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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: Colemans Left Hook on September 30, 2023, 06:25:39 pm
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Ok lets introduce a third choice .
Over the last couple of years the "peasants in the world" have been introduced to the phrase a " binary choice"
Now I think it's time to add a third choice of who is a liar ( but ask yourself who isn't a liar :headbang:) anyhow let the childish " .. he says she says " threads continue
but alas now you have a tertiary choice !!!
let's see how long it takes for this term to enter the public domain.
It's enough to drive one to alcohol !!!
even a tertiary alcohol :rolleyes:
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Quite crepuscular.
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Quite crepuscular.
Very Twilight Zone.
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Nice word though.
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wot appened to the plain inglish kampain ? of 1979
Thursday 18 November 2021
"Voices
Keir Starmer has said he is a friend to Palestinians – but his latest speech doesn’t square with that"
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-israel-keir-starmer-palestine-b1960105.html
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lest we forget
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I heard a very small part of a sky reporter Beth's (Mrs Coleman heard her speaking the other day and thought she was a man til she saw her) interview last night
He said we didn't have children for politics ( having a right go at that conservative who was the leader of the labour party - and was also a failed rock star )
then he mentioned about supporting Arsenal and mentioned he is always home for friday night and prayers ( that could be why Arsenal have improved )..... when questioned on this he "moved around" on this point
November 16, 2020 14:05 Starmer: Our kids are being brought up to know their Jewish backgrounds
Labour leader tells Desert Island Discs of 'long tradition of family and faith'
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/starmer-our-kids-are-being-brought-up-to-know-their-jewish-backgrounds-1.508720
We do all know the children follow the religion of their Mother in such a case.
from wikipedia
Personal life
Starmer married Victoria Alexander in 2007.[221] She was previously a solicitor but now works in NHS occupational health.[5][222] The couple's son and daughter are being brought up in the Jewish faith of their mother and the family attend shabbat dinners.[9] Starmer himself stated he does not believe in God but does "believe in faith" and its power to bring people together.[223] Starmer is a keen footballer, having played for Homerton Academicals, a north London amateur team,[224] and supports Premier League side Arsenal.[5]
Starmer is a vegetarian, believing that "it's better for yourself and for the environment".[225]
listening to the whole interview goes onto my bucket list at least I learned somrething I didn't know about him
I didn't know that about his wife, not that I am particualy bothered.
I do know he used to be a keen supporter of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign - so he presumably has good knowledge of middle east and middle east politics from all sides.
I think he dropped out of PSC when some activists went a bit too far and the a/s problem kicked off under Corbyn
https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1460629248381788164
I am very surprised you didn't know that
thanks for that bit of info
i just googled.......... starmer palestine solidarity campaign there is lots of stuff ..... he married in 2007 so he should at that time known that " the women always get their way ... children wise in the end " but obviously his stance became untenable
at least he didn't become a Tottenham supporter (think about that one)
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/uk-labour-party-starmer-silence-palestinian-solidarity-day
Starmer's change of heart
Before he became party leader, he was not known for his Zionist sympathies. As a former barrister specialising in international human rights, Starmer would have honoured the UN Day of International Solidarity with the Palestinian people without hesitation.
Since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rights
His past record against the illegal Iraq war, his membership of Labour Friends of Palestine, and his condemnation of the Trump Middle East peace plan as "a farce, inconsistent with international law and human rights protections" all point him in that direction.
In 2015 he spoke at an election hustings on Palestine organised by Camden Palestine Solidarity Campaign, and later declared: “We can promote peace and justice around the world” against the backdrop of Stop the War campaigners holding Palestinian flags.
But since becoming party leader, Starmer has changed. He has embarked on a courtship of the Israel lobby, the antithesis to his earlier positions on Palestinian rights. In January 2020, he adopted the Board of Deputies' "Ten Pledges" without caveat.
These included the International Holocaust Remembrance (IHRA) definition of antisemitism that conflates antisemitism with anti-Zionism. This conflation has been at the heart of the antisemitism allegations against the Labour Party. Its aim to link criticism of Israel, and by extension support for Palestine, with "antisemitism" has so far been highly successful in hounding out these supporters.
Starmer now describes himself as a "Zionist without qualification" who believes in the state of Israel.
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While Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'
https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria
Time to repost this -- lest ye forget
in an earlier post after this we suddenly develop a previious hidden Doncastrian link to his wife.
perhaps he can spin it both ways !!! but politicians have to be pragmatists
While Starmer is fiercely schtum about his private life – hence his reticence to publicly name his daughter – we do know that his wife, originally from Poland, is Jewish, and that the couple's children are being raised in the Jewish faith. Speaking to the Jewish Chronicle in March, the Labour leader opened up about his wife's faith, saying: 'As you probably know my wife’s family is Jewish. On her father’s side there are bar mitzvahs, synagogues — there’s all the traditions.'
https://www.tatler.com/article/who-is-keir-starmers-wife-victoria
Interesting I was sure I'd read his wife was from Donny.
Here we go www.thestar.co.uk/news/politics/the-doncaster-family-connections-of-labour-leader-sir-keir-starmer-3006047
"Sir Keir’s wife Victoria comes from Doncaster and his late mother in law Barbara lived in the town before her death earlier this year." From the man himself "I’m delighted that we’re here in Doncaster. My wife’s mum was born and grew up here – just next to the racecourse."
I guess the Polish link is on her Father's side
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wot appened to the plain inglish kampain ? of 1979
Thursday 18 November 2021
"Voices
Keir Starmer has said he is a friend to Palestinians – but his latest speech doesn’t square with that"
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/labour-israel-keir-starmer-palestine-b1960105.html
He was a liar then, he is a bigger liar now, he will be worse in the future.