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Title: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: normal rules on September 28, 2023, 11:06:47 am
Why the f**k would someone do this?
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Ldr on September 28, 2023, 11:13:08 am
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/sycamore-gap-tree-northumberland-live-27801497
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on September 28, 2023, 11:46:27 am
Just seen this on the news - very clearly (and quite neatly) been deliberately chainsawed down. Why would anyone destroy something so beautiful, the effort needed to sneak up there and chop down the massive tree is huge! Tree was medieval - older than the USA. Bring back the guillotine for this idiot.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: roversontheup on September 28, 2023, 12:16:09 pm
I really despair of what some scumbags will do. What on earth do they get out of this? They haven’t even cut it down for its wood.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: roversdude on September 28, 2023, 12:41:48 pm
Absolutely disgraceful need to find them and make an example of the kitsons
I’m at a loss with where the world is going
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Sprotyrover on September 28, 2023, 01:24:30 pm
Well at least the barstwewerd didn’t kill a person in order to be famous, just keep an eye on instagram and the like!
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Colin C No.3 on September 28, 2023, 01:38:27 pm
Bring back the Birch.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: ncRover on September 28, 2023, 01:44:07 pm
This and more importantly the stabbing of the young girl in Croydon really really has me worried about the state of society
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: SydneyRover on September 28, 2023, 01:52:49 pm
Have a dig around google on the topics of social trust, social cohesion, general happiness across the population in various countries and see what comes up nc
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Bentley Bullet on September 28, 2023, 04:36:48 pm
I see the culprit was soon arrested. The outrageousness and pointlessness of the crime made it a priority of the Special Branch.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: danumdon on September 28, 2023, 04:44:55 pm
Will probably plead mental health issues and end up doing a week planting trees on a community order.

This country truly is in a proper downward spiral.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Bentley Bullet on September 28, 2023, 04:57:10 pm
This was a crime against the country, almost tantamount to treeson.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: normal rules on September 28, 2023, 05:31:32 pm
16 yr old in custody . Who no doubt won’t be named .
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Draytonian III on September 28, 2023, 06:02:51 pm
The 16 year old little sod must have a bit of experience with a chainsaw because from the photos I’ve seen it’s a big tree and a clean cut
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: belton rover on September 28, 2023, 07:27:00 pm
16 yr old in custody . Who no doubt won’t be named .
It was Elminem.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on September 28, 2023, 07:52:45 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: DRFC_AjA on September 28, 2023, 08:18:49 pm
I'm calling it early but I bet this was some sort of Instagram, tiktok "influencer " stunt for likes and subscribers
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: scawsby steve on September 28, 2023, 08:31:52 pm
This and more importantly the stabbing of the young girl in Croydon really really has me worried about the state of society

I said something similar on here a few weeks back, NC, and was accused of being a moaning pensioner.

It's OK though, Starmer will be PM soon, then everything will be hunky dory.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: glosterred on September 28, 2023, 08:38:48 pm
Bring back the Birch.

It was a Sycamore tree not a Birch


Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: normal rules on September 28, 2023, 08:53:17 pm
At the most recent count there are around @5 go fund me pages to replace the sycamore with a life size bronze.

Personally I reckon there is the expertise and equipment in the uk available to replace the tree with one of a similar size surely?
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: danumdon on September 28, 2023, 09:06:10 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: wilts rover on September 28, 2023, 10:07:20 pm
That hasn't been done by a tik-tok influencer or for a joke. You can see by the cut and where the tree has fallen, quite a way from the stump, it's been done by a professional.

Was it this 16 yo or was he helping someone else? Dunno, but he knew exactly what he was doing.

From a tree surgeon:

This was very clearly done by a trained arborist, working in the field you can very clearly see the intended lever angle, spray pained on guide for the lever angle and cut is very clean, there’s literally a few 10,000 people in the country who could have realistically pulled this off. The width of the tree would require a minimum 28” bar on the chainsaw, again requiring a stihl ms480 or ms500i at minimum, imo the ms660 running a 36” bar would be the only choice.

Tree wedges will also have been used and hammered in to ensure the bar didn’t get stuck under the weigh, again this was not the act of a vandal or uneducated person, however the person who paid them to do this job may have been, in the industry it really would not be difficult to find out who did it, however no one will ever name them.

Edit: they will have also required a minimum of £800-£1000 of equipment, and the knowledge of how to use it. The fact that the tree landed in its intended position, based on the lever angle, is a sign that they not only knew what they were doing, but were very experienced.

Been lots of prosecutions for wildlife crimes in that area. Can't help but think those two things are connected.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Mike_F on September 29, 2023, 10:38:01 am
Revenge for wildlife crime related arrests sounds very plausible. A few ne'er do wells arrested for hare coursing happen to know plenty of folk who make a living from chopping trees down... doesn't take a genius to join the dots there.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: keith79 on September 29, 2023, 11:27:31 am
Hundreds and thousands of tree are cut down every year. I dont see people up in arms about them.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Draytonian III on September 29, 2023, 01:02:43 pm
^^^^ eh ???
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: turnbull for england on September 29, 2023, 01:11:15 pm
^^^^ eh ???

Got rid, it wasn't place for daft joke
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on September 29, 2023, 03:01:51 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.
I think the mentality that eg creates and reinforces poverty that we have in our government is light years worse, but hey lets get focused on this  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: andy didcott on September 29, 2023, 03:12:38 pm
Don’t worry, new shoots will sprout.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: MachoMadness on September 29, 2023, 03:36:50 pm
Apparently there is hope that the stump will regrow. Apparently it's healthy, apart from the obvious.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: turnbull for england on September 29, 2023, 03:54:01 pm
Tis but a scratch
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on September 29, 2023, 04:15:13 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.
I think the mentality that eg creates and reinforces poverty that we have in our government is light years worse, but hey lets get focused on this  :rolleyes:
Imagine a fourth tier football teams fans forum not focusing universally on the most fundamental societal issues. Outrageous.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on September 29, 2023, 06:00:57 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.
I think the mentality that eg creates and reinforces poverty that we have in our government is light years worse, but hey lets get focused on this  :rolleyes:
Imagine a fourth tier football teams fans forum not focusing universally on the most fundamental societal issues. Outrageous.

 :lol:

I'm appalled, and Donny folk too!  :facepalm:

Maybe the Donny Whites forum would be wiser....
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: danumdon on September 29, 2023, 06:27:06 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.
I think the mentality that eg creates and reinforces poverty that we have in our government is light years worse, but hey lets get focused on this  :rolleyes:

Would this be the same poverty that's existed for centuries and under all colours of political persuasion?

But yeah, you crack on with your phoney class war, even your buddy Starmer is prepping the ground to kick you in the nuts. I'm sure when the time comes we will all be subject to some really interesting debate coming from your direction when you realise this.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on September 29, 2023, 06:32:17 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.

Couldn't have said it better. It's the kind of wanton moronic action that further confirms we as a generation are failing on so many counts in educating the next generations and the values they hold.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on September 29, 2023, 07:00:54 pm
Would this be the same poverty that's existed for centuries and under all colours of political persuasion?

But yeah, you crack on with your phoney class war, even your buddy Starmer is prepping the ground to kick you in the nuts. I'm sure when the time comes we will all be subject to some really interesting debate coming from your direction when you realise this.

Starmer my buddy? Right....  :rolleyes:

I take from the above that you know your place, and think everyone else should know theirs including those abused and used. Nice values.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: wilts rover on September 29, 2023, 07:21:00 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.
I think the mentality that eg creates and reinforces poverty that we have in our government is light years worse, but hey lets get focused on this  :rolleyes:

Would this be the same poverty that's existed for centuries and under all colours of political persuasion?

But yeah, you crack on with your phoney class war, even your buddy Starmer is prepping the ground to kick you in the nuts. I'm sure when the time comes we will all be subject to some really interesting debate coming from your direction when you realise this.

BRR's buddy Starmer!!! Are you new here!!

No it's not the same poverty that has existed for decades actually. It is the poverty that has emereged under this Tory government - along with a massive rise in wealth for the very richest in this country.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: danumdon on September 29, 2023, 07:32:16 pm
And yet councils, eg Plymouth of recent, and developers get away with exactly the same action. Not only that but many mnay more trees can be planted within our towns and cities, Yes, that tree was in an amazing situation but personally I'd prefer to see trees in places where you'll pass by them every day.

It is terrible, but there's far far more important bad things going on that aren't being reported.

Its not just the felling of the tree that has people raging, its the implication of a mindset amongst some people today that would even contemplate this type of thing in the first place.

People are rightly concerned of the culture of today that turns some into feral headcases who's only skill in life is to navigate a mobile device and have shit for brains.
I think the mentality that eg creates and reinforces poverty that we have in our government is light years worse, but hey lets get focused on this  :rolleyes:

Would this be the same poverty that's existed for centuries and under all colours of political persuasion?

But yeah, you crack on with your phoney class war, even your buddy Starmer is prepping the ground to kick you in the nuts. I'm sure when the time comes we will all be subject to some really interesting debate coming from your direction when you realise this.

BRR's buddy Starmer!!! Are you new here!!

No it's not the same poverty that has existed for decades actually. It is the poverty that has emereged under this Tory government - along with a massive rise in wealth for the very richest in this country.

In the sense that this bore would not accept any major party and their leader to be in power then yes, Starmer is his nearest hope. Unless he's the pinning his hopes on his pal Putin making a big dint on global warming!

So in your microcosm of a world, poverty is the sole responsibility of this government, give your head a shake mate.

Its existed before and will do so after Starmer has been and gone, would Starmer not also be responsible for the mega rich increasing their wealth?
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: andy didcott on September 29, 2023, 07:43:35 pm
You dudes are on the wrong thread.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: drfchound on September 29, 2023, 07:53:21 pm
You dudes are on the wrong thread.

 :lol: :lol:
Most threads morph into anything but the OP mate.
Title: Re: Sycamore gap tree felled
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 29, 2023, 09:10:12 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-66966187

Awkward...