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Title: Starting 11
Post by: scawsby steve on June 17, 2023, 06:38:38 pm
OK, we all have our own opinions, so I thought this might make an interesting thread. Based on 4-3-3, because GM sometimes plays that, and it's simple to list, I'd go for this;

Lawlor

Sterry
Wood
Anderson
Senior

Biggins
Broadbent
Bailey

Roberts
Ironside
Miller
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: DearneValleyRover on June 17, 2023, 06:42:09 pm
I’d swap Anderson for Olowu and Rowe for Biggins
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Bessie Red on June 17, 2023, 06:45:29 pm
OK, we all have our own opinions, so I thought this might make an interesting thread. Based on 4-3-3, because GM sometimes plays that, and it's simple to list, I'd go for this;

Lawlor

Sterry
Wood
Anderson
Senior

Biggins
Broadbent
Bailey

Roberts
Ironside
Miller
Good choice.
Only two I would change is Oluwu for Anderson just so we have a bit of pace in the middle of the back 4 and Tommy Rowe for Biggins just for his experience in the middle three!

Just got in before me DVR!
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: scawsby steve on June 17, 2023, 06:50:33 pm
I’d swap Anderson for Olowu and Rowe for Biggins

Decent call. It's nice to have a reasonable choice for a change.

At the end of the day, it'll be down to who impresses GM the most in training.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: roversdude on June 17, 2023, 06:54:10 pm
Do you think we will have a preferred line up or tailor it towards the opposition
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 17, 2023, 06:58:18 pm
Not sure he will be starting Roberts. At least not at the start of the season. Anderson and Wood are collectively slower than continental drift but I can’t see him not starting them. Rowe will start I am fairly confident. I just don’t know about Taylor. All things being equal he should be starting but injuries and lack of long-term fitness might still count against him. If he is the guy of 2019-20 then for all his weaknesses he would definitely be starting at this level, every game.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Alan Southstand on June 17, 2023, 07:07:26 pm
Quote
Lawlor

Sterry
Wood
Anderson
Senior

Biggins
Broadbent
Bailey

Roberts
Ironside
Miller

Subs bench will be interesting:
Jones
Olowu/Anderson/Long/Faulkner
Maxwell
Hurst/Taylor/Molyneux
Westbrook/Rowe/Close

Assuming Griffiths and Lavery will be gone pre-season. All the remaining ones I can see going on loan.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: dickos1 on June 17, 2023, 07:09:23 pm
I don’t think he’ll start Rowe,
I reckon close will surprise us next season and mccann will get lots more out of him, maybe play him deeper like he did with whiteman
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: mushRTID on June 17, 2023, 07:14:10 pm
                  Lawlor

Sterry   Wood    Anderson    Senior

            Close   Bailey

Roberts   Molyneux     Rowe     

               Ironside


Bit of fun, I doubt it will be this.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: DearneValleyRover on June 17, 2023, 07:32:30 pm
Lawlor

Sterry. Olowu. Wood. Senior

Bailey. Broadbent

Roberts. Westbrooke. Rowe

Ironside
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Alan Southstand on June 17, 2023, 07:49:14 pm
Just for fun, an ‘away’ side, in 3-5-2:

Lawlor

Olowu
Wood
Anderson

Sterry
Biggins
Bailey
Broadbent
Senior

Miller
Ironside

Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Dutch Uncle on June 17, 2023, 08:12:01 pm
From the above two things are clear to me:

We have more realistic options for starting XI than any season I can remember

The almost unanimous use of all 8 new signings as starters shows either we have all become optimists, or our recruitment so far has been superb ........ or both  :lol:

If McCann can make a team that is greater than the sum of its parts (without having more than 11 on the pitch at any time  :silly:) as he did last time we should be a force to be reckoned with

COYR  :scarf: :scarf:

P.S. This was written heavily under the influence ........... of optimism  :lol:
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: andyst79 on June 17, 2023, 08:54:32 pm
I don’t think he’ll start Rowe,
I reckon close will surprise us next season and mccann will get lots more out of him, maybe play him deeper like he did with whiteman
Close is awful , got the heart the size of a pea , will go down in history as one of our worst ever signings
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: ncRover on June 17, 2023, 09:02:34 pm
Midfield looks strong there. Biggins could be a real goal threat and get double figures this year.

I’d just swap Miller for Molyneux, he’s a much tidier player and can beat a man but I think George can be thrown on anywhere across the front 3 if we’re after a goal.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: dickos1 on June 17, 2023, 09:19:50 pm
I don’t think he’ll start Rowe,
I reckon close will surprise us next season and mccann will get lots more out of him, maybe play him deeper like he did with whiteman
Close is awful , got the heart the size of a pea , will go down in history as one of our worst ever signings

Like I said I think he will surprise us next season, with the ball he’s our best player
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on June 17, 2023, 09:27:43 pm
I don’t think he’ll start Rowe,
I reckon close will surprise us next season and mccann will get lots more out of him, maybe play him deeper like he did with whiteman
Close is awful , got the heart the size of a pea , will go down in history as one of our worst ever signings

Like I said I think he will surprise us next season, with the ball he’s our best player

He certainly isn’t awful. If Close was a bad signing what was Molyneux. Close was on a different level to him last season.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 17, 2023, 09:41:32 pm
Hard to say I’ve hardly seen any of the new players. But I expect something like this.

             Lawlor
Sterry Olowu Wood Senior
   Broadbent Bailey Biggins
    Miller Ironside Hurst

Miller could be a decent workhorse wide forward who would get a decent number of goals in the mix.

Heard Senior can also play left side in a back 3 so maybe we can go with
                 Lawlor
        Olowu Wood Senior
Sterry Broadbent Bailey Biggins Maxwell
              Ironside Miller

Think we could also have a decent 442 with Rowe wide left tucking in when needed.

I personally think Hurst is ahead of Molynuex and is one we should stick with in a starting line up alongside better players he’ll progress much quicker.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Ryaldinhio on June 17, 2023, 09:42:52 pm
                               Lawlor

             Olowu      Wood(c)      Senior

  Sterry                   Bailey                    Maxwell

                               Biggins
Molyeneux                                           Roberts
                               Ironside
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 17, 2023, 10:08:05 pm
I don’t think he’ll start Rowe,
I reckon close will surprise us next season and mccann will get lots more out of him, maybe play him deeper like he did with whiteman
Close is awful , got the heart the size of a pea , will go down in history as one of our worst ever signings

Like I said I think he will surprise us next season, with the ball he’s our best player

He certainly isn’t awful. If Close was a bad signing what was Molyneux. Close was on a different level to him last season.

Neither of them were any good last season, albeit in a horror show of a side. It's a clean slate for them next season, with a much higher bar and standards. Not sure we saw from either of them last season the work rate required this season.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Rovers91 on June 18, 2023, 08:03:05 am
                 Lawlor

Sterry Wood Olowu Senior
                 
                  Bailey
       Biggins          Rowe

Molyneux     Ironside  New winger

Subs - Jones, Anderson, Maxwell, Broadbent, Roberts, Miller, Close

Some big decisions to be made next season its tough when picking an 11. There's going to be some good players getting left out match day squads when everyone is fit. I've put new winger as I think McCann will sign a winger he wants on a permanent deal I don't think we are done in that area yet.
I've put Rowe in, last season he was poor but year before he was one of our biggest goal threats from wing back. I think he will come back pre season thinking he has a point to prove, a manager he knows and he has quality on ball in an attacking team I could see him getting double figures in league 2 even at his age.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: andyst79 on June 18, 2023, 08:24:21 am
I don’t think he’ll start Rowe,
I reckon close will surprise us next season and mccann will get lots more out of him, maybe play him deeper like he did with whiteman
Close is awful , got the heart the size of a pea , will go down in history as one of our worst ever signings

Like I said I think he will surprise us next season, with the ball he’s our best player
I hope your right , just because I think he's overated doesn't mean I want him to fail and I'll be more than happy to eat my words.  I've said it before on previous threads that apart from a few fancy passes now and then what he stands and admires he offers nothing else. He had about 3/4 good games last year where the opposition stood off him and let him play that was it. Maybe saying he's awful is a bit strong but nobody can deny he's been a very underwhelming signing up to now.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: RugbyRover on June 18, 2023, 09:11:40 am
                              Jones

Sterry           Faulkner          Wood          Maxwell

          Close             Bailey      Rowe

Molyneux                 Ironside                 Roberts


LJ is a way better keeper than Lawlor ever will be.
BF needs to stay in the team to learn from Wood. Anderson benched. The other center backs can all go for me.
Has anyone seen Senior play? Maxwell was largely decent and deserves to start.
Same with Broadbent, why pick him ahead of TR I don't know.
Close needs to deliver pretty sharpish or else will be chopped but will benefit from Bailey covering up his weaknesses and letting him concentrate on his strengths.
LM will be better with a overlapping full back behind him and Ironside ahead.
Hurst will come into the side if Roberts fails. 1st time loans are a risk and I expect big things from Hurst this year. Could also replace Rowe if he struggles.

Excited to see Sterry and Bailey and expect them two to make a big difference this year.
With Wood, Bailey and Ironside we look to have a spine of a team that will allow us to compete. The other ball players will then come into their own.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 18, 2023, 09:14:47 am
All these sides sadly lack any pace whatsoever, unless people assume the new Wolves lad is going to play a lot. We are now a much more robust and solid side, but extremely one paced. Taylor could play a role, the Wolves lad, and maybe another wide signing, loan or permanent.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Nudga on June 18, 2023, 09:17:28 am
All these sides sadly lack any pace whatsoever, unless people assume the new Wolves lad is going to play a lot. We are now a much more robust and solid side, but extremely one paced. Taylor could play a role, the Wolves lad, and maybe another wide signing, loan or permanent.

At the moment it looks like Grant's team will physically hammer other sides into submission.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on June 18, 2023, 09:21:37 am
I think the XI at the start of the season will look quite different to the XI as the season goes on.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 18, 2023, 09:35:29 am
All these sides sadly lack any pace whatsoever, unless people assume the new Wolves lad is going to play a lot. We are now a much more robust and solid side, but extremely one paced. Taylor could play a role, the Wolves lad, and maybe another wide signing, loan or permanent.

At the moment it looks like Grant's team will physically hammer other sides into submission.

Hope so!
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Lifelong supporter on June 18, 2023, 09:37:13 am
                                        Lawlor

               Sterry           Anderson           Wood        Senior


                                            Bailey               

                              Broadbent              Rowe
                                         

                  Roberts          Ironside         New winger
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: BigKeif on June 18, 2023, 11:03:26 am
Lawlor

Sterry
Olowu
Wood
Senior

Broadbent
Bailey
Rowe

Roberts
Hurst
Ironside

This at the moment just picking purely off who we see in the squad would be my pick for the first game of the season.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Danmckay456 on June 18, 2023, 11:22:14 am
Lawlor
Sterry
Olowu
Wood (C)
Senior

Bailey
Broadbent
Rowe

Roberts
Ironside
New winger



Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Danmckay456 on June 18, 2023, 11:24:17 am
                              Jones

Sterry           Faulkner          Wood          Maxwell

          Close             Bailey      Rowe

Molyneux                 Ironside                 Roberts


LJ is a way better keeper than Lawlor ever will be.
BF needs to stay in the team to learn from Wood. Anderson benched. The other center backs can all go for me.
Has anyone seen Senior play? Maxwell was largely decent and deserves to start.
Same with Broadbent, why pick him ahead of TR I don't know.
Close needs to deliver pretty sharpish or else will be chopped but will benefit from Bailey covering up his weaknesses and letting him concentrate on his strengths.
LM will be better with a overlapping full back behind him and Ironside ahead.
Hurst will come into the side if Roberts fails. 1st time loans are a risk and I expect big things from Hurst this year. Could also replace Rowe if he struggles.

Excited to see Sterry and Bailey and expect them two to make a big difference this year.
With Wood, Bailey and Ironside we look to have a spine of a team that will allow us to compete. The other ball players will then come into their own.


Good grief I bet you’re as barrel of laughs , talk about looking on the bright side of life
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: RugbyRover on June 18, 2023, 12:09:09 pm
                              Jones

Sterry           Faulkner          Wood          Maxwell

          Close             Bailey      Rowe

Molyneux                 Ironside                 Roberts


LJ is a way better keeper than Lawlor ever will be.
BF needs to stay in the team to learn from Wood. Anderson benched. The other center backs can all go for me.
Has anyone seen Senior play? Maxwell was largely decent and deserves to start.
Same with Broadbent, why pick him ahead of TR I don't know.
Close needs to deliver pretty sharpish or else will be chopped but will benefit from Bailey covering up his weaknesses and letting him concentrate on his strengths.
LM will be better with a overlapping full back behind him and Ironside ahead.
Hurst will come into the side if Roberts fails. 1st time loans are a risk and I expect big things from Hurst this year. Could also replace Rowe if he struggles.

Excited to see Sterry and Bailey and expect them two to make a big difference this year.
With Wood, Bailey and Ironside we look to have a spine of a team that will allow us to compete. The other ball players will then come into their own.


Good grief I bet you’re as barrel of laughs , talk about looking on the bright side of life

blimey, and that's one of my more positive posts  :laugh:
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 18, 2023, 12:18:53 pm
I think it fair to make constructive observations even if they sound critical.

We’ve done what looks like some very good business. Some observations though:

1. It is fair to say Lawlor is not the strongest keeper in League Two.

2. The defence looks like it is Anderson aside, an entirely new unit including the keeper. We have obviously needed this but so much change will take time to bed in.

3. Very little creativity in midfield.

4. Very little pace in the side.

5. Probably enough with two central strikers, assuming he plays just one up or one in a front three. If Goodman goes on loan as expected that is a bit thin.

Still time to do some further business and we don’t know how McCann will set his side up of course.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Canadian Rover on June 18, 2023, 12:19:33 pm
We have experienced a series of unfortunate injury setbacks over the past few seasons. These injuries have plagued key players, disrupting team cohesion, and hindered he club's progress on the pitch.

Operating on a limited resources compared to our competitors has lead to a poor squad and poor league and cup performances.

This closed season Rovers have made astute moves in the transfer market. The club has brought in new signings who not only possess skills but also demonstrate physical robustness. By bolstering the squad with players who are less prone to injuries.

What's more important than the starting eleven now is the overall strength of the squad.

We are going into a season not putting all our hopes on the likes of injury prone Taylor and Anderson.

It looks like Rowe, Taylor and Anderson are important squad players now but not absolutely essential to our success. The influences of Hurst, Close, Miller and Mollyneux likewise.

I predict we will see a much better season for the club without having to make excuses of our non performance on players that are injured.

This is all down to Terry Bramall and the increase in budget alongside an experienced management team. We have endured some terrible football and some terrible football decisions in recent seasons. Things no doubt are looking to turn around.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: ncRover on June 18, 2023, 12:29:41 pm
I think it fair to make constructive observations even if they sound critical.

We’ve done what looks like some very good business. Some observations though:

1. It is fair to say Lawlor is not the strongest keeper in League Two.

2. The defence looks like it is Anderson aside, an entirely new unit including the keeper. We have obviously needed this but so much change will take time to bed in.

3. Very little creativity in midfield.

4. Very little pace in the side.

5. Probably enough with two central strikers, assuming he plays just one up or one in a front three. If Goodman goes on loan as expected that is a bit thin.

Still time to do some further business and we don’t know how McCann will set his side up of course.

Who were Leyton Orient, Stevenage and Northampton’s creative sparks in midfield? League 2 is a battle. Westbrooke is the creative option. Not many others available on the market.

In other areas, the full backs will provide creativity. Ironside’s hold up play will create chances too.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on June 18, 2023, 12:29:41 pm
The squad feels like it's about moving us forward now, bags of potential and getting the best from our good players.

Oluwu is as important as Wood for me - they'd be my main pair with Bobby supporting to learn his trade. Anderson been a great servant but he's a shadow of the player he was, same with Taylor - time to move on and build our future - they're bit part players at best now.

Close wouldn't put the kit on again for me, he's not 'awful' but he is completely ineffective and has none of the pride, passion and commitment I would expect from one of our most senior players - again, time to move on now with Grant and keep building to our future.

Hurst, Moly, Miller and Biggins will start to shine now I think, and the new lads we've brought in make the season ahead very exciding - with good options in every position.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Rovers91 on June 18, 2023, 12:43:46 pm
I think we will get another winger in and someone on loan who can play as a striker with both having pace, then I think we will be done until McCann has worked with the squad.
Midfield I like and I think a good manager like McCann will get so much more out of them and we will have a lot of energy in midfield.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on June 18, 2023, 12:46:33 pm
I think the best XI players in the longer run will end up proving to be…

Jones

Maxwell
Olowu
Wood
Sterry

Biggins
Broadbent
Close

(not sure ATM)
Ironside
Roberts
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Bessie Red on June 18, 2023, 01:56:08 pm
I think the best XI players in the longer run will end up proving to be…

Jones

Maxwell
Olowu
Wood
Sterry

Biggins
Broadbent
Close

(not sure ATM)
Ironside
Roberts

Gaz, you seem a fairly knowledgeable fella when it comes to footie.
How do you think your team above would fare with McCann managing them in the league next season?
Top 3, play offs, top half, mid table, lower half or relegation battle?

Curious to have your view!
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: albie on June 18, 2023, 02:19:06 pm
Very difficult for me to see Wood and Anderson playing as a pair, I think it is one of them alongside Olowu.

We don't know if Tom is fully recovered from his injuries from last season, which is why I was surprised we gave the contract extension before GM was appointed.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 18, 2023, 03:07:18 pm
A long extension as well.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: andyst79 on June 18, 2023, 04:32:24 pm
Very difficult for me to see Wood and Anderson playing as a pair, I think it is one of them alongside Olowu.

We don't know if Tom is fully recovered from his injuries from last season, which is why I was surprised we gave the contract extension before GM was appointed.
Agree with this, I think Wood will either partner Olowu or Faulkner if the latter impresses GM enough preseason. If Faulkner's not starting he needs to go to another L2 club on loan for his development.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 18, 2023, 04:41:31 pm
I think the best XI players in the longer run will end up proving to be…

Jones

Maxwell
Olowu
Wood
Sterry

Biggins
Broadbent
Close

(not sure ATM)
Ironside
Roberts


Agree with most of this though I’ve not seen Roberts much and am always aware loaners can get lost in their 1st spell.

Other position that’s a bit surprising is Owen Bailey at CDM. Lots of positives on twitter about him from people who seem to follow the game closely. From that I’d expect him to be a 1st choice.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: DonnyOsmond on June 18, 2023, 05:15:31 pm
TBD Ironside Molyneux
Rowe Bailey Close
Senior Olowu Wood Sterry
Lawlor

Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 18, 2023, 05:23:30 pm
A lot of people expecting a big step up from Molyneux by the looks of it.

For me he’s behind Hurst who in his 1st season of pro football did very well. Yes inconsistent but more effective than Molynuex imo.

A case for both of them improving in a better team that has the ball in the opponents half more
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: andyst79 on June 18, 2023, 05:31:42 pm
A Lot of people are quick to write off Maxwell & Hurst. Maxwell improved as the season went on and I think GM will get the best out of Hurst
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on June 18, 2023, 05:53:00 pm
Maxwell has the potential to be a top player, this season is a big one for him.
He won’t play both senior centre backs if he’s playing a high line, if he isn’t planning on that he might.
We have a lot of good options now, with a few more signings still to come.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: scawsby steve on June 18, 2023, 06:45:53 pm
                              Jones

Sterry           Faulkner          Wood          Maxwell

          Close             Bailey      Rowe

Molyneux                 Ironside                 Roberts


LJ is a way better keeper than Lawlor ever will be.
BF needs to stay in the team to learn from Wood. Anderson benched. The other center backs can all go for me.
Has anyone seen Senior play? Maxwell was largely decent and deserves to start.
Same with Broadbent, why pick him ahead of TR I don't know.
Close needs to deliver pretty sharpish or else will be chopped but will benefit from Bailey covering up his weaknesses and letting him concentrate on his strengths.
LM will be better with a overlapping full back behind him and Ironside ahead.
Hurst will come into the side if Roberts fails. 1st time loans are a risk and I expect big things from Hurst this year. Could also replace Rowe if he struggles.

Excited to see Sterry and Bailey and expect them two to make a big difference this year.
With Wood, Bailey and Ironside we look to have a spine of a team that will allow us to compete. The other ball players will then come into their own.

As I said in the OP, it's all about opinions, but I have to admit, I find some of those selections a bit strange. Close and Molyneux were both bloody awful last season, and Jones and Faulkner are both young and still learning.

Regarding Senior, those that have seen him play reckon he's a very good left back. Maxwell looked promising last season, but wasn't always consistent.

We'll just have to wait and see. However, I reckon GM will be going for a lot of high pressing, energetic physicality this coming season.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: selby on June 18, 2023, 08:41:05 pm
  Jones and Faulkner will get game time and will have to play for the shirt when they get the chance.
  They will be in our squad, one that is much stronger than last season when they should have played much more than they did in a poor team, led by a manager limited in ability and frightened of youth.
  They both have a new challenge now' they need to be on it, fit and ready for the challenge, I believe both have the ability and desire to rise to the challenge, might need patience at the start of the league programme, but need to meet the challenge head on.
  Nobody should be a shoe in, we have had a couple of years when favouritism and not picking our best players, playing them in systems and positions that didn't suit the players ability has got us in the position we are now in  the league.
  It is time to have a squad playing for each other, competing for places within the group, but the group having the common ground of wanting to win games of football together as a team.
  Then the club can move forward.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: RugbyRover on June 19, 2023, 08:33:43 am
                              Jones

Sterry           Faulkner          Wood          Maxwell

          Close             Bailey      Rowe

Molyneux                 Ironside                 Roberts


LJ is a way better keeper than Lawlor ever will be.
BF needs to stay in the team to learn from Wood. Anderson benched. The other center backs can all go for me.
Has anyone seen Senior play? Maxwell was largely decent and deserves to start.
Same with Broadbent, why pick him ahead of TR I don't know.
Close needs to deliver pretty sharpish or else will be chopped but will benefit from Bailey covering up his weaknesses and letting him concentrate on his strengths.
LM will be better with a overlapping full back behind him and Ironside ahead.
Hurst will come into the side if Roberts fails. 1st time loans are a risk and I expect big things from Hurst this year. Could also replace Rowe if he struggles.

Excited to see Sterry and Bailey and expect them two to make a big difference this year.
With Wood, Bailey and Ironside we look to have a spine of a team that will allow us to compete. The other ball players will then come into their own.

As I said in the OP, it's all about opinions, but I have to admit, I find some of those selections a bit strange. Close and Molyneux were both bloody awful last season, and Jones and Faulkner are both young and still learning.

Regarding Senior, those that have seen him play reckon he's a very good left back. Maxwell looked promising last season, but wasn't always consistent.

We'll just have to wait and see. However, I reckon GM will be going for a lot of high pressing, energetic physicality this coming season.

I thought some of your selections were strange too  ;)

Why pick a keeper who spent last year sitting on the bench in the Scottish Championship (Championship not Premiership). He was hardly a fans favorite in his first spell here. Jones was MOTM in his last two games.

Wood has been brought in to do the job that Anderson was supposed to do but failed. Anderson's backs gone and he's fallen behind in the pecking order. Now its all about getting the right partner for Wood. I think Bobby has all the attributes to compliment him, plus we need to have one eye on the future and continue Faulkner's development.

You are right about Close and Moly being crap last season, even Tommy Rowe. But they were all proven players before they were plunged into the cesspit of the "process". I'm expecting them to rediscover their true form with a better framework and better players around them.

If Senior turns out to be better than Maxwell then great, I've not seen him play. Maxwell did ok and was badly missed when he got injured.

As you say its all about opinions.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 19, 2023, 09:44:39 am
Faulkner is probably ahead of Long but behind Wood, Anderson and Olowu. If everyone is fit and we are playing 2 centre backs then it might at least initially be a struggle to make the bench.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: RobTheRover on June 19, 2023, 10:08:16 am
Interesting thread.

All I know for sure is that we have a capable squad who will have a full pre-season together and plenty of friendlies for fitness and for GM (and us) to take a good look at them, possibly in a number of different roles and formation. I'm looking forward to seeing what Grant and Cliff settle on as our strongest side as I'm buggered if I can call it right now.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Rovers91 on June 19, 2023, 10:13:12 am
Faulkner is probably ahead of along but behind Wood, Anderson and Olowu. If everyone is fit and we are playing 2 centre backs then it might at least initially be a struggle to make the bench.

I also think if Younger proves hit fitness he will get a years deal as the club must think something of him to invite him back. That debut at MK Dons he was immense and just had an horrid bit of luck last season.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: scawsby steve on June 19, 2023, 07:25:01 pm
                              Jones

Sterry           Faulkner          Wood          Maxwell

          Close             Bailey      Rowe

Molyneux                 Ironside                 Roberts


LJ is a way better keeper than Lawlor ever will be.
BF needs to stay in the team to learn from Wood. Anderson benched. The other center backs can all go for me.
Has anyone seen Senior play? Maxwell was largely decent and deserves to start.
Same with Broadbent, why pick him ahead of TR I don't know.
Close needs to deliver pretty sharpish or else will be chopped but will benefit from Bailey covering up his weaknesses and letting him concentrate on his strengths.
LM will be better with a overlapping full back behind him and Ironside ahead.
Hurst will come into the side if Roberts fails. 1st time loans are a risk and I expect big things from Hurst this year. Could also replace Rowe if he struggles.

Excited to see Sterry and Bailey and expect them two to make a big difference this year.
With Wood, Bailey and Ironside we look to have a spine of a team that will allow us to compete. The other ball players will then come into their own.

As I said in the OP, it's all about opinions, but I have to admit, I find some of those selections a bit strange. Close and Molyneux were both bloody awful last season, and Jones and Faulkner are both young and still learning.

Regarding Senior, those that have seen him play reckon he's a very good left back. Maxwell looked promising last season, but wasn't always consistent.

We'll just have to wait and see. However, I reckon GM will be going for a lot of high pressing, energetic physicality this coming season.

I thought some of your selections were strange too  ;)

Why pick a keeper who spent last year sitting on the bench in the Scottish Championship (Championship not Premiership). He was hardly a fans favorite in his first spell here. Jones was MOTM in his last two games.

Wood has been brought in to do the job that Anderson was supposed to do but failed. Anderson's backs gone and he's fallen behind in the pecking order. Now its all about getting the right partner for Wood. I think Bobby has all the attributes to compliment him, plus we need to have one eye on the future and continue Faulkner's development.

You are right about Close and Moly being crap last season, even Tommy Rowe. But they were all proven players before they were plunged into the cesspit of the "process". I'm expecting them to rediscover their true form with a better framework and better players around them.

If Senior turns out to be better than Maxwell then great, I've not seen him play. Maxwell did ok and was badly missed when he got injured.

As you say its all about opinions.

I agree with most of that, RR. Regarding the Lawlor situation, I'm not really saying who should be the number 1, as I'm not overly impressed with any of them, but GM praised him highly during the interview after his signing, so I'm basing my opinion on who I think he'll pick.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 19, 2023, 09:49:46 pm
Can see Lawlor been 1st choice at the start of the season but if he has a few too many wobblers I’d back Jones to get in and keep the shirt.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Alan Southstand on June 20, 2023, 05:00:03 pm
I still have the feeling that we havn’t got a No1 keeper. We have two lads that ‘will do a job’ but neither are outstanding for either L2, or L1. Similarly, we havn’t got the big physical presence in centre mid., but Bailey, perhaps gives us more ‘bite’ in there. Maybe these are the signings that will come later in GM’s reign, who knows.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 20, 2023, 05:33:51 pm
Lad from Sheff Utd is a big unit isn’t he?
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: NickDRFC on June 20, 2023, 05:55:19 pm
I still have the feeling that we havn’t got a No1 keeper. We have two lads that ‘will do a job’ but neither are outstanding for either L2, or L1. Similarly, we havn’t got the big physical presence in centre mid., but Bailey, perhaps gives us more ‘bite’ in there. Maybe these are the signings that will come later in GM’s reign, who knows.

We’ve got 3 senior keepers in the squad, I agree that I don’t think any are top end League Two but there’s no way we’re bringing another keeper in now unless we get a long term injury.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: rich1471 on June 20, 2023, 05:56:07 pm
I still have the feeling that we havn’t got a No1 keeper. We have two lads that ‘will do a job’ but neither are outstanding for either L2, or L1. Similarly, we havn’t got the big physical presence in centre mid., but Bailey, perhaps gives us more ‘bite’ in there. Maybe these are the signings that will come later in GM’s reign, who knows.
I cannot see Jones singing a new contract if he is going to be third chose keeper
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: ForsolongaRover on June 20, 2023, 06:26:58 pm
I still have the feeling that we havn’t got a No1 keeper. We have two lads that ‘will do a job’ but neither are outstanding for either L2, or L1. Similarly, we havn’t got the big physical presence in centre mid., but Bailey, perhaps gives us more ‘bite’ in there. Maybe these are the signings that will come later in GM’s reign, who knows.

Jones’s end-of-season games did not exploit his lack of athleticism and I’d put him behind Mitchell in every way except distribution. As for Lawlor, I remember him for his mistakes and unless he has put right the weakness which he had in dealing with long-range shots, we could have two below-average keepers. Moreover I cannot understand why McCann signed him when (very sensibly) he made Marosi his first choice.

The only consolation is the fact that squads do not have room for more than 3 or occasionally 4 goalkeepers, so signing competent free agents is not as difficult as with outfield players.

Or perhaps Bottomley will come through.
Title: Re: Starting 11
Post by: ncRover on June 20, 2023, 06:34:25 pm
I still have the feeling that we havn’t got a No1 keeper. We have two lads that ‘will do a job’ but neither are outstanding for either L2, or L1. Similarly, we havn’t got the big physical presence in centre mid., but Bailey, perhaps gives us more ‘bite’ in there. Maybe these are the signings that will come later in GM’s reign, who knows.

Apparently Bailey is strong in the air