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Title: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: ian1980 on August 30, 2023, 07:04:47 pm
Tonight’s line up:
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 07:15:29 pm
Senior and Olowu as centre backs? Then the three dwarves in midfield against Onana (6”4) and Doucouré (6”1).
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Post by: ravenrover on August 30, 2023, 07:16:28 pm
Or a back 3 of Senior Olowu and Maxwell?
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Post by: RugbyRover on August 30, 2023, 07:24:40 pm
Looking at that setup I can only assume we're concentrating on the League and saving out best for the weekend.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Thorney on August 30, 2023, 07:27:55 pm
Looking at that setup I can only assume we're concentrating on the League and saving out best for the weekend.

Not really, only wood who is kn the bench is a regular starter,
Reckon mccann knows wood is too slow for this and left him out, this looks a more attacking set up to me
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: ScillyRover on August 30, 2023, 07:35:53 pm
Certainly looks an attack minded lineup but dreading the fact that defence is a disaster or two waiting to happen. Can only see the Everton forwards having a field day.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 07:59:13 pm
Defence looks experimental and this is clearly not a game to be experimenting. Midfield will get overrun immediately so add that to the defensive experiment means we are going to be on back foot from the off.
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Post by: ChrisBx on August 30, 2023, 08:03:13 pm
How has Olowu f**ked that chance?
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 08:05:39 pm
Games like this usually deliver very few chances. f**k them up and they don’t come round again.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 08:13:03 pm
Decent first 10 I think
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: ChrisBx on August 30, 2023, 08:16:20 pm
Very good start from us. Faal should have forced that headed chance with more aggression.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 08:18:18 pm
Great start but we will run out of juice come second half so we need to have something soon to show for it.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: normal rules on August 30, 2023, 08:20:12 pm
20 mins and pretty even I’d say so far
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Thorney on August 30, 2023, 08:20:56 pm
We are having to do alot of running off the ball, worried bout running out of gas here
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Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 08:25:01 pm
If anything Rovers looking the better team currently, this is what we want, Rovers becoming more confident in themselves.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: jm291 on August 30, 2023, 08:27:53 pm
Playing well but Faal has given the ball away literally every time. Needs to learn to pass
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 30, 2023, 08:28:11 pm
I’m watching the game in deepest, darkest South London with Spurs, West Ham and Palace fans. The comments so far are “how the f**k are you bottom of the whole league?” That’s nice to hear but got to be the kiss of death!
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Post by: Copps is Magic on August 30, 2023, 08:28:52 pm
Great start (apart from Faal, f**k me).
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Post by: rtid88 on August 30, 2023, 08:29:45 pm
Definitely the better team and should be at least one goal up. Faal currently looks a terrible signing, his touch looks poor and seems scared to head a ball. Hope it's just a confidence thing.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 08:38:35 pm
The one thing I’m getting from the game so far is that we’ve finally found the right formation
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: ChrisBx on August 30, 2023, 08:39:22 pm
We've been excellent so far.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 08:39:36 pm
Faal is one of them that can look like Bambi one second a world beater the next
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 08:39:51 pm
We've been excellent so far.

It's enjoyable so far
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 30, 2023, 08:40:25 pm
Making up for lack of quality in midfield with numbers
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 08:42:06 pm
Faal is one of them that can look like Bambi one second a world beater the next

He’s like a cross between Leo Fortune-West and Jay Emmanuel-Thomas
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 08:43:37 pm
Making up for lack of quality in midfield with numbers

Needs must DU but at present it’s working and must be a better solution against lesser opponents in the League
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 08:44:02 pm
Why can't we play like this in the league
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 30, 2023, 08:44:02 pm
Faal is one of them that can look like Bambi one second a world beater the next

I'm waiting for the world beater part.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 30, 2023, 08:45:36 pm
Wow Ironsides!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 08:46:18 pm
1-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 08:46:35 pm
Gerriiinn
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: ChrisBx on August 30, 2023, 08:47:27 pm
We deserve the lead. Brilliant half!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 08:48:44 pm
Hahahah well deserved. If that was Goodison VAR would have chalked it off
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 08:48:57 pm
Fantastic let's do this boys
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 30, 2023, 08:50:05 pm
A foot onside on my telly. [Insert pinocchio emoji]
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 08:50:41 pm
Rowe unlucky not to make it two
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: bobjimwilly on August 30, 2023, 08:50:46 pm
great half from Rovers - well deserved 1-0 lead. Everton outplayed all over pitch and only 1 shot on target.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: bobjimwilly on August 30, 2023, 08:51:36 pm
hopefully Faal can get a bit more involved 2nd half
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 30, 2023, 08:52:03 pm
Entertaining, positive, energetic, and winning. What's not to like?
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 08:52:20 pm
Goal very offside but tough shit!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Sprotyrover on August 30, 2023, 08:52:36 pm
Why can't we play like this in the league
Play against ‘Greased up Pigs ‘ in the league!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 08:56:57 pm
Everton been drinking same energy drinks we normally use in league. Two yards off pace at best.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Peebles Rover on August 30, 2023, 08:58:03 pm
Wow, at last a half of football from the rovers to make you proud. Hope we don’t sit back too deep too early this half
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 08:59:00 pm
From the Everton forum.....

Only one team has wanted to win this, we have been outplayed, outfought, outthought, and basically played off the park. We can not pass a ball, lost count of the times a ball has been fired to another player or played just behind him. It's pure panic, the ball is a hot potato. Chermiti has looked like a novice, bullied all through the first half. Dobbin like Rabbit in the headlights, Keane has been his usual, pathetic coward of a man, get off and don't come back. How can a lower level team look fitter, stronger and more calm on the ball ?
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 09:03:42 pm
3 changes for Everton
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Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:04:01 pm
3 subs coming onthis could be interesting
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:05:12 pm
Looking at Everton, they have given us too much space at times. I imagine Dyche will have noticed and they will be more fired up for the 2nd half, more in our faces. Also, they're likely to make more space for themselves, try to keep possession.

Just hoping our fitness lasts. Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: phil o sophical on August 30, 2023, 09:05:22 pm
£28 million Beto coming on, we must have shaken them up
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: ChrisBx on August 30, 2023, 09:05:34 pm
Beto looks an absolute unit.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:06:34 pm
From the Everton forum.....

Only one team has wanted to win this, we have been outplayed, outfought, outthought, and basically played off the park. We can not pass a ball, lost count of the times a ball has been fired to another player or played just behind him. It's pure panic, the ball is a hot potato. Chermiti has looked like a novice, bullied all through the first half. Dobbin like Rabbit in the headlights, Keane has been his usual, pathetic coward of a man, get off and don't come back. How can a lower level team look fitter, stronger and more calm on the ball ?




Back to being TLO Doncaster! Brilliant!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:07:57 pm
Beto new and improved faal
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:09:43 pm
From the Everton forum.....

Only one team has wanted to win this, we have been outplayed, outfought, outthought, and basically played off the park. We can not pass a ball, lost count of the times a ball has been fired to another player or played just behind him. It's pure panic, the ball is a hot potato. Chermiti has looked like a novice, bullied all through the first half. Dobbin like Rabbit in the headlights, Keane has been his usual, pathetic coward of a man, get off and don't come back. How can a lower level team look fitter, stronger and more calm on the ball ?




Back to being TLO Doncaster! Brilliant!

“usual pathetic, coward of a man”

That cuts deep. Jesus.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:10:33 pm
What does Sotana look like in this game? Bring him on at any stage could be absolute chaos.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 09:11:24 pm
Everton have certainly started better in this half
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:12:22 pm
Think faal needs to come off done nothing so far
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:15:28 pm
Deffo handball
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:16:45 pm
If var offside goal ruled out and that would have been a penalty so evened it out so far
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 09:16:54 pm
Definitely and a possible red has he stopped a clear goal opportunity
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 09:19:03 pm
Olowu is having a great game
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:19:56 pm
Betting on Rovers winning has gone from 10/1 against at the start of this match to 11/10 now. Something has changed their mind!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Guernsey Exile on August 30, 2023, 09:22:34 pm
Faal needs to come off. Maybe Sotona to come on
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Copps is Magic on August 30, 2023, 09:23:32 pm
Got to take him off. He's not even pressing.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:24:20 pm
“Attack is the secret of defense; defense is the planning of an attack.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:25:52 pm
Faal needs to come off. Maybe Sotona to come on

I’d back this. Everton won’t have a clue how to handle him. We don’t so they can’t possibly.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:26:40 pm
Everton fans getting increasingly peed off
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Thorney on August 30, 2023, 09:27:30 pm
Could do with some pace coming on to get us out.

But I ain't a manager. Leave that to grant
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on August 30, 2023, 09:28:37 pm
Gutted I couldn’t make this one. Listening on radio sounds like we’re flagging a bit and looking tired
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:28:48 pm
We’re really struggling now. If we end up defending then we will lose. The lad they brought on is making this a different game.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:29:45 pm
Roberts for Rowe. Surprised Faal still on.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:30:36 pm
Faal needs to start using them legs to out pace his man
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:31:39 pm
Beto!  :laugh:

 :facepalm: :crying:
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:31:47 pm
Bugger!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:32:48 pm
May as well get Sotana on now. We can’t defend this out.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 09:32:57 pm
Bugger but it was coming
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:34:29 pm
Get faal off walking around up front no closing down just doesn't seem to care
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Thorney on August 30, 2023, 09:37:39 pm
They have had to fetch a £26 million  player on.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:38:42 pm
Delighted to be proved wrong but this has absolutely every appearance of the bigger side scoring late in game to win. Only one side I think likely to score now. Question is whether we can withstand the huge pressure they will put us under in last 5-10 minutes to see this to penalties.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:39:18 pm
Get faal off walking around up front no closing down just doesn't seem to care

A bit harsh.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:40:50 pm
Delighted to be proved wrong but this has absolutely every appearance of the bigger side scoring late in game to win. Only one side I think likely to score now. Question is whether we can withstand the huge pressure they will put us under in last 5-10 minutes to see this to penalties.

Or a final minute mess of a goal for the "small" side!
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:41:07 pm
We playing like Everton were in the 1st half
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Post by: ChrisBx on August 30, 2023, 09:41:51 pm
We look absolutely f**ked. Having no fit central midfielder to bring on shows.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:42:47 pm
Looking v tired, making mistakes, losing the ball far too easily.
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Post by: Dutch Uncle on August 30, 2023, 09:43:13 pm
Whatever happens many positives tonight
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Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 30, 2023, 09:43:26 pm
The premier league lads down here saying we are playing too ‘honestly’. Everton know how to win those 50/50 challenges to get a free kick.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on August 30, 2023, 09:44:10 pm
Fitness needs looking at. Been a common theme so far this season

Can forgive it this game but sounds like we’ve faded earlier than you’d expect
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:44:29 pm
Come on rovers just need that one chance
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 30, 2023, 09:44:50 pm
The lads have done us proud tonight whatever happens.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on August 30, 2023, 09:46:44 pm
Fitness needs looking at. Been a common theme so far this season

Can forgive it this game but sounds like we’ve faded earlier than you’d expect

We are playing against a ‘fresh’ premier league forward here. Give ‘em a break eh?
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:47:42 pm
Ah well, a great dream while it lasted
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:49:01 pm
Delighted to be proved wrong but this has absolutely every appearance of the bigger side scoring late in game to win. Only one side I think likely to score now. Question is whether we can withstand the huge pressure they will put us under in last 5-10 minutes to see this to penalties.

Or a final minute mess of a goal for the "small" side!

Afraid this was always going to happen really. We ran out of steam some time ago. Let’s keep it at 2-1 and walk away with head held high.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: SydneyRover on August 30, 2023, 09:49:19 pm
From the Guardian live

''Hats off to Beto, who didn’t let that awful shanked effort bother him. Having scored the equaliser with a cute flick of the boot, he’s now hammered a shot off the crossbar. He looks a player of extreme highs and lows. Another agent of chaos on Merseyside? What an entertainer''
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 09:49:36 pm
Nothing to be ashamed of we’ve given them a game but those missed chances are coming back to haunt us
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:50:44 pm
It’s absolutely template cup game featuring big / small club. With predictable result.

We need to capture best of this and take it to the Swindon game. Fear is that we are now so knackered chasing this that it will be very flat on Saturday.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: SydneyRover on August 30, 2023, 09:51:39 pm
''GOAL! Doncaster 1-2 Everton (Danjuma 88). Beto’s scored his first goal for Everton tonight; now it’s Arnaut Danjuma’s turn! He cuts in from the left, drops a shoulder to make space, and whips a low shot into the bottom left. Everton have turned it around, and in some style it has to be said. As superb in the second half as they were dreadful in the first''
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Post by: Superspy on August 30, 2023, 09:53:01 pm
Is that 2 goals scored by a combined 45 million give or take? Hard to get too upset about that.

Sounds like we've given them a really good game and done ourselves proud. Sorry I couldn't be there.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Barmby Rover on August 30, 2023, 09:53:06 pm
This has been a fantastic boost for this team, just what the doctor ordered for GM and the fans. It has to bode well for the upcoming games.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: dknward2 on August 30, 2023, 09:53:35 pm
Play like this in the league and we soon start climbing up it, no shame played brilliant
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 30, 2023, 09:54:34 pm
Can’t help but feel Sotana should have come on earlier
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 30, 2023, 09:59:08 pm
Can’t help but feel Sotana should have come on earlier

This sounds right but I suspect McCann was fearful about his inability to retain possession. He can inflict serious damage, but playing against Everton this might have been more against us than them.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: rtid88 on August 30, 2023, 09:59:44 pm
Struggle to see why Faal stayed on as long as he did, didn't do anything all match. However, that's surely got to give the players a boost as for 50 mins of that match we were by far the better team in every area. Nothing to be ashamed off at all.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: normal rules on August 30, 2023, 10:24:42 pm
Struggle to see why Faal stayed on as long as he did, didn't do anything all match. However, that's surely got to give the players a boost as for 50 mins of that match we were by far the better team in every area. Nothing to be ashamed off at all.

Faal was excellent against mk
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: bpoolrover on August 30, 2023, 10:38:48 pm
Thought faal was excellent again
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: POD on August 30, 2023, 10:41:00 pm
Proud of the performance tonight and a pity we couldn’t see the game out.

I would have used our substitutes much earlier when legs were tiring.  Faal was ineffective in the second half and Setona or Roberts would have given us more up front from 60 minutes.

At 1-1 after 80 minutes, I did not feel that we could win the game so should have made sure we didn’t lose and played for penalties - that would have meant bringing on Richard Wood.  He hasn’t had the best of starts this season but perhaps his experience would have enabled us to see the game out.   
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 30, 2023, 10:59:04 pm
Faal will be a very good player, right now his decision making can be off but that will come with experience.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: Nudga on August 30, 2023, 11:04:52 pm
Faal was my only negative in an otherwise fantastic team performance.
I thought he was sloppy and languid in possession and didn't have that bite that his teammates had out of possession.
Proud to be Rover tonight though, hopefully the lads will take confidence in that performance and carry it on into bread and butter of the league
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: RobTheRover on August 30, 2023, 11:50:07 pm
They have had to fetch a £26 million  player on.

bought the game

Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: RobTheRover on August 31, 2023, 12:00:09 am
I thought Faal did OK. Him and Joe made nuisances of themselves up front and he saw a lot of the ball. His first touch was lacking tonight, but he still did enough in that first half to be a proper thorn in their side. Faded badly in the 2nd half, but he's not had the same pre-season as everyone else. Should have come off earlier.  Taking Rowe off was the killer. We lost the midfield and handed the impetus away. Probably needed to be done though as Rowe had his best (and most industrious) game in a Rovers shirt for probably 2 years, and our injury situation left us thin of options.
Title: Re: Rovers Vs Everton
Post by: ncRover on August 31, 2023, 12:08:50 am
Excited to see an Ironside and Miller front 2.