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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Upton Rover on July 11, 2023, 07:32:52 pm
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I’ve herd this player is a trialist with us and playing tonight, I can’t make it tonight so any reviews on how he played would be appreciated, he was at Man United when a teenager, and was offered another contract in 2020 and refused as Patrick Viera wanted him at Nice, were Viera promised him first team football, Viera’s sacking and then the Covid pandemic put paid to this and he was put in to the reserves. A friend of mine who lives in Waterford told me he would be a good player at this level and above, and is highly rated but never had a good chance to prove this.
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Quicker than Rashford apparently
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I hope he’s great and signs for us because that is a superb name to concoct some chants for
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
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Unusual he’s named in the starting lineup as normally known as A trialist - is this significant or is McCann just open about it.
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You can hear it now Sotona oh oh oh, Sotona oh oh oh.
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You missed a ho out. Volari.
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Quicker than Rashford apparently
They said same about Ro-Shaun.
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Causing problems at Boston, apparently!
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He’s big in Boston, instead of Japan.
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
The good thing is Gaz we have chance to look at him and then decide. With Reo McSheffrey never saw him signed him in January on 2.5 year contract. He wasn’t good enough when we signed him and he’s shown that he still not good enough and got slower.
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Not a gamble, Gaz, he’s on trial. It seems he’s causing serious problems for the Boston defence - one already on a yellow card for a bad challenge on him. What would we have given for a player like him, last season? So Schofield could have played him at left back!
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Oh Deji Sotona, oh Deji Sotona and repeat!
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Oh Gaz….we humbly await your in depth, all knowing appraisal. Would you excuse me whilst you give it oh wise one? For some unknown reason I’ve suddenly become all nauseous.
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He was outstanding tonight, tore them apart in the first half, despite being completely poleaxed from behind after 15 minutes. Get him signed up
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He was outstanding tonight, tore them apart in the first half, despite being completely poleaxed from behind after 15 minutes. Get him signed up
GazLaz says “It’s another Reo type gamble. Not for me”.
The oracle has spoken.
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Might depend if we land our 'terrific signing for FL2' player or not?
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The lad looked really good tonight albeit against lower league opposition. Definitely been schooled in the Prem you could tell the way he screamed before the defender made contact. On the 45 minutes he played he deserves at least another chance
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On the 45 mins we saw of him….very impressive.
Certainly worth a further look.
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Yep. I’d play him at York
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Hurst had a good game last night as well
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Oh Gaz….we humbly await your in depth, all knowing appraisal. Would you excuse me whilst you give it oh wise one? For some unknown reason I’ve suddenly become all nauseous.
He was outstanding tonight, tore them apart in the first half, despite being completely poleaxed from behind after 15 minutes. Get him signed up
GazLaz says “It’s another Reo type gamble. Not for me”.
The oracle has spoken.
Bit of an overreaction to someone providing an opinion!
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Nobody knows a thing about him which obviously you could say is a gamble. However it's not really a gamble if he's signed with a view of being the third or 4th choice attacker and not taking a huge chunk out the budget.
When Reo signed it was like he was supposed to come in and be the main man and was generally useless
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Concerns about the complete lack of game time the lad has had . But he is very quick with the ball
At his feet and created a very good chance for himself in the first half only to pass the ball on un selfishly
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Unusual he’s named in the starting lineup as normally known as A trialist - is this significant or is McCann just open about it.
Maybe part of the conditions of the trial is to get his name out there.
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He's only just signed for Burnley by the looks of it so I'm guessing it was a trial before committing to a loan. He was absolutely brilliant last night. Yes it was against a National North team but his skill, pace, passing and work rate were superb.
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I would think if we were interested he would go to Scotland with the squad
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He's only just signed for Burnley by the looks of it so I'm guessing it was a trial before committing to a loan. He was absolutely brilliant last night. Yes it was against a National North team but his skill, pace, passing and work rate were superb.
He’s a free agent
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The reason he left Man Utd
https://www.unitedinfocus.com/academy/deji-sotona-discusses-leaving-manchester-united-for-first-team-football/
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The reason he left Man Utd
https://www.unitedinfocus.com/academy/deji-sotona-discusses-leaving-manchester-united-for-first-team-football/
That reminds me about Wellens answer when he was asked why he never made the Man Utd first team.
He said, “Four words, Giggs, Beckham, Scholes, Keane.
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Sounds like McCann was reasonably impressed and said we'll have to make a decision.
Thing is with triallists like him, he could go on trial with another club at the weekend seeing as we don't have another game while we're up in Scotland. From Satona's and hos agents perspective, would he want to stick around for the trip when he could be showing his worth to another club?
From our perspective, would you want to make a decision based on a few days training and 45 mins?
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Surely if we're interested we'd be taking him to Scotland to have a closer look?
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Surely if we're interested we'd be taking him to Scotland to have a closer look?
But would he want to go to Scotland if he can get a game at the weekend with someone else?
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The question is he’s probably shown more last night than Molyneux as shown for a season and still not showing. Grant got a decision to make and it might have to be made quickly we will see.
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He's only just signed for Burnley by the looks of it so I'm guessing it was a trial before committing to a loan. He was absolutely brilliant last night. Yes it was against a National North team but his skill, pace, passing and work rate were superb.
He’s not got a club
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I'm happy to stand corrected on his contract situation. I know it was only 45 minutes and that was against a team from two divisions below but he was a very exciting player and I'd be trying to sign him up.
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Me too Mike
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Did he travel to Scotland?
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I thought the cognoscenti of these pages were all saying we need an attacker with blistering pace. Surely he could be the last key in the jigsaw puzzle ?
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With a potential good resale value
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Sounds like he did well. However can’t get the red flag that is waving around in my head… released from 3 clubs, free agent with just a few weeks until the season to go. Is he a leftover of which we’ve signed too many of in recent seasons. Thankfully we are not desperate for numbers so can take time on this decision.Let’s see more of him.
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Sounds like he did well. However can’t get the red flag that is waving around in my head… released from 3 clubs, free agent with just a few weeks until the season to go. Is he a leftover of which we’ve signed too many of in recent seasons. Thankfully we are not desperate for numbers so can take time on this decision.Let’s see more of him.
He wasn’t released by Man Utd, he was offered a 3 year contract which he declined to seek first team opportunities, Vierra signed him for Nice then got the sack so didn’t get his chance there
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Yeah, but this ‘Reo thing’ keeps niggling away at me.
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Sounds like he did well. However can’t get the red flag that is waving around in my head… released from 3 clubs, free agent with just a few weeks until the season to go. Is he a leftover of which we’ve signed too many of in recent seasons. Thankfully we are not desperate for numbers so can take time on this decision.Let’s see more of him.
He wasn’t released by Man Utd, he was offered a 3 year contract which he declined to seek first team opportunities, Vierra signed him for Nice then got the sack so didn’t get his chance there
Thanks for the info Filo, maybe the red flag is on amber now?
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Yeah, but this ‘Reo thing’ keeps niggling away at me.
Reo signed on the last day of the January transfer window. He didn’t have preseason games to look at him. He was signed on a 2.5 year contract that was a poor decision among many in that transfer window. Panic selection and buying.
Grant will make his mind up over Deji all signings have some risk whether permanent or loans.
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Sounds like he did well. However can’t get the red flag that is waving around in my head… released from 3 clubs, free agent with just a few weeks until the season to go. Is he a leftover of which we’ve signed too many of in recent seasons. Thankfully we are not desperate for numbers so can take time on this decision.Let’s see more of him.
He wasn’t released by Man Utd, he was offered a 3 year contract which he declined to seek first team opportunities, Vierra signed him for Nice then got the sack so didn’t get his chance there
Thanks for the info Filo, maybe the red flag is on amber now?
Have you factored in his stint at Kilmarnock?
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Just a reminder - we’re in L2, not the Premiership, not the top league in Scotland and not the Championship and the last time I looked, we certainly wasn’t in any of the French leagues.
We’ve been so starved of getting a decent player through the door and now we’re worried that an ex ManU Academy player will not be good enough for the likes of us! I can’t get my breath!
As risk signings go - this lad has to be at the low end. This feels more like a’Wilks’ signing, rather than a ‘Griffiths’ one.
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Let me get this right, the lad was offered a 3 year contract by Man Utd and people are questioning if he is good enough for a L2 side?
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Did he travel to Scotland?
Doesn’t look like it based on video posted on Instagram live today
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Just a reminder - we’re in L2, not the Premiership, not the top league in Scotland and not the Championship and the last time I looked, we certainly wasn’t in any of the French leagues.
We’ve been so starved of getting a decent player through the door and now we’re worried that an ex ManU Academy player will not be good enough for the likes of us! I can’t get my breath!
As risk signings go - this lad has to be at the low end. This feels more like a’Wilks’ signing, rather than a ‘Griffiths’ one.
I don’t think being offered a Utd contract means a great deal. RoShaun Williams was on Utd’s books until he was 21. Reece Brown until he was almost 22. Reo Griffiths was also offered a contract with Spurs that he turned down to go to France so actually a very similar situation.
I’m not knocking Deji - he may sign and end up being very good - but I wouldn’t read too much into his history and instead I’d rather put my faith in McCann’s appraisal.
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Let me get this right, the lad was offered a 3 year contract by Man Utd and people are questioning if he is good enough for a L2 side?
Given his age back (17) then it was likely a development-type contract, not first team. Plenty of lads played for Man Utd at that age eg Ro-Shaun and Barlow but we’re never going to get anywhere near reserves let alone first team.
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Yeah, but this ‘Reo thing’ keeps niggling away at me.
Reo signed on the last day of the January transfer window. He didn’t have preseason games to look at him. He was signed on a 2.5 year contract that was a poor decision among many in that transfer window. Panic selection and buying.
Grant will make his mind up over Deji all signings have some risk whether permanent or loans.
Whoooosh!
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Yeah he's not in Scotland.
Pity ,wonder if they've moved on .
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Maybe rovers are letting him play this weekend for another team as rovers are just working on fitness and team bonding.
If he is invited back for the game on Tuesday night then I think we will likely sign him, if not then we or he will have moved on IMO
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Dropped a bolognese if we let this slippery fish through the net. Tie him to the lumber mill until we return from the foreign lands and sign his name on that contract in unicorn blood.
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I’ve not seen this lad play, but my question is how come he’s on trial with us and not anyone else, especially if he’s as good as people say
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Think we’re all scarred by Reo who was highly rated probably had big contract offers at spurs etc but is useless.
If we do it contract length is key. Nothing wrong with a 1 year deal to start.
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I’ve not seen this lad play, but my question is how come he’s on trial with us and not anyone else, especially if he’s as good as people say
Lots of friendlies on Saturday. He might pop up for someone else.
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Signed for two years!
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Signed for 2 years.
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Echo?
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Echo!
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Signed for two years!
Just seen at the training camp now must have been crossing.the T 's and dotting the I' s so to speak
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Excellent news! We’ve obviously had to move quickly on this one.
Now, the question is - will there be another loan?
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Excellent news! We’ve obviously had to move quickly on this one.
Now, the question is - will there be another loan?
I assume they didn't want him to have a trial run for another side this weekend and risk losing the chance of him signing for us
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Squad seems big now. I wonder what players he will want to move on. We are doubled up everywhere now at least.
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Based on the 45minutes I’ve seen him play excellent signing
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I was at Boston and the lad will be a great addition to the squad , I know people will say look how Barlow turned out but this kid has pace to burn and can get passed people , the rest can be coached by are excellent new coaching team
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Squad seems big now. I wonder what players he will want to move on. We are doubled up everywhere now at least.
Given the terrible injury record of recent seasons, a large squad might not be a bad thing.?
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What an excellent signing this looks.
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With 5 subs, a bigger squad will help. Must be about it though, for me we could still do with one more striker.
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Grant saw enough in training and in the 45 minutes to get him signed up so that's good enough for me hopefully he takes this opportunity and becomes the new wilkes with his direct running and taking risks
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In McCann we trust. Let's hope this lad matches the promise shown. We've seen so many fail to live up to it. I can remember only recently, high praise being given for the signing of Hiwula. In his first friendly, he was like sh*te off a shovel but then someone nicked the shovel.
The lads probably had to go home to sort a few things before rejoining us.
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I also think we need one more, but my choice would be a central defensive midfielder, as cover for Bailey.
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With 5 subs, a bigger squad will help. Must be about it though, for me we could still do with one more striker.
Unless Reo and Lavery leave we don't need a striker, we have Ironside, Miller, Lavery, Reo, Goodman and then Sotona and Molyneux who can play there as well.
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Great news this, on paper there’s not much to talk about him, so we all can’t say. We’ve got to trust in what GM saw in him, I can only say that I’ve been told by a mutual friend that we won’t be disappointed with him.
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https://youtu.be/VfEdIhMmRyE
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Big squad helps you to play pressing football.
Run your blood to water for 60 mins then get subbed.
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Big squad helps you to play pressing football.
Run your blood to water for 60 mins then get subbed.
That’s right
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https://youtu.be/VfEdIhMmRyE
Looking at that clip, our next signing needs to be a free kick specialist.
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https://youtu.be/VfEdIhMmRyE
Looks rapid
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Really looking forward to this lad. Clearly a gamble as GM states that not all feedback has been positive about him. Could be one of those lads whose form will swing from unplayable to a little wayward. Our new Malik. Good to see a manager talking about coaching to improve. Beats “moments”
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Looks a real addition to the team... GM can really find em...
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Seems exactly the type of player we should be gambling on, we are after all plying our trade now in League 2 !
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GM ain't daft, the fact he's signed him after just a weeks trial and 45mins and he's spoken to other people he must be impressed. Especially since its a 2 year deal and not a year.
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We now have something we’ve lacked or seasons, genuine pace on the flanks, With Tyler and this lad.
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I think a few L2 defenders will be seeing red and yellow cards after stopping him going past them.
We might get a few penalties too.
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This lad is real quick . Could become a real asset under GM. And has the potential to be a money spinner in future.
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Brilliant rebuild from GM and the team, bearing in mind we have only one loan player too
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For the first time in years I’m genuinely excited about the upcoming season. Feels like there’s a real buzz back in the place and hopefully we have our identity back after a horrific 2 and a half seasons.
Special thanks to Terry Bramhall for providing the funds for Grants rebuild.
Roll on the start of the season.
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Thanks Terry we owe you a lot
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I think a few L2 defenders will be seeing red and yellow cards after stopping him going past them.
We might get a few penalties too.
Think the same hopefully he can ride a challenge because if not he could pick up a few injuries
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For me I don't see him as a starter yet, bring him on when legs start tiring, will run riot.
Can you imagine being a defender when the legs start to feel heavy and this kid decides to stretch his legs.
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From our perspective, would you want to make a decision based on a few days training and 45 mins?
Decision made, DBR.
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Been saying this for a while. We lacked pace badly. This lad seems to offer this in great quantities.
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This, from Gab Sutton, on Twitter:
Deji Sotona was named #MUFC’s fastest player over Rashford & James, so we know he’ll be rapid.
Even if we assume he’s raw (which, who knows), it’s still exciting as he’d complete that equilibrium with Molyneux & Ironside who have other strengths.
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Don't think Molyneux will be a starter personally. If Hurst can get back to how he was first half of the season he's ahead of him for me
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As of now we have Sotona, Roberts Hurst and Molyneux with possibly Taylor when he proves his fitness. We will need those players if we are going to play a high pressing game. We’ve been told that Roberts has pace and so does Sotona. Hurst as good skills and Grant will get the best out of him. Molyneux is the question for me he was disappointing last season I expected more. So they will be all fighting to be the first choice to start. But they will all get game time. We will have good options off the bench.
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Very excited about this transfer. We now have depth in the wide area and been able to make 5 subs we can change both wide players with good replacements when there tired. GM must think he will get the best out of him and I he does we will have a real asset on our hands.
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Seems to be wearing 9 on his training gear hmmmmmm
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A bit of a gamble imho, he clearly impressed in a game against non league opposition but why could he not get a regular start at Kilmarnock.or Burnley is an obvious question. It seems McCann sees him in an impact sub role. An exciting prospect nonetheless who could become a fantastic find. Really looking forward to the new season now.
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A bit of a gamble imho, he clearly impressed in a game against non league opposition but why could he not get a regular start at Kilmarnock.or Burnley is an obvious question. It seems McCann sees him in an impact sub role. An exciting prospect nonetheless who could become a fantastic find. Really looking forward to the new season now.
He probably couldn’t get a regular start at Burnley because he’s not good enough to play for a team topping the Championship ahead of a couple of strikers with about 400 PL appearances between them or a South African international striker who cost £5m odd.
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If he’d got game time at Kilmarnock or Burnley do you seriously believe we could have signed him?
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If he’d got game time at Kilmarnock or Burnley do you seriously believe we could have signed him?
I guess not. But my point is that we do not know much about him. Hopefully Mc Cann has found a gem. Certainly this seasons recruitment seems to be an improvement on last season's.
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All I’ve got to go on is
1. McCann’s interview with Hoden, where he says they saw some good things all week in training
2. He was in a very strong ManU u18 side, with quite a few of that side since playing at Championship level (on loan).
With the right guidance, we could be in for a mega pay-out in the near future.
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Interesting to hear GM say he got bad feed back about him when he asked for references.
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Some, bad feedback. Lets have it in context
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Reminded me slightly of Andy Cole how he controls a ball, and that stop start then injection of pace. For me I would start him if he carries on playing as well when we play better opposition.
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Pretty sure most players will have had bad feedback at some stage.
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Pretty sure most players will have had bad feedback at some stage.
Just found it interesting that GM asked for references and he got bad ones. Certainly food for thought.
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He said he got some good and some bad. The only thing is we don’t know exactly what the bad things were! Further, if they were really bad things, don’t you think that would have swayed GM’s choice to one of his other ‘good’ options?
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Pretty sure most players will have had bad feedback at some stage.
Just found it interesting that GM asked for references and he got bad ones. Certainly food for thought.
"Some of the feedback is not great on Adeji...." is what he said.
McCann says he likes the challenge of coaching and developing players and that was probably the same with Wilks and others no doubt.
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After Man Utd, Nice and Burnley maybe he might realise he could be drinking in the last chance saloon?
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I like the fact McCann has gone on record stating he’s had negative feedback.
Makes me more confident he knows he will get something out of him.
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Shock horror young footballer, with bad attitude.
Lets be honest, many of them do at that age, when testosterone kicks in.
I trust Grant to man manage him. Its a low risk gamble for me, worth taking IMHO
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Pretty sure most players will have had bad feedback at some stage.
Just found it interesting that GM asked for references and he got bad ones. Certainly food for thought.
Why do I get the imoression that after your initial comments you can't wait for this lad to fail, to support your comments?
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Looks a great signing to me
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Pretty sure most players will have had bad feedback at some stage.
Just found it interesting that GM asked for references and he got bad ones. Certainly food for thought.
Why do I get the imoression that after your initial comments you can't wait for this lad to fail, to support your comments?
I don’t want him to fail at all. I never want any of our players to fail. Just thought it was a very interesting thing for a manager to say about a signing. Don’t think I’ve ever heard it before.
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"Some of the feedback is not great on Adeji...." is what he said.
He did say that, DBR, but just before it he said “different types of feedback comes back”. I interpret that as some good some bad!
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Of course he looks good on paper, coming from a very strong youth and development background. But Davy Lamour won the FA Youth Cup with Liverpool. Ro-Shaun was the fastest player at Old Trafford. He is a young lad so doesn't have a record he can point to. We've seen him for part of a pre-season friendly at sixth tier Boston United.
We all want him to do well and he certainly looked impressive at times in the very little we have seen of him. But successful trial players whether young or old are rare as hen's teeth. Let's hope this lad is one of them, but everyone making definitive statements about him being a success or good signing have lost the plot. Even Grant seems to be suggesting there is risk to the lad.
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"Some of the feedback is not great on Adeji...." is what he said.
He did say that, DBR, but just before it he said “different types of feedback comes back”. I interpret that as some good some bad!
Of course that's the implication but he certainly didn't say it was just bad feedback.
I think we all know McCann is saying he's weighed up the risk and is looking forward to polishing a rough diamond.
Who knows what's between the lads ears, it's definitely not been plain sailing for him. He may have a bit a chip on his shoulder wondering how he's found himself where he is. Maybe similar to Reo who received high praise as a youth and perhaps thought everything would fall into his path. (Although in Reo's case, it looks like he's had some body issues and is struggling physically). Sooner or later they have to accept where they are and only then can they move forward. The tests will come quickly so we'll have to see how he conducts himself when things go wrong, which they inevitably will from time to time. Hopefully, he'll show the good stuff too and relish the challenge.
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"Some of the feedback is not great on Adeji...." is what he said.
He did say that, DBR, but just before it he said “different types of feedback comes back”. I interpret that as some good some bad!
Of course that's the implication but he certainly didn't say it was just bad feedback.
I think we all know McCann is saying he's weighed up the risk and is looking forward to polishing a rough diamond.
Who knows what's between the lads ears, it's definitely not been plain sailing for him. He may have a bit a chip on his shoulder wondering how he's found himself where he is. Maybe similar to Reo who received high praise as a youth and perhaps thought everything would fall into his path. (Although in Reo's case, it looks like he's had some body issues and is struggling physically). Sooner or later they have to accept where they are and only then can they move forward. The tests will come quickly so we'll have to see how he conducts himself when things go wrong, which they inevitably will from time to time. Hopefully, he'll show the good stuff too and relish the challenge.
I'm sure his contract (salary) will reflect the obvious risk of signing him. It may be a sliding scale type of contract where it is based on milestones (appearances, assist etc) and may be reviewed after a year. We will not have spent a massive amount financially on this signing Im pretty sure of that.
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Signed for 2 years.
And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?
A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?
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https://youtu.be/6klcsCfwdFg
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This ain’t no Adien Barlow lads , I’m sure he will need coaching but I’m confident we have a good one here
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Watching his videos he could be the new McIndoe, with a bit more pace! Certainly looks like one to get us off our seats anyway. Great signing, welcome Deji.
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The difference between a loan and a contracted signing?
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Signed for 2 years.
And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?
A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?
What are you on about?? Let’s see how he gets on and we can pick up this conversation at the end or the season.
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Signed for 2 years.
And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?
A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?
What are you on about?? Let’s see how he gets on and we can pick up this conversation at the end or the season.
I’m on about the comparison with Reo you made on a player you’ve never seen play yet those who have are raving about him & GM has just given him a two year contract.
I look forward to embarrassing you with that comment next May.
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Signed for 2 years.
And?…Another ‘Reo type’ or is it time to hold your hands up & defer to Grant?
A little bit of humble pie might just ‘settle your stomach’ for future knee jerk ‘throw away’ comments?
What are you on about?? Let’s see how he gets on and we can pick up this conversation at the end or the season.
I’m on about the comparison with Reo you made on a player you’ve never seen play yet those who have are raving about him & GM has just given him a two year contract.
I look forward to embarrassing you with that comment next May.
His profile is pretty much exactly the same as Reo’s. People were hyped up over him signing and look what’s happened there.
This may end up being a great signing, I’ve never said that’s impossible. These type of signings tend to end up being underwhelming more than they prove to be hitting the jackpot.
By the way, it’s absolutely impossible for you to embarrass me.
Even if he scores 20 goals and leaves for 10m in the summer I’m perfectly happy with how I am assessing the signing. I know the relative chances of these types of gambles working out.
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But doesn't want him to fail!
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But doesn't want him to fail!
I honestly don’t know how anyone can think a supporter wants signings to fail.
People don’t seem to understand the concept of opinion. They can and do change. Perhaps yours and Colin C’s don’t so you can’t grasp this!
It is entirely possible to be underwhelmed with a signing or think it’s unlikely to prove to be a good one long term and be pleasantly surprised when proved wrong.
I don’t want to see us playing in a mug league. I want us to get promoted and start playing proper teams again as much as anyone. If you think I travel around the country watching us play want img the players to fail you are deranged.
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I can’t see anywhere where Gaz has hinted that he hopes Deji fails tbh
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Nobody wants a player to fail, I hope Deji goes on to be a top player, but there is no need for people to get over-enthusiastic about any player when we haven't even seen him play a league match. He has the possibility of being good with his speed and what we have seen of his ability, but it is like any other pre-season, wait and see, pass judgment after a dozen or more games in the league.
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No one can say if he’s a world beater or not based on 45 mins against non league and some YouTube clips playing against academy players.
Grant has signed him but that doesn’t mean he’s a guaranteed success, just that he thinks he’s worth taking the risk on. Let’s hope he settles and has a good season.
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He has pace going for him at least. Reo never seemed that quick and Barlow, who I’d class as similar in terms of taking a chance on, wasn’t particularly fast either.
Also at present we are lacking pace so he’s a chance of more game time just by been different to what we’ve got.
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Usain Bolt fancied himself as a footballer and didn’t do better than the Australian A League. Pace isn’t everything.
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He is here to stay by the looks of it. He has everything to play for, and a chance to shine .
Rovers are surely due some good fortune in the recruitment dept .
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So much in sport is down to attitude. Eg the Kevin Keegan factor. Not the most gifted of players but one of the best of his generation in terms of passion, effort and consequent performance. Judging from Deji's interview he does not come across as Mr Charisma but more of a reserved and shy type so we have to hope that his football does the talking.
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I can’t see anywhere where Gaz has hinted that he hopes Deji fails tbh
Sadly looking back on his comments they haven't been exactly gushing with praise or excitement at Deji signing. I haven't seen his cameo appearance at Boston I don't know if Gaz did or not or if he is going off the stats he tells us he looks at, but others were quite excited at the prospect of signing him.
To me, and I'm sure Gaz will disagree, his comments have come over as a little lacking in optimism and has made his mind or opinion up from his 1st post onwards, hence my thoughts about him expecting him to fail. As he says let's look at it again at the end of the season to see whether Gaz is right with his "not for me" initial comment.
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I can’t see anywhere where Gaz has hinted that he hopes Deji fails tbh
Sadly looking back on his comments they haven't been exactly gushing with praise or excitement at Deji signing. I haven't seen his cameo appearance at Boston I don't know if Gaz did or not or if he is going off the stats he tells us he looks at, but others were quite excited at the prospect of signing him.
To me, and I'm sure Gaz will disagree, his comments have come over as a little lacking in optimism and has made his mind or opinion up from his 1st post onwards, hence my thoughts about him expecting him to fail. As he says let's look at it again at the end of the season to see whether Gaz is right with his "not for me" initial comment.
It's football. People have opinions.
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I was at Boston and have tried to temper my enthusiasm by adding “based on the 45minutes I saw against lower league opposition” however I’m slightly giddy about this signing
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I look at it like this, if he had a fantastic career so far and all the feedback about him was great, he wouldn't have even been trialling with us, never mind signing.
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I usually like to see a player two or three times before I form my opinion on how good they might be for us.
Those you tube clips only show the good stuff don’t they, although the good stuff they showed on Deji were quite impressive.
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I can’t remember what Gaz thought about the Wilks and Kane signings, back when GM was with us the first time around, but they were probably similar about those two?
The thing that keeps popping into my mind is - what made GM sign him? He had, according to what he told us, 4 or 5 very good options on the table and couldn’t make his mind up. Then, suddenly, we signed Deji. Something tipped the balance and, if GM had seen his stats and had some negative
feedback, there must have been something really positive to outweigh the negatives. And that’s where I am - trusting GM’s opinion about him, as well as having my own ‘gut feeling’.
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I watched GM at Rossington meet the management.
He talks of another player who is at a club. He then suggests the player would compete with Miller and Ironside.
It feels like one more to come and DS is a little bit of a wildcard signing.
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From good reliable sources this guy should become a great signing for us, he’s got all the qualities that we need, and can play in 3 positions, Our old manager DM wanted this guy at Sheffield Wednesday and Derby also wanted him, he told both clubs that he wouldn’t go if there was no guarantee of first team football, and he decided to join Viera at Nice, I will say now that he will become one of the best players for our club resulting in a good payday down the line if contracts are managed correctly.
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Upton dude, can I ask a question, could you please tell us a bit more about your sources.?
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Will give the lad a chance and see what he has in his locker. As others have said, it is difficult to assess a player based on 45 minutes and he has a rather average and undistinguished past. I get the impression he has the ability to be a good player..... if he wants to put a shift in and work for it. Anyone remember Kyle Bennett...?
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I can’t remember what Gaz thought about the Wilks and Kane signings, back when GM was with us the first time around, but they were probably similar about those two?
The thing that keeps popping into my mind is - what made GM sign him? He had, according to what he told us, 4 or 5 very good options on the table and couldn’t make his mind up. Then, suddenly, we signed Deji. Something tipped the balance and, if GM had seen his stats and had some negative
feedback, there must have been something really positive to outweigh the negatives. And that’s where I am - trusting GM’s opinion about him, as well as having my own ‘gut feeling’.
More than likely GM had a call from Deji's agent saying that he was going to trial with another team and if he wanted to sign him it was his last chance. If GM thought it was right to take the gamble then I'm fine with that!
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
You should be embarrassed at a comment like that.
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
You should be embarrassed at a comment like that.
Why? It is factually correct. He's a young attacking player with a high reputation who started in a big clubs academy, then went abroad for better opportunities which didn't come and he's returned here. It was a gamble signing someone with so little first team experience in Reo and is again a gamble with Deji, it may come off but it's still a gamble.
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
You should be embarrassed at a comment like that.
You are obsessed. Reo and Barlow are two players we signed permanently with little to no first team experience, that had played for top clubs and also represented their country. Both proved to be unsuccessful.
We are at the bottom of the food chain, all clubs have dossiers on these former big academy players thicker than the yellow pages. There tends to be reasons they don’t get snapped up by bigger fish than us. The real good ones very rarely get missed by the bigger, smarter clubs. That’s all I’m saying.
Hope to see him in person tomorrow night against Wednesday.
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
You should be embarrassed at a comment like that.
You are obsessed. Reo and Barlow are two players we signed permanently with little to no first team experience, that had played for top clubs and also represented their country. Both proved to be unsuccessful.
We are at the bottom of the food chain, all clubs have dossiers on these former big academy players thicker than the yellow pages. There tends to be reasons they don’t get snapped up by bigger fish than us. The real good ones very rarely get missed by the bigger, smarter clubs. That’s all I’m saying.
Hope to see him in person tomorrow night against Wednesday.
You’ll be disappointed we play York tomorrow night
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
You should be embarrassed at a comment like that.
You are obsessed. Reo and Barlow are two players we signed permanently with little to no first team experience, that had played for top clubs and also represented their country. Both proved to be unsuccessful.
We are at the bottom of the food chain, all clubs have dossiers on these former big academy players thicker than the yellow pages. There tends to be reasons they don’t get snapped up by bigger fish than us. The real good ones very rarely get missed by the bigger, smarter clubs. That’s all I’m saying.
Hope to see him in person tomorrow night against Wednesday.
I’ll look forward to reading your in depth report…..unless you end up in Sheffield.
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Don't know why there is so much animosity towards GazLaz. If you look back on previous comments made about certain players/signings he's not been far wrong.
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
You should be embarrassed at a comment like that.
Why? It is factually correct. He's a young attacking player with a high reputation who started in a big clubs academy, then went abroad for better opportunities which didn't come and he's returned here. It was a gamble signing someone with so little first team experience in Reo and is again a gamble with Deji, it may come off but it's still a gamble.
every signing is a gamble.
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Another Reo type gamble. Not for me.
You should be embarrassed at a comment like that.
You are obsessed. Reo and Barlow are two players we signed permanently with little to no first team experience, that had played for top clubs and also represented their country. Both proved to be unsuccessful.
We are at the bottom of the food chain, all clubs have dossiers on these former big academy players thicker than the yellow pages. There tends to be reasons they don’t get snapped up by bigger fish than us. The real good ones very rarely get missed by the bigger, smarter clubs. That’s all I’m saying.
Hope to see him in person tomorrow night against Wednesday.
You’ll be disappointed we play York tomorrow night
FFS!
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Don't know why there is so much animosity towards GazLaz. If you look back on previous comments made about certain players/signings he's not been far wrong.
Think some feel a need to one-up him because he does this for a living. Not sure he has said anything particularly objectionable here to be honest.
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Some people need to chill a little.
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It's a fair comment by Gaz to suggest that it's another Reo type gamble and like he's stated we're well down the food chain when it comes to any exciting young players from the Prem. However I can see Colin's perspective and I will add that the majority of Gaz's posts come across as he's real cock sure of himself and his opinion is superior to anyone elses. I don't know the guy and this may not be his intention, people sometimes come across different when they type so I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn . I know he's big on stats and they are hugely important in today's game but they're not always the be all and end all . Gaz made some good shouts on players last pre season but like I said I can see both side of the argument and happy to put faith in our manager.
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I must have missed something here. What does Gaz do for a living that's connected with football, and who for?
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He’s Gary Mcsheffrey
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Off the line blog reckons we’ve had the 2nd best window in league 2.
https://offtheline599656488.wordpress.com/2023/07/10/sky-bet-league-two-1-24-transfer-table/
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It's a fair comment by Gaz to suggest that it's another Reo type gamble and like he's stated we're well down the food chain when it comes to any exciting young players from the Prem. However I can see Colin's perspective and I will add that the majority of Gaz's posts come across as he's real cock sure of himself and his opinion is superior to anyone elses. I don't know the guy and this may not be his intention, people sometimes come across different when they type so I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn . I know he's big on stats and they are hugely important in today's game but they're not always the be all and end all . Gaz made some good shouts on players last pre season but like I said I can see both side of the argument and happy to put faith in our manager.
God forbid having an opinion about football on a football forum!
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Joe Ironside, another Joe Dodoo gamble. Not for me.
Mind you, I like what I’m hearing about Deji Sotona & look forward to seeing him personally soon. Somewhere in Yorkshire.
Just an opinion.
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It's a fair comment by Gaz to suggest that it's another Reo type gamble and like he's stated we're well down the food chain when it comes to any exciting young players from the Prem. However I can see Colin's perspective and I will add that the majority of Gaz's posts come across as he's real cock sure of himself and his opinion is superior to anyone elses. I don't know the guy and this may not be his intention, people sometimes come across different when they type so I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn . I know he's big on stats and they are hugely important in today's game but they're not always the be all and end all . Gaz made some good shouts on players last pre season but like I said I can see both side of the argument and happy to put faith in our manager.
God forbid having an opinion about football on a football forum!
Every player we bring in is a total gamble, some of the best players in the world don’t fit into some teams, with what I’ve been told of this player is “ he should and will be a great addition to our squad” and just needs regular action and we will all see his capabilities. He’s turned down the likes of another contract with Man United , also DM wanted him the other year at Sheffield Wednesday and Derby County were also close to offering a contract of late, all turned down due to the lad wanting the guarantee of first team football, I’m sticking my neck out and will say he will become our most expensive player ever, come the day that we sell him on, if we get his contracts right.
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There's an thread on the Killie site about this fella...
https://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/14861-deji-sotona/
They seem to have been similarly excited about him - early pages of thread....... but some seem to think his agent has been doing a brilliant job.... :unsure:
and this one isn't overly glowing... bottom of page and next few pages.
https://www.killiefc.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16194-kilmarnock-transfer-summer-2023/page/163/
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On the other hand they’re excited at the potential signing of Curtis Main…
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It's a fair comment by Gaz to suggest that it's another Reo type gamble and like he's stated we're well down the food chain when it comes to any exciting young players from the Prem. However I can see Colin's perspective and I will add that the majority of Gaz's posts come across as he's real cock sure of himself and his opinion is superior to anyone elses. I don't know the guy and this may not be his intention, people sometimes come across different when they type so I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn . I know he's big on stats and they are hugely important in today's game but they're not always the be all and end all . Gaz made some good shouts on players last pre season but like I said I can see both side of the argument and happy to put faith in our manager.
God forbid having an opinion about football on a football forum!
Every player we bring in is a total gamble, some of the best players in the world don’t fit into some teams, with what I’ve been told of this player is “ he should and will be a great addition to our squad” and just needs regular action and we will all see his capabilities. He’s turned down the likes of another contract with Man United , also DM wanted him the other year at Sheffield Wednesday and Derby County were also close to offering a contract of late, all turned down due to the lad wanting the guarantee of first team football, I’m sticking my neck out and will say he will become our most expensive player ever, come the day that we sell him on, if we get his contracts right.
Every player isn’t a total gamble.
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It's a fair comment by Gaz to suggest that it's another Reo type gamble and like he's stated we're well down the food chain when it comes to any exciting young players from the Prem. However I can see Colin's perspective and I will add that the majority of Gaz's posts come across as he's real cock sure of himself and his opinion is superior to anyone elses. I don't know the guy and this may not be his intention, people sometimes come across different when they type so I apologize if I'm speaking out of turn . I know he's big on stats and they are hugely important in today's game but they're not always the be all and end all . Gaz made some good shouts on players last pre season but like I said I can see both side of the argument and happy to put faith in our manager.
God forbid having an opinion about football on a football forum!
Every player we bring in is a total gamble, some of the best players in the world don’t fit into some teams, with what I’ve been told of this player is “ he should and will be a great addition to our squad” and just needs regular action and we will all see his capabilities. He’s turned down the likes of another contract with Man United , also DM wanted him the other year at Sheffield Wednesday and Derby County were also close to offering a contract of late, all turned down due to the lad wanting the guarantee of first team football, I’m sticking my neck out and will say he will become our most expensive player ever, come the day that we sell him on, if we get his contracts right.
Every player isn’t a total gamble.
I don’t think your wrong off the mark with Deji. There are plenty of players who will happily sit out their contracts at clubs for the £££ knowing they’re not in a new managers plans then there are players like Delle & Deji who just want to play football.
I think if you sign a McKindoe or a Neil Sullivan for example, then you know there’s little chance of a gamble.
Now that’s what you call ‘an interaction’ GazLaz as opposed to an all knowing, arrogant ‘slap down’ as andyst79 was alluding to in an earlier thread which as usual you quoted & ‘answered’ with a one line jibe.
I don’t think I’d like to be sat next to you at a game.
Jibe away.
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I doubt that Deji will be on big money so is not much of a gamble.
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The guy seems to have the right attitude, was offered a contract at Man Utd, turned it down because he knew he wasn’t going to play. Tried a few other places and it hasn’t worked out. He looks promising, but hard work will make him a success.
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Seems to be getting Better the more game time he has, GM doing all the right things with this lad, be a 3million player in 3 years
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Pity we’ve only given him 2 years
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Have watched him train but not seen him ‘live’ yet due to me being on holiday.
The reports sound good though - we might have unearthed a little gem here.
Despite alternative views.
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Not the best when defending and not on the ball, when on the ball always drops the right shoulder and goes left past players like Moly and tends to cut across the path of a defender to draw the free kick.
Again not the best at passing the ball and needs to start to know where players are around him, but shows willing and lots of promise with if he takes coaching on board and starts to look to use his pace and take players both sides of the defender he could be the real deal.
Not the greatest at the moment in his own half of the field, but a danger used up field with his pace, and though critical of his defensive contribution he works hard and tries, all we can ask the sort of player at present that will tear a team to bits one game in ten.
To me work in progress but shows a lot of promise and with the right coaching can do very well.
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He seems keen to improve and if we can get him enjoying his time (in a winning team !!) we will have got some talent here
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A winger without passes, crosses, shots assists and goals might as well be a dustbin.
You can only admire pace, nifty footwork for so long before they need to deliver. I hope he settles and finds his place in the team by showing its not about him but the team.
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A winger without passes, crosses, shots assists and goals might as well be a dustbin.
You can only admire pace, nifty footwork for so long before they need to deliver. I hope he settles and finds his place in the team by showing its not about him but the team.
Jon Taylor?
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To be fair to Deji, his cam measured pass to Rowe after a pacy run, lots of step overs created our best chance.
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Seems to have an edge about him which i think every footballer needs, if we can get him to get his head up and look to offload a bit more he can be a valuable asset, i'd think with this type of player you don't want to temper his individuality too much as it could ruin his game, if he can take on board some instruction he will prosper.
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Deji reminds me a bit of Kyle Bennet, quick feet.
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Certain to be sent off this season. Probably be banned for picking up 5 yellow cards all for throwing a wobbler too.