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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: donnyguy on October 05, 2023, 11:50:25 am
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Neil Harris sacked by Gillingham
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This is bizarre
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Chaos is a ladder
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Probably sick of watching shit defensive hoofball.
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Madness. Every team will go through a losing run but if a manager is going to get the sack every time then there is going to be a massive turnover throughout a season.
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Ridiculous.
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Reading the Gillingham forum after the rovers game, a number of their fans were calling for his head. Seemed odd based on their league position
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Gillingham with Harrogate have scored the least goals in the league with only 9 goals each.
Maybe the football was boring to watch.
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More details here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67018806
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I know a couple of Orient fans.
They really aren't happy about their league position,but are absolutely fuming at the way Wellens behaved against Lincoln.
A disgrace to the club and football was one quote.
Get your money on him being next.
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I know a couple of Orient fans.
They really aren't happy about their league position,but are absolutely fuming at the way Wellens behaved against Lincoln.
A disgrace to the club and football was one quote.
Get your money on him being next.
Either his actions have been misconstrued or he’s trying to cover his arse: https://x.com/billycarroll21/status/1709647875070697893?s=46&t=oRfX1WiRiEXeMOmtN1TPDA
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It sounds like some people are jumping the gun with their opinions on this.
Maybe the Orient fans having a go at Wellens should have got the whole story first.
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Orient fans were saying he was swearing and having a right go at them to get of the pitch,if he wanted to stop the game all he had to do was walk up to the referee
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Maybe the Lincoln manager could confirm what RW is saying.
It’s always a good idea to get the facts before convicting someone.
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Dissecting peoples actions in highly charged, very unusual circumstances like this is unfair really.
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Also Orient fans not happy with their league position? What's that about?
16th is surely pretty acceptable for them as a newly promoted side.
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Danny Cowley 8/1 for the Gillingham job
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Also Orient fans not happy with their league position? What's that about?
16th is surely pretty acceptable for them as a newly promoted side.
Only four points out of the top six.
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Also Orient fans not happy with their league position? What's that about?
16th is surely pretty acceptable for them as a newly promoted side.
Only four points out of the top six.
They lost Vigoroux and Smyth in the summer as well, two key players. From the outside you'd say anything mid-table ish is a respectable result.
I think Richie deserves credit for the job he's done there. He's definitely showed his spell with us was an exception rather than the rule for his abilities as a manager.
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and another...
Head coach John Eustace parts company with Championship club
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67053921
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Flipping eck. You wouldn't have thought being 6th in the table after beating your local rivals would be sacking offences....
"Birmingham City have parted company with head coach John Eustace after 15 months in charge.
The Championship club are sixth in the table after Friday's 3-1 derby win over West Bromwich Albion.
American-owned Blues have been linked with former England captain Wayne Rooney, who has left his role as coach of Major League Soccer side DC United"
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Supposedly the deal for Rooney to take over was done last week. The owner wants a "big name" manager
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Supposedly the deal for Rooney to take over was done last week. The owner wants a "big name" manager
They did that a few years ago when they replaced Gary Rowett with Gianfranco Zola when they were 7th in the league. Results very quickly went down the pan. History repeating?
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Supposedly the deal for Rooney to take over was done last week. The owner wants a "big name" manager
They did that a few years ago when they replaced Gary Rowett with Gianfranco Zola when they were 7th in the league. Results very quickly went down the pan. History repeating?
Let's hope so. Still not forgiven them for those 2 late goals whilst we were biting out nails at Leicester.
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Supposedly the deal for Rooney to take over was done last week. The owner wants a "big name" manager
They did that a few years ago when they replaced Gary Rowett with Gianfranco Zola when they were 7th in the league. Results very quickly went down the pan. History repeating?
Basket case club.
Change Managers more often than come people have a hot meal.
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Wayne Rooney has an average win rate of 27% at Derby County and D C United.
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and another...
Head coach John Eustace parts company with Championship club
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67053921
Hindsight and all, but considering the job Eustace has done at Birmingham you have to think we missed a good one there when the board went with Wellens instead.
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…and yet another!:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67121048
They’ve had 4 managers in less than a year…is that a record for the EFL?
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It really pains me to see a club with such a magnificent history as MK Dons going through the mill.
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Millwall and Lincoln both searching for new managers. The circus goes on!
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i thought Kennedy had left defensively minded Lincoln for a better job
Lincoln as i always say have no prospects whatsoever their "fairy godmother" lives in South Africa and has to "tap up his friends to invest" remeber all those 1-1 home draws last season ----- that's the way they have ALWAYS played
better playing away as they bore you to death
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67161710#:~:text=Mark%20Kennedy%20replaced%20Michael%20Appleton%20as%20Lincoln%20City,was%20sacked%2C%20says%20Imps%20chief%20executive%20Liam%20Scully.
it's gong to cost a lot to pay him off plus he can claim unfair dismizzal
"Mark Kennedy's public criticism of midfielder Danny Mandroiu and not Lincoln City's results were among the reasons the head coach was sacked, says Imps chief executive Liam Scully.
Kennedy had said Mandroiu could become "just another statistic" unless he changes his approach.
The midfielder had been sent off in Lincoln's defeat by Burton - the Imps' third loss in four league games.
"Certainly, it was not purely a results-based decision," Scully said.
"Of course we are ambitious and our aim is to be higher in the table at this moment in time, but it is very early on in the season and there are lots of mitigating factors.
"One thing we want to be clear on is that we are not naive, this is about winning but this isn't purely about results. Far from it."
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Kennedy, 47, became the first Lincoln manager in almost nine years to be dismissed rather than leave by mutual consent or move to another club.
In an interview with BBC Radio Lincolnshire, Scully added that style of play and development of talent under Kennedy were reasons for parting ways on Wednesday.
And while trying to avoid "a warts and all" explanation, Scully went on to say that Kennedy's treatment of Mandroiu was also among the reasons.
"One thing I can say, and please let's not let this run away, but I don't think it was helpful in terms of our characterisation of Danny Mandroiu after the game," Scully said.
"Is that part of it? Yes. Is that the reason? No.
"I keep going back to it, and I know I will bore people saying this, but there are many different facets and parts of this.
"This is looking at it from an elevated pitch, the progress that we are making and not necessarily the progress we have made so far, but how do we hit the measures we would like to achieve going forward?
"And fundamentally that was why we felt it was in the best interests of all parties."
Kennedy was just 11 leagues games into his second season with the club, and had the Imps 16th in the League One table - five points off the play-off spots and seven clear of the relegation places.
The former and Republic of Ireland, Liverpool, Manchester City and Wolves winger guided them to an 11th place finish last term, his first in senior management.
"Mark and Danny [assistant Danny Butterfield] in many parts did what was asked of them, and above and beyond," added Scully.
"We are very grateful for them doing that, but this is about about Lincoln City here and now and going forward as well.
"We will never do anything knee jerk at Lincoln City, certainly not with Clive Nates at the helm. We are process driven in terms of looking at the overall objective of the football club."
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Grimsby 2-0 down already.
Hurst under pressure there after they were tipped to do pretty well.
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Grimsby 2-0 down already.
Hurst under pressure there after they were tipped to do pretty well.
2:2 now
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Colchester manager sacked
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Colchester manager sacked
they play Grimsby on Tuesday so should put in extra effort before we play Grimsby on Saturday - hopefully that Tuesday match is a draw so Grimsby still have their manager when they play us
didn't want Grimsby manager sacked yet.
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Colchester manager sacked
From the BBC website:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67184181#comments
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Paul Warne under pressure at Derby as well.
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Derek Adams has left Morecambe to “pursue opportunities elsewhere.”
Reportedly off to Ross County.
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Derek Adams has left Morecambe to “pursue opportunities elsewhere.”
Reportedly off to Ross County.
That’s another team we can leapfrog in the table then.
He’d worked miracles with them so far this season.
They only had 6 contracted players at the start of the season.
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That’s twice he’s ditched them now
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And third time at Ross County
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Cambridge sack their manager
Mark Bonner
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Cambridge sack their manager
Mark Bonner
They were like us last season. Started the season on fire.
Well maybe we didn’t but we did get 14 points in the 1st 6 games.
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Cambridge sack their manager
Mark Bonner
I am sure you all remember reading this link - I certainly do as I thought to myself ...... How stupid is this manager being - having avoided relegation by the skin of their teeth ( believe it or not thats why I never forgot how stupid he was being)
The manager rewarded his players with this --- I have always been a fan of Joe Ironside and thought he had totally lost the plot releasing him never mind the other nine (as in 9)
12 May 2023
https://www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/sport/double-figure-number-of-departures-is-sliding-doors-moment-9312454/
Cambridge United confirm departures of Lloyd Jones, Sam Smith and Harvey Knibbs among others while Ryan Bennett, George Thomas and club legend Harrison Dunk have been offered new contracts
Cambridge United have confirmed that 10 first-team squad members – including Lloyd Jones, Sam Smith, Harvey Knibbs and Dimitar Mitov – will all be leaving the club following the conclusion of their contracts on June 30.
Following the highs of Sunday’s dramatic escape from Sky Bet League One relegation, head coach Mark Bonner has held meetings with the players throughout the week to determine their futures.
And the result of those discussions has seen a double-figure number heading for the Abbey Stadium exit door, with fresh terms having been offered to handful of other players that are also due to be out of contract – chief among them Ryan Bennett.
Defender Jones, who cleaned up with club’s end-of-season awards, will move on after making 69 appearances for the U’s, from which he scored four goals. Smith, meanwhile, has been United’s leading goalscorer in each of the previous two campaigns, with his run of seven goals in the final nine fixtures a key factor in this season’s survival. The Manchester-born frontman has recently been linked with fellow League One club Portsmouth.
Having arrived in Cambridgeshire in 2019 from Aston Villa, Knibbs will leave after turning out for Cambridge on 155 occasions (26 goals). Goalkeeper Mitov is also another long-serving player that will be moving on after making 164 appearances for the club – the most notable being the Bulgarian’s heroics away at Newcastle United in the FA Cup.
Popular frontman Joe Ironside will also not be retained. The 29-year-old joined United in 2020 from Macclesfield and went on to score 32 goals in 143 outings. Cambridge-born midfielder Liam O’Neil will leave with 165 appearances and seven goals to his name, while versatile defender George Williams is also on the hunt for a new club. Williams, who joined United from Bristol Rovers two summers ago, made 83 apperances for the club.
to repeat players leaving the club were
- Leaving the club on June 30: Greg Taylor, Liam O’Neil, Dimitar Mitov, Harvey Knibbs, Joe Ironside, Sam Smith, Shilow Tracey, George Williams, Lloyd Jones, Ben Worman
and remember :-
Smith, meanwhile, has been United’s leading goalscorer in each of the previous two campaigns, with his run of seven goals in the final nine fixtures a key factor in this season’s survival.
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL LOYALTY FROM BONNEr not a "bonne" decision as a frenchman would say
got wot he deserved others would say
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2 more gone.
Michael Duff at Swansea and Tony Mowbray at Sunderland.
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Looking like Heckingbottom has been finally sacked and Wilder is replacing him. Out with the old and in with the older
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Looking like Heckingbottom has been finally sacked and Wilder is replacing him. Out with the old and in with the older
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Even more strange is the owner has confirmed it in an interview on Talksport before it's even been officially announced.
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Not sure what they expect from Wilder they just aren’t competitive and it didn’t seem like funds were available to change that
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That's a shocking decision by Sunderland to sack Mowbray.
He's done a great job for them and they're only a few points from the play-off places.
What do some clubs expect?! Sunderland have become a joke club these last few years but Mowbray had got them back up and knocking on the door of the Premier League.
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That's a shocking decision by Sunderland to sack Mowbray.
He's done a great job for them and they're only a few points from the play-off places.
What do some clubs expect?! Sunderland have become a joke club these last few years but Mowbray had got them back up and knocking on the door of the Premier League.
Makes you wonder if they have gambled financially on going up and there isn't space in the plan for a 6 game drop in form
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I wonder if GM is currently updating his CV?
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I wonder if GM is currently updating his CV?
Don't know why he would, he's managing a bottom half LG2 team, he has took a big gamble coming here I think, he won't be touted for championship jobs anymore like when he was flying with us the first time.
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That's a shocking decision by Sunderland to sack Mowbray.
He's done a great job for them and they're only a few points from the play-off places.
What do some clubs expect?! Sunderland have become a joke club these last few years but Mowbray had got them back up and knocking on the door of the Premier League.
Would agree especially only having one transfer window to make the leap from League One to Championship. To expect a team to go straight through that league is nuts.
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That's a shocking decision by Sunderland to sack Mowbray.
He's done a great job for them and they're only a few points from the play-off places.
What do some clubs expect?! Sunderland have become a joke club these last few years but Mowbray had got them back up and knocking on the door of the Premier League.
Makes you wonder if they have gambled financially on going up and there isn't space in the plan for a 6 game drop in form
There certainly seems to be a financial angle on it from a lot on Twitter - Mowbray has queried being tasked with using so many youngsters.
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Dino sacked by Burton
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67672385
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And now Alex Neil has left Stoke
https://www.stokecityfc.com/news/2023/december/10/alex-neil-departs-potters/
But it sounds as though some maybe happy he’s gone
https://twitter.com/LimbsSunderland/status/1733619914617897196
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A lot of those jobs are very difficult to be able to achieve what the clubs fans expect. The Sheffield utd job near impossible. Less funding going into a league of a much higher quality. Wilder has it all on there.
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And one in - Leam Richardson appointed Millers manager on a 3.5 year deal.
They must be confident in him!
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No one gets any time to build a team
Only 3 teams get promoted ( 4 in league 2 )
Seriously it’s a joke all these sackings.
Some of them like Mowbray at Sunderland are beyond comprehension.
Has there been a big fall out with the Board because this decision is quite crazy.
Some of these clubs deserve what they get because they are ther own worst enemies.
Birmingham City and Watford it would seem are the biggest 2 culprits.
They must have had 40 managers between them in the last 10 years or so.
Would be interested to know what the numbers are if someone has the time to find out?
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Since Chris Hughton was appointed Birmingham manager on 22nd June 2011, they have had 15 different managers (including 3 caretakers). The longest serving manager in that timeframe is Lee Clark who was there between 26th June 2012 and 20th December 2014 (116 games). Only one other manager got past 100 games in charge, that was Gary Rowett between 27th October 2014 and 14th December 2016 (106 games).
Since Sean Dyche was appointed in the same month as Hughton at Birmingham, Watford have had 22 managers (including Hayden Mullins’ 2 stints as caretaker). The most games managed by one person in that timeframe is Gianfranco Zola with 75 games in charge between July 2012 and December 2013. Only 1 other manager got past 50 games in charge, Javi Garcia with 66 between January 2018 and September 2019. 7 of the 20 permanent managers in that period didn’t make 20 games.
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Since Chris Hughton was appointed Birmingham manager on 22nd June 2011, they have had 15 different managers (including 3 caretakers). The longest serving manager in that timeframe is Lee Clark who was there between 26th June 2012 and 20th December 2014 (116 games). Only one other manager got past 100 games in charge, that was Gary Rowett between 27th October 2014 and 14th December 2016 (106 games).
Since Sean Dyche was appointed in the same month as Hughton at Birmingham, Watford have had 22 managers (including Hayden Mullins’ 2 stints as caretaker). The most games managed by one person in that timeframe is Gianfranco Zola with 75 games in charge between July 2012 and December 2013. Only 1 other manager got past 50 games in charge, Javi Garcia with 66 between January 2018 and September 2019. 7 of the 20 permanent managers in that period didn’t make 20 games.
That's alot of compensation paid between them!
I wonder what percentage of current mangers in the 4 divisions have more than 100 games under their belt ? I'll guess around 10%.
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Well over half of the 92 have been in the job for less than a year.
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And Florist have a sacked Cooper
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67757915
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And Florist have a sacked Cooper
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67757915
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They do like to sack a manager around Christmas time, they sacked Calderwood on Boxing Day after we gave them a lesson
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Sutton have sacked their manager too so their players might get a bit more peace and quiet
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Sutton have sacked their manager too so their players might get a bit more peace and quiet
I went to their opener against Notts County in their hospitality bit, he came in for a chat and was a nice lad.
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Since Chris Hughton was appointed Birmingham manager on 22nd June 2011, they have had 15 different managers (including 3 caretakers). The longest serving manager in that timeframe is Lee Clark who was there between 26th June 2012 and 20th December 2014 (116 games). Only one other manager got past 100 games in charge, that was Gary Rowett between 27th October 2014 and 14th December 2016 (106 games).
Since Sean Dyche was appointed in the same month as Hughton at Birmingham, Watford have had 22 managers (including Hayden Mullins’ 2 stints as caretaker). The most games managed by one person in that timeframe is Gianfranco Zola with 75 games in charge between July 2012 and December 2013. Only 1 other manager got past 50 games in charge, Javi Garcia with 66 between January 2018 and September 2019. 7 of the 20 permanent managers in that period didn’t make 20 games.
That's alot of compensation paid between them!
I wonder what percentage of current mangers in the 4 divisions have more than 100 games under their belt ? I'll guess around 10%.
Prem --> 6
Champ --> 3
League 1 --> 2
League 2 --> 6
2 others on 99 games.
18%
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Since Chris Hughton was appointed Birmingham manager on 22nd June 2011, they have had 15 different managers (including 3 caretakers). The longest serving manager in that timeframe is Lee Clark who was there between 26th June 2012 and 20th December 2014 (116 games). Only one other manager got past 100 games in charge, that was Gary Rowett between 27th October 2014 and 14th December 2016 (106 games).
Since Sean Dyche was appointed in the same month as Hughton at Birmingham, Watford have had 22 managers (including Hayden Mullins’ 2 stints as caretaker). The most games managed by one person in that timeframe is Gianfranco Zola with 75 games in charge between July 2012 and December 2013. Only 1 other manager got past 50 games in charge, Javi Garcia with 66 between January 2018 and September 2019. 7 of the 20 permanent managers in that period didn’t make 20 games.
That's alot of compensation paid between them!
I wonder what percentage of current mangers in the 4 divisions have more than 100 games under their belt ? I'll guess around 10%.
Prem --> 6
Champ --> 3
League 1 --> 2
League 2 --> 6
2 others on 99 games.
18%
Wowser! Very enlightening but a sad reflection of the game at the mo.
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Forest Green manager binned. Replaced by Troy Deeney.
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Forest Green manager binned. Replaced by Troy Deeney.
Think that’s 5 in the last 18 month or so if you include the lady who got it for publicity
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Player coach, there must be a shortage of managers,
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Forest Green manager binned. Replaced by Troy Deeney.
Think that’s 5 in the last 18 month or so if you include the lady who got it for publicity
It’s no surprise they are getting relegated is it.
You reap what you sow.
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Salford City have sacked their manager Neil Wood
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67816050
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