mighty Hoops.
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
Well that’s popped the optimism bubble
Wood, Ironside must be planning on non league I guess
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
Chris Wilder built his Sheff U promotion-winning team - L1 to PL - on signing good players from lower leagues. The McCann style of playing has much in common with CW’s.
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
I'd counter all of that quite quickly:
McIndoe & Copps are proof that great non league players can match it at this level and indeed far higher
Last season was abyssmal but lets be fair - if you are forced into a frigid style of play that doesn't suit your abilities, shoved out of position... you're hardly going to show your best. I don't think its the worst squad we've had in years, I think the choices of managers were terrible and mismatched.
We now have a league 1 winning manager who nearly had Hull in the championship play offs until the heart of that squad was snatched away. He's inheriting a squad that has a striker who scored double digits despite negative tactics and clear low confidence, the combative professionalism of Tommy Rowe, experience of Anderson and countless others...
We've signed 3 non league lads who've come from higher up the pyramid previously and competed with Wrexham and Notts County (this seasons League 2 favourites), a lad from Hartlepool who was undoubtedly one of their bright sparks in FL2 and could've ended up at Stockport (another favourite), a defender who has very much been there and done it with promotions glore on his resume, a striker whose scored hatloads at a higher level and can hold his own, and a keeper whose performed at this level before.
These lads are hungry, combative, aggressive, and want success. And the manager encapsulates this. Bring 23/24 on
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
I'd counter all of that quite quickly:
McIndoe & Copps are proof that great non league players can match it at this level and indeed far higher
Last season was abyssmal but lets be fair - if you are forced into a frigid style of play that doesn't suit your abilities, shoved out of position... you're hardly going to show your best. I don't think its the worst squad we've had in years, I think the choices of managers were terrible and mismatched.
We now have a league 1 winning manager who nearly had Hull in the championship play offs until the heart of that squad was snatched away. He's inheriting a squad that has a striker who scored double digits despite negative tactics and clear low confidence, the combative professionalism of Tommy Rowe, experience of Anderson and countless others...
We've signed 3 non league lads who've come from higher up the pyramid previously and competed with Wrexham and Notts County (this seasons League 2 favourites), a lad from Hartlepool who was undoubtedly one of their bright sparks in FL2 and could've ended up at Stockport (another favourite), a defender who has very much been there and done it with promotions glore on his resume, a striker whose scored hatloads at a higher level and can hold his own, and a keeper whose performed at this level before.
These lads are hungry, combative, aggressive, and want success. And the manager encapsulates this. Bring 23/24 on
Spot. On.
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
I'd counter all of that quite quickly:
McIndoe & Copps are proof that great non league players can match it at this level and indeed far higher
Last season was abyssmal but lets be fair - if you are forced into a frigid style of play that doesn't suit your abilities, shoved out of position... you're hardly going to show your best. I don't think its the worst squad we've had in years, I think the choices of managers were terrible and mismatched.
We now have a league 1 winning manager who nearly had Hull in the championship play offs until the heart of that squad was snatched away. He's inheriting a squad that has a striker who scored double digits despite negative tactics and clear low confidence, the combative professionalism of Tommy Rowe, experience of Anderson and countless others...
We've signed 3 non league lads who've come from higher up the pyramid previously and competed with Wrexham and Notts County (this seasons League 2 favourites), a lad from Hartlepool who was undoubtedly one of their bright sparks in FL2 and could've ended up at Stockport (another favourite), a defender who has very much been there and done it with promotions glore on his resume, a striker whose scored hatloads at a higher level and can hold his own, and a keeper whose performed at this level before.
These lads are hungry, combative, aggressive, and want success. And the manager encapsulates this. Bring 23/24 on
I'll pass that onto Bob G next time I see him.
What the fcuk does he know anyway!
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We need another top striker, with a few creative players and we will have a chance of doing well.
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
I'd counter all of that quite quickly:
McIndoe & Copps are proof that great non league players can match it at this level and indeed far higher
Last season was abyssmal but lets be fair - if you are forced into a frigid style of play that doesn't suit your abilities, shoved out of position... you're hardly going to show your best. I don't think its the worst squad we've had in years, I think the choices of managers were terrible and mismatched.
We now have a league 1 winning manager who nearly had Hull in the championship play offs until the heart of that squad was snatched away. He's inheriting a squad that has a striker who scored double digits despite negative tactics and clear low confidence, the combative professionalism of Tommy Rowe, experience of Anderson and countless others...
We've signed 3 non league lads who've come from higher up the pyramid previously and competed with Wrexham and Notts County (this seasons League 2 favourites), a lad from Hartlepool who was undoubtedly one of their bright sparks in FL2 and could've ended up at Stockport (another favourite), a defender who has very much been there and done it with promotions glore on his resume, a striker whose scored hatloads at a higher level and can hold his own, and a keeper whose performed at this level before.
These lads are hungry, combative, aggressive, and want success. And the manager encapsulates this. Bring 23/24 on
I'll pass that onto Bob G next time I see him.
What the fcuk does he know anyway!
'Bob G' ....... you had me very confused for a minute there, I thought you were talking about one of our own :lol: :lol:
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Bobby Gould said that there were lots of very good players down in non league, the problem being that if you signed too many of them you ended up with a non league team.
So far we have signed players from Gateshead, Halifax, Hartlepool, Dundee (:)) and the Blades lad who played in the conference last year. These have been added to the worst squad we've had for years.
Just saying....
I'd counter all of that quite quickly:
McIndoe & Copps are proof that great non league players can match it at this level and indeed far higher
Last season was abyssmal but lets be fair - if you are forced into a frigid style of play that doesn't suit your abilities, shoved out of position... you're hardly going to show your best. I don't think its the worst squad we've had in years, I think the choices of managers were terrible and mismatched.
We now have a league 1 winning manager who nearly had Hull in the championship play offs until the heart of that squad was snatched away. He's inheriting a squad that has a striker who scored double digits despite negative tactics and clear low confidence, the combative professionalism of Tommy Rowe, experience of Anderson and countless others...
We've signed 3 non league lads who've come from higher up the pyramid previously and competed with Wrexham and Notts County (this seasons League 2 favourites), a lad from Hartlepool who was undoubtedly one of their bright sparks in FL2 and could've ended up at Stockport (another favourite), a defender who has very much been there and done it with promotions glore on his resume, a striker whose scored hatloads at a higher level and can hold his own, and a keeper whose performed at this level before.
These lads are hungry, combative, aggressive, and want success. And the manager encapsulates this. Bring 23/24 on
I agree with all of that other than the mention of Anderson. For me the 2.5yr deal was poor descision. I would move him one ASAP.
BUT I also know GM mentioned him specifically for character etc when he first came in so maybe there is more than what we see on a match day.
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Anderson played his best football when he had an experienced cb partner alongside him…….Butler. He’s not had that since and he’s been blighted by injury, so has lost consistency of performance. Wood could turn out to be a masterstroke of a signing for us - if, indeed, he stays fit!
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Some good signings by our competitors.
MK Dons have signed Cameron Norman.
Gillingham have signed Max Clarke as well as Jonny Williams.
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I see the dinosaur Hughes is assembling a veteran's teams at Bradford
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In McCann's latest interview about Tyler Roberts, he was asked if we're done or any more to come in. He said he'd like one more in the attacking area to provide competition for the long season. We've got options in place but this may take a little longer so we'll see how we go.
Come on Billy lad, tha dunt wanna go Rovrum surely!!??? (Only kidding before Cbcb tells me he's not coming! Ha)
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Now that we’ve signed Ironside and Roberts, I’ve warmed to the idea that Billy would make more sense. And what other rotation player would take more time to sign than others?
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Free Press quoting McCann saying our final signing is attacking player and that “his current club is aware of our interest” which means this lad at least is under contract, so it is loan or permanent. This then means out of contract players for instance Billy Sharp, are not in the frame.
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The ‘swingometer’ seems to have gone over to Malik Wilks?
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Free Press quoting McCann saying our final signing is attacking player and that “his current club is aware of our interest” which means this lad at least is under contract, so it is loan or permanent. This then means out of contract players for instance Billy Sharp, are not in the frame.
This to me sounds like a PL club who want a look at a young player before letting him out on loan. Could be wrong. Wilks will be off to L1 though, surely.
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7 attackers for 3 positions that would be. Would someone like Hurst need to be loaned out?
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Could be any one of the following
A player where there's competion for his signature and said player/club could be waiting for the best option.
Or, a player who a club might want to offload but we've we're submitted a loan bid with a view to a permanent later.
A young highly rated player where there's competition for a loan.
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Or a player under a standard contract that doesn't expire until 30 June
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This clip makes it sound like the deal is done - or at least informally agreed - and it's a matter of when, not if. It does sound like a loan deal to me with the reference to his club "letting him out".
https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1673665405582209030?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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7 attackers for 3 positions that would be. Would someone like Hurst need to be loaned out?
Not necessarily.. 3 starting, 2 on the bench, 2 covering injuries/suspensions and rotations.?
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This clip makes it sound like the deal is done - or at least informally agreed - and it's a matter of when, not if. It does sound like a loan deal to me with the reference to his club "letting him out".
https://twitter.com/robstaton/status/1673665405582209030?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Really good interview in full. Hopefully everyone raring to go now.
Very much sounds like a loan player to come in. Quite often young players take part in their parent clubs pre-season schedule so that could be the reason why more 'when' than 'if'.
Training ground primed and ready.
https://youtu.be/yaBvn5OmWD4
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That's the first time I've seen any video of the training ground facilities, looks very impressive!
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Loved it when he called the stadium ‘The Keepmoat’, then smiled & asked ‘What’s it called now? Well it was always The Keepmoat to me”.
Me too Grant!
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But the Eco Power pay bills .
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It's the Keepmoat in my heart too. Has been ever since we moved from the old Earth Stadium.
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Keepmoat will always sound better as a stadium name.
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The Eco Powered Keepmoat.
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Has it really been a month since we signed anyone.
Unless I've lost track, this is how we stand at the moment. Are we done?
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - Seaman
Cb 1 - Wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - Olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - Close
Cm 3 - Biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Bailey
CM 7 ?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Fw 6 - Sotona
Fw 7 - Lavery ?
Fw 8 - Griffiths ?
I might be tempted to keep Lavery. Much will depend if he can get fit before the window closes of course.
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You are missing from there Degruchy, Ravenhill, Goodman and Kuleya who are part of the first team squad, but are likely to head out on loan, probably along with Bottomley, and also missing Tyler Roberts who is on loan to us.
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Yes, wasn't counting in youth likely to be loaned out. But yes, Roberts!!
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - Seaman
Cb 1 - Wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - Olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - Close
Cm 3 - Biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Bailey
CM 7 ?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Fw 6 - Sotona
Fw 7 - Roberts
Fw 8 - Lavery ?
Fw 9 - Griffiths ?
Development players
Degruchy
Ravenhill
Kuleya
Goodman
I still think we're one light in midfield.
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Not wishing to split hairs but all five of those are listed as first team players. Yes, they are likely to be loaned out but are part of the first team squad. I make that point as it does show the huge size of the squad we have now. We must be carrying a significant wage bill, certainly compared to last few seasons.
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McCann's definitely built an empire.
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If we want to compete we need options, though maybe a bit too heavy on the amount we have.
I would use the EFL trophy to give a few games to Lavery and Reo, it either puts them in the shop window for others to look at and keeps them fit for if they are needed.
The young players need good loans at a decent level, if all they can get is way down the pyramid it might be better to retain them around the squad. Bobby for example needs either a good loan or to be around the first team. He can learn a lot from just watching a player like Wood.
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It will help us hopefully compete a lot better though. Players like Hurst will have less fatigue and can be used at their full for better spells.
5 subs has made it a much bigger squad game almost a bit like rugby became. 90 minutes is much less common now.
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That’s a very decent squad we have.
Plenty of options and much more creativity than we had last season.
Expect McCann to get much more out of Hurst and Molyneux than DS did last season.
Competition for places in every position which will focus the players.
If they don’t perform there is someone to come in and replace them.
Yes this is a very competitive league and on paper the top 9/10 look stronger than last season.
Having said that I think we have one of the best 2/3 managers in this league and I expect us to be at least challenging for a top 3 place.
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The difference this coming season is that with McCann in charge we will generally be on the front foot more and pressing higher up the pitch. This should result in less pressure on the defence and hopefully conceding far less than we did last season. I think we as fans will be on the edge of our seats and we will probably be involved in some high scoring games which we will win some but also lose some. Can't wait to get started & see some exciting games again.
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A further update..
Gk 1 - Lawlor
Gk 2 - Jones
Gk 3 - Bottomley
Rb 1 - Sterrie
Rb 2 - Nixon
Rb 3 - Seaman
Cb 1 - Wood
Cb 2 - Anderson
Cb 3 - Olowu
Cb 4 - Faulkner
CB 5 - Long
Lb 1 - Maxwell
Lb 2 - Senior
Cm 1 - Rowe
Cm 2 - Close
Cm 3 - Biggins
Cm 4 - Westbrook
Cm 5 - Broadbent
Cm 6 - Bailey
CM 7 ?
Fw 1 - Hurst
Fw 2 - Molyneux
Fw 3 - Miller
Fw 4 - Taylor
Fw 5 - Ironside
Fw 6 - Sotona
Fw 7 - Roberts
Fw 8 - Lavery ?
Fw 9 - Griffiths ?
Development players
Degruchy (Out on loan)
Ravenhill
Kuleya (Out on loan)
Goodman (Out on loan)
And you want more?
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We still need 2 more if we want to be competitive, DBR. CM & striker.
A few more can go out, of course!
I don’t think we’re done………yet.
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I see that Ferguson has made Tomlinson and Pym available for transfer, and oddly Clarke-Harris. Can only assume latter has refused to sign a new deal and they are trying to monetise him while they can.
Isn't it Peterborough's policy to transfer list all players in the last year of their contract?
Thats correct yes.
Rare for Peterborough to miss out on making a few quid on a striker. Clarke-Harrison is walking away as a free agent. They were on verge of getting very good money for him at one point.
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I see that Ferguson has made Tomlinson and Pym available for transfer, and oddly Clarke-Harris. Can only assume latter has refused to sign a new deal and they are trying to monetise him while they can.
Isn't it Peterborough's policy to transfer list all players in the last year of their contract?
Thats correct yes.
Rare for Peterborough to miss out on making a few quid on a striker. Clarke-Harrison is walking away as a free agent. They were on verge of getting very good money for him at one point.
Gone to Rotherham on two year deal.
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Mansfield sign Lee Gregory from Wendies, 1 year deal