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Title: Barnsley
Post by: tpred on November 22, 2023, 02:09:26 pm
Barnsley out of fa cup for fielding an ineligible player.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on November 22, 2023, 02:18:31 pm
Wow! That's crazy. Horsham back in the cup, will play Sutton in round 2! You'd be well annoyed if you were a Tyke, two goes to beat Horsham then kicked out anyway.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: glosterred on November 22, 2023, 02:18:48 pm
School boy error


COYR
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: roversdude on November 22, 2023, 02:20:01 pm
P45 for someone?
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on November 22, 2023, 04:16:38 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67486563
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on November 22, 2023, 04:19:54 pm
As much as they've had a shocker I think they have handled it as positively as possible - taken responsibility, apologised - no complaining or appealing or blaming anyone else. Crap for the fans though.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Pancho Regan on November 22, 2023, 04:28:04 pm
Oh dear, how sad, never mind........

Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: normal rules on November 22, 2023, 04:33:53 pm
I suspect they will be looking for a new secretary soon
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on November 22, 2023, 04:38:41 pm
Oops!
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 22, 2023, 05:40:23 pm
Absolutely livid with the club , this is unforgivable .

There's club's that begin this competition in August at the very bottom of the pyramid with a couple of volunteers who don't make mistakes like this .

It's only the second time it's happened in 100 years , that's the measure of this debacle .

The CEO is working his 6 months notice as he's taken another job in the MLS at Minnesota .

He should go TONIGHT , no if's no but's but TONIGHT , incompetent fool .

He's a catalogue of errors committed in the time he's been at the club , an ill fated shirt sponsorship deal with Hex.com which was a scam in crypto currency for one .

The fans deserve better , 3k at Derby two weeks ago , sold out Lincoln on Saturday and still sticking by the club despite watching some mind numbing football of the variety you had served up last season .

Train tickets  booked for Sutton in round two .

They couldn't give a shyte about the fans .

Joke of a club .
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: wilts rover on November 22, 2023, 05:58:09 pm
They played someone in the replay who was ineligble for the first tie. Some presumably someone who was either suspended or out on loan.

Yes the secretary should have known. But so should the manager and coaching staff.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 22, 2023, 06:28:26 pm
They played someone in the replay who was ineligble for the first tie. Some presumably someone who was either suspended or out on loan.

Yes the secretary should have known. But so should the manager and coaching staff.

Ultimately the CEO takes the responsibility , he's the man running the club and gets the bucks that goes with a position such as that .

This is a potentially catastrophic error , not some spelling mistake on a document in the back office .

We are talking potentially a million quid in lost revenue given what a third round tie against one of the big boys can bring in .

This has huge ramifications .

An error of this magnitude is something the CEO owns .
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: roversdude on November 22, 2023, 06:43:52 pm
Great for Horsham though - presumably they pick up the prize money for going through
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Post by: arkseyrover on November 22, 2023, 06:54:52 pm
Don't think it would have happened when the Clynes were running the club.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: i_ateallthepies on November 22, 2023, 07:03:12 pm
Don't think it would have happened when the Clynes were running the club.

Clyne? that's Crazy he was just a Patsy.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 22, 2023, 07:13:54 pm
Great for Horsham though - presumably they pick up the prize money for going through

£41k .
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Copps is Magic on November 22, 2023, 07:39:06 pm
School boy error


He was the one playing.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: BradwellRover on November 23, 2023, 08:38:57 am
I find the ‘fans deserve better’ an interesting phrase. We hear this a lot from our friends in Sheffield and Merseyside at the moment.
But what makes any fan in the PL/FL any more deserving of a well run club/success or anything else, than another?  Are Everton or Wednesday, or Barnsley fans particularly charitable or law-abiding?  Did we not ‘deserve’ Richardson, or was it just the result of a mixture of poor management/governance over decades, lack of local interest/engagement in DRFC, FA incompetence and sheer bad luck?

That said, perhaps the least we should deserve is basic administrative competence for the money we pay. I can imagine it’s pretty frustrating for Barnsley fans.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Reg of the Rovers on November 23, 2023, 08:46:30 am
If you replace the word 'fans' with 'paying customers' it helps to understand the very reasonable expectation of a competent organisation providing a quality service. We wouldn't accept less in any other service area.
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Post by: BradwellRover on November 23, 2023, 09:43:02 am
Respectfully, I don’t think that works at all.

If we saw it as that kind of transaction, most fans would have given up years ago. I certainly wouldn’t continue to attend a theatre if it serves up consistently poor productions with overpriced/crap refreshments and I had to travel an hour each way to get there.

It’s much more than that. We are invested and a lot genuinely believe we have some kind of ‘right’ to success, despite the fact every other team is also trying to get it. You only have to look at a number of threads about investment over the last few seasons to prove this.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 23, 2023, 12:20:02 pm
I find the ‘fans deserve better’ an interesting phrase. We hear this a lot from our friends in Sheffield and Merseyside at the moment.
But what makes any fan in the PL/FL any more deserving of a well run club/success or anything else, than another?  Are Everton or Wednesday, or Barnsley fans particularly charitable or law-abiding?  Did we not ‘deserve’ Richardson, or was it just the result of a mixture of poor management/governance over decades, lack of local interest/engagement in DRFC, FA incompetence and sheer bad luck?

That said, perhaps the least we should deserve is basic administrative competence for the money we pay. I can imagine it’s pretty frustrating for Barnsley fans.

Not much to ask is it that you overcome opponents in the first round of the FA cup and actually get to play a second round tie .

The club advertising for a Director Of Football as of this morning .

Many of us have been calling for this for years !!
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Metalmicky on November 23, 2023, 03:12:23 pm
I find the ‘fans deserve better’ an interesting phrase. We hear this a lot from our friends in Sheffield and Merseyside at the moment.
But what makes any fan in the PL/FL any more deserving of a well run club/success or anything else, than another?  Are Everton or Wednesday, or Barnsley fans particularly charitable or law-abiding?  Did we not ‘deserve’ Richardson, or was it just the result of a mixture of poor management/governance over decades, lack of local interest/engagement in DRFC, FA incompetence and sheer bad luck?

That said, perhaps the least we should deserve is basic administrative competence for the money we pay. I can imagine it’s pretty frustrating for Barnsley fans.

Not much to ask is it that you overcome opponents in the first round of the FA cup and actually get to play a second round tie .

The club advertising for a Director Of Football as of this morning .

Many of us have been calling for this for years !!

I just looked at the Director of Football advert on the Barnsley site and it looks pretty comprehensive.  The only strange line was the last of the bullet points requirements for the job where it states the DofF should......

•   Perform any adhoc duties as deemed appropriate by the club

I assume this doesn't mean he will be cleaning boots and sorting the laundry... :huh:
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: foxbat on November 23, 2023, 06:13:59 pm
but that phrase would cover it though
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 23, 2023, 06:18:56 pm
but that phrase would cover it though

Nar , the HC does that after training .

You've no idea how tin pot we actually are joking apart .


 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Colin C No.3 on November 23, 2023, 10:06:28 pm
but that phrase would cover it though

Nar , the HC does that after training .

You've no idea how tin pot we actually are joking apart .


 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You think you’ve had s**t to deal with!

Don’t even get me started.

Take your kerchief to your own forum.

Barnsley……couldn’t give a sh**e!
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 24, 2023, 06:03:56 am
but that phrase would cover it though

Nar , the HC does that after training .

You've no idea how tin pot we actually are joking apart .


 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You think you’ve had s**t to deal with!

Don’t even get me started.

Take your kerchief to your own forum.

Barnsley……couldn’t give a sh**e!

But enough to contribute to a Barnsley thread a Rovers fan started .

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on November 24, 2023, 09:21:45 am
I've just caught up with this and can't believe what I've read! This is absolutely crazy and embarrassing for Barnsley FC but I think that they've handled as best as they could under the circumstances. They've held their hands up and admitted to it which is all that they could do to be honest.

As for Barnsley, I've had a bit of a soft spot for them since spending 2 weeks with some of their fans at the Spain '82 World Cup. They were a great bunch of lads, especially when they saved us from a kicking by some very angry Bristol City fans who, for some reason, had taken a serious dislike to Donny Rovers in Bilboa after the England v France game.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: scawsby steve on November 24, 2023, 05:04:02 pm
I've just caught up with this and can't believe what I've read! This is absolutely crazy and embarrassing for Barnsley FC but I think that they've handled as best as they could under the circumstances. They've held their hands up and admitted to it which is all that they could do to be honest.

As for Barnsley, I've had a bit of a soft spot for them since spending 2 weeks with some of their fans at the Spain '82 World Cup. They were a great bunch of lads, especially when they saved us from a kicking by some very angry Bristol City fans who, for some reason, had taken a serious dislike to Donny Rovers in Bilboa after the England v France game.

Similar thing happened to me, Herbert, in Benidorm on holiday in 1977. A bunch of drunken Scots accosted me and my mate in the foyer of the hotel, because they'd heard our English accents. The group of big Barnsley lads who were staying there suddenly appeared and surrounded the Jocks.

I've never seen facial expressions change so quickly. It was a case of South Yorkshire folk looking after their own.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 24, 2023, 05:22:12 pm
We've also the matter of the EFL investigation in to the shareholding of the club to think about too .

Possible points deduction and fine depending on the severity of the rules we've broken .

Oh for the days of local ownership , we moaned then but I'd have Patrick Cryne back in a heartbeat , God rest his soul .

Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Pancho Regan on November 24, 2023, 09:59:15 pm
but that phrase would cover it though



You've no idea how tin pot we actually are joking apart .


 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well, it took over 3,500 posts but at last I agree with you.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Colin C No.3 on November 24, 2023, 10:51:55 pm
Two words….jog on.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on November 25, 2023, 08:31:36 am
Two words….jog on.

Tykes sound. I enjoy reading his view point and I’m sure many others do.
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Post by: dknward2 on November 25, 2023, 12:03:51 pm
Not exactly hidden what the thread is about don't like it don't read
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: scawsby steve on November 25, 2023, 05:55:28 pm
I think Tyke's views on football and politics are great.

Keep posting my son.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: tyke1962 on November 25, 2023, 07:15:35 pm
Appreciate the supportive comments , much appreciated .

Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Pancho Regan on November 25, 2023, 11:54:40 pm
Two words….jog on.

Tykes sound. I enjoy reading his view point and I’m sure many others do.

And I’m sure many others don’t.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Pancho Regan on November 25, 2023, 11:57:05 pm
Appreciate the supportive comments , much appreciated .

I think I’m going to be sick.
Title: Re: Barnsley
Post by: Sammy Chung was King on November 26, 2023, 04:26:18 am
I wish more supporters of other sides would come on here. An outside view is sometimes useful. We are all football supporters but have different allegiances.